Good Hair vs. White Hair 

I don't get why the black celebrity women don't wear their natural hair out. They show it on instagram or twitter but won't wear it out to a red carpet event or award ceremony. I hate that.

The title should be Black hair Vs. white hair as they did not elaborate on the 'good hair' issue. Black hair can be a variety of textures and the looser the curl pattern, the more people regard it as 'good hair'.

I relax my hair, and occasionally wear weaves, wigs, and braids (when I can afford it) and I'm not trying to be "white". Ignorance is bliss. I have tried afro and short and it just doesn't look right on me (in my opinion). I simply prefer for my hair to look good and healthy and for me to be comfortable. Plain and simple, it's nobody's business what someone else chooses to do with their hair.

good hair is when hair shines and don't have split ends

A lot of people forget, or don't realize, that the struggle of "good hair vs bad hair" is born out of racism and colorism. Dark-skinned slave women were raped by their masters, bearing light-skinned children. Light-skinned, curly-haired slaves were better treated than, and thus envied by, their darker-skinned counterparts, and over subsequent generations this became known as colorism, a term coined by Alice Walker. Colorism is a form of racial discrimination that applies social status according to skin color. The whiter your skin, the more attractive you might be considered to be. Hair texture also plays a part: long, curly, wavy tresses are considered by some to be more desirable than than coarse, kinky, "wooly" fros. You can see the "good hair vs bad hair" struggle while traveling through the history of black hair. When black people of all shades and hair types began straightening their hair, seeking the sleek, straight hairstyles of the white people around them, they were commended by both white culture and black culture. This approval is something many black people (black women in particular) today struggle to realize, understand, and overcome. But it's a double-edged sword. Should a black woman straighten her hair to appeal to white society and the black people who dwell in it, or keep her hair natural and risk negative comments, being fired or expelled, and other forms of discrimination? Even within the black hair community itself you'll find lots of contention. Big, inner city hair shows tend to favor bright colors, hair pieces, wigs, weaves, and extensions, hot combs, relaxers, and straighteners. The sudden rise of the natural movements features embracing all textures of coils, kinks, curls, braids, twists, dreads, the application of hair custards and essential oils, and all natural ingredients. And then, of course, you'll have a whole bunch of in-betweeners (like me) just trying to find out what the heck works best for his or her hair.

If we had more open honest conversations like this we would learn a lot about one another.

I'm cracking up at what the white girls think is "coarse". Even if your hair is curly, it is not the same. Our hair has a certain texture that their hair will never be like. Period. I've seen so many argue "it's the same!!! I have curly hair too! I'm natural too!!" But it's like, what we go through society wise and what our hair is like in general are completely different. We are the only ones on the planet with this hair. Therefore, they (people in society who hate it and make it into a bad thing) do not understand it and we go through a lot of crap from it. Be it physical, emotional, spiritual, verbal, etc. We have stereotypes that follow us all the way to the workplace and to our own families. To say there are things they'll never understand is truly an understatement.

I like that Julie Gernstein mentioned that she actually uses African American hair products. Having ad a multicultural mix of friends all my life, I've had white friends that didn't have the "ideal" of straight, thick hair either. All of us had our issues with our hair, and some of my white friends had hair that was dry, "wouldn't grow', too curly, too thin, etc. I always found it to be a bit of "belly button gazing" that so many of us black women thought that all white women had "good hair".

The title of this video is disgustingly racist. It's Black Hair vs. White Hair, both can be good or bad. It's media like this that is the reason there is not perfect integration in society: because people make a spectacle of the differences instead of embracing unity.

I'm so glad I subscribed. love this channel, women and men.

I really enjoy these videos. It's so incredibly nice to see white women and black women come together and have intellectual and candid conversations like this. Really great stuff.

Really enjoy these discussions...such a brilliant idea.

Honey, I am guilty of the bad lacefronts. I've since seen the light though. Lol

I kind of find it adorable how unknowing the "White" women are. They are so cute. ^_^

Wow! Now this is how you have a convo about cultural differences and nuances. I cannot believe this was made back in 2013. I'm very impressed soley because I feel like these convos (between white and black people) are not being filmed or had as much anymore. At the very least it's hard to find. I actually found this after I was looking for a video like this between white and black men. Still haven't found anything...but I'm so glad I found this one.

Standing ovation!!!! Thank you for saying that.

I am taking a drink every time I hear the word "Like".

