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Village of Key Biscayne continues to step on the rights of the public. They will soon be having there second reading and pass an ordinance. Lets make sure it is challenged. Let them hear your voice respectfully. Thanks for watching.
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@rogerarmendariz7633
@rogerarmendariz7633 2 месяца назад
They probably want tax dollars because no license plates on ebikes , so it bothers them.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Thank you, Roger. I think in this town’s case is just a knee-jerk reaction. But I’m sure they’ll take the money at some point. Thanks for watching.
@AdrepKeith
@AdrepKeith 2 месяца назад
It is NOT a difficult problem at all legally. It is not the town or states, bikepath, trail., or roadway. All those things are THE PEOPLES PROPERTY, paid for by our taxes! And are protected by our United States Constitution. Those rights would include right to free travel.
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 2 месяца назад
What we need here is to have a large group of e bikers organize a ride on our e bikes over there, ride legally on the streets only and see if they're gonna arrest or issue fines to dozens of riders. But, of course, it won't happen. People around here are like sheep. Going along with whatever the Gestapo govt decides to do.
@F.O.GFatOldGuy
@F.O.GFatOldGuy 2 месяца назад
I'm in but I ain't going alone lol
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
At some point I will make it to South Florida. There is no question about that. We will see what their actual ordinance reads. They are going to have the second reading this week if I’m not mistaken. Thanks much for watching Pedro.
@F.O.GFatOldGuy
@F.O.GFatOldGuy 2 месяца назад
@@southernebiking I have a 40+ mph ebike on the way. I'm down for a group ride.
@F.O.GFatOldGuy
@F.O.GFatOldGuy 2 месяца назад
@@markstevens4264 goofballs in spandex should be banned.
@F.O.GFatOldGuy
@F.O.GFatOldGuy 2 месяца назад
@@markstevens4264 if you want less freedoms, I'm sure there are wonderful countries outside the United States that would love to have you.
@jhondoe6735
@jhondoe6735 2 месяца назад
Outlaw cars, trucks too.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
According to the philosophy in this town that would be consistent. Thanks for watching.
@bedardpelchat
@bedardpelchat 2 месяца назад
I have a e-bike. I don't use it as a scooter on bike paths. I pedal. When necessary I used the Assist. Otherwise I consider bikes are for exercising and it happens also to be my main mode of transportation. I don't go 40 mph and I don't try to. Especially on bike paths. So if one wants speed get on a car or a motorbike and enjoy yourself. Otherwise more places are going to ban e-bikes because some people abuse their freedom which for some people means "Me, myself and I".
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
I agree 100%. Thanks much for watching
@garywillhoit
@garywillhoit 2 месяца назад
Biscayne Florida has two bike shops and a Everglades Bike club in nearby Miami. Contact them. They are local and should have an interest n this issue.
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 2 месяца назад
You forget they look down on e bikes. We're just a bunch of lazy old farts that don't want to pedal.
@garywillhoit
@garywillhoit 2 месяца назад
@@pedrofernandez8729 if you don’t find local ally’s , you are wasting your time. Bet there are people in the bike club who knows ebike riders. Bike shops sell ebikes. Don’t assume. Always ask. Remind them they are next. License , insurance, speed limits etc.
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 2 месяца назад
@@garywillhoit The e bike rider who hit that woman was a kid, doubt that we are gonna get much backing on this.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Great idea. I will contact them this week. Thanks for the tip.
@jakebrakebill
@jakebrakebill 2 месяца назад
all the manufactures have the biggest dog in this fight, where are they at ?
@camerawheel
@camerawheel 2 месяца назад
So, have they banned cars? I am pretty sure some people have died from car accidents. Of course not wearing a helmet was not the actual cause the same way driving under the influence, or not wearing a seat belt. how about phones? How many deadly accidents are caused by phones?
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Exactly correct. They’re just taking a tragedy and using it as a weapon against something they do not like. Thanks so much for watching and for the support.
