Hearthstone Player Rates INSANE YuGiOh! Cards 

yeah i was impressed

i still not understand that card hahahaha

Had me floored that he managed to understand that convoluted mess without a problem, then goes playing HS again and somehow forgets basic reading comprehension for 10 minutes at a time.

I understood it the first time I read it, but had no idea how I would use it in a deck

I mean, it's only really hard to understand on your first read. Once you realize you're just chaining cards that only have 1 thing in common it becomes a lot easier.

I felt personally attacked when he understood the card just by reading it

Wait so does the card banish 2 cards and add 1 to hand? Cause it reads like you're just vanishing 2 cards of choice

@@forestskilbred9461 Yes, you banish two monster cards (with some restrictions) One from hand and one from deck and add a third monster to your hand from deck(With some restrictions)

@@forestskilbred9461im not a yugioh player but i believe its just fetching the thing from deck and then saying that, that card has been banished from the deck? so two cards are technically banished but the card from deck is in your hand after it resolves, i have no idea why yugioh cards are worded so confusingly, just rereading to double check for this comment is giving me a headache

@@ethanhealy453 The issue with the wording on the cards really it's restriction saying only one of those factors can be in common in the "middle" card. you have to know what your deck can work with alongside the card before going in moreso than many other searching cards because it essentially lets you search any monster if you fit the conditions it asks for. when it comes to generic card draw and consistency boosting in Yugioh, it has weird locks to it. Banish one from the hand, to banish one from the deck, to add the 3rd to hand. the one in the deck has to have exactly one trait that works with the other two, no more, no less

Is not that hard. Get rid of one of your cards. Look for another that shares one and only one thing with It. Draw It. If you want, repeat the process with the card you drew. So a tutor, wich 2 steps to allow you to lessen the requirement? Yesh is great.

@@eldunae922 I don't think the second banish/search is optional. Unless you can "fail to find" on the second search like in MtG?

@@TheSplunger nop. if you would fail to find, you can't even activate the card

@@eldunae922 That's not how Small World works. You have to reveal a "bridge", the first card you reveal from the deck always gets banished face-down. You cannot just add the first card you reveal.

@@eldunae922 that's not how it works. Not so easy after all

I'm mostly confused on how it sets up the Mekk-Knights, cuz it blocks a zone you could summon a Mekk-Knight into, and I'm pretty sure the Links don't require a Column

@@rescuerex7031 You use it to make a link, Almiraj, and put that into the extra monster zone. Now the Mekk can go into the column that the Link (plus one other card) is in.

@@rescuerex7031 while there are ways to get it off the ground, for example, making a link monster or specifically girsu, the orcust mekk-knight, it's mostly a going-second engine because as soon as your opponent has either a monster or spell/trap in any zone, ann you have to do is set a spell/trap in the samle column and you're good to go.

what a ridiculously elaborate explaination for a yt comment, have my upvote!

The simplest YGO card

honestly, six sense can be unbanned at 3 at current stage because the meta has become some absurd where 1 or 2 card can literally win or combo

Well you roll 7 on average so not that bad, right?

​@@deviltrigger02that fact makes the card even more broken if anything. Theyll just draw into handtraps and their board goes from counterable to a complete lockdown

Snipe Hunter also wants a word, though people have reevaluated the card as being awful from a modern lens it was a meta staple for YEARS.

Sixth sense might be too slow currently. Don't forget it's a trap

if a yugioh card doesnt have 5 different effects with at least 2 of them being negates its not worth looking at.

@@uteriel282 Hi, I'm new to the game, tell me, is Last Will good? I keep hearing this "painful choice" card is good, but it seems so bad to me. Plz explain if I'm right or wrong. /s

@@najawin8348 painful choice gain value by what you dump to the graveyard, what putting in the hand is just a bonus. one of the example by just activating 1 painful choice during the old age: 3x temple of the kings 2x makyura show to the opponent garuantee you activate trap from hand that turn, 5 cards stack to the grave, which unlocks a lot of trap that draw cards, and making pre-errata exchange of the spirits when your opponent graveyard has 0 cards possible at turn 1. yugioh also got lots of graveyard synergy cards where you pick 5 of the cards that dump to the graveyard of your choice can be good. Also the reason why pre-errata future fusion banned once.

