First Take gets heated debating LeBron vs. Kevin Durant 

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"With the fate of the universe on the line"

@@abhishekacharjee9931 The Toon Squad better recruits Iggy

@@abhishekacharjee9931 just to take out all the credits to steph and klay 😂😂 max is trash@

Hai-Lin Duckett 😂😂😂

Everyone:

Julian Cruz I think him and kyrie live on the same flat earth....wherever that is

Perk living in Mars 😂

Perk hating on KD

He's from Jupiter

Andrew Decker well said

Andrew Decker couldn’t have said it better

@@studious2k-24 lol thanks

And had nothing to do with Wade, Bosh, or KI. Lebron would go bananas if he had to play with RW. Now I think Westbrook is a great competitor but he couldn’t accept KD as a leader on that Thunder team. SAS is right, KD’s talent is off the charts. I would take him on my team over LBJ any day, I’d be more selective who I bring in to play with him.

​@@partizanbgd0113 With all due respect i never said anything about it having nothing to do with Bosh and Dwade and i respect your opinion, KD is the better pure scorer but Lebron is the better all around Player imo. Durant in his career has averaged 27 pts, 7 rebs and 4 asts on 49.3% from the field and 38.1% from 3. Bron averages 27.1 pts, 7.4 rebounds and 7.4 asts over his career shooting 50.4% from the field and 34.4% from 3. Since 2004, LeBron has amassed 6911 playoff points, which is more than 10 teams in the NBA. Imagine scoring more than 1/3 of the whole league . He is #1 in all-time playoff points almost 3000 ahead of the next active player on the list (Kevin Durant- 4032 points). He averages 28.9 points, 8.9 rebounds, 7.1 assists, 1.8 steals, and even 1 block per game in the playoffs and is the only player to reach 35,000pts, 8,000 rebs and 8,000 asts,That is the definition of all-round. Down 3-1 against the Warriors, nobody gave the Cavs a chance in 2016. 32-0 was the record of teams who were 3-1 up in a Finals series. This Warriors team had just come off the best regular-season performance as they finished with a record of 73-9. The Cavs did the unthinkable as they came from behind to win 4-3 as LeBron delivered at the biggest stage. With 27 points, 11 rebounds, and 11 assists in Game 7. Also contrary to popular belief Lebron statistically is a good clutch player and as of 2018:Game-tying/go-ahead field goals with under 10 seconds left in the postseason: Michael Jordan: 7/15 (47%) Kobe Bryant: 5/22 (23%) LeBron James: 12/23 (52%)

exactly that's what I'm saying, I was happy for KD for winning his 1st ring even though i disliked him but I also discredit his championship

@@thekingofball2341 why discredit, he was best in 2017 and 2018 finals, he's not zaza pachulia type of player to discredit his rings he's one of the best ever

@@kila338 I don't really discredit I just think his Warriors championships was easy but Lebron rings were challenging. And people discredit LeBron laker ring like it's his fault the clippers choked

@@thekingofball2341 agreed

Yea yall count lebrons rings with miami whats the difference

there are also talent of being smart and being stupid, S.A.Smith just got one of those, which one do you think?😂

hey man the new season starts in like 2 months lmfao

They gotta get that ad revenue bruh

Yessssir Jacob 👏🏽

Yea, the La vs La fell thru. This will too lol

I agree though KD hasn’t played all year 😂

@Joshua Haynes With 3 other stars forgot that part. Also lebron owned kd in the finals heat vs thunder kd had to join the warriors just to beat him

@@darkestmuta1239 KD's first finals? Least he didn't get sweept like...

Joshua Haynes switch lebron and KD and see who wins 🤣🤣

@@awesome7135 Didn't matter for Lebron when he got injured last year apparently

Facts. It's hard to accept that LeBron is better than MJ when in reality, you don't want anyone to be better than MJ.

Facts. Because if talent, lebron is more a complete player than jordan. So they go with resume.

