Federal European State. The Future or Utopia? 

End the eu empire! Free Czechia, free Slovakia, free Hungary, free Poland, free Italia, free Britannia!

Utopia. Different languages and cultures bring to a new Jugoslavia. It will never happen.

To put it simply. Federal EU would not happen! (at least for now) Thing is that France and Germany proved to be ineffective in ruling Europe. They compliance with Russia, is major issue. Europe was not fully in vassalage of Putin, only because majority of EU countries actually hold sane approach and counter it. Whole Federal project is only serving purpose of restoring Franco-German dominance, instead actually repairing issues of Europe.

i think European federation idea wouldn't be supported in national referendum. why giving even more sovereignty away? so i had to dislike this video. because i dislike federation idea.

@@TheRezro the Franco-German dominance does not exist, since they would be rivals. In human history, two major powers clash each other for dominance. No agreement would happen. Least but not last: the other countries would not accept to be ruled by one of them.

you understand whats Federal Level ,right? @@sigiloXXX

Good thing they left then. They won't be missed.

Uk would become the Matriarch of CANUK

@@JT.Pilgrim CANUK isnt happening ever it was only just a weird fantasy of some of the terminaly online Brexit fans who couldnt cope with how badly they screwed up

@@alexanderrose1556 it looks like UK is joining CPTPP quite soon though.

I'm pro EU and that's a good critique! People should be more informed of what goes on! Agreed, mate.

@@Gio-ym4uj Me too, rightwing but very pro EU. And its a challenge because even following politics on the national level feels like a full time job already. 😂

The internet is nice for such things. Just look it up. Everything is explained and written down

@@fischersfritz468 I get your point. But people can barely keep track of politics within their country and that gets much more media attention than whatever EU does. Yet the EU train keep rumbling on so im in favor of governments creating more awareness

This is actually a result of a loose union. People care about politics only when it affects them. Since EU politics affect you less than national politics, you care only about national politics. But if the EU parliament would have a clearer and bigger impact on your life then, EU elections would be more interesting. Like how mostly nobody knows or cares about their local mayor or knows who their representative is, but they know the PM/President.

You forgot to add Montenegro

From my perspective, 51 minutes, 60 minutes, not that much difference. Does RU-vid suppress videos above an hour long?

@@Chexmaster What about Montenegro?

The EU is the problem

bot @@garyb455

agree but please regard that you could make an 1 hour documentary about each of them and the video is already 50 minutes long

@@capslocked7274 fair but skipping the 70s is just weird

@@trollon1232 I betcha it came down to time management…. It’s always hard to achieve.

They already mentioned it in previous video.

And? This is supposed to be a full summary of eurofederalism. So its strange to skip germanys only Eurofederalist chancellors

This channel sounds like Soros shills and corrupt corporate media propagandist.

Being american, u prolly thought europe was in jupiter

Being American, you already thought Europe is a country

To be fair, Europe doesn't have much oil

Imagine an alternate universe where there is a Unites States of Europe and they are arguing against the American Union becoming a federation arguing membee-state sovereignty, and fearing the anti-ch--t, etc.

Then u havent talked to anyone outside large cities. I wasnt aware of those tents but it doesnt surprise me, I will be voting for whatever party is against federalisation.

you know very well that back in Romania politicians are corrupt as f, so we need rules and holds in place to get rid of corruption because local corrupt politicians wont change those rules that made them rich. Only this way Romania can prospere, eliminating corruption. So a federal EU its absolutely necessary! Cheers from a Romanian living in UK

So, if you were in the UK, would you support the "handing over" of the control of the UK's National Interest to a Federal EU ?

​@@havencat9337unfortunately the EU itself is deeply corrupt and getting more so

What citizens think the EU is for is radically different from what those in the top positions of power in the EU think. They don't care about values or economic growth, except as how those things can be used to leverage their own power. They use that power to sideline competitors (France>UK) and the freedom to wield it as they see fit, and to hell with the people.

Sequel to the Finno-Korean hyperwar?

Cant await to see it lmao

new york doesnt have a veto over the US and the US is doing just fine.

If you want to keep the veto, how do you address rogue players clearly harming the benefit and best interest of the EU, such as Hungary and Poland?

@@catalindeluxus8545 As Britain is no longer involved, fortunately that conundrum is not one I have to worry about. But in view of the catastrophic leadership provided by France and Germany separately in recent years over fundamental issues threatening the security of the bloc, I would be every bit as concerned about the poor leadership that they would offer you as about how frustrating Hungary can be over the next few years.

