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How does the Kang from Quantumania tie into Loki's series? 

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This video looks at how the Quantum Realm Kang fits into the greater narrative of the Loki series. Many thanks to Surf for all his help in brainstorming the ideas that ended up in this vid!
#disneyplus #mcu #marvel #loki #lokiseason2 #sylvie #kang #multiverse #phase5 #quantumania
00:00 - Intro
01:09 - Is there only one Quantum Realm for the multiverse?
03:42 - How does time work in the Quantum Realm?
06:00 - Who is the "variant of myself"?
07:18 - What can Kang's ship do?
08:45 - Who exiled Kang and will we see him again?
09:54 - Visual illustration of the story so far
16:03 - Kang Council's key statements
18:31 - Conclusion

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@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
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@darknessblades
@darknessblades 8 месяцев назад
I think the Threshold they keep talking about is, the length/place in spacetime where other universes can notice a branch from another one. which would be the main way to create bridges between universes. that is why they kept pruning timelines, and with Loki's branch on a branch escape, he might be on a timeline that is slightly in limbo. meaning he is outside the loom's timeline, which allowed him to timeslip at a place where timeslipping should not be possible, as he was improperly inserted back into the timeline, with no set point in space-time.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
​@@darknessbladesOh wow, those are some cool theories. Will be so interesting to see where things head with the final two episodes of Loki season 2!
@duncanharris7976
@duncanharris7976 8 месяцев назад
i absolutely love the theory that the kang council are referring to he who remains instead of quantum realm kang when they say that “exiled one” line. IT MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE!!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I think that fits so well. It's just wild to see it all coming together!
@garlandherrell4410
@garlandherrell4410 8 месяцев назад
I had this theory before that immortis was talking about He Who Remains and the two Loki variants about who killed him and they’re touching the multiverse.
@unculturedswine9984
@unculturedswine9984 8 месяцев назад
Kang literally said he was exiled. HWR wasn't imprisoned at all. How could he be when he was in control of everything? THAT doesn't make any sense unless someone has any logical explanation on how it does make sense
@gabrielgalarza7931
@gabrielgalarza7931 8 месяцев назад
@@unculturedswine9984 I do think that your statement is true I would like to add to it as well, to kind of ponder for a bit lol. At the end of Quantumania the kangs do say that HE was exiled, and also says that THEY are beggining to touch the mutliverse and that THEY will ruin everything that the trio of Kangs have built. I do think that he is referring to the Loki variants as indeed they have let the loom continue to draw in all of those branches and Miss Minutes talks about the timelines branching off and once long enough without overseight and they would eventually create/become bridges into other universes. The TVA then goes and erases the rising branch A.K.A bridge in return erasing the bridge before it becomes critical. So, since Loki, and Sylvie were the ones to have the TVA stop pruning branches, I beleive THAT is what led to the other Kangs being able to now see the 616 universe. Due to having the branches reach the multiverse. Loki Ep.6 HWR also states that he isolated himself, (kind of like how we find out Luke isolates himself in SW VIII) I also beleive that in that movie they do say the term exiled. HWR was indeed in control of everthing, but of only his universe I believe. He mentioned that was afraid of the other Kangs and he was probably scared of losing it to the multiversal war, which is the end and beggining of the new universe. Its's like being in your room without being able to go into any other room due to your parents or siblings ruling that section, and you can only control whats in your room. Marvel is Marvel though i just hope that I was able to be of some help for you. I'm very new to this but seeing the viedo really sparked some theories that I had and I do enjoy how both seasons of Loki have made a positive impact on all of us nerds in the comments LOL!! Much love and have a very good night!
@eghaadam5794
@eghaadam5794 8 месяцев назад
@@gabrielgalarza7931when he said “they beginning to touch the multiverse” i think it’s referring to pym family.
@JulianRog
@JulianRog 8 месяцев назад
I hope the MCU really shows the utter chaos that Kang can create through the Multiverse in Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I suspect you are right...I think it's gonna get nuts really soon!
@TayWay86
@TayWay86 8 месяцев назад
I was disappointed in kang from quantumania. It’s kang the conqueror ffs, he shouldn’t have gone down like that.
@samgill133
@samgill133 8 месяцев назад
@@TayWay86bunch of ants lol
@xdWizzy
@xdWizzy 8 месяцев назад
@@TayWay86 he didnt die dw
@maximumblackness
@maximumblackness 8 месяцев назад
Very interesting
@gingerlegend
@gingerlegend 8 месяцев назад
the theory that kang from quantumania is secretly victor timely is really interesting. it’s like he had a contingency plan for a contingency plan
@Jansenbaker
@Jansenbaker 8 месяцев назад
He meant He Who Remains could be Victor. I think he is because he mentions "I isolated our timeline." "Our" indicates he came from there, and we see Victor Timely there. So maybe the original was simply invited to the fun the other variants were having hanging out with each other, and he learned from them.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Ooops! My apologies, as I didn't mean to say that the Kang from QM was Victor. That was a mistake if I said that. I really apologize for that.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
@@Jansenbaker Correct...that's what I was meaning to say. Thanks for correcting that!
@bizzybrown8372
@bizzybrown8372 8 месяцев назад
It’s going to be hype to see ALIOTH enter through the cracks in reality . I wonder how Marvel will visualize such a grand concept . It has the potential to be so scary and beautiful. Man I’m getting so hype for this massive narrative to play out .
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I can't wait to learn more about Alioth and his origin. Gonna be amazing!
@howveyouben
@howveyouben 8 месяцев назад
It’s important to acknowledge that sometimes the answer is “that’s just how it happened’
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Exactly! Yup, sometimes that's all the answer we're going to get. Well said!
@BarrysBallisticBeats
@BarrysBallisticBeats 8 месяцев назад
That's bugged me since the first time I watched Terminator. The only time I wasn't bothered by it was in Looper
@jamesmiti145
@jamesmiti145 8 месяцев назад
Somehow Palpatine returned
@PlanetApathy
@PlanetApathy 8 месяцев назад
As the resident Kang of this universe, I assure you it’s more effective to see things this way.
@Bullet55NL
@Bullet55NL 8 месяцев назад
Like somehow palpatine returned? No.
@giovannigatti3176
@giovannigatti3176 8 месяцев назад
The fact that you keep updating your multiversal model with the new informations is so cool, Keep up the good work! I really can’t wait for the last two episodes and I hope they explain the whole situation in a good way.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks! Yeah, it's fun to see all the pieces keep coming together slowly. Really excited to see those last few episodes of Loki. Such an amazing season!
@gmjjjones
@gmjjjones 8 месяцев назад
I usually listen to your stuff during runs or work, but coming back to the visual timeline and seeing how much it's changed is quite nice.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks! Yeah I keep improving it as we go along. It's really cool to see everything slowly coming together with the multiverse saga!
@Juxie27
@Juxie27 8 месяцев назад
I have a feeling we’re gonna see this Kang pop up randomly in Kang dynasty as a crowd cheering moment
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I'd definitely be down for that!
