How Do I Escalate Without Giving My Power Away? 

Bernardo Aaron Pina Erik The Electric approve

you wanted to say that "it's actually lit"

stealth797 Professor Valentine. Dr. V.

@yeahyeahblabla someguy I just laugh when people think these jacked good-looking dudes all slay pussy left and right. A lot of time you can throw a girl at them and have her grinding on them dying to suck their cock and they can’t accept it or find some other way to chode out of it. The people who don’t get how insanely common it is for these good-looking dudes to drop the ball tend to either be: 1) Naturals who didn’t drop the ball a lot themselves so they can’t really relate to the notion that a girl could be giving you ioi’s and you DON’T try to fuck her or believe she wants to fuck you especially if they rolled with an alpha pack like themselves who all were getting laid (or at least bragging/acting like they do and glossing over when the girl is ugly etc like guys often do lol) so they just kind of assume all the other good-looking rich etc dudes were doing the same… or 2) AFCs who never approach or talk to girls or learn game and just listen to the Hollywood stereotypes and blue-pill conditioning because they never go out and collect the data for themselves because it’s scary and painful to go down this journey and a lot easier to just believe everyone else is slaying based on attributes you were unfairly not dealt in your genetics (perfect excuse to never really try, and break all the rules like Tyler and the rest of us who don’t turn heads when we walk into a room). This is also why I say looks are great, they get you some free ioi’s and opens here and there. If you don’t have game, you’ll still fuck it up…so focus on game above all else. Society beats us over the head with how we aren't good enough "as-is" so guys have all these fucked up confidence issues. This is again why I say looks don't really matter infield, 'cause every night out you can see these tall jacked good-looking dudes with shitty internals going home alone because even when a girl DOES like them they have trouble accepting and embracing that and taking it somewhere because they don't believe they're "good enough"…even if they LOOK good they feel like they don't have enough money, or if they have money and look good they feel like they aren't tall enough, etc etc it's all bullshit designed to weed out the guys who give no fucks from the guys who will listen to what society tells them about how to feel about themselves…and of course it drives the whole consumerism culture we live in, 'cause that guy can feel good about himself if he just buys the latest brand name product of such and such, at least for a few weeks, until the newer version comes out and then only LOSERS still use that OLD version. Vicious cycle. My problem with typical Red Pill method of “just get jacked“ is that it's still playing inside society's value system. Even if they get jacked so they can finally feel good about themselves, that's a value system that society put on them so no matter how good they do 1) there will ALWAYS be a better looking guy than them out there, so they can never feel like "the best" because someone will ALWAYS have another inch on their biceps or a more expensive suit etc, and 2) they're still determining their self-worth based on other people's values. That's why I stress go to the gym, sure, but do it for yourself and your own health, not because you think it'll get you girls because as soon as you're doing it "to get girls" you're coming from the wrong frame and starting to build shitty internal wiring.

yeahyeahblabla someguy yeah u havent done game so long have U:(

@yeahyeahblabla someguy Girls aren’t going “well this guy is fun, but he has 16% bodyfat and this other guy has 14% bodyfat, so I’m going to bang the 14%.” I’m not saying there aren’t health benefits and that we haven’t been socially conditioned to feel better if we achieve “better” looks (by our socially conditioned standard). But that’s situational confidence tied to an external (because every time you look in a mirror and say “I am getting in shape so I have more value!!” you are subscribing deeper and deeper into the notion that your value is tied to being in shape) and that “situation” can be taken away or devalued, just like tying your confidence to drinking booze or wearing your favorite shirt or your new pair of shoes etc. Again I don’t think that’s a very controversial statement, it’s simply logical. The truth is a lot of these guys who are super into LMS develop complexes. Like if they have a layer a fat on their stomach they feel ashamed about it even though no one can tell the difference when they’re dressed. This is womanly behavior and is straight up disruptive for a man. Part of why my looks don’t phase me is that I don’t value them. ie - in shape or not, I’m still awesome in my mind…my weight doesn’t define my value anymore than what color of bed-sheets I have does. So I’m as confident with a bit of chub as I am in shape. To me, my value is in my beliefs and my actions…so as long as I’m congruent in my beliefs and I take right action, I see myself as high-value. But when you subscribe to an entire value system based around looks, and then you eat a burger instead of a chicken breast before you go out, you feel like everyone can TELL, and girls will like you LESS, because in your value system, you aren’t high value anymore. Same thing with money, clothing style, what car you drive, where you live, your race, your height, etc. etc. You determine your own value system, and when your frame is strong other people will fall into your value system. This is why if you saw Donald Trump on the street objectively, you’d laugh at the comb-over’ed angry fat little man. But when you’re in his office, playing by HIS value system, you shit your pants when he bitches out your business performance. His frame is strong and you’re using his value system to determine your worth. Part of why we tell newbies to start grooming better and dressing better and going to hit the gym and shit is that we know they don’t have their own value system yet… their value system is society’s value system that’s been socially conditioned into them since birth. We know that it’ll take a while and a lot of mind-blowing reference experience before they start to believe that they can determine their own values, so until that happens, we encourage them to at least do better within the value system they currently subscribe to because, like the body-builder who achieves his perfect weight/musculature and is thus high-value in his value system, he will see himself as higher value and have more confidence. Once he gets good with girls and starts experimenting with going out dressed sloppy, going out in ridiculous outfits, forgetting to get a haircut, going out when he’s got an acne breakout, going out when he’s gained a few pounds, etc., but he’s built himself a solid set of game skills and applies them…he slowly starts gaining reference experience that he does just as well when he’s at 16% body-fat instead of 12%, and slowly over time he starts to remove those things from his value system. With girls, what you feel she feels. So if you fully 100% believe that a high-value man is someone who has a million dollars, that’s what she’ll believe, because you’ll sub-communicate it to her, and women ping off the world around them to determine their value system (“omg what does everyone think of my new shoes??”). P.S. surf the bodybuilding.com forums Misc and Relationship sections and read posts by the Forever Aloners. Fucktons of guys who look better than any of us commenters here will ever look in our lives, who can’t get girls. Some of them make a shitload of money too. There are guys there who are like “man at 8% body fat I wasn’t getting looks from any girls. But at 7% wow they all love me!!!”. Do you really think girls all over can tell the difference between 7 and 8 % bodyfat? And suddenly the 1% difference makes their ginas all tingle? Or do you think maybe the guys didn’t like themselves at 8% so they convinced themselves there were no looks coming their way and talked themselves out of it the way an AFC will talk himself out of noticing a girl’s IOI’s because he doesn’t think he’s attractive enough to get them, and when he likes himself more his reticular activation system picks up on the signals more and believes he deserves them?

