@Gaming ZONE GAZO i remember playing Assassin's creed 2 on my 8500gt and some pentium single core. I got around 8 to 12 fps. Still played it till the end. My head hurt for few hours probably after each playtime. Good times.
well it just needs some new noctua fans to pump air through it those fans are done there bearings are going on them that's why they are screaming kill me kill me please
@@raven4k998 The bearings sound fine to me, these are just relatively high power (for the size) parts that are going to need a fair bit of airflow to stay cool with a heatsink that small. Moving that much air makes a fair bit of noise, even from the air moving if you could somehow get the fan to be silent. Noctua fans might be okay if you don't mind the thing running even hotter than it already is and probably just overheating all the time.
I remember when i was going to get one of these back in 2016 when I knew nothing about gaming pcs and i thought the main component for the pc to play games smoothly was loads of ram lol.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI i agree firmly with you in this one, had to oc my FX 8320E to 4.0 Ghz to experience some good performance, to do so i need to use a cooler master hyper evo 212, wich is not tiny, is more like a huge air cooler!. The temps were good, but OMG look at the size of that aircooler. I don´t have the FX anymore, but it was honestly good beacuse it was cheap.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI when I said a huge air cooler, is in reference of what the other guy was saying about frecuency if you wanted performance you had to have high core speed, and that needed really good dissipation the cooler is huge in comparison to this tiny box, and that's why this cpu has very low speed. And I know the be quiet cooler, but the hyper Evo doesn't fit in every case, either.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI my laptop i3 4030U + an R5 M230 from around the same era runs games at the exact same framerate with this pc. it's just bad implementation i guess.
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep But it is using the RX Flop series/Flop VII, it failed to beat the Titan V/RTX. I mean why else AMD named it so differently from the RX 4/5/600? They obviously pulled the same stunt as the R9 Not-So-Fury series. The R9 Not-So-Fury was a direct response to the Titan series.
It would probably run a lot cooler and quieter if the top cover was installed. The the fans would be dragging air through the case over top of the components...
or if you gave it some quiet noctua silent fans newer fans would be quieter due to having new not worn out failing bearings that are grinding away under load
When I get my hands on an old system I like to pop off the stickers on the fans to clean and oil the fan axles. Cheap sew machine oil does the trick as it's made for fast moving parts. It won't save every fan, but I've been surprised at how much the noise levels went down in some instances. Worth a try if you don't mind the tinkering, and it makes it more sales worthy without spending much money.
I bought one of these in a bundle back in 2016 with an 8GB stick. I upgraded it to 16GB and an SSD as well. That thing was fine, but it overheated like crazy. I replaced the stock paste with better stuff, and that seemed to help out with the temps somewhat. However, the fans had an issue where they would be kinda noisy, and then would very suddenly ramp up to a very high speed, making a TON of noise and generally scaring the crap out of myself and everyone else in the room. Reading reviews of this thing, the fans really are startlingly loud when they decided to kick up to 100%.
I'd like to see how the Nvidia version of this brix holds up. Since that one shipped with a laptop i5-4200h and a desktop gtx 760 2gb, plus is was finished in green instead of red :)
I've them both the nvida version I got is the super rare i7 version with 6gb gtx 760....it works very well but load is a understatement the amd version I have also works well,still plats some aaa titles at low resolution
haha the smell of smoke is so difficult to get out of electronics. I don't mind if the packaging smells but when the whole computer stinks it's another story
@@RandomGaminginHD I remember when I got my first pc many years ago, I knew nothing so a technician built it, the guy used to smoke sooo much that when I opened the box a whirlwind of smoke smell came out of it, even the metal case had the smell.
I have a Brix from 2015, model GB-BXA8-5557 (rev. 1.0). The graphics in it is Radeon™ HD 8550G. I never used it for gaming. Just a small HTPC. It works great for that, and no issues with Windows 10. I realize this is different than what you're reviewing, but mine is starting to get really loud at startup.
I used AMD MsrTweaker to contain my laptops 5750M APU and it's still running cool and quiet even with a HD8670 at full throttle next to it sharing heatpipes. If I remember correctly, @3.5GHz it needed around 1.2 volts for 100% stability.
If I recall from reviews, the cooling system uses a thermal pad for heat transfer and is complete garbage. There were small tweaks you could do to fix the noise and temperature like using better thermal pads or more in-depth fixes like machining it so the cooler sits closer and using thermal paste. Also, someone else mentioned it, but having the top off disrupted airflow dynamics and caused the fans to be less effective (even though that sounds counter-intuitive). Less air was pulled through the system and more directly from the side and out.
2:13 "sometimes the temperatures sore for no apparent reason" & "Why are you making so much noise!?" 😅😂 Most likely, because there's a Radeon R9 running inside something that's not even half the size of a shoe box 😝 You always post interesting videos, cheers 👍
I have the disabled GPU, lesser sibling of this machine, GB-BXA8-5557. I got much better thermals, turbo duration, and relative noise by reversing the direction of the fans through the chassis; I still use it for non-gaming. Might be worth a shot!
