Friday Night Fight: The Court Battle of Logan Paul v. Coffeezilla 

Discovery will give Coffeezilla content for eternity

"He's being a w⚓️" As a Brit, I appreciate this analysis. Beautiful.

My favorite RU-vid lawyer is talking about my favorite scam exposer RU-vidr, this was a crossover that I was not expecting and while I am upset and irritated over this ‘lawsuit’, I really appreciate your coverage!!

I genuinely don't understand how Logan Paul can accuse anyone other than himself of damaging his reputation.

If Logan Paul had the facts on his side, he could've been using them. Instead, he uses a lawsuit.

logan paul has no "athlete" or "entrepreneur" licenses as well...

And i love that the *best he can do* with the Japan thing is "all we wanted to do was disrespect the local culture by not treating the location with the solemnity it deserved and disrespect the victims for not treating them with dignity and respect." There is no good spin for this other than "we f'd up. We shoulnt'a did it. I hope someday the Japanese people will forgive us"

Coffee said in the past that when he doesn't wear his RU-vid outfit and is wearing his glasses people don't really recognize him much on the street or they say he looks familiar, but don't exactly know who he is. He explained that he very much prefers it that way. If I remember correctly he's also in a band that plays regularly in pubs and he's glad to do so without being recognized as a RU-vidr. Maybe I'm wrong, but to me he doesn't seem like the type of person to be offended because he wasn't immediately recognized by Runkle.

You'd think the defense would just be "Your honor, it's Logan Paul." It's not like his reputation could get any worse, he's already made sure it's thoroughly ruined by his own actions.

It really breaks my heart that Runkle would be accused of being paid off for his thoughts and opinions of the KR trial. I watch Runkle, Rob, EDB and Peter(LYK) all because they are all unapologetically honest about their thoughts and opinions. They all have or do practice different types of law and give their views from that side of law. People really need to do better.

When you started describing CryptoZOO I immediately thought it sounded like Neopets with money. Loved that reference. 😂

I can't help but feel like Logan didn't watch Coffeezilla's videos because there are text messages from Logan Paul and they're very damning!

Careful, Lally's gonna steal that Pokémon Go story of yours for his retrial.

This lawsuit is coming off as more defamatory than Coffeezilla's video.

2:34:56 “I worked for the CIA” = “I was a cooperating witness” 😂

2:53 replay crew, don’t edit out the technical difficulties. It was a good chuckle.

Ian you don’t need to explain your connections to anyone. Those are internet trolls and they will find a reason to criticize you no matter what. Anyone who matters already know you just shoot it straight. Thanks for your videos. Also I redid my gun course as I let my pal expire and the instructor brought you up mentioning your channel!

I worked as a public servant in Japan at the time of the Aokigahara incident. It was how I found how who the Paul brothers were. It was so hard for us, trying to deal with all the hurt he caused both in Japan and with our partner relations. The fact that he puts in this lawsuit that it was only good for understanding the importance of his reputation makes me so angry I have no words. He has no idea of the lasting effects he has had on others.

14 pages in & all I've learned is LP doesn't need help ruining his own career. He can do it all by himself.

For a person who claims to be a well-known celebrity, LP displays a shocking lack of understanding of what journalism is and how it is paid for. Has he somehow gotten to adult age without ever encountering a tabloid? Seen TMZ coverage? Does he know what paparrazzi are? He seems to think coffeezilla posting accurate information (allegedly 'biased' in tone) is somehow in violation of journalistic ethics. Reporters for well known non-internet media outlets can also show obvious bias. Honestly coffeezilla was extremely forgiving of LP in the series and I feel like it was LP's own actions (refunding egg sales but not tokens, the buyback program taking so long and having ridiculous legal obligations, his obvious disregard for all the victims who lost money) that ruined his repuation in the wake of the cryptozoo scam. Even in this obviously frivolous lawsuit where he claims he too was scammed by the con artists he hired for his project, he uses scare quotes around the word "victims". He easily could have eaten the $7M reimbursement and gotten enough good PR to repair the damage of his earlier behaviour. Instead he highlighted that he was and still is a 💩 person. And since he also doesn't acknowledge that his "hired artists" somehow produced 💩AI "art", or that he did formerly pump-and-dump other crypto tokens, or that coffeezilla was right to criticize him for not disclosing his personal incentives when promoting those tokens (because advertising has laws that content creators are not exempt from). I am so sick of his self-serving bull. The only acceptable outcome for this case, should it not be dismissed immediately, is for a court of law to declare that Logan Paul is indeed a scammer and it is not defamatory to refer to him as such.