@ArmandGirard
@ArmandGirard 2 месяца назад
I'm no lawyer but I believe Key Biscayne is using Florida Law Section 316.008 (1) (h) to give them the powers for the ban: 316.008 Powers of local authorities.- (1) The provisions of this chapter shall not be deemed to prevent local authorities, with respect to streets and highways under their jurisdiction and within the reasonable exercise of the police power, from: (h) Regulating the operation of bicycles. That would explain why Crandon Boulevard is exempt since that is a county road. The emergency ban that was put into effect Feb 16, 2024 became permanent until 2025. The only way this ban can be overturned is for someone to sue the Village. Question is, who has the resources to do so?
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
You are exactly right with your last statement there it’s going to take somebody to sue. I am aware of the 316.008. The problem is they have now discriminated against electric bikes because they stated very plainly regular bikes are not included in this and Florida state law says E bikes are the same as regular bikes, with the same rights. I believe this is where they have their problem. I’m still waiting on a phone call from somebody with any authority down there. Thank you so much for watching and thank you for the comment.
@Herbsswamp
@Herbsswamp Месяц назад
I will be a OUTLAW!!! F EM !!!
@seniorp9444
@seniorp9444 Месяц назад
As far as I know, class 1 e-bikes are considered regular bikes and can go anywhere bikes can go in all 50 states. If it’s class 3, most e-bikes that go over 20 mph, it basically has to be ridden only where scooters and mopeds would be legal.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking Месяц назад
Thank you for watching and yes, that is my understanding as well. However, this town has completely banned all ebikes. I am not talking about on bike paths, but from the streets as well. They have already done their first reading of an ordinance that I have not been able to find the verbiage, too. I believe they know full well. That dis is completely unconstitutional and illegal. But I believe they are doing what much of the government does, and that is doing it anyway, in hopes that no one will challenge it or they could get a judge that would back them up. I spoke to the chief of police in this town and he told me they were giving a $250 fine. For the first offense and five hundred after. He claims they can do that because they are under an emergency order. I don't think that would hold up legally as well. Because In florida, ebikes have the same rights as bicycles, I am talking to legally defined ones. I e class one. That would be like saying an emergency order can ban all blue mustangs from the road. But again it has to be challenged
@Nemonurwingy
@Nemonurwingy 2 месяца назад
On the legality side, I’ve only looked briefly, but I do wonder what the underlying ownership of the village roads is. It was originally developed as a planned community, and I think those roads were HOA roads. The ebike ban exempts the only County road that runs through the community, so there might be something unique about the ownership of the other roads. The public works department only mentions that it oversees contracts to make repairs to village roads, which sounds very HOA like. Given it was a 12 year old on an ebike that seems to have caused this accident, it seems like a better approach would have been to ban people under 16, if that’s the problem they are having (as articles suggest).
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Thanks much for watching. I think they are just looking at this with the attitude of never let a good tragedy go to waste. Their meeting last month, one of the council members plainly stated that he’s been trying to get rid of these E bikes for a long time. as far as the HOA’s and the legality. I am pretty sure even with an HOA, they are public roads. If that were not the case, I would guess the village police could stop any person on any of those roads and do whatever they wanted. Now, if it is a private community, that would be different. I’m still gonna stay on top of this. Again, thanks for watching.
@Nemonurwingy
@Nemonurwingy 2 месяца назад
@@southernebiking On the HOA thing, I’ve lived in big HOAs before where there were fully private roads in many parts of the community, the County wouldn’t service them. Looking at the history of Key Biscayne, it clearly started out as a private development and then became a municipality much later, but I wonder if some weirdness with the road ownership persisted and that’s why they may be able to do this if they aren’t public roads.
@toddvirta7667
@toddvirta7667 2 месяца назад
Out law the wheel...people may get hurt.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂 thanks for watching Todd. You are correct that’s what some people would have everyone else to do. Of course I won’t do it for themselves.
@coyoteself
@coyoteself 2 месяца назад
Back in the 80s here in NM, the state DOT attempted to ban ALL bicycles from any state road above with a certain speed limit. The State Police said they wouldn't (couldn't?) enforce it and various cycling group statewide stood up against. It's been a longggg time, but I believe that since the stated takes federal money to help maintain those state roads, the state wasn't allowed to ban cyclist from riding on them. It shouldn't be any different in other states and for ebikes
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Great point. The problem is going to be someone needs to sue to see this happen. Thank you much for watching.
