@@chickenmerchant3719 I took that personally so I took the court and decimated everyone else on the court till jerry stackhouse and kwame brown cried wolf.
I know we havent had sports but are legacys still tied to team success? I thought he won a title before the Hornets turned down that trade my fault lol
MJ’s problem is that he keeps drafting big players close to him in size and skill, even though: 1. MJ himself is a one of a kind player that hasn’t existed before or since. 2. And more importantly, players being able to shoot and space has become much more important to a team’s success over the past decade or two.
Derek Johns It shows that being an NBA executive is difficult and takes entirely different skills and knowledge to be successful. Hell, even Phil Jackson, one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time with the Bulls and Lakers, had a disastrous reign as an executive with the Knicks.
To be fair. Rich Cho made a lot of those bad draft picks after Kemba Walker. Malik Monk, Devante Graham, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington and Dwayne Bacon were all good recent picks.
I'm convinced that all current Charlotte Hornets fans are really fans of their real team, now based in New Orleans, but treat their expansion team as if it is the old team's history. Think about this, if it were modern day, Larry Johnson and Alonzo would be Pellicans.
Didn't he get in trouble for smoking weed during his career? I thought for sure that was one of the reasons he was outta the league. I am high though so I could just be imagining that.
Spacing like he provides is only for good teams he’s not 16 Kyle korver where he just forces you to keep a eye out he’s good enough for a team with a bron or Brodie somebody that actually creates space but he doesn’t himself he just can punish you for it
Maybe trade them for a young franchise star so you wouldn’t have to worry about “roster crunch” or trade them for an even higher draft pick! But hey this guy is a top executive for an NBA franchise and we just random fans, so he clearly knows more than us on what you should do if you offered several future 1st round picks...🤦🏼♂️
Good analysis on the Morrison and Augustin picks. I was so ticked when Lopez dropped in their lap and they passed on him. Ajinca didn't even start in France. After the draft, I looked up his stats thinking he must have dominated in France. He sucked. I would have fired every person responsible for drafting him.
i actually somewhat agree with the shai trade. we got miles and a second round pick that ended up being devonte graham, who very well could be an all star. so they traded an all star for a solid starter and an all star, makes sense now.
I’m a NC native and lifetime Hornets fan. I put a lot of fault on MJ, but any team would have picked Morrison at that spot. He was a scoring machine in college
I do think development is important to though. I think some of these guys on a different team would have been better. Whether its MKG, or Adam Morrison etc. Formative years wasted, bad habits reinforced. Training staff, coaching etc. can mean a lot. True they didn't get a transcendent player who comes in the league and is already a clear top 20 player. Though even if they luck out and land someone like that, they're gonna walk with this lack of player development surrounding them.
Love the vids man, you deserve more than 2 hundred k subs, I look forward to the pod, and can you go over the timeline of the bulls and see what they done wrong and right
Thank you for pointing all of this out. That management basically wasted all their chances to have a good team at least... Makes my blood boil (especially turning down all those picks from Boston).... 😡😤
Wish he mentioned letting larry brown go and giving up tyson chandler for nothing plus losing felton for nothing as well all in the same year basically...not to mention giving up on the veterans on the team on the bench from that 2010-2011 team and going young instead.... horrible choices
AD couldn't have happened cause they lost the lottery (in highly suspect fashion mind you), and I don't put much on people passing on Giannis cause he was a literal 5-year project, but yeah they should have come away with at least Harris and one of Beal or Booker
This series of videos should deffo be called 2020 Hindsight. Great work man, great video idea - loving the whole lot of wasted Draft Class videos you've done - maybe a series of SUCCESSFUL drafting teams next? I look forward to it
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These are always dope, I love the retrospective point of view because I go back to see if I was right or wrong about these picks but we all can agree that NBA front offices have a bunch of Hams making decisions.
