GET RID OF THE 212? | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Mike Van Wyck & Guy Cisternino | Bro Chat  

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Fouad single handedly ruining productivity for 8-5ers at least twice a week lately lol

Love having big Mike on the podcast

Mike has to be a regular I’m pumped! Dude is hilarious

The Mike and iain dynamic is so funny man. Soon enough this’ll be a Canadian only podcast 😂

It’s cool hearing Mikes laugh in the background of every joke. Like you can always count on Mike to laugh at everything

Mike is an awesome addition to the podcast.... really down to earth guy.

I have to agree, Mike being on twice now has been a nice addition, well spoken lots of knowledge!!

Mike & Jose have been two great new additions

1:31:40 Fouads face killed me here. You can tell those headphones + Guys screaming had Fouads ears in pain 😂

Mike's humility about falling is great. I'm 265 and I slipped on a concrete beam I've got on the edge of my pond. Landed half in the water- knee ribs and serratus to the concrete. Blammmo! Occasional reminders of humanity can be good for the soul, but all my compound movements say otherwise...

Love seeing the guys argue and then realizing that they agree overall just to keep arguing about the same things only realizing that they agree again, lol! You guys crack me up! Mike just sitting there with a smile on his face while the rest are getting heated. Maan, this podcast is pure gold and it’s so cool that Mike has become a part of the podcast.

My pro career was short (2 years). Most memorable was my first Olympia (202 Class) and the first 2 shows I did, which I won. Next memorable would be when I was prepping for the NY Pro and chilling with Guy and Jon Delarosa during weekly check ins with Fak. That was the first time I really “felt” like I was a real pro, doing real pro stuff. I remember having fun back stage with some of the guys at the NY and Toronto Pro (Seth Feroce is a FUNNY BASTARD!). I remember being afraid of botching my posing routine, I remember a long conversation with Jose Raymond at the O while we both did cardio. But generally, it was all a blur. I can definitely relate with Mike on this one.

Literally just finished the last podcast and now onto the next, i enjoy every one!!!

I like how Fouad asked if Mike drinks an hour in after they talked about drinking in the beginning😂

This is the crew I was looking for. Fouad you’re killin it man! 🔥

This combo, fouad, mike, ian. Guy. I’m dead! Was on the floor laughing non stop. Wanna see more of the four of you on the podcast together.

Yess looking forward to possible arguments with Iain and Mike😂 Thanks Fouad

When i needed the podcast the most Fouad knows! Going through some tough times and the podcast helps a bunch making me relax and get rid of the stress while i'm at work or at home after the gym

Ego is the reason we miss moments of our lives. I missed my amateur career because of the pressure, always in my head, focused on “the next” - never present. To experience anything it requires presence - state of consciousness Vs state of unconsciousness when we’re in our head stressing or always looking forward. Gotta stop to smell the roses

Mike has become my favorite on these podcasts. I never followed him before but after watching a few with the rest of Bro Chat, I jumped on watching him and it is crazy how much he knows about movements and exercises. Crazy how I didn't know about him prior, but glad his part of the group now... keep it going Fouad, the new crew coming in are great.

I understand Ian and respect the shit out of him for being real. No handouts, this is life it ain’t fair, keep fucking working.

I love Guy ❤ He acts like such an innocent kid sometimes , gets angry during debates ! But he’s genuinely a sweetheart and that reflects from his face ❤

Fouad - give yourself a pat on the back. You are the glue that holds all these awesome people together.

Alright Mike is back, thank you uncle fouad and bc crew, please stay safe and always share the love brothers 🙏🇵🇭❤️

I like Mike, he is humble and seems he gets along with the guys. Really hope he keeps on coming to the show!

Can’t beat a bit of mike !!! Brilliant addition. Thanks again

Love that you're having Big Mike on!

There just isn't a better podcast than this one. Fouad, you do a great job. Don't believe what topics you come up with, but your crew is great.