@matthewhiggins4704
@matthewhiggins4704 8 месяцев назад
Definitely the best mcu breakdown channel there is. Love watching the videos after each episode drops.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@Transdimensional
@Transdimensional 8 месяцев назад
Your detail with the timelines is just amazing, better explanation then anywhere else on YT!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@thedarkfloyd7517
@thedarkfloyd7517 8 месяцев назад
I think the “sacred timeline” kept all the other Kangs from existing entirely, and they only existed again once He Who Remains was killed. I’m not entirely convinced that they exiled him or that he self exiled, but it’s an interesting theory.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Right! I felt the same way for the longest time. But what changed my mind was that the Kang Council knew about "the exiled one" and they wanted to have been the ones to kill him. If they were all wiped out by HWR as a result of the multiversal war and then all returned when the branches were no longer being pruned, it seems they wouldn't remember him and wouldn't be mad they didn't get to kill him. Instead, it seems they have always been around and HWR just "won" the war by essentially hiding from it. But we'll likely get a firm answer as Loki's season winds down. Can't wait for the next episode to drop!
@thedarkfloyd7517
@thedarkfloyd7517 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U Yea me too. This is getting crazy!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Indeed it is!
@aminalhaq23
@aminalhaq23 8 месяцев назад
I think this was incredibly helpful and I was looking for a video like this for so long! I really hope you continue to do videos like these as more episodes and movies come out because I will be coming back for sure!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for watching and leaving your feedback on the vid. Yes, I will definitely keep doing these vids as the multiverse saga continues along. Can't wait for the Loki finale to drop and then to see where things go from there!
@nerd5948
@nerd5948 8 месяцев назад
Loving your videos
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@Intermission_guy
@Intermission_guy 8 месяцев назад
Love the videos man thanks for keeping us all up to date on everything MCU!!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
My pleasure...it's so much fun seeing everything slowly come together!
@pizzatime1146
@pizzatime1146 8 месяцев назад
Wonderful video. These breakdowns makes ingesting all this info so easy. I really like the idea that HWR is the exiled one and Kang the Conquorer is a rouge Kang doing his own thing outside the council. But just what I think.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback. Yes, I think you and I are on the same page. Will be cool to see where things go from here. Can't wait for the next episode of Loki to drop!
@douglaslopes5913
@douglaslopes5913 8 месяцев назад
This is probably the most concise way this has been layed out there
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks...it sure helped me to lay it all out like that. Really appreciate your positive feedback on the vid!
@gmjjjones
@gmjjjones 8 месяцев назад
My favorite thing about this video is that you have really captured the nonlinear nature of time for kang and kang variants. The sacred timeline being isolated is what allowed it to have linear time. From what we've seen, I believe the multiverse branching is the natural state of things, which enabled the first variant to cross universes and the sacred timeline. The kang variants which wish to stop entropy (kang quantumania, hwr) are the ones acting in defiance of that, and the variants which act within it are more attuned to the natural order. I also think that because the opportunity for order vs chaos, nature vs nurture, and the limits of oppositional ideologies could all be neatly packed into the next two avengerses
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Wow...that was some excellent commentary. You are right, HWR created an unnatural state for the 616 universe. He limited the branches it could create and he set up a state of delaying entropy where he and the TVA could live for eons and eons. And so, in a way, the universe fought back by creating all the differently chaotic Loki variants to throw a wrench in his plans and ultimately cause the loom to shut down and free the universe once again. Very cool ideas!
@gmjjjones
@gmjjjones 8 месяцев назад
@AbitofEverything4U thank you! It means a lot to hear that from a talented theorist 😁😁 It's also mostly based on our (limited) real-world understanding of the universe's life cycle, which I believe marvel always tries to root itself in such that its world does not deny reality, but defy it. Regardless of what they do, I just hope Loki 2 is a sign of things to come come for the quality of the MCU and its narrative. This is so much the stuff that got me into comics beyond spidey and the x-fam
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Well said...I hope Loki S2 is indeed an indication of the quality we'll be getting going forward!
@kevinosei-wusu5274
@kevinosei-wusu5274 8 месяцев назад
You're so good! it all adds up. they were really talking about he who remains.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I think it makes so much sense that they were talking about He Who Remains. Glad you like that theory as well!
@The_Surf
@The_Surf 8 месяцев назад
Really appreciate your videos man!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@joel10032
@joel10032 8 месяцев назад
This is great! I enjoyed this much…. Keep em coming!!!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@WilliamJames48
@WilliamJames48 8 месяцев назад
Great video man. It's easy just to give up on this stuff, but your diligence has been helpful!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@daviddelarosa4955
@daviddelarosa4955 8 месяцев назад
How have i only just now discovered your channel😂 great video, definitely subscribing
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for the support! Really appreciate it!
@hunterterrell5735
@hunterterrell5735 8 месяцев назад
I just noticed also that He Who Remains stated that the 31st variant also came from Earth. However since we see that different Kang Variants like Victor Timely come from different points in time, cam also mean that there are some from different planets, which can explain why there's an alien looking Kang in the Kang Council.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Right...very good point!
@thefatneekcult4115
@thefatneekcult4115 8 месяцев назад
Love seeing you grow brother
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it! I keep pluggin' away and I'm grateful for your support!
@PKMN_Trainer87
@PKMN_Trainer87 8 месяцев назад
You are making banger after banger bro you sure you don't need a break 😂 thanks for the content
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...yeah, I may need to get some sleep soon. lol!
@daisyyue3117
@daisyyue3117 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for an awesome video.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for the positive feedback. I really appreciate it!
@doriandaykin2747
@doriandaykin2747 8 месяцев назад
I'm glad someone is trying to piece this together because I've lost track anymore.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, it is alot to take in. I am really hopeful that after Loki Season 2 wraps, the story will really together. Fingers crossed!
@kerryfaler7989
@kerryfaler7989 8 месяцев назад
New subscriber. Love this theory. Great content.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@korgclips868
@korgclips868 8 месяцев назад
great video, as always!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks! 😊
@keon3155
@keon3155 8 месяцев назад
You really break this shit down man. Idk how I found you but subscribed!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate the support for the channel!
@leilatobin
@leilatobin 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for making this video i have been enjoying loki season 2 as it helps us understand how time and space work i also love the quantumainia movie so this video is great happy Halloween
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it! Hope you had a Happy Halloween as well!
@mrocco5258
@mrocco5258 8 месяцев назад
I think I may have been the one who asked the question that inspired this video😁 I could be wrong but I did ask a very similar question on one of your previous videos... Either way, thanks for the further explanation and great video as always!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yes, I think a few people asked about it and you were one of them. It was a great question...thx so much for asking it!