​@@catalindeluxus8545people like you are exactly why the EU should never become federal. Almost all nations only joined for economical benefit. But now if they differ in opinion and act accordingly with their Brussel masters, they're treated as and deemed traitors and bad actors. Its empire building and colonisation with a different name. Offer economic and industrial benefits in exchange for total subservience.

True, but a truly *federalized (super)state* would have it's own, independent, unified unilateral perspective on foreign policy arising from it's direct responsibility for the entirety of the federation. A truly federalized governing body would have sufficiently broad representation from all constituent states and enough of their representative ruling coalitions, alongside legislative superiority in the areas of foreign policy and defense, and as such the federal state would not be making decisions "as France" or "as Germany," although it is true that in reality it would something more like a "as French-German coalition with minority partners chosen from random smaller European states currently ruled by parties with sufficient ideological similarity to the elected federal government." I'm pretty sure if Texas, California, and New York states were all separate governments making their own foreign policy and defense decisions, they'd be making some *pretty fucking stupid decisions,* especially compared to the USA (which also, we mustn't forget, proves that any federal country can make catastrophically inept and utterly moronic decisions pretty much back to back to back for literal centuries and get away with it pretty much without negative consequence as long as they have a *big fucking armed force* with hegemonic power over it's competitors and allies both). A unified federal European state would have a, let's be blunt, non-trivial hegemonic economic and military potential, especially compared to France or Germany as single states. Also worth remembering that functionally nobody with any semblance of respect or influence correctly and accurately predicted the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so claiming they were "strategically misguided" in their Russia policy is pretty silly, bluntly. The Russian possibility of invasion of Ukraine was considered to be *catastrophically stupid* to the point of being infeasible, and that was before the invasion when we still Russia's armed forces were moderately competent. Not only have they proven themselves to be grossly underpowered compared to previous estimations, but Putin has also personally demonstrated that *he's a fucking idiot, and arrogant to the point of self-destruction.* Of course, you aren't wrong that France's struggle to maintain it's colonial sphere of influence is both misguided and morally bankrupt to the point of total unjustifiability, and the root of the problem(s) are the self-interested myopia of both powers. The solution, however, isn't political balkanization and checks designed specifically to be used by reactionaries and conservatives in the pursuit of maintaining reactionary and conservative state-policy at the expense of a federal, continental policy platform promulgated in accordance with a continent-wide electoral mandate under federalized, proportional principles.

Then Eastern Europe should be kicked out. Poland and Hungary have already caused enough problems.

​@@jasonhaven7170well. They won't. They keep each other safe and the EU can't do much about it without betraying its own values.

lol if you totally leave eastern europe to its own its gonna become part of russia and then you gonna have to deal with bigger russia not eastern europe :D welcome to real world where there are no easy and perfect decisions @@jasonhaven7170

​​@@wzburzonykisieleu can do alot. Specially now because noone want to ruin themself as bad as the british.

The "smaller" european countries will be made irrelevant in the EU also. Their interests will be sold out to the highest bidder, their territories will be just a buffer to bargain with outside powers. There is no solidarity within Europe, there are only interests of states, and we have just given even more strength to the strongest ones.

As an American, I agree that Europe must come together, but I believe there still must be cultural autonomy, but I believe in one foreign policy and military for Europe. For my country America, I believe in something similar. A synthesis of autonomous states with Freedom of Association and One Foreign Policy and Federal Military.

🥳🥳😭🥳🥳😭🥳😭🥳😪🥳😭😪🥳😭😪🥳😭😭😭🥳😭😭

L L

If my country is going to lose independence to a European State then it will become irrelevant either way. So it it is not a choice between independence or irrelevance. But between being independent and irrelevant (and the level of this irrelevance is very much debatable depending on the country) or losing independence and relevance as long as you are not German or French. Also, the creation of the European Federation doesn't guarantee that all its citizens will be treated fairly and equally. I am not risking becoming a second-class citizen in a bureaucratic nightmare run by people who will look down on me because I wasn't born in Western Europe.

WWII was a further Germanization effort of Europe's breadbasket You have stated the truth here

Why would France and Germany with a combined GDP of 7 trillion usd and 150 million people renounce to leading the EU? Why would small and poor eastern europe lead anything, if west of the Oder River you have 2/3rds-ish of the EU population?

