First Gen Intercooled Dodge Cummins VE Dyno Proven 400rwhp and 1000ft-lbs tq Recipe for under $4k

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In this video about Budget VE Performance I explain the parts and modifications needed to make a dyno proven over 400rwhp and over 1000ft-lbs of torque from an Intercooled Dodge First Gen. This truck is fully capable of daily driving and working hard as it regularly pulls my dual tandem goosneck loaded with a gross weight of 25-30K lbs. Note you will not be able to use the 400hp all of the time as egt and cooling system issues will limit it to somewhere around 300hp for sustained power but bursts over 400 will be no problem. The turbo recommended is after testing dozens of HX35-40 configurations as well as s257, s259, and the venerable 62mmS300 stuff. The 300g I have found is the best compromise between spoolup, power, durability, and egt control. A Pyrometer is highly recommended if you will be pulling a trailer. ‪@pddofficial‬ ‪@AreaDieselService‬ ‪@DieselPowerSource‬
Parts List below:
4" Full Exhaust of your choice Price as of 4-1-2024 $400-700
Aftermarket 3piece manifold or stainless your choice www.dieselpowersource.com/t3-... $400
Power Driven Diesel Powerjet Stage 2 VE Injectors powerdrivendiesel.com/product... $725
12mm Head Studs powerdrivendiesel.com/product... $600
s300g turbo 174430 shop.areadieselservice.com/Ca... $1380
Rough total $3600-$4000 catch the right sales and do some shopping and you might could do it for under $3000

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@chapmanracing1206 3 месяца назад

It's been fun watching your journey with the VE trucks. I remember back in 2000 or so watching the hp wars with the ve. I remember breaking 300, 350, 400 then when you blew the internet up with the 600 plus pull. The early 2000's were the best times for diesel enthusiasts I think.

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

Hardly any aftermarket parts available back in those days. You really had to work with the stock stuff and modify it to make it do what it wasn't supposed to do. The crew cab is a much more refined 400+hp than old yellow was. The smoke level and driving manners are much more like a new truck with good throttle response and no idle haze. Old Yellow will be making a comeback though. 🙂

@erickieffer8440 3 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 Old Yellow is quite a benchmark, as far as diesels going down the track goes, I’ll be looking forward to seeing more of it.

@lewiemcneely9143 3 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 YAAY!

@theessexhunter1305 3 месяца назад

Well done Brian....lots of HP without having to get hp to buy it.

@MrWade1010 3 месяца назад

great video, thanks for the good info, I'm going to bump mine up a bit, maybe not 400 lol

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

Well you can folly the same recipe and just don’t turn the fuel screw in as far. It would be just as happy making 300hp as 400hp.

@1958johndeere620 3 месяца назад

I put the s300G on my 89 several years ago. I am at 300 hp to the wheels but have the 727 so that is not bad. Pretty close to runaway with the stock non ic sticks. That is not a horrid price. I paid about a grand for mine long ago. I am on the original head gasket, and bolts so I don't push it any harder. Pretty fun at the power it has. I put the 99 all aluminum power stroke intercooler in at the same time.

@edsmachine93 3 месяца назад

Good information Brian. Certainly alot of Performance. Have a great day.

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

Thanks 👍

@landroverihtractor1965 3 месяца назад

It's incredible what you can do - with a little or a lot of knowledge - I totally respect your ability to work on that stuff and envy your skill. Another great video 👌

@highlandermachineworks5795 3 месяца назад

Awesome work. Not everyone is willing to go in depth about what's needed. One day I'll build another one. But, I enjoy generation 2 just a bit more. Also you and I emailed back about a dream shop bridge crane design a while back. I haven't given up. Just have to put in the work to make it come true. And I'm praying for it to begin this summer.

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

Good luck! Bridge cranes are awesome, best thing I ever did in my shop.

@highlandermachineworks5795 3 месяца назад

@bcbloc02 Absolutely. If you don't mind I'd like to get your input on materials. It's a bit early in the process. It's not urgent. I remember that you figured out what to build those gantry cranes with. Your is probably 10x what I'll ever need. In fact yours is like the holy grail of shop cranes on youtube.

@Hey_Its_That_Guy 3 месяца назад

Great overview, thanks Brian!