Love this show discussion. Loved hearing the white women point of view. More please!

im Cuban but having done reserch on my family the Cortes and the Acosta's the main family groups originate from Spain.but yeah I think you are right ether was the comment above was beyond ignorant. and although in not African American I still like watching these videos.

Actually most of the hair being sold is indian hair.

About 10 years ago I started working for a company & in the company handbook there was the appearance rules. One of the rules was "no extreme" hairstyles" which proceeded to list Mohawks, unnatural colors, braids, & cornrows. After about 3 years they finally took this policy out of the handbook. It was so racist, I couldn't believe the company had got away with it for so long.

I wish y'all would've talked about shrinkage especially towards the end when she said she can't tell who's hair is real and who's isn't. For me wen my hair is all the way shrunken up it looks like I only have 2 inches of hair sticking up on the top of my head but when I've took 3 days worth of time (literally) to stretch it out as far as I like it to be stretched people are shocked to see that I actually do have hair. When my hair is flat ironed it goes to the top of my collar bone. #shrinkageisreal yall😴👌🏾

Ive always felt like if your hair behaves how you want it to,be it bone straight,curly,or afro puffed...its good

0:18 Two words: Gabby Douglas. This prodigy is the first woman of color in Olympic history to become the individual all-around champion, and the first American gymnast to win gold in both the individual all-around and team competitions at the same Olympics. She is beautiful, well-spoken and classy well beyond her young 16 years. She worked hard and sacrificed the way others her age in America haven’t. Yet, instead of celebrating her, black women and men preferred to mock her for her HAIR. Shm

That conversation lacked depth

this is why i am just like wow, who cares what women do to their hair as long as they dont hurt themselves or others who gives a darn and so what some women like all hair lengths and rock them,good for them

Nobody discussed the pressure that comes from fashion. The two black women on the right have hairstyles that would be termed 'funky' or 'artistic', while the hairstyle of the black woman on the left would be termed 'elegant', mainly because it's straight and slicked back (I like all their hairstyles BTW). So black women can't be elegant without straightened hair? I'm waiting for a media portrayal of an elegant black woman with natural hair.

I ended up talking about something different than what you were referring to.

You are right, you do look better with a weave, you do look better putting another race of womans hair on top of your natural hair completely covered. And you do look better with contacts, the lighter the better or the bluer the better.

i am natural and my hair is very healthy. sometimes i wear it kinky and sometimes i straighten it. that is one of the benefits of not having relaxed hair. my best friend wears weaves religously and underneath its natural but unhealthy looking. so weaves work best for her and there is nothing about her "white looking". i'm not more black because i am natural.

Even more damaging than the media, are the attitudes within the black community to each other. A couple of weeks ago a teenage girl was found dead in my neighborhood in NY. While investigating, a whole bunch of crap came to the fore: including the fact that her schoolmates used to bully her for wearing and 'old' weave (not buying a new one frequently enough). Mind you: many people in my neighborhood are living paycheck to paycheck. Yet they still mock eachother for being poor (old weave). Sad.

It's a touchy topic and probably people are guarding their own feelings a bit AND probably the black sisters and white sisters are being careful not to say something that will upset each other. I like that they chose to come together and chat about this despite any challenges that could arise :)

Love good hair

true

have anyone of you stopped to think, wow! maybe they like there natural hair bt just want a change.... 😣 amazing to think about it isn't it, lol

Exactly. The black community can grow so strong if we stop tearing eachother down. The artist in the music industry that have made it loud and clear that they love women of lighter complextion than dark skin. WTF? Beauty is in all color range. Black women are looked down so much and you wonder why you have those who feel the need to change their looks so they can fit in that "What is beauty" image.

Women.... in general.... obsess about hair and weight, no matter the their ethnic background.It's just something we do!

I feel like this is a good series, and I am glad that there is finally interracial dialogue on the matter. Maybe its just me, but these women don't feel too comfortable with one another.There seems to be a little fear or tension, some apprehension.

Long flowing blonde hair on white women is my favorite but when it comes to black women I think they look best with thick curly or coarse natural afro hair over relaxed or permed hair.

good hair vs white hair *coughs natural hair

So you're saying black women can't get lice? Serously?