@@FOLIPE Russia should join in and Balance the whole thing out :) ironically the EU needs Russia if it is to survive and compete against China and the U.S Siberia will allow the EU to stop being neocolonialist and loot resources from Africa and turn to exploiting Siberia which would on EU soil subject to EU laws and regulations.

​@@FOLIPEwhy would a federal europe happen without giving the east more power?

@FOLIPE Like I said they won't. However, it is somewhat foolish. Germany and France want to compete with US and China's economy and They cannot do it o their own. When they talk about catching up to the rest, they talk about the EU catching up, not them catching up. They need the whole Europe, to be able to compete, which means they need "small nad poor Eastern Europe". They need their manpower, their potential and economy to unify Europe's economy. That's the only way to compete with the rest. However, Eastern Europe won't accept these terms because they know that France and Germany needs them and they know that they supposed to be second class for them. They know their potential and that over time, they can have a strong voice on the continent. For example, Poland as a country is not "small and poor" anymore. Warsaw, in a level of development resembles Western capitals. Their GDP still grows rapidly and they have the potential to have a bigger influence on the continent. And they know it. That's why, if Germany and France want Federal Europe, a unified and functioning federal Europe, they would have to agree with Eastern Europe's national interests and let them strengthen themselves in order to call their offer favorable for these nations.

oh, so a non-democratic eu then? just the most powerful have a voice? no thank you. democratic federation, yes. this youre saying? no.

They need to do something about the educated leaving their Italian and Spanish home countries and taking all that intellectual capital with them.

@@templecreations2351 Fck a federation. An Imperium and an Emperor who will treat all countries as if they were his own children.

I cant see why nordic countries would ever join that. Nordics are way too storng to be pushed around by Italy and Spain.

​@@Schwarzie10 I cant talk about Italy. But Spain is starting to change that, specially in IT, many graduates find jobs in spanish or international companies but living in Spain. We have a brain drain problem? Yes. Specially in the top (CEO's, great scientist, etc...) But last 5 years we have improve and in fact Spain is slowly starting to attract international talent more and more.

Structure doesn't resembe USSR much at all, nor like rome. Nationalism is a plauge though. Independant states , integrated states are both fine though. Nation states have only existed for the last few centuries and are likely a short lived wreched historical anomoly.

@@Sara3346 You cannot be independent under a federal umbrella. The examples are wrong, because both Switzerland or Germany have a common swiss or german cultural and national identity. EU dont have. EU even nowadays trying to resemble a centralized authoritarian structure, which totally careless about the souvereign interests of the nations, especially on the perifery. Meanwhile still the present EU have balances (unanomity law for example), to trying to compensate smaller states. Present EU I wouldn't call USSR, but this imagined futuristic federal imperial EU very easily. Even a cohesive ideology would not be missing, and this would also be closely related to Marxism, just as neoliberalism (nothing to do with the real Millian liberalism) is related to communism... And come on: the European seed is the Westfalian idea of nation states! Calling that "historical anomaly" is something what I read on my childhood schoolbooks, when marxists explained the history on the communist Hungary..😀

Fortunately the EU will kick Hungary out eventually.

@@jasonhaven7170 Just in your pink dreams, dear bolshevik. Hungary will saving the EU from this wrong steps towards federalism. And if Hungary not be able to save them, doesn't matter, because the EU in this form stop to exist. For federalism they need to create a totally new agreement with each members, and all the members will be free will to decide, they want to jump into the dark or not. In this case 1000%, not Hungary will be the only one, who will reject. But as I see the movements, EU citizens very divided in this question. Even the liberal conservative parties (European Peoples Party) don't want to hear about federalist Europe! But you guys on the left, need to learn some basic democracy and tolerancy - to not want to kick out immediately everybody, who have different opinion than yours. And learn some basic, how the EU working, and no such mechanism to kick out anybody.

Nope. Do you really think Germany and France would give up their hegemony? It would upgrade their hegemony even more.

@@wzburzonykisiel How?

@@MajinOthinus Why do you think the French or German would be better overlords than the Americans. The Americans will always control the seas.