@stevenclaeys6252 3 месяца назад

Thank you for another great video. Cheers

@bombardier3qtrlbpsi 3 месяца назад

Great job thanks for sharing your knowledge on hp.👍

@rexmasters1541 3 месяца назад

Very nice results Brian your awesome!!!!

@mog5858 3 месяца назад

keep up the good work. thanks for sharing.

@acmemachining 3 месяца назад

Amazed again by Brian. Thanks for sharing.

@manicmechanic65 3 месяца назад

Great information. I love the no nonsense approach.

@richardlincoln8438 3 месяца назад

Thanks for spending the time to share this information Brian. Best Wishes to You and Your Family.

@Cyrano99X 3 месяца назад

Great video, thanks for sharing. Please more Cummins content

@erickieffer8440 3 месяца назад

Another contribution from Mr. Block just makes my day.

@hillbillysquid1 3 месяца назад

Some good information 👍

@taylorlooney1 3 месяца назад

Brian your mechanical knowledge is impressive.

@jamesretired5979 3 месяца назад

Thanks

@jeremydoblinger3609 3 месяца назад

I bet that truck feels pretty snappy with a trailer hooked up.. great setup..

@Fatamus 3 месяца назад

Whoa, 235 extra bolt on horsepower 😮 oh my God Way cool 😎

@1958johndeere620 3 месяца назад

O ya, and I paid big money for the " Stans exhaust " kit many moons ago, before diamond eye started producing half price kits. Stans was the only 4 inch back exhaust in the late 90's when I started hoppin up the 89.

@lewiemcneely9143 3 месяца назад

Kentucky windage and elevation for the win. Blessings

@turbocobra 3 месяца назад

You need to borrow a sled and chassis dyno... and lets get a youtube get together in kentucky and we can all bring our diesels and give it a try

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

Maybe in a few years. I am working on my own dyno setup but it needs its own building. $$$$ and time..............

@erickieffer8440 3 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 I’m anxiously awaiting seeing your dyno. in operation. I’ve seen enough bad things happen on a dyno. that I do now understand the importance of a separate building.

@decentgarage 3 месяца назад

Oh boy... I can hear the Holset boys clanking away on their keyboards! 😅

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

I just state the facts as I have found them. I have not yet found a configuration of Holset that can make as much boost at as low an egt as the 300g. The 60-67 9 holset is a powerhouse but it runs hotter under load and with its small shaft and bearings its not as durable.

@decentgarage 3 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 yeah, I am not a turbo wizard but I do like seeing the banter back and forth between the two. I ordered a savage fab 9 cm housing for my sxe.

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

@@decentgarage can’t wait to here how you like it and how it compares for egts towing.

@decentgarage 3 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 yeah, I'm going I'm going to test it again the stock sxe as a single and then test the stock vs 9cm housing in compounds

@elroyelblander6277 3 месяца назад

👍👍👍👍... A getrag can handle 1,000 ft lbs... I had two trucks at perhaps 300 hp and ?? Ft lbs.. both broke getrags... bearing's in one and input shaft in the other i think...i switched to auto truck's and learned to fix them eventually 🤣🤣.... don't matter..not that anyone cares about my experiences..lol..but anyway. Thank you for another video feller... keep on doing what you do...see ya next time 👍👍👊

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

That is why I pull heavy in direct it saves the trans. 😀

@elroyelblander6277 3 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02👍👍 Right on...but I didn't even pull/ haul anything with either of those trucks..just had a heavy foot...and both G360's still broke..oh well,guess they just didn't like me🤣..but anyway 👍👊

@Kimmels_garage 3 месяца назад

Do you have any tricks to keep the little fuel pin that rides against the AFC fuel pin from sticking. Mine starts sticking once the motor gets up to full temp, when the motor is still cold it seems fine. I’ve taken it apart and tried several types of grease and oils on the pin. After a couple thousand miles it starts sticking again. I can tell because the truck will make 35lbs of boost fairly easily when it’s free, when it’s sticking it only builds about 20lbs, unless you put it to the floor. Thanks

@SuperBowser87 3 месяца назад

How ya been doing Mr. B ?

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

Busy!