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 8 месяцев назад
People who think quotmanina was a disaster needs to see this but enjoyed Loki
@Scotty2Hotty4
@Scotty2Hotty4 8 месяцев назад
I enjoyed Quantumania.. the ending wasn’t ideal but I’m Optimistic
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 8 месяцев назад
@@Scotty2Hotty4yeah I was first disappointed when I saw it then I rewatched it then seeing how joof who’s posting this video videos off it it’s starting to make a lot of sense
@Scotty2Hotty4
@Scotty2Hotty4 8 месяцев назад
@@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01trust me I got that same feeling. But just remember as said in the movie Kang will be back. We see Loki Is just a show that’s truly about Loki the more we break It down. It will always go back to Loki and what he Is and now who he’ll become bc the war Is coming.
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 8 месяцев назад
@@Scotty2Hotty4 yep I’m enjoying every minute of Loki season 2
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I agree...it was a good movie. It was confusing for me when I first saw it, but now I'm understanding how it all fits together.
@vascomarques7643
@vascomarques7643 8 месяцев назад
Hey hey hey 💛 just found your channel! Great vids. I'll be following you from now on. Have a nice day!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for finding the channel and subbing. Really appreciate the positive feedback on the vid!
@vascomarques7643
@vascomarques7643 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U thanks you for the response! Continue the great work 🙏
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Will do! 😊
@dam-dany
@dam-dany 8 месяцев назад
I loved this video sm
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@gsswrk
@gsswrk 8 месяцев назад
the kang that got sucked into the quantum power core at the end of Quantumania is He Who Remains because the smaller you get, the more time is dilated. Kang became so small that he arrived at the end of time and space. As did Revonna when she got pruned. They teamed up to tame Elioth, just liked Loki and Sylvie did. They established the TVA to protect themselves and what they built, then he wiped everyone's memories to make sure no one would question his plan.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Great feedback. With the multiverse saga, anything is possible. But for me, it seems like the Kang from QM had a very different personality from HWR and a very different approach for how to manage the multiverse and deal with the branched timelines. Also, the Kang from QM had those scars, which HWR doesn't have. So I just think the Kang from QM is someone different. But again, with the multiverse saga, it's hard to predict what's coming next. So your theories could very well be correct. Anyway, thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@stephenlivigni3222
@stephenlivigni3222 8 месяцев назад
Love the video
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@theshark2005
@theshark2005 8 месяцев назад
omg , I finally found someone who explained the timeline and multiverse. because they never make it clear in Loki, like they make it look like a time line is another multiverse. but thank you!! this makes sense to me.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it! My brain is such that I like to lay things out in an orderly fashion as it helps me process it so much better!
@kyledrake7313
@kyledrake7313 8 месяцев назад
Awesome job on this video. Just found your channel. Liking it!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate that!
@FleshWolf
@FleshWolf 8 месяцев назад
Glad I found this channel
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks! Glad to have you here. Really appreciate you watching the vid and sharing your feedback!
@tyler_traveler
@tyler_traveler 8 месяцев назад
I commented prematurely, but your nailed everything that I was already kinda thinking, but you reassured me as always! Since Loki and Slyvie killed He Who Remains, their timeline is no longer “isolated” so it makes total sense they were talking about him not Kang the Conqueror from Ant-Man . 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Well said! Yeah, I really think that the Kang Council is very worried about HWR having died while he was hidden way in the loom. They are now wanting to see who all these heroes are that popped up when they couldn't see what was happening in the sacred timeline!
@rapelangramosa1395
@rapelangramosa1395 8 месяцев назад
Great video, as always. It's great to journey with you & this community of nerds in understanding the Multiverse Saga. Here's my theory on Kang the Conqueror & how he fits alongside the Loki series: - 1) When HWR spoke of the "first variant" ["variant of myself"], I believe he was talking about Kang from Quantamania - because (a) In Quantamania, when Janet is talking to Hank & Hope about her experience when trapped in the Quantum Realm, she describes Nathaniel as "a traveller" & "a scientist". Let's keep in mind that HWR was describing a history that preceded the Multiversal war that he claimed "he ended". So, that first variant isn't Victor Timely (although, if you think about it, Timely is also "a scientist" of his era). Janet identifies him as a scientist. (b) Kang's futuristic attire & technologies align with the idea that he would have come from the 31st century. (c) "Eons ago" is not necessarily a description of "the past". It could just be a "periodic" descriptor for narrative sake. The same reasoning applies for "before the TVA". Kang & his variants do not view the flow of time as linear. (d) I agree with your view that Alioth was more likely discovered by Kang the Conqueror, as a creature formed from the tears of realities (timelines that he eliminated). But here is where I think we're going to find out how Ravonna Renslayer helped HWR "weaponize" Alioth to "end" the Multiversal war. We are going to see Renslayer in the void. Maybe Kang was "banished/exiled" to the Quantum Realm as "punishment" (or judgment) by the Council of Kangs.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Wow...love all of that. Totally agree 100% Excellent summary!
@alexanderdumas-
@alexanderdumas- 8 месяцев назад
What if Kang went into that temporal core and not only went thru time but had time to thru him like Scott in Endgame and he ended up a young man in the 1800’s who was already a scientist when he got a book for the TVA..
@gsswrk
@gsswrk 8 месяцев назад
I like this, cause it could also be a way HWR protected his throne.. his dynasty
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Oh wild...what an interesting theory. I like it! Can't wait to see where things go in the final two episodes of Loki!
@nejjo4235
@nejjo4235 8 месяцев назад
Great video
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@uncannyroaches5933
@uncannyroaches5933 8 месяцев назад
Im kind of becomign a fan of you. Not because of your content, thats top notch as always and like almost 1000s of creators like you. What I like is how you make these breakdowns and theory videos as a lecture, which reminds me of my online teachers on RU-vid. You literally teach us and educate us and are contributing more than you might think. Thanks
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for the positive feedback. Someone once joked that it's like the Khan Academy for the MCU. But then I was worried I was putting people to sleep like all my teachers did to me. lol!
@uncannyroaches5933
@uncannyroaches5933 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U buddy you actually do put me to sleep at times. Like I suffer from insomnia, sometimes your voice just makes me sleep although your content is top notch.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Love it! Yeah, I have no issue with being the reason someone gets a good night's sleep! lol!
@XDjester
@XDjester 8 месяцев назад
Even before I finish this video, this is exactly the topic I had the most interest in. Going by the model you presented for the multi-verse, he "shouldn't" have been able to be banished to 616. Implying, as you've said before, that the Quantum Realm is like a bedrock underneath everything. I guess the other Kangs just didn't realize this? This would imply that they've always had a backdoor to the Sacred Timeline.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Great comments! I suspect the Kang Council knew the QR was the basement of the multiverse and due to it being outside time and space, they figured that stranding Kang there would get rid of him. I am not sure that you can exit the QR into a different universe than the one you entered. We know you can use the QR to jump between timelines that are anchored to your original timeline (as we saw in Endgame), but I suspect that if you exit the QR, you go back to your original universe. Thus, it isn't a back door to the loom, per se. But that's a very interesting concept, so I may bring that up in a vid down the line. Anyway, thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@Celebok
@Celebok 8 месяцев назад
That brief exchange between Hank and Janet was yet another reason that I was figuring that words like "universe", "reality", "world", and "timeline" could be used interchangeably. After all, these are two of the few characters in the MCU that you'd think would know what they're talking about with this sort of stuff. But I do really hope to see some eventual canon confirmation about everything you talked about in this video.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I agree, that scene was pretty nutso. In the end, I'm down for whatever terms Marvel decides to go with, but I do think that there needs to be a fundamental difference between a universe and a branched timeline. Granted, a timeline in basically a universe, since it's a complete cut and paste of the original timeline, other than the nexus event. So I do agree, a timeline is a universe in that regard. But I think there is a difference between a universe that has its own unique big bang vs. a timeline that is anchored to an another universe via its nexus event. If only they had just come up with terms to describe those two things. Ugh!