Such exploitation is not best defeated by a super state

@@wzburzonykisiel We would absolutely give up power towards pretty much any guy from every country in the EU. In fact, once this federation would be achieved Germany fro example would go back to sleep, and just do business and only minimal engagement in politics. It is also your union. It is your power that you can shape and form. However, you have to be European if you want that position. You have to be there for all europeans. You Eastern Europeans hide in your country and especially with your population difference that makes you invisible. You want this power? You want to be most on top of the world? Do it like Kallas. Give press conferences in other countries, talk to the large population of Western Europe. Don't be afraid to create visibility by mingling into other countries affairs. Your name sounds polish to me: You think it would be wrong to go to Germany, Italy, Slovenia, Spain to talk to local electorate and mingle in other countries politics. NO. You are allowed to do that, and if you present solutions, you can shape the union and lead the union, BUT, your strict nationalism prevents that!

its a logical idea for survival; but 🇺🇸 America failed at it and had to reroute a new ID of what success looks like.

Bringing people of different cultures side by side you need a brutal rule let's not pretend.

there is a lot of corruption in the smaller countries of the EU,most of the money not being used the right way.this brings delays in development

@@cinnamonstar808 how did America fail at it? They’ve always been one.

@@mikemonard5418 There's lot of corruption in the EU in general. Not only on national level but in the EU parliament as well. It's called lobbying.

How do you know what France and Germany are not willing to concede?

@@fernet8394 Maybe they'll surprise me. Legitimately if the offer is good enough and I have to vote in a referendum I'll go for it. I just want very steadfast assurances that over time the federalised EU won't be restructured so that smaller countries have less and less say and relevance.

@@fernet8394 Sure, what about France almost declaring war on UK for fishing rights then not long after acting like Ukrainian grain don't affect Polish farmers at all?? After a massive crisis they finally took measures and tried to make both sides happy instead of blindly supporting Ukraine. But when their own people loose money they get mad instantly. If you want to become a subject of Franco-Germans be my guess but don't expect others to act so foolishly..

@@ggoddkkiller1342 I did not utter any expectations

In a way no, breaking up the existing European multi ethnic nation states in smaller and smaller, weaker easily controlled countries suits the Eureaucrats divide and conquer goals. Cultural nationalism leads to more internation economical dependence. A United Belgium with its own stands in the way of a stronger Brussels.

Traditional empires generally allowed a wide degree of sovereignty to their subjects. usually revolving around paying a tribute and providing troops and allegiance.

They are trying to make melting pot with mixing bunch of different people in Europe as we speak. You cant travel over the border unless you are paperless migrant lol

@@goldbullet50 yeah but they crashed rebellions by force and over time forced cultural assimilation or face annihilation how do you think China became 99% Han Chinese? China was never a ethno state and the Han homeland is only alongside the Yellow river and not much more.

@@covfefe1787 "Han" is basically like "European" in the sense of ethnicity... Many Han subgroups speak mutually non-intelligible languages, about as similar with each other as the big European languages. Only about 2/3 of Han speak (some variety of) Mandarin as their first language. And Mandarin itself, with all its varieties, is more like a big language family in Europe like Slavic, Germanic, or Romance rather than a single European language. Whereas "Chinese" is like "European" in the sense of living in Europe.

@@hyhhy g Good lord. That is a stretch…..”Han” is like “European”… Two “polar” opposite cultures. Literally. Throw in a dash of CCP/Communist/Soviet influence and ya’ got European. 🫡😆

Finest of arguments

While it is sad that rural areas is forgotten, it is understandable why it is that way. Because most people live in urban areas that will also be prioritized by politicians.

I say that if you feel forgotten by your government, then move to a place where you...don't? Besides, feeling like your government isn't doing enough is a completely subjective thing to feel, like what do you mean by that? Do you mean forgotten as in "the buildings in my community are made of balsa wood, duct tape, and dreams. Godzilla came through here 5 minutes ago and I have 4 different waterborne diseases and 30 peasant children to feed after they come back from their 20 hour shift in the coal mines." ? Or do you mean forgotten as in "boohoo I lost my job, must be the government's fault and totally not because I harassed 5 female interns at my workplace and hurled racial slurs like cluster munitions." ? I think that if you choose to live in a rural place you have no right to complain about the government because you literally live in a place where there is little government. Do rural people really want the entire government to come to Joe's rustic cabin in the middle of the woods for a sleepover? No. Lots of people who choose to live in rural areas live there because they don't want government around. They just want their little farm and some peace and quiet away from everything. I think that if you choose to live that way then you have to come to terms with the fact that little Timmy won't be getting an Oxford education in Ruralsville: population 6. What I'm saying is: expect to be left alone, and expect to not get any help or opportunity when you live in a place with no people around. No people = You're on your own, good luck. If you don't like that burden, *psst* ᵐᵒᵛᵉ ᵗᵒ ᵃ ᶜᶦᵗʸ Apparently, that's where all the jobs are.

