How the Marauders Map Was Created (+What Happened to It AFTER the War) - Harry Potter Explained 

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There are a few things I disagree with you about the marauders map. I think there's much more to the map than Homenum Revelio. I think there is some form of legilimency on the map as well. Similar to the magic of the sorting hat only a little less sophisticated. It would only encourage and give hints to how to use it to people like themselves. While insulting anyone else who it didn't deem worthy. They did forget to close one loophole. If you are told how to use the map you could use it regardless of whether you were worthy or not, hence Barty Crouch Jr. Being able to use it after Harry told Mad-eye (Crouch) how to use it. I also think that the map only works for places that the marauders themselves have been. I have no doubt that the chamber of secrets is unplotable but the marauders also never knew where it was. It's a little unclear whether Room of Requirement is unplotable or not. Draco did say that you can make it unplotable if you need it to be. That doesn't mean that it's unplotable at all times. It's entirely possible that the marauders never discovered the Room of Requirement in their time there. The biggest argument for this is Hagrid's hut. I doubt the marauders would have been as friendly with Hagrid as Harry was so it is highly unlikely that they would have dropped by Hagrid's for tea. It's also the place that Peter Pettigrew chose to hide after faking his death. Lupin also stated that he saw Harry, Ron and Hermione enter Hagrid's cabin and then leave the cabin with Pettigrew with them. He never said that he saw Pettigrew in Hagrid's hut. I would think that if Lupin had seen Pettigrew in hut when Harry entered. He would gone there immediately and not waited until they were outside. Also, as far as I can remember, the only common rooms that Harry has seen people in on the map are Gryffindor and Slytherin. He sees Draco in there when he was keeping an eye on Draco in Halfblood Prince. I can totally see the marauders sneaking into the Slytherin common room under the invisiblity cloak to mess with the Slytherins and in particular Snape. They probably wouldn't have bothered to sneak into the Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff common rooms since they wouldn't have had any animosity towards either of them. Also, Harry and Luna were using the map to get to the Ravenclaw tower in Deathly Hallows yet Harry never noticed Alecto Carrow in the Ravenclaw common room waiting for them? The Carrows didn't strike me as being smart enough to magically hide themselves in a way that wouldn't show up on the map and who knows whether they even knew about the map. Pettigrew may not have thought that it wasn't important enough to mention and if Barty Crouch Jr told Voldemort about it. Voldemort and the death eaters would have no idea what happened to the map after Crouch jr was caught. There would have been no reason to think that Harry would have gotten the map back, therefore, no reason to conceal one's self to not appear on a map. Therefore the map doesn't work anywhere the marauders have never been inside the castle and the grounds.

You don't explain how Fred and George figured out the phrase for operating the map.?

Agreed

Imagine if the wizarding world was as obsessed with ads as we were. They’d have to watch an ad pop up like a hologram everytime they wanted to use the map smh

I also got an ad at that same exact spot in the video 🤦🏻‍♂️💀 on the same word and everything man literally exact same spot as you did 😒🤨🙄

I have an Ad Skipper on my phone, so anytime a skipable add plays, it just skips it immediately. If it's not skipable, it mutes the audio. It's really handy if you don't have Premium

Snape, have you considered RAID SHADOW LEGENDS

Exactly! It's not a limitation as the guy explains in the video. The map benefits the reader of the map, so the reader can see through the deceptions of a Polyjuice potion/Invisibilty cloak/animagus. So that's a huge advantage for the reader of the Maruaders' map!

I really wouldn’t say it doesn’t show the whole name u only add sr or jr if it’s on a birth certificate so it said Barty’s name

he was already friends with them by then. it took james and sirius help for peter to become one.

It was Lupin who introduced Peter to James and Sirius. Because of Lupin, James and Sirius accepted Peter.

@@juniperlabor3489really, how do you know that ?

Could easily be integrated as the actual map you use in game and also could be a nice side mission where you help expand on the map to get you to explore the castle and grounds eventually becoming the blueprint to the marauders map

@@danlewis5977 Well I'm pretty sure that Hogwarts Legacy is supposed to be a few hundred years before Harry's time but it would be cool to have a similar map with quests like you said.

