Two people from eastern North Carolina who jumped into the world of e-bikes during the pandemic in search of adventure and a new journey, that's us. My wife decided to purchase the first e-bike in our household and soon convinced me to join the experience. Growing up avidly racing motorcycles in Pennsylvania, e-bikes have revived that same spirit of my younger years. Now, we are searching out new bike trails and adventures in the Southern states, some local some not and want to share them with you! we'll share things from our perspective that we hope will keep us all learning. Please join us and subscribe and keeping pedaling.
WTF is seriously wrong with this society and our politicians today?? You can't and shouldn't try to ban and regulate every last thing that poses the smallest potential threat! VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!
There I a big difference between a bike petal assist that tops at less than 20 mpg and some I have seen that go way to fast. As a senior I use my bike locally and do not need high speed just a little assist getting around. 0
@@BerniceKaczneski thank you for watching. There is a difference. And this village is not addressing that at all. These bikes that travel over 20 mph with a throttle are not considered ebikes under the legal definition. So they could have just addressed those. I did have a conversation with the vice mayor and that video will be going out talking about it on Thursday. Again, thank you for watching. I agree that somethings should be done, but what they have done is not correct answer
If ebike users rode the way you do in your video, all would be ok. I like cycling, and have no issue with ebikes, but something has to be done to keep people who misuse them from running walkers, moms/dads with strollers, and other human powered users from the bike paths. It is happening here in my town and I hate to see it.
@MarkManner Thank you, Mark. And thank you for watching. I believe most of the ebike users do ride like we do. This has been our experience throughout the mid-Atlantic states. Granted, we typically stick to the bike trails and not the streets and sidewalks. But I also think the majority of people have ebikes going past them from either direction riding like we are. However, I think most people do not recognize that they just scene an ebike. I think the only time most people recognize an ebike is when it is being ridden like a motorcycle. That I will say is a big problem in the industry. The public The controversy on ebikes. And because they do not recognize the respectful, ones think this is all e bikes. Not sure if I articulated this real well. I am running this response through my phone instead of my computer.Which is more typical for me. Again thank you for watching.
Devil's Adovocate, e-bike and non-ebike rider here. The San Diego ban seems to be a partial ban. It appears that areas of high pedestrian traffic have banned e-bikes which makes sense. With e-bikes now reaching automobile speeds, mixing e-bikes and pedestrians, including the young children and the elderly, just doesn't seem safe. Not everyone on an e-bike is a safe, defensive rider. Not every pedestrian is observant wathcing out for bikes. Do we need laws to enforce this? Well, this is one of the most litiginous countries in the world. So, yes. When a 70-year old retiree mows down someone's 3-year old baby on a paved path, someone is gonna get sued. I don't think the 3-year old will get sued. Either Mr. Retiree or the city. Period. JMO.
@@mckenziemd I appreciate you watching, and I appreciate that you have chimed in with a thought-provoking comment. My response would be, you have to look at what is defined as an E bike in the law, versus what people are calling a motorized bicycle that they sell. The vast majority of problems are caused by people that are riding Ebikes, that are not falling under the legal definition of an electric assisted bicycle. So they need to start there. A class one E bike is only capable of 20 mph and that is only when you’re peddling it. This is the typical speed that a regular bicycle rides at. I would not have any problem if they would have regulations on bikes that do not fall under the legal definition of an E bike in their particular state. That would be the place to start, not banning all E bikes. Just as a guess, I am pretty sure over 60% of what the industry is selling as a ebike does not fall under the legal classification in most states. Start there. Again, thanks for watching.
cause people destroy everything, they misuse and take advantage at every turn making everyone pay the price for their actions. they should be treated the same as scooters. problem comes from bicycles always being a do whatever ya want thing with no laws applied or enforced. now with motors added
@@standingbear998 thank you for watching. You also have to understand what the legal definition of an E bike is. And the problem they are having in this town has nothing to do with a legally defined ebike. My stand is, take care of the people that are causing the problem not the product. They have absolutely missed the mark on the product anyway. I will be putting out a video on Thursday morning. That further explains this. Again, thanks for watching.