​​@@zericle1You're projecting hard there about harassing female coworkers. Got something to share buddy? And what if I don't wish to move? I feel just as patriotic for my small town as I do for my country. Additionally, what you're proposing is simply stupid. Rural areas produce food, if everyone moves away from the countryside into the city, then from where do you get food, genius?

@@doktorhabilitowanystanczyk Thanks for insinuating that I harass women, that was very nice and adult of you. I really love waking up to see that, that made my day! You seem to think that I hate rural people, that's not true at all. In fact, since you seem to think you know me so much and really want me to share something with you, so I'll let you in on a secret. I was on a farm at one point in my life. But I didn't like it, I hated it actually, and so I moved to the city a few years ago. Doing that helped me very much, I was able to get away from a lot of bad shit, able to go to college, and I was able to find job opportunities I wouldn't find back where I used to live. And that's why I'm a smart ass. You also think food is only grown in the countryside, also not true. The wonders of hydroponics, am I right? You gotta laugh a little, you're bumming everyone out. Can't read between the lines, hates attempts at comedy, negative about this and that... I know I may be a little crass, and sarcastic, and yeah some people don't like that, but you gotta be that way when people are seething, and angry, and serious all the time, when you live around liars, hypocrites, just general negativity, and all that bullshit. My mom taught me the importance of turning the other cheek, and being polite, so... I hope you have a nice day. and I'm sorry if you feel bad, that quite literally wasn't my intention, you know? I was just trying to make some people laugh and give some advice based on my own experiences and quirkiness, as you do time to time in the comments. I guess you can't please everyone. Ah well.

I do agree that Europeans should be consulted, but a no from some nations should not put a stop to a closer union for the rest: it should led to the creation of multiple tiers where those nations remain behind.

More like a Confederacy, like Germany is a federation, acts like a single nation, but a lot of power is still reserved at each state / canton level

They might be waiting to ask when native Europeans are the minoroty and have been largely replaced by migrants.

​@@alexbolide4009 O don't think the US has a lot to gain from a sovereign Europe. The US was quite supportive of Brexit of I recall correctly.

@@nicoruppert4207the US was not. Obama explicitly campaigned for remain, and it Has been US policy that European integration is good as it frees up US resources. The US is not scared of a United Europe

In other words Western Europe becomes one state whilst Eastern Europe stays connected but not as single

Without Switzerland it won't be a Federal European Union and not possible therefore.

Canada has much more in common with the USA, than any 2 European neighbors. Why does nobody expect Canada to join the US? That will be same answer, against Euro federalist nonsense.

Oh great, even more bureaucracy.

This is actually Macron’s multi tier Europe plan

You imply being part of a larger federation like the EU means you inherently lose sovereignty on a national level. Sovereignty is not a zero-sum game. It's also not intrinsic to a nation. Sovereignty is what's awarded to you by your neighboring nations through either your diplomatic efforts or through your show of force. Just declaring to be sovereign on your own is only granting you 'your' sovereignty until someone else just casually decides to waltz in. Ask 19th century Japan about that. For example if you're a small country, isolated and on your own, you can't expect to be able to put any political weight into any scale when played by any of the major powers (US, China, and a host others, depending on your size). You can scream what you want, try to get the U.N. to listen to you all you want. In the end all your 'sovereignty' will be for naught. In practice, you won't have any of it. Ask Georgia and the Chechens, ask many an African nation, ask pretty much any member of the Warsaw pact when that pact existed. And if the E.U. may ever break, ask any European nation, including the big ones. Of the two that may make a dent wholly on their own, one of them is currently locked in an existential crisis of 'warrific' proportions (Ukrain) and the other has too messy politics and other instabilities it will currently not be able to fend for its own (Turkye). The other 'great' European nations are too weak to even consider. Yes, that includes 'Great' Britain (political mess and historical and current class squabbles splitting the population), France (integration problems from a still looming colonial past), Germany (the cultural after-effects of WW2) and if I'd add any other nation to that list, Poland is the first one that comes to mind, but Poland has the problem it's Poland. The land consists of a completely indefensible plain that can be easily invaded from their coast, the east and the west. If the Russ^h^h^h^hMuscovites would enter one of the E.U. states and they would not be united at all (either through the E.U. or through NATO), they will have easy pickings. Not only for the Baltics, Also Finland won't hold, neither will Poland (despite their efforts)... They'll have free reign up to the harbor of Rotterdam and then have the option to go south if they want so. So don't talk about insular sovereignty unless you are committed to defend that sovereignty with your blood and bones. For anyone that's willing to corporate, you can share your sovereignty with each other through the setup of well thought out governmental structures, which I expect the E.U. institutions to provide for its citizens. And the E.U. can expect in return I will participate (vote) in them accordingly. That way I know my sovereignty is secure.