Just as an example of a badass journalist sans journalism degree... Nellie Bly. Seriously, look her up (and I'm betting many journalists already know the name). No formal degree or really training, but did some insanely good work (no pun intended) on mental asylums way back when. She's one of the greatest journalists out there in the history of the country... And had no degree. She did a journalism. Well, actually, she did a lot of journalisms, all quite impressive at that

I got the impression Ian thinks Coffeezilla is wealthy? I've been watching Coffee since the Coffee Break era and he has spoken about how he cannot take sponsorships. His income comes from ads and patreon and it is the patreon money that pays for his investigations. If you want to be ethical and uncover scammers then it is not a very lucrative youtube career. It is a full time job requiring technical expertise but seems to be difficult to make it pay. My memory is of the earlier years being quite tough going for Coffee. Writing this comment makes me feel like I'm fan boying but scammers are forever making out that coffee is making money hand over fist making clickbait

1:18:53 “the Japan episode taught Paul a valuable lesson about the importance of…” - I was expecting the words following that to be, you know, something humble, showing new depth of character and respect towards others, realisations and gratitude, etc… but he manages to say he learned the importance of one’s freaking reputation 😂 wow. I don’t even know who this guy is and am glad for it lol

My gf has a journalism degree. You can borrow it as she isn't using it.

YOU DID A JOURNALISM, YAYYY

Investigative reporting will henceforth be known as “doing a journalism.”

Stream officially starts at 2:02 when technical difficulties end.

Me, a Philly girl yelling at my phone watching Runkle investigate the Eagles winning a superbowl 😂 go birds 🦅

Well, Logan's team sure has convinced me... It was always going to be a scam, just the experienced scammers he hired scammed him to and now Logan is salty about it.

Logan Paul is coming for Coffe's $10M studio 😲

If you think of professional wrestling as a gigantic expensive LARP on rails, it makes more sense. There's a DM (writer's room) that knows what stories it wants to tell. Then, it puts the athletes in situations that play out the story. If they need someone to lose, the opponent gets a hidden stat buff. If someone needs to win, the opponent gets nerfed. (Yes, they already know who is going to win, but in unlikely matches, something "magical" will happen to sway the results so they make sense.) To me, WWE makes way more sense as an RPG than it does as a sport.

Logan Paul's previous pump and dumps are nowhere mentioned, and are proof of Logan Paul's knowledge and prior experience in this area. He doesn't mention that he never payed his employees and launched the program knowing it hadn't been completed

Love that the German superchat came out in Orange. ⚽🇳🇱🧡

I'm almost wondering if Logan's lawyers put all that useless crap about Logan repairing his reputation in to head off an argument that Logan is defamation proof. Despite how funny it is to point out that Logan is a terrible person, it's pretty obvious that an argument of "lol. what reputation?" wouldn't fly in court (at least, not in this case.) That being said, I feel like the fact that that argument would almost certainly fail actually increases the chances that Logan's lawyers thought to counter it.

I can't believe he actually chose to sue coffeezilla, I don't see a world in which he comes out smelling any better, regardless of the outcome. Maybe he's counting on a private, paltry settlement that he can wave around as "vindication".

Ah, I was so hoping you'd cover this, I've been away all weekend, I'll listed to it later.

