Four Hours In My Lai (3 of 7)

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Americans tell of USA infantry massacre and rape of allied civilian women and children in South Vietnam. US Army photos and film. NOTE NOT in hostile territory, NOT an enemy village in South Vietnam, no-one properly punished. (you get more for DUI or pot than Calley got, he was out in under four months, no one else punished at all.)
Most important was that SOME Americans knew better and tried to stop it AT THE TIME.
The black guy from Detroit, the helicopter crew , Pvt Berhart and others, goes to show who has morals and who doesn't. The dude from Detriot couldn't understand how how they didn't know morals form somewhere, and the helicopter pilot and others who likened them to Nazi's and didn't go to Vietnam to be the Nazi's
You sullied your allies with this, New Zealand and Australia are still dirty from this, it doesn't wash off. Our heroes have this stain on them even if THEY did no wrong.
Yet still in Iraq CNN shows the USA continuing with NAZI tactics, using civilians (children even) under duress to check booby traps and to knock on doors of suspected ambushes, against Geneva. Using civilian contractors with No accountability. WHEN ARE THE USA GOING TO LEARN.? Stop being the Nazi's, or at least censor your press and TV stop youtube etc. Hide what you do , the Nazi's at least knew that one, be decent enough to have shame.
Same with the BAIT for SNIPER programme, if bullets were left near a school in your town would someone other than a terrorist pick them up, would it be okay for a Army sniper to kill them as a terrorist then.? I can think of LOTS of reasons someone other than a terrorist would remove pyrotechnics, left lying around by the US army as bait.
Some people just are not thinking it's the old oxymoron "military intellegence".
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@DLPSTILLSTANDING 15 лет назад

I was very affected watching the MY LAI films and reading your very true and powerful comments. I believe you should distribute this on a disc. Those victims cry out from their graves to let the world know what was done to them. Governments have gone to great lengths for over 40 years to keep these films from being viewed but such hauntingly painful images and words must be known. With highest respect, David in NYC

@Roscoe.P.Coldchain 2 года назад

God bless you David

@kamkuytmit 14 лет назад

the woman in the clip said: "she hated the American soldiers forever" not just simply: "my heart was broken in to pieces"!!!!

@jasonrobarbs279 9 лет назад

Personally, I cannot even listen to the dialog in this video. The topic is so harsh that I do not wish to hear it. I can only view the photos, barely, and read the accounts. I think Americans today should take notice that up to 500 Vietnamese civilians were murdered including babies and their mothers. For all that, only one man was held accountable... for a lousy 3 years of "house arrest"... The other killers were sent back into American society .... with their army ribbons and medals. Thats how the US Government operates... then and now. For those of you who delude yourselves into thinking My Lai was a "part of war," I can only say that killing literal 1 year old or 2 year old babies by shooting them is NOT "part of war."

@EtoileSucree 12 лет назад

I agree with you. These people won't have the same thoughts if their loved ones are killed by soliders. But of course, when it happens to others " oh well, that's war, deal with it".

@Seasider70 11 лет назад

I don't think respect is a word to start using after such atrocities.

@chepickle 16 лет назад

It's the atrocity that sums up all the atrocities, sort of like how people say Auschwitz (the work camp) when they mean Birkenau (the death facility, English speakers anyway) . It's what has stuck in the popular imagination. It also sort of allows the USA to believe that Pinkville/ May Lai was the only atrocity, that Agent Orange Napalm the B52's and other May Lai's didn't happen.

@FondleMyNuts 16 лет назад

@1:23, the subtitles read "my heart is cut into pieces". what she actually said was "i hate the u.s. enemy to the core of my being". that was the context of the statement. if the u.s. doesn't learn from these experiences, there will be many more people in the world who feel as this old lady does.

@MinisterAilingTongue 12 лет назад

Psycho. Most people would feel remorse or physically ill after shooting a mother and her infant. This guy's "training" had nothing to do with it.