@user-fe2im9yc8s
@user-fe2im9yc8s 2 месяца назад
Isn't Florida the self proclaimed FREEDOM state? Punishing everyone for a single persons mistake seems pretty lame.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Extremely good point. Thanks for watching.
@jefferyschic
@jefferyschic Месяц назад
They claim such but regulate your every move. Hypocrisy
@dangeroustoman
@dangeroustoman 2 месяца назад
Need to get a bunch of bikes together for a ride.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
If something like this could happen. It would need to happen with all classified ebikes. If a bunch of folks went down there on very fast bikes, it would just solidify their decision. But I would love to get about 30 of us together on class one ebikes. I stand by their ordinance to ban all E bikes from public roads cannot fly. Thanks for watching.
@bassw1758
@bassw1758 2 месяца назад
I don't think anybody from Florida actually cares, key Biscayne is only about a mile long stretch of road, it's definitely a pretty ride,, but it's not very bicycle-friendly getting there because you have to go through downtown Miami.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
I am unfamiliar with the local area, but it should be important because it is setting a precedent. That is my issue with it. I could certainly avoid key biscayne and not lose any sleep. Thanks for watching.
@davidanderson6222
@davidanderson6222 2 месяца назад
Florida seems to be a Karen state. Lol
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
I don’t know that whole state is like this. I’m sure they are caring communities in every state. Heck why am I talking about, they’re on every street. Lol thanks much for watching David.
@stevecumming6427
@stevecumming6427 2 месяца назад
Yesterday I passed a cop here in CA on my Mars with 2 small baskets front & rear, saddlebags, no chain or chain ring, crank arms aligned & 9.5" rise on Gull Wing bars. I had 4 shopping bags & no helmet wearing flip flops & half gloves. He followed me & pulled in behind me at my residence but no bubblegum lights lit up. He wanted to know how long I'd had it, how far on a charge, how much $ & if I liked it. Told him $750 at Amazon or Walmart but Heybike now only sells the Mars 2.0 on its website. Not the best customer service but they do sell replacement parts for their eBikes.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Well, that’s because most places, people are reasonable, including the police. Then you get some towns that are nothing but Karen run. Thanks so much for watching Steve. I do appreciate it. BTW, these, Karen, towns are in every state.
@longrider42
@longrider42 2 месяца назад
So you've turned your Ebike into a scooter?
@dalechannel2156
@dalechannel2156 Месяц назад
Who actually caused the accident the regular bicycle or the electric bicycle? And if they don’t know did they ban bicycles 2+ electric bicycles
@southernebiking
@southernebiking Месяц назад
The ebike was written by a minor so the accident is not public record. Even if I assume that the E bike caused the accident, the E bike did not tell the regular bicyclist to ride without a helmet. How many cars hit bicycles? Yet we’re not banning them. This is definitely a case of these town officials having a problem with ebikes. The problem that I have with them is they are not addressing the true problem, but it just trying to take the easy way out. If they have used running around on Ebikes, causing a problem. I would be willing to bet they were undefined the bikes. They could address it that way. They could address the violation, not the vehicle. They could’ve put out an emergency order that everybody riding a bicycle has to wear a helmet. Of course, that would’ve been just as easy to do as banning the ebikes. no, I am convinced someone with some perceived authority in this town has a problem with ebikes, and one of the committee members even stated he’s been trying to do this for several years. Notice I said, perceived authority. We have to remember these are our servants. We are not theirs. Thanks for watching.
@jamesbarry2388
@jamesbarry2388 2 месяца назад
Will this ever end so tired of hearing about it. Get the governor involved to shut these regulators up!
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching James. Believe me I’ve made my calls.
@dogmom9928
@dogmom9928 2 месяца назад
how is the ebike rule in place for the rest of the state
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Everywhere else in the state, electric bicycles are treated the same as regular bicycles with the same rights and privileges. Thanks for watching.