I absolutely agree with Iain on this one. Stop filling the pro ranks with low quality bodybuilders. The best way of doing that, is making the amataur ranks more competitive to make being a pro harder and also while being a pro. If the loser bodybuilders want to give up, let them give up. In order to have winners, you need losers: otherwise the game isn't good anymore.

Love having Mike on but really liked the other dynamic with Paul and Jose u and Mike all laughed and understood each other to a T

Mike and Iain saying like and right. Being Canadian I get it haha. Thanks for the information and entertainment 💪🏽

Funny how in certain areas Guy and Fouad argue against catering to everybody, but when discussing bodybuilding everyone (short guys) should have their own little place to compete.

I agree 100% with Iain, because if not, than Clarida isn’t big enough sorry, and he must finish dead last…. But quality isn’t mass only, and body building and 212 have the same purpose on that

Saw Big Mike in the thumbnail and automatically thought "YESSSSSS"

I love listening to you guys argue or debate. Guy and Iain got so heated this one but i know its all love at the end of the day. Thanks for not cutting it lol

Love that Mike's on the podcast, I think he's on speaker view cause the screen flashes on his face everytime someone else talks lol. Gallery view man.

Kick ass podcast again boys… Best in the business BY FAR!!!!!!

Absolutely love this podcast, great as usual

The highlight here is Fouad getting better at Excel every time :D

I think the reason all these other classes were made is so the promoters and leaders of ifbb to make more money it was not for the competitors

It’s cool seeing big mike on the podcast, he’s a smart dude

I’ve literally watched the singer 100x on replay and have cried laughing every time. Pls Fouad play random funny clips more often

lmao! “That was the sound Mike made when he fell out of his truck.”

GET RID OF THE 212? there goes Guy´s legacy

Guy yelling is single-handedly the best thing ever 😂

WE SEE VANWYCK WE VANCLICK

Brother you guys make me laugh hardcore! I look forward to these podcasts every week. Fucking hilarious!

Can you get Mike on again and ask him some detail questions about Antoine vaillant how they met? Work/train together? Antoine personality? Work ethic? How Antoine background might help him now? Recovery from both bicep tears? Training for Olympia? AAS/ supplement use? Thanks fouad you guys are the best!

Big Mike is such a great addition to the show

The singer 😂😂😂 OMG THE SINGER!!!!! Funniest moment so far

Mike and Iain?! 🙏🏼Killin it Fouad

CBUM winning the Open Olympia this year was a bold an amazing statement by Fouad. Need to hear a debate about this.

I’m a cop. I have an absolutely terrible memory. It’s partly due to the fact that I try not to remember half the shit I deal with. It’s also partly due to the fact that I’m always worried about the next thing/next call the next training session. I feel like people who are goal-oriented and productivity driven, focus more on the future rather than the past So in terms of memory, it’s just discarded at times and the finer details of the more mediocre happenings

Great show, I really enjoy watching. Congrats 👊👊👊👊

Big Mike giving trailer park boys references! Love it hehe

If bodybuilding is judged properly size doesn't matter. Shawn is a perfect example of this. His muscle matches his frame. So a bigger guy who's taller should be judged against him based on overall look on his frame. Taking it to a size game makes the sport more dangerous

Big mikeeee!!! Thanks to you my arm workouts are crazy

I used a log book (aka my cell phone) in the beginning to show what I was pushing my self on and where I was improving. After about 1-2 years, I dropped it and go with feel of the weight and exhaustion of the muscle

Love the 212 debate Good podcast fouad!

Guy went from 0-100 so quick 😂😂love it

Mike is such a great addition!

Seeing this lineup on Bro chat, Fouad has set himself to win a show because neither Iain nor Guy have an alliance mate on here and Fouad has Mike this show!

A f*ckin sea lion up there😂 - Big Mike 2023

I really believe that 212 if they want to compete in open they should be a weight limit to enter,example 215 to up why because is obviously Clarida is going to be shredded he’s short not fare

RBP is the best thing I’ve came across.

We need an all Canada episode. Mike, Iain, Paul.