@@jaylynsacrez4450 Nah LeBron was only rated so high from fans under 25 yo like you and all the others. It shows you never seen Jordan, and therefore you didn't know that MJ was far better than LeBron

LEBRON JAMES

@invalid username so he chokes every single time ?

KD probably loses to Indiana in 5

​@@hostbewylinfacts!!!

FACTS. If we go by his logic and “level the playing field” I take LBJ OVER MJ. Narrative spinning. Whats funny is how come JIMMY BUTLER is the first in all these years to outplay Lebron, why KD NEVER done that?

Couldn’t said it any better.

@Sucky Sucky Fucky Fucky MJ is not far ahead of LeBron with respect to either talent or resume. They are neck and neck. That's why the discussion comparing the two persists. Putting one ahead of the other is just nitpicking and hero worship at this point.

As a an overall player LeBron is better(other then scoring ). Accomplishment wise mj done more but we gotta take into account the team's and longevity...which the bulls were perfect in...lebron however not so much.

Sucky Sucky Fucky Fucky idk about talent wise buddy as MJ can not guard LeBron 🤣 i’m not even sure MJ can guard KD those assignments would of went to either Pippen or Rodman .. MJ didn’t have to exert much energy on defense so he could go ALL OUT on offense which made him look godlike ya know 🤷🏽‍♂️ i honestly think a lot of players today have more talent than MJ just because training is different people learned from different eras and perfected it

He did say he's living on Earth

Perk is a straight clown

He came straight out of high school

A bit unfair . World doesn’t have to mean a planet . If he said “what planet are you living on “ and he said USA then you would have a point

@Bharath Srinivas Boi, KD ain’t even close to LeBron. Stop being delusional.

@@thepeoplestightend1939 Uh YES he is. KD and Bron been the alphas of the NBA for the past decade. YOU are being delusional

@@mdt007 That's cap. Bron and Curry have been the clear alphas.

@@mdt007 one we compare to MJ and one isnt even top 10 all time

@@johnwalters3403 the reason why westbrook was an alpha was because kd was soft he doesnt have leadership skills like mike kobe and lebron he needs a leader beside him

Hot take

@@liveagain2164 Not really. The 2010s were literally the Curry vs LeBron. Those had the most MVPs and met each other in the finals FOUR TIMES.

In early times, it's KD but when 2015 came Steph and Bron rivalry started then it has been ruined when KD transfer to GSW.

@Juwan Dunbar Nah

@Juwan Dunbar LMAOOOO NO.

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Lol ngl that was pretty funny

Typical American ignorance lol

On planet EARF

@@fedacat8 you saying that is ignorant

💀🤣 dreamworks

lmfaoo draymond donkey

To be fair, d wade and AD are MVP caliber players.

D wade was top 5 player in the league when lebron arrived

JRAIDER92 !! But they lost to Dallas.

Perks and max agreed, and said no chance, to kD playing cavs and bring them to the Finals.. even the prime jordan and kobe cant bring that 2007 and 2018 cavs team to the finals!! Period...

@@eroskamasi2309 kd has been the best player since 2017 when he beat lebron to win his first ring up until he tore his achilles in 2019. If lebron is that good he should’ve beat kd in one of those finals but he couldn’t. not a fan of either

@@hawks19_65 ur crazy Lebron is a way better talent

@@michaelnajera901 no way, kd is a better shooter and scorer lebron is just a better playmaker and leader that’s all. but if ur talking ab talent definitely kd. dude is 7ft with guard skills/handles

@@hawks19_65 "just" a better play maker and leader, wow making these two things sound irrelevant. I don't KD as a overly skilled player with the ball, he is tall and has a long wingspan and people that size can't usually safely dribble and and shoot for that size that is his biggest skill. His D is over rated, he is seen as a solo act, he needs other people to create something because his main go to is iso.