@yeahyeahblabla someguy Women will say they look for traits like height for example, but they look for those traits because those traits are external indicators that the guy probably has attractive alpha qualities, not because those traits are, themselves, inherently attractive. All pickup does is show guys how to purposely demonstrate having those attractive alpha qualities that tall/rich/famous also indicate a guy probably has. Any poor fat short guy with a hot girl, and any tall rich good-looking dude who doesn’t get laid when he goes out, demonstrate that those traits are not objectively superior because they’re not consistent and those situations happen all the time. If those things were consistent then girls would all have pics of Ronnie Coleman in their locker at school. When something isn’t consistent you have to drill further into “why does this sometimes work but sometimes NOT work? Why do girls want to fuck Tom Cruise but not Bill Gates? Why can 5’9″ ugly balding ginger Tyler take girls off taller better looking dudes in a club? Girls should be walking past them to go hit on the tall jacked rich guy up the street.” You keep drilling into why something sometimes does and sometimes doesn’t work until you find something that IS a consistent principle, like: “dominance is alpha/attractive” which is true whether the guy is tall or short, rich or poor, etc. That’s a consistent principle and a lot of PUA teaching is built off that consistent principle. All PUA is doing is teaching guys to demonstrate that consistent principle quickly in the interaction. The tall guy is LIKELY to be dominant, so she’ll check him out over the short guy, but if the short guy steps up and actively demonstrates dominance and the tall guy is a chode, the short guy gets the attraction because “dominance is alpha/attractive” is a consistent principle.

This opener is killing your gains

Hahahaha yes

"I'm not using fake weights"

Haha

*You mean he uses fake weights?*

Todd’s stuff is legendary. But pick your self up other mentors as well and begin to complete the bigger puzzle that is woman with pieces which you don’t have. Also check out Max , Tyler RSD Coach Corey Wayne Alexander Grace And Charisma On Command

The first and only girl I've been with sexually, I didn't really care about her in a romantic way. I was just having fun with her and stuff. Until one day she asked "what are we" -- that's when I realized she submitted to me. But I can't imagine when you really like her, guess that's why they say to try and spin plates. Like I always tell my brother, girls have to hold back on opening their legs and men have to hold back on opening their hearts 🤣😭

oh no, thats how toxic relationships are, good luck

well it is one way to play. despite his opinion on compliments giving away power there is an approach called mode one where you go complete direct and honest. it is begging for you to be shit tested and you need balls of steel and iron clad frame control and congruence for it to work but it does work.personally i am a sarcastic asshole anyway so i find push pull more fun.

I think that's the real key to game. Understanding what to say and do in each situation. It's harder to teach than people give credit for.

@Chad Warden his intelligence isnt mad

Practice. It's all practice

Same bro. They end up calling me weird. Hard to know when to pull

Hell yes Morty

They're so picky that they'll always find something wrong with what you're doing. That's the whole issue. I'm not single anymore but when I was it was fucking painful and depressing.

@@don1041 there's no real 'how to' on any of this stuff i think. You're just lucky enough to be a person who knows how to go about getting what they want and more luckily succeeding more often than not.