​@@najawin8348Yes, both are good. Really good. Painful choice is made for a specific breed of decks, e.g. the polarizing tearlaments, a group of cards that if sent to the gy read "start your combo". If I reveal 3 or 4 of them, which do you give me? Doesn't matter to me, I'm playing already. Last will is less of a one-card-combo, but has the all-powerful generic special summon from deck: say your deck needs a specific unsearchable monster (let's say "cannon soldier" for a juicy FTK), you play last will and if you use any of your monsters for a link, synchro, you tribute it or pop it, there you go. There is a reason they are banned, it's not that there are no archetype cards that do something similar (that too...), but that they have no restrictions at all, they trivialize getting to cards that were not supposed to be that much available

@@najawin8348 Painful choice is busted because you get to send 4 cards from your deck to the grave and your opponent chooses one of the 5 revealed cards to add to your hand. Basicaly you can trigger 4 graveeffects and get another card into your hand

Thank you someone said it. It was ABSOLUTELY busted in early yugioh until chaos stuff came up. You had no interaction with the graveyard until then really minus monster reborn/call of the haunted revivals. Your hand was your main resource and the games were slow.

Yeah this card should be the example for a "Win more" card. Once you are ahead and have this card, There is no comeback

Phantom of Chaos has also proven to be a good card in Edison Format as well. Basically you set up your grave with Dragons or Vayu stuff, then banish Sky Scourge Norleras to send the entire board and hands to the grave. Then you draw 1 and pop off with your set up graveyard effects.

What 2 cards?

@@jon_bone I believe those would be Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom and Tyrant Neptune. Venom is a fusion that can copy effects of a monster in the grave for a turn, and Neptune is a Reptile-type Maju Garzett that also copies the effects of one of the monsters tributed for it's summon indefinitely. In their cases the main example I know of for why they got banned was copying Independent Nightingale, which is a monster that's pretty strong but only at high investment, but it's effects are busted when you don't have to work for them; It's a level 1 fusion and gains levels based on investment, but both gains 500 atk per level and can burn opponent for it's level *500 once per turn, and it's unaffected by card effects. By itself it's small unless you sink everything into it, but you can summon it easy with Instant Fusion, and Starving Venom is level 8 (so +4000 ATK, Unaffected, and 4000 burn) and can be made pretty easily allowing for an ftk by summoning it twice to burn for 8k, while Neptune is level 10 so it's the biggest chungus who's unaffected by everything and burns 5k per turn.

Because Stun has never been the best deck in the game while decks using Soul Exchange like Perfect Circle has. From how Stevie has been rating these cards, T1 = good, T2 & rogue = bad

@@Goonjie Are Dragons not T1 in Edison? I guess maybe not Dark Dragon specifically, but it's really riffs on the same deck.

@@Goonjie Stun has never been the best but Mystic mine is arguably one of the strongest cards ever printed. His card analysis is just terrible lmao, no need to sugar coat

​@Goonjie Vanity's was a really good card in monarch which was a tiered deck.

@@TheMansterTruck Was good in Monarchs and Drytron. Both being tier 1 for their time.

Psychic end punisher isn’t that hard to comprehend tbh. Though I can’t say the same for heavenly prison.

Psychic end punisher is easy to comprehend what

@@chiconico9738 They're talking about the artwork. He was saying Fenrir's art is unrecognizable as anything IRL, so the comment was that Prison or PEP artwork would be a literal "wtf is that" moment.

Heavenly Prison is at least internationally wtf art.

At the end of the day, Yugioh is a game about winning. Same goes for Hearthstone.

Well yeah. What else does a good card do? Lose you the game?

​@@JoeLikesBlueself destruct button, someone topped Adachi cs 2019 with 150+ players with Razor burn self destruct button, and also 200+ man tournament in China, with ps5 prize, during eldlith and drytron format. So yeah, it is still depends on the format, if it slow, prison deck is popular then self destruct button deck will be shows up again.

Alternatively, if the card doesn't stop your opponent from playing the game, it's not good.

Self-destruct button is strong because the alternative is losing a game.

Yeah I have no clue why he said it was bad and compared to soul exchange is somehow good?? Like what???

Yeah and it's still played in cyberse decks as a backup "oh shit I got interrupted" plan B

Yeah it's a meta card, just not nearly as good as people thought he was when he was showing up on top lists. Also good if you have a lot of 1 card combos and most of your deck are hand traps. Not sure what Stevie's criteria for good/bad is cuz Phantom of Chaos was literally meta back in the days too for the reason he stated himself. It was also used in every deck that ran any given Chaos cards or DAD cuz they all had really good effects.

heatsoul before the firewall stuff was soo bad, you could do so much more with just circular and the disciple line, in the firewall build its a combo piece i guess

@@monkeylemur Yeah, idk what he was on about with Phantom of Chaos either... Oh, a DAD is in my graveyard, welp, guess who is popping some cards today.