@jamesking481 19 дней назад

What are your egt's with this set up?Is towing going to make it super hot? Please and thank you

@bcbloc02 19 дней назад

I had literally just unhooked from my dual tandem gooseneck before dynoing and that is 16000lbs between my truck and trailer. I regularly gross mid 20k and do fine, I probably can sustain low to mid 300rwhp levels and keep egts in check. At full kill and 3300rpm it’s like 1800f though so it would not live there long.

@franklogan494 2 месяца назад

Hi Brian, I have an Automatic 93 Dodge 4x4, which Turbo would you recommend, it is a stock truck with upgraded Bd exhaust manifold, upgraded Ve pump and a above stock rebuilt transmission, no upgrades to the head bolts. And what brand of oil do you use? Thank you!

@bcbloc02 2 месяца назад

If you don’t have injectors the stock turbo will be just fine. If it still has the 18 or 21cm exhaust housing on it changing to a 12 will make it drive WAY better. Oh and I have used Deere 15w40 oil for years in all my vehicles. It is good stuff.

@franklogan494 2 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 Thank you you Brian, yes I have stock injectors, I live on the Westcoast and Smokey trucks are looked down on and receive unwanted attention. Thank you for the oil tip and I will see want is available.

@jamesking481 20 дней назад

Hello Sir, I really want to do this recipe to mine just wondering if the power jet pdd injectors you bought were second gen ones that you adapted because on the website the power jets are all second gen. Also I really want the 300g but my buddy has a hx 35 w/ exhaust brake for 700. Do you think it will be ok?

@bcbloc02 19 дней назад

It depends on your ultimate power goal. An hx35-12 is an excellent choice for 350rwhp and under. If you want to crank the pump up to that 400+rwhp range its going to be really high on egts. I found the VE powerjets on PDD website no problem. They list 3 stages I recommend the 2's. The 3 gives a touch more power but with noticeably more smoke for the limited gain I don't think it is really worth it.

@jamesking481 19 дней назад

Thank you for the reply!@@bcbloc02

@Wjones450 3 месяца назад

Hey Brian, I work for a JD dealer in the north east. Do you run Plus 50 II in your trucks? Whats your take on it? Thanks for any input

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

Yes I run the regular 15-40 most of the year and the 0w-40 in the winter.

@Wjones450 2 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 when I saw the JD battery in your truck I was like hmm got me thinking about oil. Thanks for your reply. I also do the same. In fact my truck just about stopped using oil when I made the switch. With rotella my truck would burn roughly 2 qts within 5000 miles. Now it's less than 1/4 qt I would estimate.

@bcbloc02 2 месяца назад

@@Wjones450 I was envolved with some of the Jdq testing several years ago before the plus 50 2 came out and I can say the Deere oil is impossible to beat for the price in an engine that is run hard especially if you take advantage of its extended drain interval. If you run rotella you better change it twice as often like Deere recommends because it won’t last like the Deere oil. I have seen it on the dyno and in the oilscan results.

@daleolson3506 3 месяца назад

I call bullshit on the company saying putting dimples in diesel pistons increases the efficiency 50 percent. What’s your thoughts?

@Broken_Yugo 3 месяца назад

They'd be bought out by an engine manufacturer if that were true.

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

Yes it appears to be a scam along the lines of the achates deal. There has been testing similar performed on aerodynamic mods to diesel pistons in sae papers. Their results were more in the -4 to 7% range for fuel improvements. Combustion dynamics is still to this day a complicated thing best proven out by imperial testing. Computer models still struggle with accurate prediction Any gains seen with these pistons likely come from other proven techniques that they employ like thermal and friction coatings along with ring changes for better cylinder sealing more so than from the dimples themselves.

@franklogan494 3 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 Plus they cost $3770.00 U.S. a set, starting for second gen and up only. Great channel Brian, watched you on Utube dynoing at Firepunk you did great, in my opinion. I have a 93 first gen. Keep up the great content!

@bcbloc02 3 месяца назад

@@franklogan494 Unless you mean 24v when you say 2nd gen you can swap any 12v piston with any other but of course you change compression and the design of the combustion chamber doing that. My truck is a work truck not a toy so it can't tolerate being as wild as most of those race toys.

@franklogan494 3 месяца назад

@@bcbloc02 Thank you Brian for letting me know the difference, it sure helps.