Soooo what you are telling me is my entire life during rhe Baldwin trial will be Baldwin coverage ad I'll be watching Emily's stream, then your stream, then your recap? Got it 😂😂😂😂woooooo!!!

Some pretty large statements he put out there in his lawsuit. Logan Paul has done some pretty crazy and despicable things over the years.

Including a Pandacat would automatically make this filing 1000 times more valuable to all its viewers. ETA: Midjourney did it better.

according to other lawyers looking at this case - idiot doesn't stand a chance agains Coffeezilla

It feels like logan wants to dry coffee of money with that lawsuit and stall tactics so that he wins by default or it gets settled with some harsh gag orders. Scummy tactics from an in my opinion scummy person.

I can forgive you for thinking coffee actually has a $10m studio after 4 and a half hours of this 😂

Mid Journey AI nailed the Panda Cat 😂😂

GOOD stream indeedy. Now, replaying this hour I missed 🍀

I was hoping you'd cover this, excited to hear what you got! (I'm just starting the replay)

Replay and a damn hard listening! Just like Mr Runkle said, if not for this disgusting lawsuit I would never bothered about this person. And I'm fuming over the so called "Japan incident"! In the year of 2014, when the deaths in Askigahara reached 108, authorities stopped making it public. Logan Paul with friends did their little "spoky" easy going camping in 2017. He was 22. They knew exactly what they where hoping to see. Logan Paul thinking about that dark path of his life for a 3 WEEK HIATUS! What the holey fuck, the audacity!

this suit is pounding the table. guess they couldn't find any law and very little facts, to pound, to actually back it up.

Pro-wrestling is easy to understand: it's an athletic soap opera.

The relevance is the extra billable hours the lawyer billed him.

IMO, even taking logan at his word, it is completely reasonable to think someone is scamming if they are this idiotic and arrogant. Therefore, it's not reckless disregard for the truth, and I don't think they have any grounds (haha) that coffeezilla knew it was false. Also, I don’t actually believe Logan, think he is a self obsessed POS and took advantage of a lot of people.

I like that the "egg" is an exact copy of a Pokémon egg.

The way im sat here waiting for the boom😭

So weird that I had just finished watching this series of videos when this lawsuit dropped. So I'm in a great position to say that I don't think Coffeezilla defamed anybody. I came away with it feeling like they were all grifting morons, with Logan Paul being the biggest moron and the least successful grifter. I mean, the very fact that they all bought coins cheap on the quiet before releasing them publicly, at which point their value shot up, means they were knowingly trying to take people's money. If Paul doesn't realise that's a scam, then he's stupider than I think plausible. The fact you got scammed in your scam doesn't make you not a scammer, it just makes you a bad scammer.

Logan Paul is using the "my dog stole my homework" defence. That pretty much says it all.

Agent 002 is the guy who unclogs the toilet at the CIA

Your AI''s panda cat looks a lot like the very real pallas cat; still better than the cryptozoo panda cat.

There is a lot of unrelated fluff. Paul is talking himself up, while trying to get ahead of the other biggest ammunition events that he created, for his own (valid) character assassination.

Both my father and grandfather were successful journalists and neither of them had a degree. All you needed was curiosity, a level of scepticism and the ability to write clearly. Shorthand helped.

i remember a few weeks after he was exposed by coffeezilla, logan Paul claimed he "rehomed" his beloved pet pigs after they were found abandoned in a field. one was dead and the other had barely survived. if it quacks like a mcalbert then he must be a mcalbert

I love the part about his "greater humility and self-reflection."

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Ian, I hope most people have never been in the same state as Logan Paul 😎 I plead prosopagnosia for never recognising people, including my own students 😬. I think Coffee woulda understood the fans and veteran things. I thought you were going to say to Coffee that you didn't drink coffee

I sincerely hope the court bills Logan Paul for wasting their time with this completely unnecessary diatribe. And dismisses the case with prejudice.