@rcc1887 Thank you for watching. My first reaction is the same as yours, but surprisingly this is a republican representative helping to push this. But let me also say there is a right and a left. The problem is that it is the right cheek and the left cheek of the same tail. Don't let titles separate people.
Just imagine if lazy ass law enforcement got off of their ass and actually started doing their job how there wouldn't even need to be any discussion of banning something that they could easily control. I say that because in my town the speed limit is 25 in the entire city, unless it is posted, and then it would only be 35 except for the Highway that runs through it. The point is if the police start handing out 20 over tickets to e-bikes that are clearly going 40,50 mph in 25 mile an hour zones and even possibly impounding those bikes, people will get the message that they have to abide by the same rules of the road as any other vehicle.
@@user-eh5cr4or6k thank you for watching. And I do agree with you in that they should be looking at speed limit not type of bikes. After all Lamborghini is allowed in a school zone. That being said, when they are talking about or when you are talking about ebikes. we have to decide if we are talking about the legal definition of one or what the industry defines as one. Because there is no state that I am aware of that an E bike is capable of 40 mph. 28 is the fastest that any legally defined ebike is capable of going. And that would be with pedal assist only and there would not be a throttle on the bike at all. That would be my understanding of the majority of the states that I have looked into. Again, thank you for watching.
I just bought an "electric assist"full-suspenion mtb. It's powerful no doubt. Most people don't understand how fast these go. Especially people who are regular cyclists. Mine is the mid motor that stops when you don't pedal. It only assists you when you pedal. These bike shops dont give you any advice on how to rude these things! They also don't tell you how much maintenance is required for these .. machines basically. I am 60 and the kid in me comes out when i ride my emtb. What a blast.
@JohnTate-h1s That is the komoot app. We highly recommend it. We'll probably be doing a video soon on how we build our routes in different areas all over the east coast. Thanks for watching
Europe UK Australia NZ and many more countries have all proven that regulated helmets when riding bicycles e-bikes motorbikes e-scooters kick scooters and working on building sites to save lives. World science is out there. Protect the head as this is the biggest cause of death when involved in an accident. I am surprised the US is so far behind the rest of the more advanced countries around the world regarding riding wearing helmets. I don't know how many countries have laws for the compulsory wearing of helmets for the above but I know there is a lot and it is increasing. Stopping e-bike riding for 60 days will solve nothing. Wearing helmets may not stop the deaths and brain injuries completely but it will reduce them that has been proven.
Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of! I thought they wanted everything to go electric. People have been getting killed by automobiles ever since they were introduced but they have never been banned!😮
I Love Your Narrative! The reason EBikes are being banned is because the industry took control before the public could be aware of the safety that should be required. 20 mph is a darned fast bike when controlled by an advanced cyclist....but you think it's ok to put newbies on it? The safety of recharging the batteries is questionable. If you injure somebody with a bike powered beyond your physical limitations, you should have insurance for that. I Love Your Posting...because it makes the need for legislation and regulations so obvious.
@eugeneschulz110 I love your comment. I love your comment because it shows just how many little followers there are out there that want to be told what is safe and effective and line right up for it. Yup.I love your comment because after all, we can't all be leaders and think for ourselves. We need lots of little followers too. So keep up the good work friend
A 20+ mile Greenway is a destination trail. If you have the opportunity you express that if and when it becomes reality that because of the length it could and most likely would bring people and business to the area to ride a trail that length.
@MadelineValdes-d4e Thank you for watching madeline on our newer videos.We don't use any music. I think about when we did that, We have come along. Lol Enjoy your fourth of july.
There was intense opposition to the Virginia Creeper Trail in the beginning. Thank God the naysayers eventually relented. That said, distrust of the government types is understandable. They have worked hard to earn that distrust! 😂
@joyfultrails Thanks for watching scott. Distrust of big brother. Surely you jest. You make it sound like they just do what they want and don't care if it's legal or not. Or maybe that they push on the public procedures, claiming that they're safe and effective when maybe they're really not. Or maybe berry the misdeeds that they do. Of course, we know that could not happen
@User39. I would say first thing is. The city needs to understand the difference between the different style or class of ebike. There are plenty of them that are no different than A. Regular bicycle and just give you a little bit of a pedal assist. If that is the case that they should be allowed anywhere, a regular bicycle is allowed. I would probably find some agreement with you when we are talking about some of these ebikes, that looked like the old fashioned mini bikes that have no practical reason to pedal them.And people just fly around on a throttle. I've advocated long ago to put those in a separate class.