@jaycoleman8062
@jaycoleman8062 Месяц назад
I have one that goes faster than it should. I didn't modify it in any way. Why do they allow them to be sold then? I agree that some riders are bad, just like any form of transportation.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking Месяц назад
Thanks for watching jay. The industry definitely bear some fault in this. If they were to keep their bikes as they should be labeled class, 1 class 2 Etc, I think we would be much better off. We have a video coming out in the morning. That explains what the different classes actually are. Again, thank you for watching. We appreciate it
@jaycoleman8062
@jaycoleman8062 Месяц назад
The way they get away with it is to use kilometers. I saw 53km on mine once which we both know is too fast for regular people.
@josealvarez9517
@josealvarez9517 2 месяца назад
Crandon Blvd the spine road of the island is a county road so any restriction Key Biscayne passes cannot be enforced on it.
@PlayingInVestapol
@PlayingInVestapol 2 месяца назад
If Ebikes are Outlawed , Then only Outlaws will have ebikes. That's a beautiful trail. which one is it. I tried contacting them but got one response either.
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 2 месяца назад
But the crash happened on a street corner, no trail involved.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching. The trail in the video is the Dan Riverwalk Trail in Danville Virginia. Really nice trail. Again thanks for watching.
@DavidBostock-ti2fv
@DavidBostock-ti2fv 6 дней назад
As I understood it some time ago Federal law on e bikes prohibits legislation on e-bikes that all bikes are not subject to. All the idiots that voted for the crime and the city attorney must be held accountable for their abuse of power
@longrider42
@longrider42 2 месяца назад
A Class 1 Ebike, is Pedal Assist Only. No Throttle. So the motor only works when the person is pedaling. Class 2 Ebike has both Pedal Assist and a Throttle. I ride a Class 2 Ebike. Class 3 is an Ebike with Throttle only, now your getting into the grey area of Electric bikes. Where they are more of a moped, and less of a bicycle. A few states are working on laws that will make a person who rides a Class 3 Ebike, that can go over 28mph, on the flat, using the Throttle, acquire a license, and have insurance. I see nothing wrong with that. My Ebike has a top speed using throttle of about 18mph. I can get it up to 20mph, if I pedal really hard, in a high gear. Your probably not going to get any where trying to call those people. Like some one else said. Contact the two bike shops in the town, and any local clubs. That"s a good work around. Good luck
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Not sure what state you were in but every state that I am aware of, class three has no throttle. It has pedal assist only. Any bike can pedal as fast as you can pedal it but the motor cuts out at 28 mph. there are some states that vary somewhat. But I have not seen any state that has a class three is throttle only. Very interested as to where you got this information. Thanks for watching.
@longrider42
@longrider42 2 месяца назад
@@southernebiking California has set up the Ebike Class System. Oregon, Colorado, and Wyoming have follow its example. So again. Class 1 is pedal assist or PAS only. The motor only works when you pedal. Class 2, which is what I ride. Is a bicycle with a PAS and a Throttle. I like having the throttle, makes it easier to start up at a stop light or stop sign. Class 3 is also a bicycle, with pedals, but has the Throttle Only. And if it can go above 28 miles per hour, and many Class 3 Ebikes can. I have a friend who rides a Class 2, that can go over 28 miles per hour using throttle only. In California they are working on a law that will require people who ride a Class 3 Ebike, that can go over 28 mph, on the flat, to get a license, wear a helmet and get insurance. And yes I am talking about a bike with pedals, and some kind of electric motor. I converted my two wheeled recumbent, into a Class 2 Ebike back in 2019. I live in Wyoming. Its not a law yet, but I think it soon will be. Too many kids and young people are getting these over powered high speed Ebikes, and many are not ready for them. I've almost been hit several times. Oh, and my Ebike, uses a 48 Volt 500 Watt hub motor, built into the front wheel.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
@@longrider42 I would love for you to point me towards this policy. I just checked california dmv.gov and it states class three is a low speed electric bicycle which can attain a speed of 28 mph by paddling only. At that point the motor cuts off. Something to that effect. if you have some different information than this, I would be very interested in seeing where you have found it. Thanks much.