@zactacon
@zactacon 8 месяцев назад
This makes so much sense. I really wish they would explain it better themselves but I guess they have so much to do. Even though this is more complex than phases 1-3 I still feel marvel should be explaining this more like they did back then
@UltimateQball
@UltimateQball 8 месяцев назад
Its because it easily can get messy when you dealing with Multiverse, and you have so many ppl on your team to manage and make sure everyone on the same page. The whole Infinity Saga time travelling is retconned for sure, I don't even think about that concept no more (it was just unique for only that saga). Especially it seems that time slipping is going to be a concept even outside the TVA. So wouldn't that mean new branches can occur. But in the Infinity Saga, the Ancient One said the removal of an infinity stone causes a new branch. All I'm saying is, if you have too many ways for a new branch to occur, then it just becomes a mess and no consistency. And then you throw in the Loki concept of Nexus Events causes branching timelines. You see how easily it becomes a huge mess. They're not on the same page at all. That's why I see that the concept from infinity saga is retconned. I think Kevin Feige and his crew needs to actually curate all these projects, and not release them when writers/directors/producers completely didn't get the memo and broke the entire rules. They should be currated multiple times, throughout its development cycle. And think that's what he's doing now which is why some of the newer projects are pushed further and getting rewritten.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Great feedback on the vid. I agree, Marvel really needs to give us a specific model of what the multiverse looks like. FWIW, I do think Waldron's quote from the MoM Assembled episode is very important: "It's something that we've established is that it's impossible, near impossible to travel from one universe to another. In Loki, you can kind of hop from one time line branch to another, but you've gotta be anchored to some original time line. What America can do is, she can jump from one universe to another one. She can literally do the impossible." He of course wrote both Loki and MoM, so he understands how both worked, and he seems to indicate that Loki's series was dealing with one universe (616) and branched timelines off of it, while 838 was a separate and disconnected universe. The distinction between the timeline branches off of 616 and the disconnected 838 universe are what make America's powers have meaning. So yeah, I hope Marvel continues to explain how all of this fits together. And I really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Thx so much!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
​@@UltimateQball I agree...I think Marvel needs to be very careful with the multiverse saga going forward and work especially hard to bring it all together. It been fairly consistent so far, but I hope they really make things clear from here on out. Great feedback on the vid. I really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Thx so much!
@UltimateQball
@UltimateQball 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U No problem! Also, we're not gonna count The Marvels. That project is already finished and they have to release it, and it's inevitably going to flop. But I think they actually tryna fix things in the project afterwards, moving forward. But first, we have to see how these last 2 episodes of Loki Season 2 plays out. They could be trash, or they could very great.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
​@@UltimateQball Fingers crossed that the last two episodes are amazing. I have high hopes!
@stevecristian6932
@stevecristian6932 8 месяцев назад
This is the Kang that we saw at the end of Loki season 1( the statue), Loki season 2 was supose to come out before Antman 3, they re-write the entire script for Loki season 2 and they changed the ending for antman 3,
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I agree...I think that broken statue is the Kang from Quantumania. That makes alot of sense!
@drink15
@drink15 8 месяцев назад
A few things to note: Scott never made it as far down as so time may have worked differently for him. He was just "stuck" in between levels. The quantuma realm connects all Multiverses. They used it when they shrunk down to the quantum level to time travel/switch Multiverses to get the stones. Timelines = Multiverse = Dimensions = Realities = Branches. His questions kind of answered your issue, its all the same.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Excellent feedback! I think your points about Scott getting "stuck" between levels makes a ton of sense. The QR does indeed connect to all of the universes across the multiverse. Great points! Regarding timelines vs. universes, Marvel really needs to give us a specific model of what the multiverse looks like. But I do think Waldron's quote from the MoM Assembled episode is very important: "It's something that we've established is that it's impossible, near impossible to travel from one universe to another. In Loki, you can kind of hop from one time line branch to another, but you've gotta be anchored to some original time line. What America can do is, she can jump from one universe to another one. She can literally do the impossible." He of course wrote both Loki and MoM, so he understands how both worked, and he seems to indicate that Loki's series was dealing with one universe (616) and branched timelines off of it, while 838 was a separate and disconnected universe. If there isn't a distinction between the timeline branches off of 616 and the disconnected 838 universe, then America's powers seem to be meaningless. So yeah, I hope Marvel continues to explain how all of this fits together. And I really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Thx so much!
@cdmichaelb
@cdmichaelb 8 месяцев назад
It kinda makes sense, I always wondered why when loki went back to the TVA it wasn't under control of another Kang. They definitely foreshadowed that, but it turned out that it was just the he who remains before he created the cover story and wiped the TVAs memories (well one of the time they were wiped).
@stevecristian6932
@stevecristian6932 8 месяцев назад
It was this Kang that we saw at the end of Lpki season 1(the statue) Loki season 2 was supose to come before antman 3, but because of the delays they changed antman 3 ending and re-write the script for loki season 2, that time-jump wasn't in the script at all and a new Kang took control over the TVA
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Agreed...I was really curious to see the answer to the season 1 cliffhanger. Love how season 2 has unfolded so far!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
​@@stevecristian6932 Oh how interesting! I hadn't heard all of that, but it does make sense. Where did you read that? Thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@nomercy4186
@nomercy4186 8 месяцев назад
For some reason I feel like Victor Timely will come back and become “Kang the conqueror” or something he does causes that version to exist in the main timeline. I think the three timekeepers isn’t just a facade but almost like a timeline of Kang. We have seen the final Kang (He Who Remains) and the beginning Kang (Victor Timely) I think there will be a middle Kang that ties everything together or something
@jcIIXVIIIVII
@jcIIXVIIIVII 8 месяцев назад
I think Victor Timely is He Who Remains. Not the variant Victor created by Renslayer when she slipped him the TVA Handbook, which caused a branched timeline and a variant Timely, but the ORIGINAL Victor Timely still existing on the Sacred Timeline. Victor, not his Loki variant that died, is from the Sacred Timeline...He Who Remains is also from the Sacred Timeline. I believe when the Kang's start traveling the multiverse, Sacred Timeline Victor Timely will be moved and influenced by them and will eventually become He Who Remains. I believe Variant Victor Timely, was the FIRST of all Kang variants, and when he was shredded in the Multiversal Probability Storm, it dispersed his Aura throughout the multiverse, throughout space and time, giving rise to all other Kang variants. I believe that He Who Remains planned for himself to get the TVA Handbook, in order to create a variant of himself, the FIRST of all Kang variants, that he knew and NEEDED to sacrifice himself, thereby dispersing his Aura throughout the Multiverse, giving rise to all Kangs that would influence Sacred Timeline Victor Timely to achieve his destiny to eventually become He Who Remains.