CORRECTION Black women mocked her hair NOT black men. It is BW that have an issue with their hair, not black men, despite BW trying to perpetuate this myth.

yeah but not everyone wear weave to look like someone or better than someone. My hair grows long but recently I cut it due to damage after the medication I received when I was sick. Since my hair is short, I cantdo certain styles anymore and get tired of the regular short bob look so I might do weave, extenstions or even a wig to give myself a natural look. I know some chick do overboard but thats them not me. I seen Chris Rock film too. I just dont like when people assume I hate myself for it

The BIGGER question is: Why do Black people say weave and White women say extension? LOL And why is there a NEGATIVE connotation with the word weave? I have dreadlocks down to my derriere and young Black girls will debate among themselves whether its real or not so we can't win for winning! LOL

Everyone doesnt have the same texture hair anyway. I wear weave for the length I dont have at the time. I dont may attention to the texture as long as its not flying away. Family members of mine have a range of hair textures (No we dont have perms either). I dont wear weave trying to be someone else thats what separates me from a woman that probably does.

And she is correct. :)

My mama said All hair is good hair

Sry, I kinda lost track there^^

Healthy hair is good hair

They wanted to hear their opinions. It's not a damn sensitive topic.

it some ways it does because most have been brainwashed to think they look better with someone else's hair, take a look at chris rock's documentary good hair and you'll understand why he said that

I definitely got the hair policing when I was in middle school. I was natural and have been all my life and I'd get Black girls (and guys) harassing me for not having my hair straightened. And I once had a Black girl come up to me, offended that my hair wasn't straightened, because if she had my hair, she'd do so much with it. It's funny, if she had my hair, she wouldn't have had my hair because she would have straightened it. My hair was long BECAUSE it was natural and not damaged by chemicals.

great disscusion; how ever i did notice how the black women seemed to speak up less about this topic and were more 3rd person with their answers. this suggest to me that this is still a sensitive topic to them. by the way i'm black so no keyboard warriors saying i'm racist please.

Shallowest conversation about hair... ever

The woman in the middle with shirt curly hair looks like the girl from avatar similar face sturcure

lol this was interesting....

For some reason i read it " good hair vs becky hair" lmao

I prefer all natural

healthy hair is good hair

Hmm never wore blue contacts or any contacts that werent my natural eye color (dark brown). Never bleach my skin, I love my caramel skin color. I wear my natural straight anyway so wtf is the difference wearing weave thats straight but longer than real hair? So you can save your comment for someone else who is having an identity crisis because Im not.

no problem some body needed to say it cuz its true. a lot of the features people associate with white people as usually features that are quite common to other races too.

Both BM and BW mocked her hair. Just do a twitter search (last August). It is true that there were indeed BM who told BW to get a life, but there were definitely also BM who enjoyed participating in this cyber bullying. It made headlines all over the world (the topic of black folks mocking her hair). Such a disgrace. But I guess: small minds, small thoughts.

Actually, that's one issue we never seem to have, LOL

Well the best hair is healthy hair to be honest. But honestly everyone should love their OWN hair and be proud of it. The problem is the media brainwashes people of color(especially blacks) to hate their hair. And this doesnt happen with people who have straight hair(typically whites). Even though straight hair ALSO has disadvantages, hard to style and keep a style that will maintain for the whole day. No versatility to straight hair, it's boring.

the difference is its not your texture and its not your real hair. thats someone else's natural hair that you glue and sew on top of your hidden hair. after a while it looks crazy, and time for more glue and more indian remy hair.

u don't need a s at the end of lice its already plural

There's nuff hair care products on the market for bw's hair but the competitive market calls for more.

i always gotta brush my hair or else NAPS

Its just hair....really who cares if you shave it off or cut it. It grows back.

So if you feel Black women look better with weave and contacts why do you fault them for wearing it?

rd that's understandable i'm just saying in some cases with females

yeah I seen those chicks looking like a hot mess especially when they dont wear it right. Black women can grow their hair long. It just take our hair longer to grow and continuing maintenance. For those women who change themselves to look like someone else, thats a personal issue that lies deep. It doesnt help that media push that anything non black is beautiful mentality everywhere.

Not only white people have straight hair, why can't it be "Arabizing" or "chinesising" their hair?