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He’s the most meme-able person in the world

Bro thank you 😭

Lmfaoooo golden

Having trouble detecting funny

@Joel Johnson no ron harper is the goat if we are talking about rings

@@jordanbauman-putnam9524 🤨😶

@@DeeSellsYou ron harper has 16 rings

It’s the only argument people will use to try and make their “point”

Jordan Bauman-Putnam Ron Harper has five rings what are you talking about

Facts

KD beat the team that beat the 73-9 team , how bout that

Exactly

@@Mr7Cavalier7 more like KD+73-9 team

@@Mr7Cavalier7 by joining the 73-9 team...........

6'10

Um KD is like a inch taller than LBJ

6'11 bare foot 7ft w shoes

@@hueyfreeman1178 No they re-did the heights this season kd is 6’10 with shoes off 6’11 shoes on he just got a 7’4 wingspan

@@ivy9287 that was cap KD is literally as tall as Giannis

CH yeah that’s the only blip on his record. But you can’t tell me in 4/5 years he’s not winning a chip with Westbrook ibaka 6 man james harden. Period KD hasn’t won a chip without the odds being ridiculously stacked in his favour, they’re not in the same category.

+CH That was one year. You give lebron that stacked okc team and he's winning rings easily. Unlike Durant lebron can actually lead a team and wouldn't have an issue with Westbrook.

@@ThePsp123789 Stacked? You talk as if Andre Roberson, Ibaka, Adams, and Dion Waiters are the 84 Celtics or something. Okc had 0 spacing and Lebron is least effective with no shooters. Do you guys even watch basketball?

@CH he also beat OKC and the Spurs so... 🤷‍♂️

@@oakinw8361 no one said that lol, but I’m 2016 that team was seen as the best team in the playoffs, even igoudala went on to say that it was

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Lmao.

@Davis Baumberger not westbrook no hate to him but he isn't

he was so mad

Cuh slow lmao

He doesn't know the meaning of a rhetorical question lol

They both smirking

Lmfao i was literally searching for this comment🤣🤣

Nah. This what happened to Stephen A after KD and his mom went there 😂

@@zekekasichiro-smith4725 deadass

Well said

Facts

@Paweł Adamowski max just said the truth... kd will only have the respect to be on the same level as lebron if he proves himself next year. this will show how kd doesnt need an allstar team to win

@Paweł Adamowski kd joined. 73 win team argument done.

Paweł Adamowski I hAvE HiGh BaSkEtBaLl KnOwLeDGe

KD already son lebron with those shots in the finals if lebron had any defense about him he would stop him kd can stop lebron but lebron can't stop KD

@Brandon Menifee l

@Brandon Menifee You’re trippin. You know this debate was over when KD joined the Warriors. The real discussion is Steph vs LeBron GOH.

@Daniel Xu I feel like he’s trying to make up for also threatening KD. So he praises him so much now and never says a bad thing cus he wants to be his best friend like every NBA star

Christopher Mikrowelle 🤭👀😳😂

@Christopher Mikrowelle nah

Durant. Better finals record.

@@Matt-bs8pf Common L

Durant better if that’s the Bill Russell is better than Bron cause he accomplished more😹

Lol

You either die a hero....

So true!!

No he didn't

Not even close.

Bruh lmao “way more talented Paul George” got me in tears.

Kevin love Joined that team also it was far from a lottery team so stop it.from top to bottom Cleveland was the better team they should have won the title and had no business being down 3-1

At Ya Mammy House that’s dumb to say lmaooo, if cleveland was the better team they woulda had a better record in the East compared to the warriors record in the west that exact season

More talented Paul George😭😭 If LD got a buzzer beater scored on him, he’s not gonna day that the shot was weak or that it was a bad shot

Cleveland was almost a completely different team when he joined. But I agree - that championship was very impressive.