@THEMASKFHC 13 лет назад

he is so honest he should be brought to the publics attention

@cyberrider99 15 лет назад

at least respect to the black guy for telling the real truth even about himself without trying to find an excuse .. now u can see it allover his face and body that he regreds every single violent action he did !!!

@yvetteyzonofficial 15 лет назад

I felt so bad and unhappy when i met TRUONG THI LE, last June of this year in MY LAI, VIETNAM now MY SON. Everything she said here are the same things she shared to us for an interview. I will post the video very soon, as we finished our project. We are doing the real and true story of what really happende to them. I am greatful to met the one of the survivor and some others that i just listen and see them while interviewed by other foreigner visiting the place...

@emilyhannahlovesyou 13 лет назад

Does anyone know the date of when this documentary was first aired?

@invincibleironman3 15 лет назад

A film called Pinkville was in the works, but it suddenly was called off. Oliver Stone was going to do it after the film, "W." Bruce Willis was cast and everything and it still has a 2009 release date.

@Stormcommando 12 лет назад

so many people on the outside don't understand how it is, or what it's like to be in those situations..the psychological conditioning, the psychological stress. Thank you for making your post because you point at this concept.

@nepurangi 10 лет назад

Einsatzgruppen

@mahound9 15 лет назад

I agree.

@Hokit 12 лет назад

This is what war does - it kills people and once that's done you can't get them back. The poor woman who lost her mother and her children...her loved ones, just gone, never to be reunited with her. I hope anyone who watches footages like this realise that war is never justified. There'll always be victims, regardless of which side they're from.

@FondleMyNuts 16 лет назад

of course there is no need for restraint against the enemy. but when civilians are murdered in cold blood, that's just pure evil. what kind of man kills defenceless grannies, women, children and babies ffs?! especially after the villagers brought them drinking water the last time they visited the village. despicable! when you do not understand the country and culture, it's best not to be part of the internal conflict. unless you learn and try to understand them.

@jackie287 16 лет назад

I can't imagine living with myself after that. Makes you wonder if the real victims are the ones who have to come home and live with themselves. War is a horrible thing! RIP

@Acewalled 14 лет назад

Patriotism can sure as hell corrupt the mind.

@backstreetnomad4986 15 лет назад

There are orders which you can/should carry out and there are orders which you know if carried out would bring shame to the Crown or infamy to your unit. That's why we have military court, to provide legal justification to anyone refusing an unjust order as well as to prosecute genuine disobedience. If your superior asked you to kill children, would you do that? How are you going to face your family and kids if you do that? It's really up to you! It takes d clarity of mind and enormous courage.

@Azmi1718 14 лет назад

I dont see the pint to this..... why should war exist when it brings so much pain? does it makes people happy? to get power by killing? when they sleep in luxurious houses builded in taken territory, doesn't it bothers them? don't they think "ah, i'll sleep where my men killed "x" number of people" too sad, such a sad world...we are so pityful

@backstreetnomad4986 15 лет назад

that's why soldiers have to undergo trainings, that's also where military intelligence comes in. War fighting has never meant to be easy, it takes all the muscle strength and brain power to do battles, and even that, victory is not guaranteed, but if we have incidents like My Lai, then we can forget about ever winning a war in modern history.

@Bazanadu 10 лет назад

Its interesting how he describes what happened. Like a frenzy, an uncontrollable blood lust. If you look through history you will find similar incidents.

@superbert35 14 лет назад

i bet there are many men from many countrys with stories like this to tell.

@thatsit07 12 лет назад

Respect to this guy that admit what he done.... i bet you he wasnt the worse one too.

@chepickle 16 лет назад

Fair enough.

@bollockowithalob 13 лет назад

@TheEnlightendOne17 Well said.

@backstreetnomad4986 15 лет назад

this is a very classical American nightmare, more than 30 years after they lost so many lives and caused so much hell in Vietnam, they still think they can fight guerrilla warfare with conventional means. OF COURSE, YOU CAN NOT SEE THE GUERRILLAS, if you can see them, then that would be the day, they roll into in their cupboard IFVs and human-powered planes. The answer: you fight guerrillas like a guerrilla, and if civilians start to die bcause of your wrong strategy and tactic, your enemy wins.