Honestly, both pandacats look absolutely awful. But I am happy you're covering Logan Paul.

yup I am a UK resident but a Dutch citizen

This was an amazing live and I have never laughed so hard at legal shenanigans in my life since Ken White’s send up on Prenda Law. (That would be the case where a federal judge had to resort to extensive Star Trek references to demonstrate how angry he was.)

I would argue against Logan's actions being "in good faith" to deliver a complete game because he didn't know wtf he was doing but decided to manage the project himself, rather than, I dunno, *hiring a competent game studio to do the whole shebang for him*.

For most of this I thought there would be an easy motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim. Literally. Not "failure to state a claim upon which relief may be granted" because there was literally no claims being made.

Is Runkle a Targaryen? He doesnt seem old enough for white hair.

Omg the reactions in chat when you pulled up pandacat

Coffeezilla if you go to his channel and watch his work on the Logan Paul segment you will find he has a team investigating it. His team put a lot of time and looked into every angle of this scam. Even talking with his team ( Logans team ) to clear up most of the questions which they couldn’t do, in-fact some of them gave some real dum answers. For Paul to even think he will win the suit is crazy, plus after this suit I won’t be surprised if the American government doesn’t get involved and Paul finding himself in a lot more trouble.😂😂😂

I feel like this law suit is going to just Streisand effect this & more people are going to go watch Coffeezilla’s videos

Scumdog millionaire was my fav part of this lawsuit

Great stream. Again. Thanks. ❤

Yep current CIA agents can not tell that they are. My dad's cover was various branches of the armed services, which also preempted him from being drafted during Vietnam. And even then, he was only allowed to talk about things he did when he was terminal and all the other agents associated with his work were dead, retired or declassified.

Nobody who worked for the CIA will tell you they worked for the CIA. Not directly.

Logan Paul has the better panda cat, because it's actually a panda cat. Midjourney AI gave you a racoon. (Commonly called Trash Pandas, and often compared to cats, but is not a panda cat. A Tanuki is closer to a racoon than this thing is to a panda cat.) But Logan Paul's panda cat looks like a photoshop job and not art generated by a video game. EDIT: Also, the Emperor's got no clothes on.

Watched the whole thing, absolutely hilarious

Logan: "I didn't do thing, here's proof" > provides examples of him doing thing

Case summary: Scammy youtuber is butthurt and is now suing a youtuber that exposed the scam. Scammy youtuber is jelous that exposing youtuber gets legit money for exposing scam.

Ok now I think I understand, two purposes - 1) intimidate anyone reporting unfavorably on Paul Logan. 2) discredit Coffeezilla to Logan's public.

Don't worry Runkle, there's always beer and sausages in Germany xD (As a German, I'm allowed to say that xD)

Never trust someone with 2 first names.

I know, I’m old but I always thought that crypto currencies would all crash within a relatively short time. The main reason I thought this since the beginning of bitcoin it’s that a rare glitch in a computer doesn’t constitute ANY value at all. All the other exchanges values existing in the world, have a MATERIAL set of properties that make them tangible and exchangeable. Labour, gold, petrol and so on, for example. Recently bitcoins have lost £20.000 on the stock market. It can only keep going down because of its ephemeral value. It will be interesting to see who will pay for this financial crisis. I bet it’s going to be the working classes again. As usual. Capitalists fuck up and we have to deal with the cost of inflation and recession!!!

Good point on bereaved being irrational. You are likely to fixate on the first person to blame. It’s part of grieving!

someone like @charlee is seriously unhinged. does he/she think there is some journalist registration list monitored somewhere?

I would love to be one of the many, many lawyers that signed off on this -- something that appears to be Logan Paul's fan fiction about how Stephen is a lecherous clout goblin who is deeply in love with him -- and filed it as a 'lawsuit,' like I haven't really heard such a... fellatious complaint in quite some time. Fallacious as well! Anyways, I bet he was feeling so fucking smug as they openly took advantage of his idiocy. To be a fly on that wall...