Oscar Barbeito Do y’all not understand the question dawg we obviously know lebron resume is way better then kd 🙄 kd is close to lebron currently obviously not all time but right now he is close don’t know why kendrick act like it’s not close kd is one of the best scorers ever he in my opinion is a underrated defender Great player 🔥

@@prestonmurphy6948 sure

🤣😂 I died

Christopher Mikrowelle I’m dying

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Rain Flop he’s a terrible analyst

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Literally says earth the next line

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Like Fr I don’t know why they keep saying that. Yeah Westbrook more muscular but he definitely wasn’t more athletic than DRose. I think Nate Robinson even more athletic than Russ. Westbrook do the same stupid one handed dunk every time, he can’t jump with prime DRose

Rus is the most Overrated PG in the history of the NBA!!!

@@brandonthomas4838 I don't think Nate had the end-to-end speed Russ has -- but DRose was waaaaay more athletic than the human body can handle and it ruined his career. His athleticism was off the charts tho even a level above Russ.

russ has similar explosion as Drose and is much bigger and more powerful, he is the better athlete.

I think for DRose it's fair to say that everyone forgot about him because his time as MVP DRose ended way too soon due to Thibs playing him a couple too many minutes . . . Because Russ is still Russ at age 30 . . . when's the last time that DRose was the DRose that we know and love . . . I have to go back to that fateful 76ers game where he still had his athleticism and bounce!!! Then Torn ACL or w/e injury just depraved him of most of his athleticism

Nah its not really his fault its actually kd fault

Thank u smh 🤦🏾‍♂️. They love to make the narrative that is always russ fault.

It’s wild too because KD in those last three games shot sub 45% and less than 35% from 3 while turning the ball over in critical situation after critical situation. Let that have been Bron. He’d never be able to live it down. KD CHOKED in games 5-7. Period point blank.

yaBoy2000 HEARD 😂did you watch that finals ? So let me guess it was harden fault Westbrook lost this year

Trevon Sykes yet how many points did he have those two games

@kapp a wow

KD and Kyrie vs LeBron and AD. That's a lit match up

@@DJQuan718 Lakers will get a third star in the off-season so it would be KD and Kyrie vs LeBron, AD and the third star... 😁👍

Fusionn they cant if theyll keep kuzma jeannie buss treating kuzma like her baby so lakers cant

@Truth Hurts lebron hater

The guy who has a winning record against LeBron in the finals??? 😂

@@brando8888888888 Ehh with the said 73-9 stack greatest superteam of all-time ruining the league and vs Lebron bringing it back to 2003-2010 as far as Twix bars teammates are concerned.

*skill wise not legacy wise

@@vanessaramirez2325 KD a better a scorer and thats it. Lebron is not even the best leader but hes a better leader than KD.

brando8888888888 not facts they’re 2-2 against each other

Perk

@steven richter 😂🤣🤣🤣

Perk in 6

🤣kd ain't never led a team in his life. He's always had talent around him whereas lebron hasent had thar type of talent around him all his career. Give lebron russ in his first 7 years in Cleveland and they're definetely winning at least 1 ring

Kid Dunker bro you just said LeBron hasn’t had that type of talent around him his whole career when he played with Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie and now AD 😂

Swavey I was just finna say that Lebron needs talent around him to win 💀

@@jalenahtx exactly

KD is can defently take that Cleveland team in 2018 to the FINALS, did you see that eastern conference??

😂😂😂 perk is hilarious

haaa

😂😂 Perk a fool

Word it's so obvious

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their good friends idk if that narrative is gonna work especially with Nash as the coach with teammates like levert, harris, allen, and dinwiddie they’ll b fine

Goat - those two have always beefed with teammates so I wouldn’t be surprised tbh.

Goat - that’s what we thought when wade , isiah Thomas, d rose, crowder etc was in Cleveland look how that turned out

I know right lol

Because your good friends don’t mean you gon work good together

Also, that 2017/18 Cavs team were 50-1 for the regular season and playoffs, when leading going into the 4th. THAT team did THAT. LeBron was out here working minor miracles lol

Kd would have quit that team

@@beljonn KD blow a 3-1 lead... Lol...