@nomercy4186
@nomercy4186 8 месяцев назад
@@jcIIXVIIIVIII’ve heard that temporal aura theory spread around by a lot of people and I think it could be possible. My only problem with it is that we know Loki will be going back in time to re-do those events so that the temporal loom doesn’t implode. And the fact that we know the council of kangs already exist they just couldn’t reach the sacred timeline while He Who Remains was alive and the TVA still pruning timelines
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Great commentary and theories! You may well be right on Victor being the Kang from QM. But for me, it just seems like the Kang from QM had a very different personality from HWR and a very different approach for how to manage the multiverse and deal with the branched timelines. Also, the Kang from QM had those scars, which HWR doesn't have. So I do think Victor and HWR are tied together, but I just think the Kang from QM is someone different. But again, with the multiverse saga, it's hard to predict where things are going, as the possibilities are limitless! Anyway, thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
​@@jcIIXVIIIVII I love your theories on Victor and HWR being the same. I do have to wonder about Victor spreading his aura across the multiverse and creating the other Kangs, though. It's a valid theory and it may be the direction Marvel goes. ig for me, the biggest wrinkle is understanding how the Kang Council retained their memories of HWR and why they were angry with him and wanted to be the ones to kill him. That makes me think that HWR didn't wipe them out, but instead just hid from them via the loom. So the Kang Council has been out there the whole time, but was unable to impact the sacred timeline due to the loom. But that's just my theory on it. I suspect we'll learn more in these last two episodes of Loki. Can't wait for the next one to drop. And thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@nomercy4186
@nomercy4186 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U love how you take the time to respond !! Makes this cloud of uncertainty much more fun to speculate on!! My theories after episode 5 are all out the window now. I do believe Loki God Of Stories is VERY much at play now. Seems like a layup in terms of where the direction of the story is heading. I do also have one more theory. The “ouroboros” reference. Wouldn’t it be crazy if Loki season 2 ended up right where it began, with Loki being captured by the TVA? Assuming he is God Of Stories Loki it would leave a bunch of room to operate considering the Kang dilemma
@thejjreapzz
@thejjreapzz 8 месяцев назад
Once again, another banger video from you! I never realized that the council was referring to HWR. Good on Marvel for the misdirection. Quick question - any thoughts on the new Deadpool Wolverine movie. Supposedly the TVA will be involved. Imagine we see one or both in the final Loki episode🤯
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I am sooooooo hoping the post credit scene will include Deadpool!
@Scotty2Hotty4
@Scotty2Hotty4 8 месяцев назад
I love this headline here bc yes.. that should be everyone’s question. I’m not worried or concerned with Loki. We know he’s going to be around we get that… how does this tie into Antman kang… you actually get It. You deserve a merry Christmas lol
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks! Yeah, I agree, putting all the puzzle pieces on the table is important and it's nice to see this all tying together really well. Can't wait to see where things go from here!
@rckbrch
@rckbrch 8 месяцев назад
Your channel just got recommended, subscribed! hehe i just wanna point out about Janet telling Hope that she spent 30 yrs down the QR I think she did not experienced the whole 30 yrs of it? she just knew it was 30 yrs because of course Hope and Hank told her she was gone that long I mean there are scenes in a movie that don't really need to be added. Anyway still great video!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Interesting theory! That said, Peyton Reed made it sound like time passed normally in his interview, as he said Kang arrived 21-22 years into her 30 years down there. But that said, you could still be right. Thx for sharing that theory and for subscribing to the channel. Love to hear what ideas fellow MCU fans have about the multiverse saga!
@robbiesharp6513
@robbiesharp6513 8 месяцев назад
Marvel should be getting your help for thier books 🤣 Your theorys are always Brilliant!! Keep it up!! Cant wait for the final two episodes
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback. Yeah, I can't wait for the final two episodes to drop!
@jdson381
@jdson381 8 месяцев назад
This theory is the best understanding so far
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback!
@Smile-hk7vd
@Smile-hk7vd 8 месяцев назад
I had my doubts with Post Endgame era, but finger crossed, the wait & our patients will be worth it when we get to Kang Dinasty & Secret Wars.. Can't wait to see everything's tied up together: Kang, TVA, Loki, Doctor Strange, Incursion, Shang-Chi, Ten Rings, Ms. Marvel's Bangle, Moon Knight, Eternals, Spider-Man, The multiverse (Fox verse, Sony Verse)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Ikr? I'm hoping that the multiverse saga will be similar to the Infinity Saga, in that it took awhile for things to really gel, but then things took off. For instance it wasn't until Thor: TDW that we first heard the word "infinity stone" in that post credit. That was two movies into Phase 2. So in a way, Phase 4 was like Phase 1...a lot of setup for what's to come. The advantage Phase 1 had was the Avengers movie was a nice way to cap it off and Phase 4 didn't have anything like that. But I do think the setup in Phase 4 and the first part of Phase 5 will make the multiverse saga end up being fantastic!
@joeljones8196
@joeljones8196 8 месяцев назад
I really believe like you the council was talking about he who remains you explained it perfectly
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks! Yeah, that just makes so much sense to me. Really appreciate you watching the vid and sharing your thoughts on it!
@hirilvuin9328
@hirilvuin9328 8 месяцев назад
As usual Joof your diagrams are fire! 🔥 love the theory that Victor timely may have been OG the variant that found the universes and first made contact, interested then if He who remains was the one that found Alioth, how does he fit in with Victor Timely on the 616 universe 😏
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I'm so curious to see how Victor fits into all of this. I could also see it end up being the Kang from QM that discovered Alioth instead. So many possible ways for everything to go. I know we'll learn more in these last two episodes of Loki. Can't wait for the next one to drop. And thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@shakestheclone1995
@shakestheclone1995 8 месяцев назад
I’ve never won a contest, but I’m glad I found your channel
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Glad to have you here...and best of luck in the contest!
@travisneesmith3782
@travisneesmith3782 8 месяцев назад
Great explanation theory
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks...it's fun to see the puzzle pieces slowly coming together. Will be very interesting to see how the Loki season ends!
@streakingclothed
@streakingclothed 8 месяцев назад
Great video. Only thing I don’t agree with is if the Conqueror said “they excited me” and then they refer at the end of the movie to “the exiled one” and nobody knew about He Who Remains, I think they were just talking about the exiled Kang from AM3
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I think that's a fair point to debate. If you haven't seen it yet, I do go into that question abit more in this vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--_ayPVJwDOA.html. You might find it interesting, if you get a chance to watch it.