*sigh* The card does not require your opponent to activate 10 cards/effects, it also counts your cards/effects. It doesn't make the card good because it lacks something every modern good card needs, especially traps, which is: It needs to be easily searchable. I would still argue that the card is decent. It isn't gutter trash.

The card has the potential to be very good in a future format. Imagine in Game 2/3, you tech this card going first, and you set up a playline that allows you to full combo on your opponent's turn, you could probably fulfill 6 to 8 activations of this effect alone. Heck, in Master Duel, if you're fighting Tear/Kashtira/Bystials, you may be able to activate 10 cards without any interaction from your opponent whatsoever. The biggest issue being, it's a winmore card when played like that. You probably have the means to drain all the resources from your opponent from a Turn 1 combo. Giving them access to Quickplay Spells so you can possible activate a potential Boardwipe is something that would already have been constructed from with an end board that probably doesn't want to include a non-searachable trap. The right deck needs to come along to use it and make it look super busted with extremely high consistency. Otherwise, it would probably be better to run an alternative like an Extender or Counter.

Its just worse torrential tribute

@@NamePending9 More like a one sided Black Rose Dragon with a condition.

Can't you special summon it from your hand or am I misunderstanding how the card works?

There's also a metric fuck ton of cards that just generate tokens so just getting one for free by playing a specific tribe isn't that special. In YGO it's a free extra tribute which sounds absolutely insane. And I haven't even played since I was a kid eating cards on the playground.

@@Taoru11I mean fair but how many token are cards in your deck and let u thin your deck

@@darkdemonangel16 To be honest I wasn't even considering that you can put 4 into your deck and thin it out over a few turns. Haven't played MTG in a while. Patches supremacy it is then.

@@Taoru11 It wouldn't be over a few turns. You summon one pirate, all the patches in your deck jump to the field.

@@MrShukaku1991 I was going to comment about legendary rule but who cares if it still thins your deck.

I was always convinced Ipiria was a much older card than 2019, I thought it vibed like, early 2000s? Considering it was a card shown relatively early in the anime

I am also thinking about stuff that sends stuff to the gy. you can easily yeet stuff from ED to gy, seems werd nobody has done anything busted with it.

I mean, that's an unofficial format that I'd literally never heard of until today, so I don't really understand why that matters

​@@ShadowmancerLord It's a historical format that Konami recently held officially santioned national tournaments for, triple phantom of chaos was in the European winner's deck. And it is probably the most popular retro format currently.

@@ElusiveMirror No, Konami has a Time Wizard minor format, of which Edison is a potential variant. And it's one of five alt formats they introduced at the same time. Doesnt really mean much. "Most popular retro format" is meaningless because how many people are playing retro formats to start with? If it's anything like, say, Hearthstone, the answer is likely sub-1% of the community

Another thing to note is that Phantom of Chaos has seen a lot of play in OTK decks.

The yugioh ban, limited, and semi limited list get regularly changed and new cards are constantly being added so sometimes old cards return to the meta.

Yeah saying Phantom of Chaos was bad is just wrong. Wasn't a staple but definitely respectable in anything with a Chaos theme, pretty big in Lightsworn, too.

Also used in Dark Dragon in Edison to this day.

Yeah, calling Phantom of Chaos bad was definitly wrong. The card is (or rather, was) insane in the right deck. It even won the big edison Tournament at the last YCS

not to mention stuff like the Sky Scourges.

Agreed. And Steve said dragoon was really bad. I truly question his skill on yugioh.

Basically it's Niberu but with a potentially stronger payoff but at the cost of being significantly harder to play.

Summed up if you're hoping you're finished will help you then you don't understand deck building and are already screwed by the time you can use it when there's a hell of a lot of better options

I thought you could special summon it from your hand... I know Yu-Gi-Oh players don't read but maybe we would if Konami printed effects that made sense

I know I'm late to the party but yeah, Soul Exchange would be non-ideal in today's metagame but we now have a better, more limited-use version in *The Monarchs Stormforth* which is a quick-play, does not target and affects monster that are unaffected by card effects since it _"technically"_ targets a player.

@@aghadlarhen9397 Oh, it's been a while since I read Stormforth. I thought it targeted and the main advantage was that it was quickplay. The more you know.