I think loser for the Arnold classic predictions should get a head tattoo like Mike. Ha, ha, ha ha, thank you for today’s podcast. Love you all.

Mike is a great addition!

Mike is such a great guy. Love seeing him back!

Fouad’s arguments are always so frustrating. He takes twenty minutes to understand what the other side is saying, eventually comes around, and restates their argument like it was his all along. 1:43:42

I’m getting behind on these podcasts, but am I the only person who argues along like these guys can hear me?

Great podcast love Mike lol hes hilarious

Hopefully we’ll continue to see more of Mike!

It feels like my world is coming together all at once. Trailer park boys is the funniest show ever

The reason u remember highs and lows vividly (as well as traumatic moments for those who have had them) is because ur adrenaline is high when the memory is formed. This makes u remember things clearly, I’ve heard children were thrown into cold water in medieval times after studying so that they remembered better although I havnt checked if that’s true.

I think Big Mikes idea for 212 was a good one you can only lose X LBS. As a fan, the 212 is one of my favs due to the conditioning they bring.

The arguments always add a dynamic other podcasts lack! Love hate relationships for everyone! That’s real entertainment 😂

Would love to see a solo podcast of Fouad and Iain debating all sorts of topics 🤣

I agree with Iain on this one, I loved seeing Guy get all fired up. You guys have the best podcast, makes the day better! Thanks boys

Fouads face when zane watson is mentioned lool

Ian is right. 212 should go away and just leave open. I feel classic and men’s physique are different and should stay separate.

In reference to the 212 argument, I’m pretty sure there is an interview out there somewhere from a few years ago in which Chris Bumstead states that if the Classic category wasn’t created, he would never have competed in open so would have never pursued bodybuilding.

Shout out to the best bodybuilding podcast out there 🙌 👊

Keep bringing mike on the podcast.

Love the debate🔥🔥🔥 and having mike on again

I love that Mike experienced his first heated debate 😂

We need a mike and fouad podcast

I was dying at 33:00 lmao

Iian is right on the 212 stuff. Sorry guys. There is genetic superiority in sports. There is a reason why most other sports have a very detailed teir system. Basic ex: high school

Hopefully we can enjoy Guy without him trying to sell us Kratom.

Very good debate guys!!!! All your hard core arguments are because both sides are right.... One side sees a 6 and the other side sees a 9 both are right.... . Love GUY'S intensity always Fouad glad you always defend and stand up for the lower guys creating justice and prudence so cool on your part

I think you should do a podcast with guy, jose and clarida,and ask shawn if he would have competed if there wasn't a 212 class

Perfect length for this podcast title

My dog started howling to those whale noises 😂😂😂

Mike was the only one who didn't try to shout over the others when arguing.

Fouad u got to give Trailer Park Boys a watch, I felt It wasn't my kind of show for a long time - always knew about it.. But It's incredible, I watched every season multiple times now lol

Awsome debatt today💪 my suggestion is to crown a true Mr Olympia in the end like back in the day short(212), long(212 plus) and classique as an overall champ. Would work like a charm Edit: just saw Mike saying the same 😬😂💪

The answer to bodybuilding isn't eliminating the 212. Imop I think the IFBB should have the NPC weight divisions as pros and let each class do an overall for the title/money of the show. Doing that would have many more pros be able to compete in a weight class that they belong in. And it would be much safer health wise. You'd still get the monsters in the super heavies and those freaks can get as big as they want. But instead of all those weight classes have say a middle weight up to not 178 but 185 pounds. Have a Light heavy not up to 198 but 210. Heavy weight not up to 225 but 240. Then have anything over 240 as super-heavy. 4 divisions. Ifbb would bring in more money, there be more pros that can actually compete and it would be healthier because people would stay in a certain divisions and still possibly be able to win the overall to win the show. And the Olympia and the Arnold, no weight divisions. You have to the overall of a show to qualify for the no division Olympia.

Iain is future ifbb pro Head judge💯❤️