Economic Union is desirable and should stay. Military cooperation and protection is also desirable. EU enforcing regulations such as on quality of food, and manufactured products being sold in the EU territory is also good. The EU should never meddle in local culture, such as by enforcing an official language or banning another language. No one state within the federation should be favoured in language, economy, or political power.

@@norielgames4765 That is why you should actively work towards your goals. We are at the beginning of something big, every decision we make now on how to federalize (or otherwise to disband) will kick off a tornado in the future. Right now the world atmosphere is so volatile, you can truly make history!

@@blackhole3298 thing is, decisions are almost always bad when you make them without knowing, so there should be a lot of discussion about this

LOl you a muppet@@norielgames4765

Yes!

why would u need a single language if the current state of languages works well, also there r cases where language has gradual dialect borders between countries too

@theChaosKe 🇨🇭🇨🇦🇦🇺🇺🇸🇮🇳 : We assume you mean in the EU, and not just in Europe (switzerland), or the rest of the world (US, australia, canada, India, etc).

Yes of course, just the EU (as the video is about the EU) @@Kaede-Sasaki

Can you elaborate?

I suspect that only a typical "EU" exercise in double standards, hypocrisy and the coercion of smaller member states will get you anywhere near the "EUSSR" which is what a federal superstate would be in practice, but mercifully we British have already escaped so it's not our problem. Though the obvious defence implications of such a state are its inevitably supplanting NATO's European pillar and so should also result in our full and immediate withdrawal from that too. Hopefully along with the other non-EU allied powers, especially the other two Anglosphere ones.

Yes I agree, if you were in the UK, would you support the "handing over" of the control of the UK's National Interest to a Federal EU ?

We also know where it's biases lie

So Waterloo and Trafalgar didn’t happen?

@@jimbodimbo981 In Waterloo did more Germans fight than Brits. The Prussian army of general Blücher had more soldiers than Wellingtons army. The Brits would’ve lost that battle without Prussia and the Prussian army.

Probably an oversimplification, but the UK was the only major country always against Napoleon, Russia and the German states supported Napoleon in stages, so if the UK didn’t push them against Napoleon then he would’ve won. The UK did also fund large parts of the coalition but yes didn’t fight too much on land themselves, so the UK led the way everywhere else except blood.

Nothing said here by GTBT was incorrect. The UK fought Napoleon more than the Prussians, Austrians and Russians. Britain wiped out the combined French and Spanish navies with no other support, liberated the Iberian peninsula - again with no support, and obviously beat Napoleon at Waterloo, the most important battle, which the Prussians would have stood no chance. Your jet-black hatred of Britain is clouding you to the historic facts.

countries in the EU when combined have more soldiers right now than the US does.

@@Mmjk_12 Soldiers are irrelevant.

If smaler countries’s voice is to be “ket listened “ only, the small countries leave ee, immediately. They have no other interest of remaining, than their safety. Not to leave their safety in the hands of Germany.

@@Hrotiberhtaz Iceland and Norway are not interested in joing the EU Iceland because its too far away and its current economic model works it only seriously considered EU membership during the Icelandic financial crisis when Icelandic banks failed but after it switched to a tourist based economy Iceland grew faster than the Eurozone did. Norway doesn't want EU membership because it would have to give up its oil and gas profits and redistribute them to the member sates which it doesn't want to do.

@@HrotiberhtazBro These „State Blocks“ exist already

The Netherlands is more important than Poland, sorry.

​@@nettcologne9186 Not really, it's too small and unlike Poland has no influence on its neighbors.