The Morrison pick wasn't bad. He was looking pretty good at the end of his rookie season, but suffered a catastrophic knee injury before the start of his 2nd season which never healed properly, which pretty much ended his career. The AD thing still is painful because instead of having a Kemba/AD duo, the league which owned the Pelicans, just magically happened to get a generational talent by winning the lottery.
Only reason people focus on MJ as an owner is because he's MJ. Most owners hire a GM and it's on the GM to run basketball operations. Yes MJ picked some bad GM's so I guess it's his fault lol.
@@jameshendricks6738 it's all about talent. Sometimes it's pure luck. Things could be a whole lot worse. We could have James Dolan (knicks owner) team has been horrible for 20 plus years.
Great video!! Very true at the end, I do think small market teams have it a bit harder, but there is no denying a team like Charlotte has wigged at almost every turn
Well it looks like Miles Bridges has All Star potentioal now, and Terry Rozier was better than Kemba Walker. Plus they drafted Ball and sign Hayward, the Hornets are trending upward finally.
They tried to put talent around Kemba. Lance Stevenson didn't work out, Al Jefferson was a 20 and 10 player but Kemba peaked as Al was declining. We went out and got Dwight Howard.. Nic Batum didn't show up after getting paid. So it's easy to say the organization didn't put talent around Kemba but things just did work out. The Batum contract is the reason we couldn't offer Kemba more without going into the luxury tax.. sad.
Benjamin Edmundson I only agree with 1 of the players that honestly didn’t work out with the Hornets. Honestly one Charlottes problems is over paying y’all shouldn’t of gave Nic Batum that much money you shouldn’t of gave terry rosier that much money either. The only thing I can say with terry rozier tho is that he is good just not as much you paid him. Also the hornets were shit at draft picks this last decade it one thing to pick a 1st rounder and doesn’t end up doing to well but the hornets took it further by drafting people with the same position and didn’t help their issue with spacing. I also feel like development comes into play I don’t think they help there draft picks get better. I hope Charlotte gets better I want the organization to do good
i think that the pelicans can surely turn things around with the likes of lonzo and zion. they need to wait for them to develop and they will become a playoff team. also get a better coach who can gameplan well
in 2012 Lottery, as worst team, Charlotte has 25% chance of 1st pick.... That means, statistically speaking, there's 75% chance it don't get the 1st pick....
David Stern gave New Orleans the pick so the NBA could sell the Hornets. Which is also why Chris Paul didn't go to the Lakers and with AD they sold the Hornets shortly afterward.
I wish someone would do a video on all the top draft picks that washed out only because of the situation they were drafted into. We see a lot of players come into form later in their career or after a trade so we know the right team can be as important as the talent. I wonder how many busts would still be busts if another team selected them
Pretty spot on, I’m a hornets fan. One thing you did miss out on was what came with the Miles Bridges trade, we ended up getting Devonte Graham with that 2nd rounder we pocketed. I loved Kemba, but Rozier has panned out as well. Excited for our future, hope we can trade for a center
You made some great points .. obviously they were making some terrible drafts picks “if they were planning on building the team solely from the draft” ... but I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to see how a player turned out & count it as a fail when that player may not have shown that much potential in college ... my point is, it’s easy to look back & point out mistakes after the fact but unfortunately none of us are psychic so i can see how these things can happen .. keep up the good work tho bro I love the content very entertaining!
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I agree with you that “small market teams are at a disadvantage” is BS. Any team can be a contender by drafting well, making good trades and surrounding their best players with the right role players.
Hmmmm how's Miles Bridges and Terry Rozeir working out now! Those were good moves. I totally agree with you on the Rich Cho years, but Mitch Kupcheck has done a great job rebuilding this team.
I'm watching after the 2021 draft and as a Hornets fan I have to say that in hindsight the decision to let Kemba walk was right the move. I also believe Miles Bridges has great potential and he has become a leader on the team. The new regime of James Borrego and Mitch Kupchak have drafted well and continue to do so with the additions of Bouknight and Kai Jones. I foresee our time as a poverty franchise is nearing an end.