In our little town they are becoming a problem....they go on trails made for walking and they zip by people way to fast....town council is having a meeting about them soon....many complaints...
It is nice to see cities and towns and governments getting involved, out door activities have been on a huge increase in the past decade, but same kind of struggles here in Canada
@JohnBfree29 If you can haul your bike, you have a great greenway Not far called the high point greenway. There's also salem lake greenway in winston salem. Of course, when you get into the Durham and raleigh area, there are over two hundred miles of multi use paths. Thanks for watching.
My county, Miami Dade, has no interest in promoting biking, recently they widened one of the major streets in my area, and they did not put any bike lanes there, even though it leads to a nice bike trail the state built a few years ago. But there is no safe way to get to it.
Thankfully, my state of MA just started government funding for a public e-bike program. They also recently updated the city of Boston and many surrounding suburbs with more bike infrastructure and making it less auto-centric. You also get tax breaks for bicycle commuting now and $500-$750 rebate program if you qualify. We have the same Class 1 & 2 ebike laws as well as designation for 'other' class ebikes, no class 3 yet. Not all the police know the ins and outs of the classifications but they have been pretty understanding about it. No chatter about ebikes except the ones that are basically electric motorcycles which are illegal to begin with. After that you enter into moped and motorcycle territory which we already have regulation for. The one thing I like the most about our ebike laws is that you have to be 16 yo and have a valid class D drivers license at the least. That way you know the rules of the road before even getting on one. However, unlike dirt bikes and four-wheelers, private property does not protect you from using them. Pretty much anything that MA requires a license for, private property will not protect you from skirting regulation, but I digress.
If you don't have to pedal to get motor assist, it's a motorcycle or motor scooter and should be licensed and treated as such. Class 1 ebikes are bicycles, anything else is not.
@@CaptConfusion71 I really never use a throttle so I would not have much of a problem with us. I do understand that some people need that to get going because of health issues but they can take over peddling. I think a better solution would be that the throttle cuts out after a period of time four seconds, something along those lines. But according to your statement. Class three ebikes would be considered a bicycle as well. Class three is legally defined in every state that I am aware of does not have a throttle. If you do a Google search you’ll find plenty of bike manufacturers that say you can throttle up to 20 and pedal up to 28. But that’s not in line with any laws that I am familiar with. Thank you for watching.
@@WandersonRC3 thank you for watching. It’s not just the out of shape. I’ve had some pretty significant injuries throughout my life and there’s no way I would be able to go out and continue moving on a regular bike.
If you can't pedal 20 mph, you shouldn't be riding at 20 mph. And only class 1 should be allowed on bike trails or paths, their speed should be limited to 15 mph or less. Too many people riding at ridiculous speeds and they just bought their bike yesterday.
@@carlkma2037 first off, thank you for watching. I hear this all the time. I’m just not seeing it in the thousands of miles that I have a ebike all over the East Coast. The vast majority of people that I have seen in our travels have been people like myself and my wife. we are older and cannot because of physical problems pedal a regular bike. We do not use a throttle at all. And we travel in the 10 to 15 mile an hour range. The vast majority of bikes passing us is road cyclist. I do not ride an E bike because I’m lazy. I still work my business 60 hours per week, and I am on my feet every one of them hours. I believe there are many more in a very similar situation to myself. The vast majority of my life, with the exception of the past decade, I made a living as a working cowboy. That does have consequences of arthritis, etc. This town has made this ban. Permanent for all E bikes, even on public street. And I’m not arguing for the wild west to take over. I am arguing for some common sense. That seems to be pretty uncommon lately. And yes I can paddle just about any bike to 30 mph. I just could not do that for a long period because of my back and knees.
@@southernebiking Keep riding your throttled e-bike, your video, at least the one that I watched, supports my statement. You can pedal 30 mph with a bad back and bad knees? Of course you can, and then you wake up.