Yup.

i disliked the video though. so not to feed RU-vid algorithm with this federalist nonsense. there is no federation in the world where each of 27 states speak in different language. and for me as a citizen of a small EU nation, i do not want to be ruled by German and French.

⁠@@arisplugis5197Well, India is a federation and it has 121 languages, tho only 22 are official

@@nosmokejazwinski6297 OK. you forced me to put it in different way now. there is no federation in the world where each of 27 states are different ethnicity, history, tradition, religion and way of life. many things are common, but there are wast differences as well. in everything.

@@arisplugis5197 that still applies to India, tho. There are 4 major racial groups in India and at least 2 thousand ethnicities. India is much more religiously diverse than Europe. Cultures, traditions and history vary significantly from one place to another. That being said, I’m not mentioning this as a “pro EU argument” and claiming that India is a good example to follow, just saying that such federation indeed exists. I think instead of denying its existence, a better argument would be to say that India is the example why such federations are not a good thing which is debatable but at least it’s a rational argument.

So, if you were in the UK, would you support the "handing over" of the control of the UK's National Interest to a Federal EU ?

Then why wouldn't you just move?

right wing conservative goverment that cant take care of migrant issues hahaha good joke if thats right wing i am far-far-far-far-right i guess

@@najak4773 Well. Anything that is to the right from the rulling party is "far right". I even saw evident centrists being called "far right". So "far right" actualy means "not leftist enough".

yeah the whole right and left thing is stupid because politics and our planet is much more complicated to simply use 2 words to describe political views @@wzburzonykisiel

@@najak4773 actually two words may be enough for some general description of certain views. "laissez faire", "nordic model" or "national socialism" speak for themselves.

Everyone to the east from Germany - including EU member states - would have a stroke, as this idea is rather unpopular there.

@@wzburzonykisiel I am from the East of Germany, so obviously not everyone.

@@sogerc1 I mean countries, not individuals.

@@wzburzonykisiel Oh, okay then. Although if a referendum were held I think it would be a good pitch in my country to get rid of the stale politics. But the real question is, who would pitch it?

😂😂😂😂

It's more about France and Germany being desperate. Most countries of the EU mind their business.

Well, real jobs and universities are more and more disconnected.

and what are exactly the advantages of having multiple governments who can't agree on key policies together?

@@TheDarkTemplar3791 What is the advantage of one centralized government who can't comprehend that the conditions in Bulgaria are not the same as in the Netherlands? The EU should stay a trading union with a strong focus on European independence in things like energy, food, manifacturing and raw materials. We don't need a unified European army, that's what Nato is for and we can clearly see that the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels have no clue how to govern a whole continent

In any country there are less prosperous areas as well. But you're probably not a fan of ditching such areas, right? Don't forget that most of the post 2004 members were piss poor former communist countries, some had never been independent countries before. The investment and integration of those countries with the rest of the continent made them develop and prosper massively. Concerning living standards they're not on the level of like Germany, but give it another decade and some will get close to it. And the better off these countries are the more Western Europe will profit from it as well. If you want to look at it from a selfish point of view: it's an investment that in time will really pay off.

@@zaros1781 there’s a difference between regions in your own country vs a random other EU nation, people do not share a sense of belonging in the same way no matter how much some vain politicians try to make it so simply in a desire to be equal with the US/China

They seem to be full-on woke, so they alineate the majority of the population from the start. They won a few seats in the Dutch parliament and have been internally fighting ever since. (Woke people are not nice to each other.)

@@ronald3836that’s okey, we don’t function on majority rule, but proportional representation

@@ronald3836 Being 'woke' doesn't exist. Volt is a functioning party.

@@banicite it does exist, and it turns people into nasty beings.

What is "woke"? ​@@ronald3836

The problem with such a system has proven itself by brexit already. EU has no problems punishing and making it as difficult and painful as possible to leave the union. The thing with power consolidation is that it becomes a black hole. It becomes voracious and wants more. It will look good on paper.. but that black hole will slowly start to tear and bring everything in its orbit closer. Those in the center would make up policies that only favours those in the center, at the expense for those at the rim, effectively it becomes a carrot and whip scenario. Do as we say and join the fold, or you will find yourself recieving the whip more. And if you dare to leave, well.. just look at what we did with GB.. imagine what we will do to you.

Good. Eastern European countries like Poland and Hungary need to learn.@@nelyrions1838