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@@rehn4529 he was carried by klay and curry, I didn't see soft kd flexing 3-1 up against klay and curry ! Lol..🤣🤣👍

@@rehn4529 stfu KD only reached to the 3 NBA finals. Only 3!!!! Unlike LBJ half of his career always been at the NBA FINALS. He's more dominant, more athletic, more wiser he's the KING LBJ

That's a way too simplistic argument and is blatantly wrong.

DB II. Ahh yea but it wasn’t the same 70 win team close out game draymon was suspended iggy got hurt and bogut missed the last 3 games that series and he was a big part of there offense he was a good passing big man and screen setter

ty jordan bro draymond was there game 6 and 7 and it didn’t make a difference and you really think Andrew bogut is going to make a difference with Lebron and Kyrie on the floor? Your watching too much skip bayless bruh there is no excuses they were up 3-1

@@tb4151 game 6 dray was only there barely because of the way he was being officiated he could risk a tech and being suspended game 7 so he had to play timid and not his usual defensive game. Game 7 was a tossup. it literally came down to 1 shot from almost 40 ft away. and ye bogut would have helped stopped ponts from being scored in the paint on d and helped the offense move with his picks and passing

ty jordan You know you don’t have an argument when you bring up Bogut lmao

if you dont think that then you dont know football

@@russelljohnson437 of course he's a bad man, Stephen a just mentions it even when they're not talking about aaron rodgers

Aaron rodgers is KD in here lol

Stephen Smith he wasn’t talking about Aaron Rodgers per se he was bring up how they are comparing narratives and past work and not their talent

No one?? What world you live in

And lebron has been swept twice in finals gentleman swept twice lost by record margin shot 35% in playoffs and shot 38% and choked in 2011 finals when it was 3 stars vs 1

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And how fast people forget that the last couple of years people were saying that KD was the best player in the game,they need to stop hating on KD because he stopped LB from getting more rings.

Full Deck he joined a 73-9 team of course he was going to look amazing

Full Deck he joined a 73 win team... I’m not gonna say it was just KD that stopped him... maybe adding KD to the team stopped him but not KD individually

When Lebron was injured for Months he was still the best player in the world according to everyone.

He joined a 73 & 9 team that lost a championship ....he joined and help them win the following year ? When have you ever won a championship in the regular season if that’s the case j.harden or giannis would win the chip ever year ? Can’t take his credit he earned it

Don't take the on-screen antics too seriously lol they are co-workers performing their respective duties.

Bro facts, idk why but he got a soft spot for kd

He said Lebron has a way better resume

@@hermonghberihiwot5441 cause he's not ranking kd on an all time great list... but skillwise yes kd is better but knowing what bron fans think... they won't stand for that

MJ still more talented than bron

It’s because they are talking about who is more talented right now... It’s obvious LBJ is better than KD and has a better resume but that’s not the point

Didnt lebron lose to that team in embarrasing fashion lmao lebron fans are hypocrites

Terrell Evans Lol Kd lost to the same exact team and Kobe.. Dirk was no joke that year

@@terrellevans327 Why are you talking about LeBron fans when you were the first person in this thread to even say his name. YOU brought him up. Not his fans...

@@linmac2137 because lebron lost to the same team of the person who u said rings count but not KD's. KD was more dominant and did twice. Lebrons two rings were with a superteam so two of his dont count. Kd was dominant and was the best player on the floor when he won his rings

@@terrellevans327 You have me confused with the person that posted the comment. Also, LeBron has 3 rings as of right now. LeBron was also the best player on all his teams he won rings with so I don't see your point.

Smh right. Ever heard the phrase "how quickly they forget"

They just hate lebron cause he's that good.