The last few comments have annoyed me. But if I was on the outside looking in it would seem crazy. Like "Hello starving children" Right? So first you must understand what the third question that is asked when any black girl is born.1 Is it a boy or a girl? 2 How much does she weigh? 3 Does she have good hair? Someone in the extended family WILL ask this question. It is as much a tradition as Christmas. And that hair is not a big deal, it doesn't really matter? If the society you live in says it matters it matters. You can work to change it but saying it doesn't is just as foolish as putting way to much emphasis on hair. You have become the complete opposite of what your opposing and thus if they are stupid and to extreme then what must you also be??? But back to that it matters Victoria Secret Fashion Show how many of the models have short hair?.... No, No just think about it. How many of the posters in there stores have short hair? In there catalog? Write them a letter say "Hey hair doesn't matter have all your models wear short hair for the next show." It would save them money-all those models can't have all the same mid-back or longer hair-extensions are expensive. What are the odds they will do it? "Well that's VS" Yes and millions of men watch that show and they see that the image of allurement and beauty is different skin tones and races BUT they ALMOST ALL have LONG hair!!! It has no effect-so Superbowl ads are just there as fillers?? Really? Miss America? Miss USA? Short hair? Hmmmm NOPE!! And that one is even worse you know why? Because she is supposed to be more than just beautiful she has the Total package. Beauty and able to answer some off the wall question and guess what She cares about starving children!!! But you know what she MUST have to win? LONG HAIR. Black women have great trouble getting long hair. Why? Well relaxers which contain chemicals break down the hair and only a few are able to get their hair past the shoulders and Keep it there for any length of time. As for natural many of us don't know how to deal with are hair without chemicals in it and there is a learning curve and even when we do it takes a lot of time for some which is why they keep there hair shoulder length. So even today with the progress made many Black women fall short of the social ideal of beauty and having the whole package and until that changes YES Hair Will Matter!

I have very thick 4c hair like a lion🦁 lol 😂

who said i dont like them? im being sarcastic if you didnt realize, the real elephant in the room is, do bw feel they look better with knock off hair and eyes, this hair issue never has been about what bm think.

@6:30 They forgot to mention Naomi Campbell....

which they do! I assume you mean Asians and there is the practice of surgery to make the eyes look round. Obviously not everybody does that, which is a good thing, you should only do, what makes you feel comfortable with yourself. Still the image of beauty has become mainly white world wide. Therefore many people try to adapt to it. But there are so many different kinds of beauty! All the different body sizes, the different races are beautiful. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Interesting how they equate African American females straightening their hair to trying to be white. That is unfathomable to me, especially considering all the other nationalities with straight hair too who aren't European. Nonetheless, I like open discussions like this.

but i have black girl friends who obsess about their weght to the point of drinking diet sodas and red bull all day. There is definetly more pressure on black women...but nobody is perfect.

Lol i never understood the big deal with hair. A hot woman is a hot woman doesnt matter the texture of her hair.

The black women who hold on to the relaxer even though their hair is damaged are the worse. I can't with them. I have family members like that...they SWEAR that their hair is long and healthy.

This is pointless because the whole ideal of good hair vs. white hair came from racism.(Some)White people wanted us to hate everything about ourselves,even today still.I love that sista hair in the middle.

If you put it on and take it off, its a accessory. So let it go. You are not the spokesperson for black women and their hair.

We have the Best Hair or atleast I do...I have relaxed,dyed and flat ironed my hair in one sitting and didnt lose a strand!

Hair caming acording with steriotipe of etniticy

It seems like they really aren't freely expressing themselves, so some great points about racial stigmas and womanist issues really aren't properly addressed and highlighted. Although they are touching upon the issues, it is just barely. They seem afraid to delve into one single subject and seem too eager to keep adding additional points of reference for a single question. Where is the discussion? We want passion y'all

Asian ppl have the best hair snm

what do you mean you got lost

talk about holding back....this is a missed opportunity here

Some white and black women shouldn't dye there hair blond, I honestly think as you age blond hair can make you look older.

Im spanish and white and I dont have lice this is a stupid comment.

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It's not as easy to duplicate a natural Afro as it is to duplicate European or Asian hair therefore in a way black woman don't have the option to wear a "natural" Afro weave. You are very one-sided.

lmao

For me Black women under weaves wigs and braids is really sad. Wearing fake hair is a warning of deeper issues hidden. Fake hair is what it is, fake. What does "Keeping It Real" mean when she has expensive plastic strapped to her head... and proud of it?

what

There is no reasoning with this fool. He is very much set on us black women that we hate ourselves for wearing weave. He came up with all that from just changing hair.

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White girls have lices and black women hair are very thick and nice