@longrider42
@longrider42 2 месяца назад
@@southernebiking Well this was a few years ago that I looked. So it has been changed. So what class is a Ebike with pedals, and Throttle only, that can go over 28mph? Because I know they exist. Plus where I live I've seen Ebikes, with pedals go zooming past me, and I know they are going faster then 28mph.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
@@longrider42 they definitely exist. But they are not in any class. They are undefined. They are definitely open to being regulated. My flight is to make sure they do not change the regulations on what already exist. Thanks so much for watching.
@Forgotten_Boy
@Forgotten_Boy 2 месяца назад
People in power savorrrrr that powerrrrr. They feel threatened when you have freedom. They are creating more libertarians with this kind of treatment.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
I have said very often, all the right, and the left are just opposite cheeks are the same tail. So you are correct. I agree. Thanks for watching.
@garywillhoit
@garywillhoit 2 месяца назад
Florida has been busy taking away rights . The last few years. Since this is a local issue, they don’t care about outsiders input. Outsiders can’t vote. You found out how effective calling is. They have been given the power in the state constitution , they will use it. Have you heard any input from local bike shops in Florida. Or from Florida ebike RU-vidrs? 0:00
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching Gary. Have not had any input from bike shops in Florida. I don’t think Florida is taking away more rights than any other state. This is not a right or left thing. This is as I Collett, both sides are the opposite cheek of the same backside. They both do it. Again, thanks for watching.
@F.O.GFatOldGuy
@F.O.GFatOldGuy 2 месяца назад
They don't even care about our input.
@garywillhoit
@garywillhoit 2 месяца назад
@@southernebiking read about Florida policies on women's health care. What can be taught and how its taught in school. Illinois is protecting rights.
@beaurex4756
@beaurex4756 2 месяца назад
@@southernebiking False Equivalence drivel. While neither party is perfect, one of them is a crime syndicate that masquerades as a political party - the GOP Coup Clux Clan.
@bvrsqzr3569
@bvrsqzr3569 2 месяца назад
I'm curious and just asking. Seeing how even driving a vehicle is a privilege given to by tbe state not a right. What right did they take away?
@bruceclark5627
@bruceclark5627 2 месяца назад
If everyone that has an e-bike would just have a ride out,and when I costs the town $80,000 in court fees,they'll come around .
@daniellarusso8012
@daniellarusso8012 2 месяца назад
I'm kinda surprised that Florida hasn't ruled that E-bikes are woke, and need to be banned entirely... lol :)
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
😆😆😆
@giorgioclavelli1757
@giorgioclavelli1757 2 месяца назад
🤣🤣🤣
@dreskie6993
@dreskie6993 2 месяца назад
How do one situation determine a banned. Society is sad
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
I have watched all of their counting meetings lately. They were just looking for any excuse to get rid of ebikes. As a matter fact, they stated as such. Thanks so much for watching. You are correct about society.
@williamjarvis3473
@williamjarvis3473 2 месяца назад
These tyrants could care less. Nobody will contact you lol, "mind over matter, they don't mind and you don't matter". Contact the e-bike manufacturers and get them behind it. Sue the piss outta the town.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Somebody from that town needs to do that. I am from 500 miles away, but want to bring this to the attention of everyone because it is setting some precedent. Thanks so much for watching William. And I agree.
@kcovert3
@kcovert3 2 месяца назад
Start by not spending any money in city.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
I really don’t think they care. I told PD, I would not be going to that town then and I was told OK. Thanks so much for watching.
@RobertHiggins-gv5jc
@RobertHiggins-gv5jc 2 месяца назад
Cop's Ride them All over the world.. Ride anyway..
@Patriot7-t4u
@Patriot7-t4u 2 дня назад
People on ebikes piss people off....zipping by you at 15 mph on a walking trail....