@tommydangerx 15 лет назад

It is the right, responsibility and duty of every American soldier to disobey and report to higher authority any order he or she KNOWS to be unlawful. No matter what the circumstances. If a soldier is ordered to shoot unarmed prisoners, non-combatants, children, this would be UNLAWFUL. A soldier will be held directly responsible if he/she carries out unlawful orders. Reference: Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) Department of Defense Regulations DOD Directive 5100.77 DOD LAW OF WAR PROGRAM.

@pilgrim561 8 лет назад

it's disgusting to have people try to justify this horrible event,

@MinisterAilingTongue 12 лет назад

Support the troops by making peace. Why are we held hostage to waging war with the line "support the troops and maintain funding for our wars"?

@MinisterAilingTongue 12 лет назад

That murderer claims to have killed between 20 and 25 percent of all the victims. That's interesting. It shows that a subset of the company was responsible for the vast majority of the murders.

@Hokit 12 лет назад

What's interesting is the idea that the soldiers weren't themselves when they did the killings. It seems unbelievable because in most societies there are rarely good enough reasons for excusing violence, let alone murder. But this could be a sign of what the consequences are from the training soldiers get. When complex minds are reduced to seeing others as just "targets", then it's not a far stretch to see how they become machines devoid of ethics and morality.

@ivanlunaelizarraras 12 лет назад

things like that are happening in iraq, and a couple of years later we're going to be watchgin documentaryies lkie this one but about the iraq war.

@Stormcommando 12 лет назад

have you ever been in combat? Ever been in these psychological situations? Soldiers are trained day and night before they go out. Trained so that they will keep going and not sit there and freeze. In 95% of the cases this keeps them alive, in this case it was a moral disaster...but the man himself is not a psycho. The man had PTSD to an extreme and eventually killed himself.

@chepickle 16 лет назад

Germans and Japanese were fighting the wars in a way that was concerned about the murders were brutalizing the troops, that is why the Germans at least set up the Murder Camps, to spare the ordinary troops.

@jaimesandoval1988 15 лет назад

I feel horrible knowing that they lost their families.

@Paladin1441 15 лет назад

Okay lets hypothisize for a moment shall we. Imagine if you were a 19-20 something year old grunt having to go out and hump out in that jungle every day not knowing whether or not you're going to be in contact with the enemy or facing booby traps or punji pits. seeing your friends dying around you and you are helpless to do anything about it..How are you going to feel? The leadership of C 1/20 was irresponsible to the point of negligence...

@Ranieri69er 15 лет назад

every1 remember one thing, yes yes u wouldnt kill a woman or a child, but when in a battlefield everything is diffrent, thers alot of preassure on u and things really get scary, especially when u cant comunicate with the person, anything can happen

@joegamble328 5 лет назад

We are a FLAWED SPECIES

@dinomader2211 Год назад

These people deserve to live with the nightmares of what they did!!! And they deserve to live with the Ghost's of their victims!! I don't feel sorry for any of them!!!

@quysweat 16 лет назад

Karma... time will do justice!

@fsxlover 15 лет назад

lancerPI, i totally agree with you the bush administration did not authorize that much media into iraq. we only heard about haditha and abu ghraib.

@Itsumthinlikeu 14 лет назад

Damn life can be crazy. The actions we take today can effect the rest of our life...... I don't understand why murder is frowned upon in only some instances.

@KOGR11 11 лет назад

People who dont have the same capability as the aggressor is justified to fight a war without uniforms.

@backstreetnomad4986 15 лет назад

Of course, if the kids are armed, then they are combatants, but from the My Lai video, with the cameraman taking photos, it's clear that the kids ain't armed, if your superior ask you to kill the kids, women (some're nursing moms)and elderly persons, what would you do?