@bizzybrown8372
@bizzybrown8372 8 месяцев назад
I’d love to see a version of Kang with an identical origin as the comics 616 universe Kang. Maybe a few scenes from his escapades as comic accurate Rama tut and Scarlett Centurian etc .
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, that would be very cool!
@WeldoYT
@WeldoYT 8 месяцев назад
this theory would be a real interesting direction to go in!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks! We'll hopefully get even more answers after the final two episodes of Loki. Can't wait for the next one to drop!
@CannonOfTheYear
@CannonOfTheYear 8 месяцев назад
Very interesting theory, and plausible. Great work. But what do you make of the scene with HWR and Renslayer seemingly celebrating a Multiversal war victory, and she was on the front lines? If they just hid this wouldn’t make sense.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Great question! I suspect he hadn't hidden behind the loom construct yet and in fact that he knew that was his next plan, so that's why he wiped her memory, as well as the rest of the TVA. They wouldn't like what he was going to do. Just my theory on that, fwiw. Thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@Laneice88
@Laneice88 8 месяцев назад
I like your channel 😊
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@OS_Reptar
@OS_Reptar 8 месяцев назад
I hope Loki at least references this Kang or his potential whereabouts. I also can see them making us think that ant man 3’s Kang is coming back, only for it to be someone else entirely
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I agree...I'm really hoping the final episode of Loki ties in with the three main Kangs from the Council to bring it all together. And it will be interesting to see what happens next with the Kang that was seeming killed at the end of QM. Lots of possible directions to go with that story. Thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@The_Nerd_Table
@The_Nerd_Table 8 месяцев назад
I keep on thinking that in episode 4 of loki, when He Who Remains said to Miss Minutes “erase all of their memories” he wasnt talking about the TVA he was erasing everyones memory on the sacred timeline….
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Interesting theory! That would be wild if that turns out to be true!
@markdarc0448
@markdarc0448 8 месяцев назад
Great video as always but this really leaves me questioning what was the point of the kang in quantumania? I think it's definitely possible that he's either going to become the beyonder (perhaps similar to in Moon Girl, kinda doubt it but I can hope right?) or he weaponized allioth or his chair/core is gonna have some importance further down the line or something because right now he just feels like such a random inclusion when every other kang has had some pretty significant importance to the overall MCU (or perhaps more appropriately MCM)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I love the idea that things tie in with the Beyonder in Moon Girl. That would be so amazing!
@illputindry7578
@illputindry7578 8 месяцев назад
Hey thanks for the opportunity to listen
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thank YOU for watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Really appreciate it!
@TENOVISION
@TENOVISION 8 месяцев назад
You know what, for the longest time I’ve always assumed “The Kang Dynasty” (specifically) would be this “Avengers Multiversal Reunion” type of Event Film but now since hearing you actually go into the details of how THOSE THREE prominent Kang variants made such interesting conversation with the very few subtle lines they could give us … I believe “The Kang Dynasty” will be about “The History of Kang” , they gave us a somewhat vague & miniature version of his life in the Loki S1 Finale at the Citadel but “The Kang Dynasty” will probably show it in a more grander, “multiversal” scale. He Who Remains even spoke of how a variant of himself lived on earth in the 31st century … He said NATURALLY they (his variants) made contact because as ONE of his variants (the scientist: Nathaniel Richards) was figuring out there were universes stacked on top of his own … so were OTHER kang variants as well. It’s like “The Kang Dynasty” is going to tell a story about: What it’s like to truly be your own worst enemy and How powerful can knowledge truly become? How does knowing everything inevitably change you as a person. ( I feel like it may have an ‘Eternals’ kind of feel to it. In a sense, Kang’s life itself is quite literally a perfect representation of an ouroboros.
@rafinha7081
@rafinha7081 8 месяцев назад
Exactly.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Wow...love all of that. You shared a great way to view things and to frame how Kang Dynasty will go down. Can't wait to see things continue to unfold in the multiverse saga. Thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
​@@rafinha7081Ikr? That was such a cool way to view the Kang Dynasty and Kang being his own worst enemy!
@devonmoore3854
@devonmoore3854 8 месяцев назад
I love it! So my question now is who is quantumania Kang meant to become?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Agreed...that's a big mystery. It feels like he may become the MCU version of the Beyonder...but that's just a guess on my part. Can't wait to see where things go from here!
@josemojica4342
@josemojica4342 8 месяцев назад
Hi ya doin "A Bit of Everything" first, I want to say, I love your channel, and follow what you bring us. Sometimes I get it before I listen to you, then in other times, with your help, you bring me to par.... I wanted to bring this theory out there.... I'm hearing out there from a few people that Victor Timely is "supposed to be" He Who Remains contingency plan... I can see that.... be I don't think so... That came from Miss. Minutes... I believe all of Loki season 2 was Miss. Minutes plan. She just needs the brains of He Who Remains... or a He Who Remains variant (Kang Variant) to get her plan rolling... Victor Timely is a variant, but not one who will turn to Kang... That's why when Ravonna gave young Victor the book, it became a branch time line.. Now we all know, that time would be pruned if "He Who Remains" was there... But Miss. Minutes want... WANTS the TVA.... we know that.... 🤔 Hhummm...
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Oh wow! I absolutely LOVE that theory. That makes a ton of sense. I suspect we'll learn more in these last two episodes of Loki. Can't wait for the next one to drop. And thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@Jansenbaker
@Jansenbaker 8 месяцев назад
I'm warming to the idea of the "Quantum Realm" being one basement for all the Multiverse. Think of this situation like how they did the "Multiverse" in the 1st Doctor Strange film: there it was said the multiverse was a bunch of dimensions, and then the parallel realities were added in later stories. I can see it being that the 1st Ant-Man film was just referring to the micro-sized area Scott got stuck in, and then carried the name to the 2nd movie where they went even smaller and entered the other place. Totally random example, but imagine a cat standing on the floor. This isn't to scale, but if you equate the cat to a universe, and the floor the true Quantum Realm, a tick or germ going down the arm, then the paw, could call the floor the bottom of the cat/world without realizing (ignoring temperature and texture, of course) Or another example, I think they stumbled onto the table holding all the vases, and mislabeled it as part of the vase they came from. Essentially, the name "Realm" was accurate until they slipped out into the open. I wonder if they will give it another name? Did the Kang in Quantumania call it the Quantum Realm? If a Kang used the name, that might put a dent in the theory.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Interesting theories. To your point, I don't think the Kang in QM called it the Quantum Realm, although MODOK did. Anyway, very cool theories!