Everybody who has ever played Catan hates this fact

@@marmics96 lul that’s actually how I memorized it, so I’m gonna have to agree with you

Mean, medain and mode are all 7!

​@@marmics96 It's the most common except when the robber got stuck on my Brick hex and then it becomes rarer than a 12

mid 2011 in TCG but yea

Stevie has no clue when any of these cards came out? Robbin’ Goblin came out in Metal Raiders in 2002

To be fair Stevie’s not who you go to if you want a great picture of these details but they’ve done a few of them now so why stop.

​@@U1TR4F0RCEStevie has two braincells

he streamed him playing yugioh duels, he had a dragonmaid deck. honestly he did pretty well for someone who has no idea of the game playing dragonmaids. chat was an ass there though

@@galmenz6118 i mean yu gi oh players are usually a-holes to new players spamming "NOOOOOO, why did you do that?" and stuff like a new player would know what it did wrong.

​@@eminiclamWhat's worse is that they recommend a mid ass deck or a deck that's super long, combo convoluted, which is not beginners friendly at. Ironically, a Blue-Eyes deck that have some Synchro, XYZ and Link is pretty decent for a new player. It's iconic, but not too complicated that both new players wouldn't understand.

Squadron Hawk has evasion. But Patches triggers off of any pirate card and just goes to the board instead of the hand... But it's Legendary. And random 1/1s with no abilities are a lot worse in magic because the defender chooses blocks and damage is reset per turn. So I still think Squawks are better.

I follow yugioh regularly and I didn't understand how the card worked for the longest time. 🤣🤣🤣 I understood it searched but that was about it

Even without specific combos, having an extra monster on the field to use as material to summon with or to take hits from big beefy boys instead of your lifepoints, all for no card cost at all whatsoever, is going to be more beneficial than it is hurtful on average. (Maybe opponent is running something that takes advantage of enemies killed or # of cards on the board)

Zushin the Gigant let me intruduce myself

Final Countdown was a tiered deck at one point, I don't think that's the example you want to use.

Zushin is better since he’s never been competitive

mystic mine is upgraded version of final countdown deck

@@deviltrigger02 That's not exactly true for the very reason that there was usually two mystic mine decks, one which was a final countdown deck and the other which is mystic mine burn.

Yep, it's great in a salmangreat deck.

Wait, it appeared in the anime?

@@ItsmisterX yeah, yugioh duel monsters season 3 during the virtual world/noah arc. The executive that yugi dueled used a sort of half water, half reptile deck based around spamming out a bunch of copies of his level 7 & 8 water/reptiles boss monsters - neither of which we have irl yet.

Huh? Norealis is def not meta at ALL.

That’s just wrong. It was a decent boardbreaker before the rest of the Kashtira cards got released and didnt warp anything around itself.

@@sugar5374 it’s a free special summon for nearly every deck

Technically since PHHY was released, for the few months between DABL and PHHY it was like, a fine staple but not metawarping.

the god'sdate are a bit weird because they released earlier but those versions werent actually legal ot play.

@@Teixas666 Sure

No one played it, it was cope even back then. People were bored of the format and tried out weird stuff to be spicy

I mean its not like hearthstone is any stranger to cards that generate lots of tokens as well, even some pretty efficiently costed ones nowadays where you're not paying that much for those 1/1s. Its not really the getting a token being that much more valuable in Hearthstone that makes Patches good. And while the deck thinning is definitely an upside Patches has I think its importance really tends to get overplayed, its more of an incidental benefit it also has, if Patches had a line of text that says your deck size is 31 so it effectively wasn't thinning your deck compared to just not having Patches in your deck at all I honestly don't think it would have actually changed how much Patches was played at all. At the end of the day the simple reason Patches was strong was it was a card that gave you something for nothing, so to that end Gitixian Probe is actually probably a better comparison than the likes of other token generation cards. The kinds of decks that played Patches already wanting to have a pirate hit the board on turn 1 or 2 (or in Patches' prime just generally wanted any minions to be hitting the board on turn 1 and the existence of Patches pushed the 1 drop pirates ahead of the other 1 drops). For those decks adding Patches to your deck means you just get an extra 1/1 on the board at the cost of no card draw and no mana spent for doing something they were already doing regardless. A 1/1s not worth that much in an of itself but when it didn't cost you anything there's no reason not to play it, token generation cards don't really compare you are still (usually) spending mana and a card draw to get that card even if it is super efficiently costed and giving you those 1/1s at above rate. Patches just comes in totally free alongside another card you were already playing in your deck and were thus presumably already willing to pay for as is. Its strong in the same way a 0 mana creature that draws a card would be strong in just about any game, even if it doesn't do much the fact its doing something for basically nothing would make it a card you have to justify not including in any deck that could. Patches' only cost is you can draw it at which point yeah it absolutely is a bad card when that happens no way around it, but the odds are favorable enough in the kinds of decks that run it that the benefit of getting something for nothing in a majority of games is worth the small percentage of games you draw a bad card. So to that end yeah Magic's different starting hand size and mulligan rules are probably the most relevant fact to evaluating a hypothetical mtg Patches and yeah, both of those work against it. But there's also magic's larger deck size, which actually works in magic's favour if you still have him as a one of. The fact you can go up to 4 and then the legend rule gets weird and can bump it back down to unfavorable compared to Hearthstone. At the end of the day though its hard to see how (usually) getting something for nothing isn't good in just about any game