@KneeStrikes 12 лет назад

Think about how you would feel having no remorse when youre in a war only based on kill ratios and body counts.One would go insane if you think about it too much. And PFC Simpson did feel remorse, he committed suicide eight years later after this documentary was filmed.

@chepickle 16 лет назад

Only the hope that there are more guys like the ones who knew it was wrong. The ones who know Geneva is the MINIMUM. No just an option for in front of the camera, and then forget that CNN is there.

@TheEnlightendOne17 13 лет назад

Im very disappointed as a American. We always preach about rights and wrong. Like what the Nazi's did, but in the end we did the exact same thing. Events like this happened in the past. We always say that we learned from their mistakes but in the end we do it. Just looking at those pic I feel very sad. All those innocent people didn't even get a chance to live. All the children never get to live a full life.Think about who they could be today. I feel sad that they took all that away from them.

@Tinoko_loco-babe 6 лет назад

This is downright disgraceful. All throughout my high school years, not once did I hear of this tragedy before. Yet, we are taught of the lies of patriotism and what it means to have freedom literally at the cost of our lives. How could I call myself American after discovering inexplicable acts these "Americans" has done to innocent lives. I hate America, but I don't hate the people in it. We are lied to everyday, and we are sitting here blindly choosing what our corrupt government is doing. America is going to pay for what its done. America can burn for all I care, burn the lies! Burn the government! I'll sure be laughing all the way to its grave.

@RR-gc9xu 5 лет назад

What makes you think corruption, government and overall lies are only embedded in America? Man and woman are not perfect , therefore, a country created by man and woman will not be perfect. America has given you more than you know and when I hear young indoctrinated kids speak this way, it just make me shake my head in disgust. True, like all countries, present and past, America has its fair share of horrific moments and events. But on the same token, America has contributed aid, food, wealth and protection to other countries in need and over a vast time span at that. These are countries either for America or not, but America still continues to do far more than any other country in the modern world to this day. That 's the problem with the younger GEN, only one sided and completed sheltered. No idea what it's like to be in difficult situations; to be forced to do something you never thought you would be capable of doing. You hear a story of My Lai and, to include additional American atrocities, come up with reasons of how you can justify your programmed hate for America. That makes you a degenerate. Just be aware. Because this younger generation is of this hate your white skin and America ideology, I guarantee this great nation will fall under their watch. But I'm sure you're pleased by that remark. There is a big world out there, full of evil and corruption. People in general are born with the ability to hate, kill, steal and lie, no matter if they believe that or not. Doesn't change the FACT, those traits are apart of our human nature and DNA, and there is nothing anyone can do or say to change that.

@chepickle 16 лет назад

Here's hoping

@emjaiz 13 лет назад

at 7:02 I think the photographer was lying, he probably knew exactly what they were going to do, but he had no guts to tell them to stop. He just took photos.

@pisswizard 15 лет назад

You were making a point that other countries are more adept at covering up their war crimes, to which I said....bullshit.

@dale3858 16 лет назад

My god look at what we do as humans to each other. we are finished as a people. we have learned nothing. Men cannot deal with war and killing. Very sad... People should listen to these poor men carefully, and stop this war shit.

@lowcash000 16 лет назад

yeh ive read the military half and a book from cally himself,called:i liked to be in vietnam,this was a terible operation,but there was a lots of ops like this,called golden flece,norfolk victory,dragon vally,and a lots more,there are all happend the same,i dont know why my lai gets so populare?

@upplsuckimcool16 11 лет назад

His training doesn't tellhim to scalp and cut off hands etc... iut tells them to hate and to murder, and to be sickened by a certain race of people, and then given authority over those people and told to kill them, this is what humans will do!

@deathshadow69 14 лет назад

I wasn't saying, or ever said, that we don't do those things, I said we weren't the only ones, that humans have always been brutal and sick. Out gov't has gone out of its way to fuck with everyone, so yes of course we commit vast amounts of these atrocoties. My point was not to shake any blame off of the US or downplay it. I was just making a comment on humanity in general

@FondleMyNuts 16 лет назад

but when you represent the forces of good and all that is righteous... if you can't uphold what you believe in, then you've already lost. which is what happened.