One thing I’ve come to know of you from watching you since Depp v Heard is you appear to me to be an ethical person! I’ve seen you choose to do the right thing, I.e., when in Virginia and you saw a juror in the depp v heard you quickly shut down your live! The way you stay neutral on Paul o when other creators are going hard on him! If people really think you were paid off they don’t really know much about you!

After being exposed Paul made all this big promises about how he was going to finish the game and reimburse people as a way to save his image. Then he immediately went silent about this for over a year. Only after people kept calling him out to fullfil his promise did he make that awful payback offer that doesn't even include the people who bought the tokens. I'm not sure I would call that Paul being committed to the buyback program like they do in the lawsuit. Also the reason why negative videos kept being made about him is because he was hoping people would forget about this and he could get away with it and not reimburse people. Had he kept communicating with the victims he would have gotten positive coverage like he did when he originally announced that he was going to reimburse them.

Huh, apparently Texas has an anti-SLAPP statute. It's called the Texas Citizens Participation Act, and as best as this layperson reads it, is more or less exactly worded to prevent this kind of nonsense. One of the things it explicitly protects is "gathering...information for communication to the public," Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. (Fancy legal symbol idk how to type in sure you know what I'm talking about) 27.003(a), 27.010(b) (2019). So yeah, Logan Paul might get SLAPPed! I frankly, in this humble nobody's opinion, hope he gets SLAPPed HARD, and is on the hook for mad legal fees as a result. I didn't expect Texas to have an anti-SLAPP law, honestly. I'm kinda impressed, since it doesn't seem like the kind of state that would have such a thing. I have no idea if it has the figurative teeth that some other states' statutes have (see California, for example, which apparently has a rather impressive anti-SLAPP statute, from what I can gather), but it does at least have something, which is cool.

How is this not helping Coffeezilla and hurting Logan Paul? I am so confused.

I wonder... If it's an egg nft, shouldn't the egg also be "one of a kind"?

Funny thing is with generative AI these days it would be trivially easy to generate hybrid images of these CryptoZoo animals. He invested $200,000 in the art to have a high schooler meme copy pasta the cat face on a panda and I can't even begin to imagine what some of the other stuff looks like crazy

3:55:59 Did PL write this himself?? Surely lawyers of the level he can afford would do a better job than this. 🧐 Also, is it normal to have chapters (subheadings) in a suit? I’m hoping it says “And they all lived happily ever after. The End” at the bottom

My cat never minds the pigeon business. I don't think she raised an ear from her slumber lol

fun fact: logan paul actually was on law & order svu as a criminal, specifically in the episode intimidation game. the tldr is that it's not very good and portrays both sides of the real-world event very poorly, but below is a summary so you don't have to watch it. the episode is based on gamergate, which was a harassment campaign against minorities (particularly women) in video games disguised as concerns about ethics in journalism. in the episode, a female video game developer receives threats from people online as her game comes close to releasing, she's assaulted in a bathroom at a convention, and The Good Guys™️ have to find the people behind it. it portrays the entirety of gamergate as violent misogynists (which a large portion of them weren't), ice t is in the episode and him being a gamer in real life is constantly shoehorned into the script, the game dev says that her assaulters "leveled up" in context of the attack, her online harassers are extremely tech literate yet somehow easily fall for undercover cops, and it's just an incredibly cringey watch for anyone who has a touch of an idea how video games, internet culture, or even just assault works. to tie this back in to logan paul, we get a scene of his guy and ice t's guy having a gunfight. 2015 was... an interesting time.

As someone who doesn't get most sports, as far as I can tell wwe-type wrestling is like a serial musical where instead of breaking into song the actors do spectacle fights to express their emotions and the plot.

1:34:15 it def wasnt enough money for art, thats why most were just photoshopped adobe stock photos. Not original art, mostly minor additions.

I find it amazing that Logan Paul has the nerve to call anyone a click goblin! His whole career was built on clickbait!!

45:50 ...did Logan Paul seriously put an autobiography/advertisement of himself in his own lawsuit? Ugh.