He not a complete scorer tho

OG Surpremezz the problem is, he never used that skill hardly.

Wrong...he’s not nowhere near as lethal as KD...Lebron always has the ball in his hands and can pick his spots where kd gets the ball where ever and is a bucket...Lebron can go get buckets but he’s not a walking bucket...you can give the ball kd in any situation and he can get a bucket...you can’t do that with Lebron...he has to get hot or bully you to the basket...be he’s nowhere near the shooter that kd is, he doesn’t have the moves kd has, and he doesn’t have the arsenal of kd...you can cut certain things off and hinder lebrons offensive game...what can you stop kd from doing 😂😂😂

Cause OKC didn’t wanna trade overrated Westbrook.

he's not overrated but definitely erratic @@irgelreal

if we're talking Healthy KD he is better than LBJ in his 17th season lol

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Hstersnipe Healthy prime ID or current healthy KD? Cause KD is also already past his prime.

@@trueballer6880 eh I'd say KD is still in his prime he just turned 32 and doesn't rely that much on his athleticism

@@trueballer6880 Tf are you talking about? KD is still very much in his prime. His years on the Warriors has been the best years of his career. Just because his numbers dropped a little doesn't mean he got worse. He just went to a much better team with other people who could score. Lebron's numbers dropped a little too when he went to Miami, yet everyone considers his Miami years his prime.

Lebron got sent home first round

Don't sound pathetic to me. Kd is a very a talented man. And in the finals LeBron shyed away from that Kd challenge..

@@geneusmind3192 kd joined a 73 win team who didnt need him to win rings. Not to mention he made the weakest move ever by joining a team you were up 3-1 on but still lost. He took a very easy way out to win rings. Man literally played with a top 3 greatest team ever to win rings no one gives him credit for.

GeneUs Mind KD joined the best team in the league. Before that, he had a team with two MVP players who were arguably top 10 of this generation, and couldn’t win a single championship. Cleveland was a lottery team when Lebron left. It’s not close and it never will be.

Joel Johnson no its luka

He's racist

That’s literally Perk too

Credit for a much stronger team than the Cavs. Easy ring for Lebron, MJ would have swept this Miami team if he was onthis Lakers team in the current day and age.

Adam Samuel j casual Jordantard lol

@@its-alexz5234 exactly I'm a jordan fan but the the jordan tards are ridiculous

They won’t give AD the credit he deserves, they are already saying LeBron is carrying the team.

all fax no printer

All you did was name pg qualities because LeBron plays PG. Kd better scorer, defender, equal rebounder, and more clutch.

Vituoso. ✊🏾💯

Brendan Bloom you saying Kd clutch when he blew a 3-1 lead to the warriors and then the next year teamed up with them😂😂 you funny and delusional

Brendan Bloom definitely not an equal rebounder nor is he a better defender. And where are these clutch stats that are over Lebron? You talking about two shots lol. Bron has many more than two. So you’re just talking. No facts

Omm he cant😭💯

Facts!

It was the East , who would’ve stopped him?

Yes he would its kd. If lebron can kd can. Kd is a better player

He on something 💀

Kenyon McKee Exactly because LeBron is better skill wise. Edit : You edited your comment. Put it back to “ Mentioning MJ and LeBron in the same sentence is an insult “.

@@kenyonmckee2268 Facts!

U are right I want to mention lebron,paul george,patrick beverly in the same sentence..

SkipTastic!!! ! LeBron can play every position at an elite level. Scores like a SG, PG, gets rebounds like a C, SF, PF, and can get a large amount of assist better than any other PG in the league. LeBron beats MJ overall as a player. No one can does what he does except KD. Not even much better only a bit in PTS and FG% His legacy is tarnished but I still believe he’s top 5 of all time. LeBron is the most elite ball player to touch a basketball. All MJ could do was score on plumbers and play good D. If LeBron has the assist averages as MJ he could have just as many PTS.

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