@Kinglorrecom 13 лет назад

@TeamRedz Better for them to live and be tormented and faced with the actions they have done for the rest of there lives. I bet everyone of those men hasn't slept a night since it happened. Good on them.

@RealKisht 11 лет назад

sounds like hell.

@tommydangerous27 12 лет назад

@Annamissyk4 soooooooooooo glad

@backstreetnomad4986 15 лет назад

Remember this! and don't do it to others!

@chepickle 16 лет назад

The USA was a part in a chain of events that lead to those re-education camps. Deposing the elected leader of the Republic took away legitimacy for intervention. It's hardly my job to explain the inexplicable, I can't understand how the USA troops behaved like animals when WE get trained to behave like humans and taught Geneva here in the RNZAF, why is the US army so useless at training.?

@chepickle 16 лет назад

I think the Hague should get involved with that and Gitmo and Abu Ghraib and USA going to Iraq in the first place, and investigate 911 and Cheney's Haliburton making deals with an interim government etc etc etc. But the USA can just veto any move as a permanent member of the security council.

@chepickle 16 лет назад

Those were average USA citizens, with average incomes taken at random. It was the "poor black" Detroit guy that stood up on the ground. And the same was happening in another village a few miles away by another group, and this wasn't the only incident by this group or others. So what was your logic again.?

@emceezvn 16 лет назад

these people who did this gonna pay in their current lives and the next next incarnations.

@FondleMyNuts 16 лет назад

there could have been vc sympathisers and u.s. supporters living in the same village. it was not uncommon for one family to be vc while relatives were in the arvn. what the us forces did that day, was made EVERYONE in that area vc. it also swung sentiment in the us against the war. not a good approach for fighting a war, unless you want to lose..

@kaitley1 12 лет назад

@IAmTheOnlyMrDaryl the killing, l can maybe understand under extreme stress, a "just make them all go away" mentality. But rape, torture, slitting children's throats, beating the wounded, mutilating people - l don't get that at all - and to be honest l hope l never, ever do

@luvpump1 11 лет назад

Awful what that guy is admitting too, But brave to do so on film imo,he didnt have too, he is obviously still distressed about it ..

@Paladin1441 15 лет назад

And lets not forget the heroic people's army of vietnam. or the Viet cong. they did a hell of a lot worse to thier own people. especally after the fall of South Vietnam. Charlie Company was as a much a victim of that war as were the people of my lai 4.

@longhorn7 11 лет назад

You are not the ones is a combat zone, wondering whether you're going to live to see tomorrow day after day until they turn into months on end. There's really no way to justify the manner of killings, along with the killings themselves, but just know that sitting there pretending to know better than the men who were there. Maybe when you've seen YOUR brothers legs be blown off or booby trapped to death and not want to murder whoever you think was involved in it, you can cast the first stone.

@PEDROCLASSIC 13 лет назад

Maybe if a different unit were there perhaps the 101st airborne, 4th infantry div, the 25th, or the Marines perhaps the situation would have been different i dont know. Where theres truth theres justice and justice there's Judgment

@chepickle 16 лет назад

Ad hominem attack wont be allowed in this forum between posters

@kamkuytmit 14 лет назад

@princeofwinter that's what I think though, but this stupid animal does not understand, Perhaps we should not discuss this matter with this animal because it's really no use to get an animal to understand human being's feeling. :( I'm so sad because of the very existence of this animal on our beautiful planet :(

@PEDROCLASSIC 13 лет назад

this makes me sad but more angry. Sad. these poor people did not deserved to fukin die the way they did. who really knows? perhaps their cousins, uncles, brothers were really VC sympathizers. maybe intel was wrong. if u think about Charlie Company. theyve lost a lot of their buddies to sniper, bobby traps, mostly with nobody, no VC to shoot back at and so that made them really wanna kill anyone that gets in their way. theres no glory in war . . .theres only death.