@southernebiking
@southernebiking День назад
@@Patriot7-t4u my experience has shown a little bit different. I see regular cyclist, pass people walking much faster. They don’t want to slow down because then they’ve lost momentum. On the bike, you can speed back up. I also see the road cyclist with her head down for aerodynamics quite often, so they’re not looking for in front. And I very rarely ever see them give an audible warning. On the other hand in the areas that I have written, most ebikers will give an audible warning that they are coming by on the left. They slow down because they know they can get going again. I find the vast majority of people on E bikes are older and they’re out for a leisure ride. Not out feeling like they’re practicing for the Tour de France. That has been my experience. Maybe that’s just in my area. I also have to wonder how many people that are walking even recognize the difference between an E bike and a regular bike. I am not talking about the ebikes that look like a little motorcycles. I’m talking about a pedal. Assisted bicycle. I wonder how many people have respectfully come by them on an E bike that looks like a regular bike and the walker does not even know it. Thanks for watching.
@paulstrollo3187
@paulstrollo3187 Месяц назад
let the "elite " snob have their way here and it ill spread!!! this craziness must stop! we are not children to be punished because 1 made a mistake. and even that is questionable...it was an accident and to old folk are WAY OVER REACTING!!!
@southernebiking
@southernebiking Месяц назад
Thank you for watching Paul and you are completely correct. And their overreaction has just passed an ordinance that makes this permanent. I am looking into it right now as my FOIA request has not been respected yet. We are going to stay on top of this, even though I do not live in Florida. But as you say, it will spread like a disease. Again, thanks for watching and make sure you have your voice heard.
@normanmorris1762
@normanmorris1762 2 месяца назад
Go on the road not the trail
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
They banned them from the roads. They are too. Thanks for watching.
@ericwarburton
@ericwarburton 2 месяца назад
Unregistered mopeds.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
Please enlighten me how my pedal assist class one is an unregistered moped.
@ericwarburton
@ericwarburton 2 месяца назад
@@southernebiking Motor + Pedals = Moped.
@My_HandleIs_
@My_HandleIs_ 2 месяца назад
Repubs version of ”small government”… Biggliest government is what they mean!
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
And as long as you keep allowing the government to split us up, left against right Republicans against Democrats, etc. They are the ones winning. This is not about left or right as towns are doing it in blue run states as well. But when you get stuck, in a one track mindset, it keeps you down.
@charliebozzo9948
@charliebozzo9948 2 месяца назад
Land of the free...and lazy! Share the road sucks, but this is horrible. The golf cart community is bias. Stop bikeism!
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
100%. Thanks for watching Charlie.
@LygerTheCLaw
@LygerTheCLaw 2 месяца назад
the real issue is regulation, e-bikes are supposed to be governed to 25mph but these bikes are being bypassed to go much faster. in many cases they are being shipped here without any governors to limit speed. it's simply too easy to make these bikes illegal. what they should be doing is confiscating bikes by anyone who has obviously exceeded the speed of that legal 25mph governor or impose steep fines to those who do.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
And this is why you heard me speaking of, Legal, Ebikes. Class one class two and class three. Thank you for watching
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
@@markstevens4264 and as you watch this video, you will see I am speaking only of class one class two and class three ebikes. I’ve been on record many of times saying anything that is not defined is open to any regulations that they get. My problem is when they are already defined, changing the regulations on them. thanks for watching and being respectful even though you disagree. Enjoy your evening.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
@@markstevens4264 thanks Mark. I have advocated long ago that anything that is not a class one class two or class three be named something different. Maybe eCycle or something along those lines. I stayed at a year ago this was going to happen and here we are. Of course, there will always be someone who can modify something. That I would not be overly concerned with. What does concern me is that manufacturers are producing them that are already well above define classes and selling them as E bikes. I would also suggest that you probably have not even noticed the majority of the bikes that have come by you because they are coming by in a very respectful way, and really don’t even look like an E bike. I know the general public only sees something like the fast suron type and think that all E bikes are like this. That is something else I am working on, is to brainstorm away to bridge the gap between the ebikers and the general public.