For something so small it actually looks pretty good. Not only that but easier to take with you then a laptop (minus mouse, keyboard, power source, monitor e.g)
Not bad for such a small size - how they managed to get 16GB RAM, a 240GB SSD, plus the CPU and GPU in such a small package is pretty amazing! But it's no wonder there's no room for an adequate cooling solution.
What stands out to me the most is that the M275X is honestly not that bad of a chip. With better cooling and, hopefully, a better cpu this thing should be pushing out way better performance.
GTA V actually wasn't a very demanding game on release. I remember running it pretty well on a 4th gen i3 and GTX 660 - and those weren't too far off from it's recommended specs.
I'd love to see a followup on this video using slow/fast ram to show how important it is for systems that use shared memory! Grab some slow 1033Mhz DDR3 and some peppy 1600Mhz to see if there's any difference in performance. Also drag your Ryzen APU into the mix, would be great to see it done on a few systems. On Ryzen you could just go into the BIOS and turn down the speed manually to simulate it. I've been seeing APU based gaming PCs popping up on my local marketplace using sub 2400Mhz RAM and know you should use 3200Mhz or faster, but the question is, how much does it actually hurt performance??
I'm so happy when benchmarks still include GTA V because, yeah, almost anything these days can shred GTA V but when you see older hardware getting 30fps avg then it's like, "Oh, alright, that says something." Keep up the great videos mate!
I use this CPU at work and it does nothing but connect to our network or browse the web and it sounds like a jet engine its a relief when I turn it off each night. My FX8350 at home is whisper quiet and runs pretty cool also (the Noctua NH-U12s helps).
@@RandomGaminginHD Maybe try to get a i5-6585R, you already did a video on the i5-5675C. Could be an interesting comparison between current Vega 7 APUs and the old Intel iGPU maybe.
Wow, back then the system integrator Cyberpower PC sold this as a complete system called the "Fang R9" with a 120gb SSD, a single 2GB stick of RAM and a Windows 8 license. I got one as a gift for a family member, as on Black Friday that complete system was $99 US after a rebate. It was unbelievably loud and slow, even at the time (which I guess is why cyberpower was dumping them). Not sure what happened to this PC, as I don't think that family member used it for very long.
Always liked these little compact PCs. I think the issue with the random overheating is because of the way the cooling system uses the case to direct airflow. With the top panel off, the air is just escaping out of the top of the machine rather than going through the heatsink. Worth a try?
I mainly use my laptop to play games for ease of use and travel purposes and cool thing about the laptop that I am using is that the processor and graphics card are built to be very hot, cpu is usually at 80 degrees celsius and graphics card at 60-70 while gaming, and it doesn't seem to be causing any problems.
You should see if AMD's FSR gives it a boost. And if you've still got that Athlon 3000g from a previous video, that'd be cool to see too. If it's available now.
2:20 "and all i was doing was a whole lot of nothing". it sort of looks like gpu was pegged at 100% for a bit there and that 91degrees was at the very end of a stress test. gpu 1 may been the integrated but that 91degree figure does not appear to be from an idle / nothing
I remember the Gigabyte Brix series. I was going to get one of them (looking at this model in the video), mostly for a HTPC, but I went with the one with the built-in projector and speaker to boot (GB-BXPi3-4010). I have it running Ubuntu (20.01 I think) with 16gb of ram. Reason for Ubuntu and not Windows. Is cause i didn't want to spend money on another OS when there are free option that will do what I need to do (which is to become a small HTPC). It still runs too (both the computer and the projector, the bulb is still original and haven't burned out yet). Doesn't have Keystone (or any settings on the projector other than a separate power button and a manual focus).
This would make for a great little retro gaming/emulation box. Being able to run Windows on it, even if it's "only" Win7, could be of benefit for someone who has problems with Linux-based systems.
i would love to see you test this with Solus Plasma, it should run far better then windows 7 or 10, and many games will likely run better... from my experience testing APU laptops with and without dedicated gfx.
Aight so a few things: 1) Looks like the iGPU is being used as the framebuffer - can you use the 2016 AMD Terascale beta driver for that, then use the newest 21.x driver for the M275X? Try /r/AMDHelp 2) That’s an mSATA drive and I heard m.2 at one point, so just an FYI there. 3) AMD Overdrive is discontinued software - but if you can find it - you could probably undervolt that CPU (and maybe both GPUs?) for better temps/performance? Dang looks like a fun tinker toi
I owned one of these back in the day, it was a never ending headache. I had it replaced twice by gigabyte and after a fair amount of complaining they took it back and sent me a laptop instead….back when gigabyte didn’t suck as a company.
strip down , clean, add liquid metal TIM and some noctua mini fans :) got to be worth another video (then maybe compare to a 11th gen intel/5000 series AMD apu mini pc if you can get hold of them to try/review)
I would like to see this kind of diy small form factor computers, with the advances we've made in small technology over this 7 years it would be great, of course if it had like ryzen 3 3200g or a intel 11th gen processor with the new intel graphics (if it didn't cost like a house)
How in the world did this not perform even with GTA5, Skyrim, CSGO, OR Crysis... They had the audacity to call this a "gaming PC" in 2014 when far more demanding games were mainstream.