@RPenta 13 лет назад

@mustwinder Pol Pot was busy bombing Lebanon and Pontius Pilate was busy nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

@badmancal2vmaxman 11 лет назад

totally

@chepickle 16 лет назад

Sounds like the perfect justification for 911, are you trying to make the Al Queada point for them. (If they were the people who did it.)

@chepickle 16 лет назад

I saw them doing these things on TVNZ, how are the troops in Iraq for 911. Iraq didn't have any part in 911, Bin Ladin was related to the Saudi Royal family, He was in Afghanistan, FBI says the men were Saudi Arabians, Bush sold $20 Billion in arms to the Islamic Saudi Royal Dictator, Related to Osama Bin Ladin, Business partner for years to the Bush's from before they were elected. But go the Kiwis in Afghanistan commiserations to our Minister of Defenses Family for the loss of his nephew.

@him3zz 13 лет назад

7:37 Can someone help me make that out..?

@b2flyer1 14 лет назад

What we did to the people of Vietnam was WRONG,and yes,there were many war crimes committed there by the US.But,this is nothing compared to what we are doing in Iraq today.What goes around,Comes Around...ONE will REAP,what one has sown...

@ManInTheBigHat 7 лет назад

I love the self-righteousness of the angry commenters. You don't know it, but you're the same as these guys. The more you insist you're not, the more you are.

@dab0331 6 лет назад

ManInTheBigHat whatever you say you piece of shit

@KneeStrikes 12 лет назад

You misheard or something, he said he killed 20-25 people.

@IAmTheOnlyMrDaryl 13 лет назад

@bruceCle blame the politicians and leaders of the platoon

@baselkicker 15 лет назад

i hate all of them...but its logical that i hate them here more than the others who didnt speak, because i can see the murders face here in this docu! its just a human reaction.

@Thepatoexperience2 12 лет назад

God knows what wasnt reported..

@CluntWestrock 13 лет назад

Who ever said The US is perfect? Tell me that.

@pattinder 13 лет назад

Guerilla warfare or no guerilla warfare, am idiot could clearly see who is dangerous and who not, a woman holding a baby and another pleading and trying to protect her family shot down, how could that ever be justifiable, it was clearly pre meditated because the photographer was allowed to take a photo of them alive, and when I say premeditated I mean post actually going into my lai

@NunsAteGod 11 лет назад

haha OK, well where I am from that is how we say it, interesting to know it is a different expression elsewhere.

@RealKisht 16 лет назад

why did this happen.

@baselkicker 16 лет назад

yeah! you cant make an excuse of what they did....i hate them

@chepickle 16 лет назад

Yes it has been proven, go in and wipe out every body, there will only be Viet Cong in the village (paraphrase). Don't see how a soldier or even a human can mistake an infant for a Viet Cong combatant though, do you.? Can't reopen double jeopardy, Calley was found guilty and pardoned.

@RPenta 13 лет назад

@mustwinder No; It was Saddam Hussein's older brother.

@boxtears 12 лет назад

@Ch4M4L That a pretty shitty excuse. Yeah blame everything on the war, not the individuals who actually did the crime. The only guy who got charged received a presidential pardon and is still alive today. I bet you think that's fair too.

@IAmTheOnlyMrDaryl 13 лет назад

@bruceCle you cant say anything till youve been through the same thing. It wasn'treally him that decided, it was the robot minded side of him that was programmed to just kill by his training program. You think he's proud of what happened? I dont think so. He wouldnt be crying if he was proud. Get real

@bongcon 15 лет назад

I alwyas cr when u see this video. My people were killed without acceptbale reasons

@sebastian577 16 лет назад

I was responding to Seasroot, not to you

@THEMASKFHC 13 лет назад

@jimmz34 mercy killing so he would not suffer anymore

@chepickle 16 лет назад

No I don't know why people from a "Christian" nation would go overseas and murder people without thought unless it was for religion. Let alone why a bitter and oppressed and tortured people who had suffered atrocities from the Air Sea and Land like My Lai might take revenge when the USA had run away defeated.