@RunesCraft
@RunesCraft 8 месяцев назад
My theory is by having Victor Timely’s temporal aura exposed to the loom it scattered him all over the multiverse. Creating his army of Kangs. Eventually one will conquer the multiverse becoming he who remains and the cycle will continue until the Avengers stop him.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
That's a very valid theory and it may be the direction Marvel goes. ig for me, the biggest wrinkle is how the Kang Council retained their memories of HWR and why they were angry with him and wanted to be the ones to kill him. That makes me think that HWR didn't wipe them out, but instead just hid from them via the loom. But that's just my theory on it. I suspect we'll learn more in these last two episodes of Loki. Can't wait for the next one to drop. And thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@xAlbatr0ss
@xAlbatr0ss 8 месяцев назад
a video i would love for you to try and tackle would be an update to your timelines vs universe video, it would be a "realms + timelines + universes" so what are realms ???? and where are they ??
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yes, I think adding in realms and even dimensions would be very helpful. I've got that on the list for future vides!
@jonahnichols1
@jonahnichols1 8 месяцев назад
I feel like the Kang from Quantumania destroyed his universe and many other timelines and different Kangs so the council of Kangs would not have needed to destroy his, I definitely agree that the "exiled one" is HWR because they would not care about the one in the quantum realm but would be interested in learning that the one who beat them and hid himself died. Something that I would love to see that may tie in with the Kang Dynasty would be a movie about the Kang wars where we have WHR, the main one from Ant-Man and the three from the end credits and what all happened between them and all of the other variants that existed during the war and seeing how HWR really won the war.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Well said. I agree with everything you laid out. And I agree...I'd love to see the backstory on how that multiversal war went down. That would be amazing!
@nimkeejoshproductions
@nimkeejoshproductions 8 месяцев назад
I think you’re right about HWR being the l exiled one referred to by the Council of Kangs in the post-credit scene in Antman: and what if HWR satirized them in the TVA as the Timekeepers? They could also be the three destroyed statues in the Citadel at the end of time?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yes, I think you are spot on with those theories. I agree 100%!
@TidalVex
@TidalVex 8 месяцев назад
To help with your "Kang becomes the Beyonder" theory, he was portrayed as African American in the recent Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur cartoon series. While not directly tied to the MCU, the versions of Bill Foster/Goliath and Maria Hill in the series are both voiced by their respective MCU actors.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Good point! Wow...that's a cool connection!
@bizzybrown8372
@bizzybrown8372 8 месяцев назад
Micheal Douglas has mentioned many times over the years that Ant Man 3 and the Quantum realm will be very important in the next few phases .
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I agree...I think A-M 3 will be more and more important as time goes on!
@bizzybrown8372
@bizzybrown8372 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U yes I said the same thing . I watched it night before opening day . I said It’s a smart film that has to accrue in value as the multiverse saga is presented to us.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Indeed!
@TheKonradhehe
@TheKonradhehe 8 месяцев назад
I think Kang from Quantumania found Alioth and that scared the council. He started multiversal war, lost the war and was banished. He Who Remains (616 Kang) didn't want to have anything to do with the council and war so he isolated 616 universe and created TVA to make sure no more Kang will show up in 616. He who Remains dies, the machine is being destroyed and now 616 becomes a part of multiversal war.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I love it! I 1000% agree with that summary. Nicely stated!
@Dragomirasreviews
@Dragomirasreviews 8 месяцев назад
I just subscribed I would love for you to do a video as to why you think higher powers than the TVA and Kane have not interfered with what’s going on with everything. Like we’ve been teased the living tribunal in Doctor strange. We know there are celestial beings and the eternal. Why aren’t they involved in any of this? Omg I would love for there to be a reference to the one above all in Marvel
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
That is such a great question! Yeah, we've been seeing more and more higher powered beings, including Eternity in Thor L&T. I agree, a video on that would be very cool. Thx so much for watching the vid, subbing, and making great suggestions for future vids. Really appreciate it!
@Dragomirasreviews
@Dragomirasreviews 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U yes would love to see a theory video on the higher beings and celestial and why they haven’t intervened
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
💯
@CranE6490
@CranE6490 8 месяцев назад
It's crazy, I watched this whole video and listen to this whole lengthy explanation and at the end of it absolutely nothing is more clear and I don't understand what point you were trying to make.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Oh my...I truly apologize for that. What I was just trying to show was how the Quantumania movie fits in with the overall MCU timeline and in particular how it fits in with Loki. Simply stated, I think the order is this: 1. Kang Variants meet in the 31st century 2. Multiversal war occurs 3. Kang from Quantumania is exiled to the Quantum Realm (QR) 4. HWR creates the sacred timeline and uses the loom to hide from the other Kangs 5. Janet enters the QR in 1987 6. Kang enters the QR in 2008 7. Janet eventually realizes Kang's plan, sabotages the core, and flees. 8. Janet is rescued from the QR in 2018 9. Avengers go on the time heist 10. Loki's branch is created when he steals the tesseract 11. Loki S1 and S2 occur, eventually resulting in the loom being shut down and the sacred timeline being exposed to the multiverse 12. Janet and the gang are pulled into the QR in 2026 13. Quantumania movie occurs, ending in Kang being killed (?) 14. Kang Council sees what has happened during the Loki series and realizes they need to deal with all the heroes that popped up in the sacred timeline while they were unable to see what was happening (i.e. while the loom was in place). Hope that helps. Really appreciate you watching the vid and sharing your feedback!
@CranE6490
@CranE6490 8 месяцев назад
@AbitofEverything4U don't get me wrong, I watched the whole video because the video was well put together and rather easy to follow along with, but at the end of the day I think this is more of a Marvel storytelling problem than a you not being able to rehash the Marvel story problem. Everything post phase 3 is a jumbled mess that seemingly makes no sense and has no clear-cut connections from one to the next. Like, I can't wait to see what this eternal sticking out of the ocean has to do with Sharon Carter the power broker, just choosing two of the random open-ended plot threads that Marvel has given us and then promptly done absolutely nothing with, and these plot threads now seem redundant and irrelevant to the direction they are going.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Ah! I'm following now. Yes, I agree, Phase 4 has been abit all over the place. I think that will improve now that the stories are all coming together, but it has been abit hard to see how it will all connect at times. Let's see how the rest of Phase 5 goes and I suspect we'll see things coalescing nicely!
@tronstonwilliams6446
@tronstonwilliams6446 8 месяцев назад
The branch of the branch of the branch be branchin' 😅
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Well said...which leads me to say..."and that's the way we became the Brady Branch!" (sorry, bad 70's sitcom pun)
@samhangyu
@samhangyu 8 месяцев назад
cant wait to see how this ends
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Ikr? Such a great series!
@Alex-VaahEye23
@Alex-VaahEye23 8 месяцев назад
Quantum realm Kang is He who remains thats the big twist haha Cant wait for episode 5
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
That's a very valid theory! Will be cool to see where things go from here. Can't wait for the next episode to drop!