@kenmcclow8963
@kenmcclow8963 2 месяца назад
@@markstevens4264there are a lot of kinds of e-bikes. I can’t say young kids are the only ones on go faster types, but a number of us have assist because otherwise we wouldn’t be riding at all. I added a motor to my trike and the assist goes up to 20mph while pedaling but it only delivers 50% power to the throttle. Most of the time I pedal along at 10-12 mph. I know some people who have their trikes registered as ADA mobility devices when Tucson wanted to keep e-bikes off their trails. ADA lawsuits are very expensive for cities full of retired people
@giorgioclavelli1757
@giorgioclavelli1757 2 месяца назад
Firstly said I'm in Australia, here and in all Europe (as far as I know) eBike are restricted, on public roads, in both max speed and max engine wattage (respectively: 250 Kph, 250W). While I found the wattage limit unfair for big people like me (125Kg), I believe the limit on speed being fair. And here I believe police enforces these limits. If you need to go faster you should get a plate and an insurance like all other vehicles that go over that limit. I personally saw a stupid guy going very fast on the sidewalk such that an accident was just waiting to happen. That is clearly a dangerous behavior that need to be addressed, possibly before tragedies happens. BTW, I'm waiting for your new review on your URUS... 😁
@michaelhoffman8763
@michaelhoffman8763 Месяц назад
Contact Gov. DeSantis' office. He is an actual good guy!
@southernebiking
@southernebiking Месяц назад
Thank you for watching michael. We are not from this town. We are not even from florida. I have a lot of respect for governor DeSantis. So my major concern is not necessarily this town. But what is happening here and what It represents to towns all over this country.
@georgechase3275
@georgechase3275 Месяц назад
He may be a good guy but he is also moron
@jefferyschic
@jefferyschic Месяц назад
DeSantis lost my respect immediately after I voted for him the first time.
@darylhill9400
@darylhill9400 14 дней назад
Lol
@darylhill9400
@darylhill9400 14 дней назад
The good guy that bands books
@TheJagjr4450
@TheJagjr4450 2 месяца назад
Ebikes should be outlawed where pedal bikes are allowed... too much trouble with the speeding around on ebikes.
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
I guess, according to this philosophy, your car should be outlawed in school zones. Probably should be outlawed on residential streets as well. See I have been passed more by cyclist then I have by E bikes. I have to wonder how many E bikes you have been around that you did not even realize they were E bikes because they were not speeding. This is what gets a bad reputation on the E bikes. But it is undeserved, just the way it would be undeserved to tell you your car is not allowed in a 20 mile an hour zone.
@TheJagjr4450
@TheJagjr4450 2 месяца назад
@@southernebiking then you should be able to use any motorized two wheeler... gasoline or otherwise., motorized is motorized, that is all I am saying, pedal powered is pedal powered, motorized is motorized, there seems to be an exception for "e" bikes
@southernebiking
@southernebiking 2 месяца назад
@@TheJagjr4450 a class one Ebike is nothing but assistance to peddling. No different than gears. So should anything besides a single speed one to one gear ratio be banned? According to your philosophy, that would be the case. You see we can all make an argument. How about if we start to enforce speed on bike areas. I’ve been passed many more times by road cyclist than I ever have ebikes. I will grant you that the E bike industry is slapping the name Ebike on anything with a electric motor. This can be addressed. But let’s not throw a blanket over all of them.
@Herbsswamp
@Herbsswamp Месяц назад
Www its here allready¿? Too late!!!
@wg99er
@wg99er Месяц назад
Unfortunately, they cannot ban ebikes for disabled people. Electric bikes can be considered an "other power-driven mobility device" under ADA law, and the ADA itself explicitly states disabled individuals can choose , within reason, whatever mobility device they want. The state or county government is prohibited from preventing disabled people from using ebikes as a mobility device. " (a) Denial of participation. A public accommodation shall not subject an individual or class of individuals on the basis of a disability or disabilities of such individual or class, directly, or through contractual, licensing, or other arrangements, to a denial of the opportunity of the individual or class to participate in or benefit from the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of a place of public accommodation."
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