@@don1041 even the most basic guides tell you never bring up politics or religion on the first date. unless you are discussing how hot you think elizabeth warren is then how is this helping build sexual tension?

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That's what he's doing on this channel lol

No i meant more smaller questions like the last one in one video.

Collect underpants ? Profit

Robert If you consent to sex on certain conditions that don’t actually exist, you did not actually consent to the sex act (because your conditions were not met). Therefore, the act is nonconsensual. What do we call nonconsensual sex?

Ron Comment: “lie 100% of the time” Your reply: “You don’t go around lying” What are we talking about here, brother? 😂

I've personally ran into this issue myself. Learn how to integrate pickup into your schedule in a way so that it doesn't take up extra time / effort. Are there any opportunities for you to casually pickup at work / college that take no time out of your day? Any opportunities to pickup through your hobbies?

Military mindset. Tough it out. If you want it bad enough, you'll do anything to get it.

Just say "hey it was really nice meeting you, but I need to catch up with my friends now. Have a fun night" and leave

Same here bro, as soon as I’m attracted to I girl I’m talking to it all goes down hill. I’d be so good at picking up girls that I’m not attracted to lol

Don't

Good question

yeah great question that is kind of ignored even by todd. he says basically ignore them but its not that easy, especially since some of them can use some pretty advanced "destabilising" techniques. they know right away what youre trying to do and they can for example pretend to be your friend then continue to make fun of you in a subtle way or lead you away from the girl, or lead her away from you. they can throw "curveballs" like asking questions to you that are impossible to answer and will make you sound stupid whatever you say etc many things like this i see it all the time. its a topic pretty much ignored by the entire pua community. there are also very few videos on how to amog, and how to deal with amoggers. i mean i dont disagree that the best thing is probably to avoid getting into an amog-situation, but its not always so easy, douchy amogs (or wannabe amogs) of different ages and skill are everywhere these days, and especially hard if the amog is part of the group of her friends.

Yeah as a general rule the less reactive man wins but that doesn't always work depending on the situation.

@@airlopez21 yes i agree but you have to say or do something at least, if the guy is right there next to you it can be very difficult if not outright weird to pretend that he isnt there

What is meant by AMOGS?

23yo. That was me 11years ago i was running around doing silly openers at the time. You guys have much better materials and routines at this day and age so just go out and take action What kinda styles really depends on your true personality

Yes.

Focus on grades son, this time won't return trust me.

Yin

text game is different from in person game

Get back at it. Is the only way.

This could be diet related a.k.a if you eat crap you feel like crap. And may be due to other lifestyle choices. Sleeping patterns etc

Dopamine

@@optispek9873 how would you recommend to naturally increase dopamine?

Get back out there and swing the bat. Get the rep is in young blood

Be honest.. and start joking constantly.. when you miss, you can always say I was just joking/teasing... it works. But you have to be joking and teasing a lot. Push poll works a lot especially when you miss it doesn’t seem like a big miss

Spirals by x-ray LSA

Peedinkus they also have your paycheck

Blue BMW Hahahaha

Blue BMW I am self-employed, I'm a hundred-aire.

lmao

He has a whole video that discusses an alpha male strategy called disqualification which is escalation in disguise.

Wait… Now that I think about it I feel like my energy going in to the conversation wasn’t amped up enough because I went in with higher energy but could it have been that I wasn’t too high energy?

You gotta try and match their energy. After the first okay, I would have leaned back in the chair, and given her a few seconds of silence. Then point out her attitude in a disinterested way, like "you not in the mood for talking or something?" This gives her the opportunity to say a 1 word answer, or open up. If she opens up, have a real conversation. If she doesn't, then move on cuz she's in f off mode.

Gonzalo Enrique I see I’ll keep that in mind

Roshes aii probably not good looking enough

@@billybazzi4536 im actually a good looking guy but somehow i always mess it up, and i triedd push pull and all that stuff for attraction it dosent work only one that works for me is disqualification and only sometimes

Base on your first and second comment you have two problems. 1.You're using pick up attraction techniques to get result rather then expressing yourself. What attract the girl are your sub communications and your personality, techniques are their to bring notice things. The techniques are a extension full you are not button push get a reaction. 2. You're not escalating/ increasing sexual tension. It's your job to move the interaction forward, you can't expect girl to. If your taking girl for 20 mins, you should be thinking about pulling her or moving her situation where sex can happen rather waiting for them make move.

If you dont know what the problem is, get external help. Get a wing to observe what you do. It should be obvious to other people. Try to film it on video if you can, if not get an opinion from other people who know game. But really, to me it sounds like you are not creating sexual tension. Or creating Premise in Todd's words.

OMG that's hilarious. Thanks for the belly laugh.

Nah bro

Nothing to be ashamed bruh.

This dude's example of "push/pull" is actually "negging." It's dickish, and is a major turnoff to most women I know, including me. I recommend following drnerdlove.