phnatom was also the precursor is what would become a problematic type of effect : "Effect copying from GY" which led to some cards getting banned over potential abuse and some other to have their future design space limited

Also pretty sure Novice Enginner saw play in 2018 with Paladin OTK decks.

And Ipira is also played for the effect and the level. Free draw off of Gigantic is pretty nice.

I think Kashtira monsters are like alien warriors???

It turns out, when you actually try to read and comprehend, figuring out it's use will soon follow. Who would have thought?

@@luigifan4585 True, though Small World is a card within Yu-Gi-Oh as a card game that is well known for being more difficult to understand than other cards. There's even a whole website guessing game made just for this single card.

The time and braincells he has saved by playing Hearthstone have been resting, multiplying, and growing more powerful since they aren't being taxed or used for long periods at a time.

Based on my understanding of the card, isn't this a great disruptor for combo decks? Let's face it, even with how fast Yu-Gi-Oh is, 10 card effects on a combo deck can't make you a great board. This can become a turn 0 combo stopper that blows away their entire field if they still want to continue their combo.

@@lostplushii All you need is one negate. Also, being a trap card means you can't really use it going second and it can be blasted by a card effect, so you don't even need a negate.

​@@lostplushiia Part of Ygo Decks Put Negates Mid Combo,and theres cards that Can destroy it without Costs

@@lostplushii It’s a disruption trap card that can’t be activated from hand so it is useless if you’re going second. If you’re going first you’d rather have something like Torrential Tribute so you can disrupt your opponent at the best time rather than have that restriction which gives your opponent time to summon a monster which can just negate the effect of You’re Finished when you are finally able to activate it.

Like, Goat? And it sees play in Edison? But this is why it's so frustrating to talk about whether a card is "good" or not. In what context? Soul exchange is garbage in the current state of the game, but it's crazy in older eras. Phantom of Chaos actually _does_ see play in Edison, and Robbin Goblin did see some very fringe play waaaaaaayyyyyyyy back in the day iirc. Just saying "oh, it's bad", ignores all this nuance because these cards, 9 times out of 10, aren't just good or bad in a vacuum. They're only good or bad in a context of other cards. And unless you specify that context it's meaningless.

soul exchange was used in monarch decks for a long time untill stormforth came out.

Literally any deck running tribute summons would run Soul Exchange because it is a ton of advantage at the cost of your battle phase. In modern games, yes the card is doodoo since either Stormforth exists or decks work without it or have better versions (Floo and Unexplored Winds).

I mean, Rarran does the same with HS

Any examples?

@@drewpeacock9087 He's wrong about Phantom of Chaos, for instance, it sees play in Edison.

Heatsoul. Heatsould is a good card its not insane but its a good card

And ipiria is not a good card its q normal summon upstart that is not great

fableds are perfectly fine with being discarded for cost i mean granted, then you're playing fableds when you could be playing dark worlds and they _still_ don't want to get stuck with such an all-or-nothing discard outlet, but, y'know

​@@hi-i-am-atanWhen I was starting Yu-Gi-Oh I used Guarded Treasure in my Fabled deck, my little head was like "wait, I can trigger all my in hand monsters effects AND draw 2 cards every turn?! Even now?!" and then that shit got blown up by a MST

Oh, for some reason I missed the "Master Duel" part in his statement and thought he had come across the classic of Michael from Achievement Hunter getting Exodia'd on turn 1 in Legacy of the Duelist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cp4fxe75810.html

The problem with the card is that at the point you can activate this your opponent will have a negate up, make access code or can run over it. Also it is really bad against backrow removal.

There's just some many better options instead