@ghosttwo2
@ghosttwo2 8 месяцев назад
I think Loki is a separate sub-multiverse that uses some kind of time loop to isolate it from everything else. Consider that while there was only one 'sacred timeline' for eons, there's still a whole spiderverse and all of the worlds featured in What If and Dr Strange 2. I'm not sure if the portion of avengers from 1-1 is the same scene from the original movie, or an identical one, but either way the idea of a ring shaped timeline with no branches doesn't match what we see in other materials.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Great feedback! So my theory is that the sacred timeline (i.e. 616) is what is contained in the loom and that the nexus events created branches (some of which were considered dangerous and were pruned and others which were left to be woven together via the loom) and that the sacred timeline has been protected from the rest of the Kang Council and the rest of the multiverse. So the Spider-Verse and What If exist outside of the loom, but when the loom is shut down, it will expose the sacred timeline to the multiverse. Just my theories though. I could very well be wrong. I suspect we'll learn more in these last two episodes of Loki. Can't wait for the next one to drop. And thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@knilla2k
@knilla2k 8 месяцев назад
I’m 2 minutes through the video and I’m sure you probably mention this. But I think the TVA is probably in the Quantum Realm!!!! Makes so much sense and I hope it’s the case
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
I didn't mention it this time around, but I do agree with you...the TVA being in the QR makes a ton of sense!
@levardotts9026
@levardotts9026 8 месяцев назад
Since the quantum realm was central to the time heist in Endgame, I'm curious if time effects everyone the same in the quantum realm; but what ends up happening is that people may enter and exit the realm at different points in time without a device that can control their entry and exit points. So that a person can enter the realm for 8years but when they exit they can either return 8sec, 8mins, 8years, 8decades, etc... from when they left. Or even return 8sec, 8mins, 8years, 8decades, etc... BEFORE they left for traveling back in time scenarios. Just a thought.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, the rules around the QR are very hard to pin down. But I do agree that you can use it to jump back in time, as the Avengers did in the time heist. However, if you do that, you create a branch in time, it seems. So if you want to return to your timeline, you have to return to the point where you left...or in the case of Ant-Man, you may end up exiting in the future, due to more time passing in the main universe than you experienced in the quantum realm. Craziness. Anyway, I really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Thx so much!
@CCJAN.5
@CCJAN.5 8 месяцев назад
Amazing model
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much...really appreciate that!
@Passtheremoteplease
@Passtheremoteplease 8 месяцев назад
Great videos to relax to 😴
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kids words and positive feedback. I've been told the vids can cure insomnia! lol!
@ayunkhan2395
@ayunkhan2395 7 месяцев назад
Another great video, bro. I know, you dont read about rumours, but It would be awesome you made a video on the Jonathan Majors' lawsuit going on. The video would go on the approximate probability of Majors' returning in F4, The Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. It could dive in on weather or not Marvel can make a U-Turn and recast Kang or replace him with another big bad (Dr Doom maybe). Like how much Marvel and Feige have invested in Majors' Kang or if they could afford losing Majors at this point in the Multiversal Saga? Which actor could make a good Kang and things like that. I, for one, want Majors' to be proved innocent and want him back. He was the saving grace in Quantumania for me. Him and Michelle Pfeiffer. Otherwise, thats a bad movie.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, I'll be watching the upcoming trial very closely. As for my thoughts on things...I can't imagine them giving up on the Kang storyline as they have invested too much in it and I think things are getting very interesting so I hope we do get Kang Dynasty and that the story continues. As for Majors, I am hoping things work out for him in the trial, in which case I think Marvel keeps him. Otherwise, I can see them recasting to keep the story moving along. We'll likely find out soon!
@Andrew-dw1vj
@Andrew-dw1vj 8 месяцев назад
Regarding the zombie virus, I think the Zombie Janet in What If was truly a "what if" in that it didn't happen in another universe or in a different quantum realm. It simply didn't happen (until the writers say it did).
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
That's certainly a possibility...but they did include that episode in the Official Timeline book for the MCU, so ig that means it is canon? I'm looking forward to What If season 2 to see if it makes things abit more clear on what is really happening in those episodes.
@noahtrulock8387
@noahtrulock8387 8 месяцев назад
There are two things I haven’t seen mentioned about episode 5 yet. When Loki returns back to the TVA, he REPLACES himself right after Timely is heading out. He doesn’t create a second Loki or see himself, he goes back to his body in that time, which is different than what happened even within the episode. Secondly, if you watch the loom at the only time we see it at the beginning, it is acting differently yet again. It is rotating faster, and the strands on the right seem to be weaving back together, as if it’s repairing itself.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Great points! I totally forgot to mention in my breakdown that Loki actually replaced himself at the end of Ep 5. I do wonder if that's what Brad managed to do in the sacred timeline? And that's a fantastic observation about the loom seeming to heal itself. That said, everything then spaghettified, so I am honestly still abit confused about what we were seeing happening in that scene with that loom. I suspect the most important thing was Loki getting the TVA manual, but the loom's status is an interesting situation for sure.
@uraveragehaloenjoyer
@uraveragehaloenjoyer 8 месяцев назад
Wait, did Loki really make a branch if He Who Remains said Loki and Sylvie was going to kill him? That means he had that planned. He had all the things that happened in Loki planned.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, it does seem like HWR had alot of contingency plans laid out. Pretty wild!
@zakaryrichmond396
@zakaryrichmond396 8 месяцев назад
My interpretation of heat remains that we can gain control of the timelines and could write out the events he wrote the story to lead to him and the reason they prune branches is because when it crosses the red line that is the point in which a new Kang variant is possible so by keeping time as a flat circle no more of him will appear. The breaking of the Damned immediately created the rest of the Kang variants because all the time happens at once it was not a slow creation of them it's just without he who remains to keep the timeline pure they exist
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
That's a very valid theory and it may be the direction Marvel goes. ig for me, the biggest wrinkle is understanding how the Kang Council retained their memories of HWR and why they were angry with him and wanted to be the ones to kill him. That makes me think that HWR didn't wipe them out, but instead just hid from them via the loom. So the Kang Council has been out there the whole time, but was unable to impact the sacred timeline due to the loom. But that's just my theory on it. I suspect we'll learn more in these last two episodes of Loki. Can't wait for the next one to drop. And thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@iiDopa
@iiDopa 8 месяцев назад
At this point I don’t know what to predict , cuz there is like a million possibility for each scenario ! ‘ around and around we go ‘
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, that finale was so good. Hope you enjoyed it as well!
@iiDopa
@iiDopa 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U I very much did !
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, I loved it, too...such a great season and a fantastic finale!
@Filosifire
@Filosifire 8 месяцев назад
You've brought it up several times now, and I personally like the "it's just really big" theory, especially with Janet referring to it as a Universe, most likely in reference to it's size. The likelihood of running into a variant just has to be astronomically low. Is this what they intended? Is this what they'll end up running with? 🤷‍♂️
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, it seems like as good of a theory as any to explain the funkiness of the QR. It's just a very, very, very, VERY big place (or is that a very, very, very small place)!
@Filosifire
@Filosifire 8 месяцев назад
@@AbitofEverything4U Haha! Very true! Love the theories!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much!
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