That would be cool, I would have more meaning than a map in the corner, we’ll know soon though

@@LoonyTonks it could be like the GTA maps, small section of it in the corner but a full one in the menu. Even if it's just the floor you're on but each secret you find is added to it as you go

@@unnamedweeb5391 hogwarts legacy takes place 7 or more years before Harry's time but after voldermorts death

Ikr, I also wondered that while reading the book

One common explanation is that the Marauders only appear to each other on the map.

@@DreadKyller That could be an answer I could live with. Thanks.

Harry never saw Peter on the map in the book, the film just added that

@@DreadKyller It's possible Peeves could have told them how the map operates. He certainly was around when it was created and would gladly have aided Fred and George in their mischief.

I think there is more to it. Filch, Peeves and Mrs Norris also appear on the map, and I'm sure they never got written into the book. Also, it makes no sense why someone who was, for instance, trained in a foreign school, wouldn't appear on the map. We never see it, but I think Igor Karkaroff would, despite never being a Hogwarts student. My theory is that the map is linked to the entrance itself. I book 3, the door is trained by Flitwick to recognize Sirius Black. I guess the Marauders put a spell on it to "register" anyone on the map who didn't appear on it before. For the real name, I'm sure there is a spell for it. The spell was never found on the door, as it does nothing else, and doesn't hurt anyone, ergo nobody thought to check it.

Never thought of it like that..😮

I suppose : Yes. But all hidden artefacts ...the place that room showed when a student has to hide something...will be destroyed. But as a trainingsroom for DA it still should work.

Wow, thank you!

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The Room of Requirement is also almost certainly unplottable.

This indeed.

I share in your disappointment although I will say both movies and books were a triumph in my opinion. Personally I'd have liked to see things through Peters eyes, he's portrayed as a runt like and evil figure but honestly I think at heart he was good just troubled like the other boys. There was an immense amount of love and darkness amongst the marauders, we get a sense of that but never a true taste, perhaps that is the nature of time and life, we only seem to get echoes despite our best endeavours.

Homunculus Charm implies to be a tracking spell of those targets, with a way to get around even the True Invisiblity Cloak, and Animagi antics The problem is a charcater shares the same name leading to Harry’s mix up of Father and Son in Goblet of Fire

It's been forever since I've read the books, but I believe so during the third one after the truth about everything with Pettigrew and Sirius coming to light.

Peter Pettigrew was Blanche

lol!

in the true canon, the books, peter wasn’t shown on the map. that was only in the movies.

That’s because it’s only a thing they had in the movies for suspense. In the books Harry never sees peters name once. The only person who ever sees peters name on the map is Remus, and both Remus and Peter created the map so it could be a thing where they only see each other

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Why would it? What other magical objects in the HP books stop functioning when the creator dies?

That's assuming anyone else had the desire to.

Well yes, I don’t think the philosophers stone would grant magic to a squib. As in they won’t be able to do magic but they would have that eternal life. In fact Nicholas Flamel is a real person who is a French scribe who built up a reputation of being a alchemist who was believed to have created and discovered the philosophers stone and had achieved immortality. So I don’t think the stone is based off of magic exactly, which was why his name was so hard to find.

@@clover2739 i know who irl nicholas flamel is. along with his wife who both have streets named after them in france. squibs cant do magic normally. however, the stone can do many things. its clear that the eternal life granted is magical in nature. to simplify my question: since squibs have the biology of witches/wizards would the introduction of magic into anatomy designed to manipulate magic gain any ability to control said magic as their anatomy is designed too?

@@thedailyracecar2064 the only way I can answer is that the stone would work with the squib that it does for everyone else

@@clover2739 * should work with a squib like it does for everyone else thats of magical biology. i understand why ud think that. Hope we can get an actual canon answer some day. Till then all we can do is speculate one way or the other.

@@thedailyracecar2064 I don’t think you got what I originally said, when I talked about the real life Nicholas Flamel I was saying that it’s more to do with him being an alchemist than a wizard. I don’t think it’s to do with magic, which is why it wasn’t easy to find him or stuff about the philosophers stone in most magical textbooks so I don’t think it’s necessarily to do with magic. Plus I think you’re confusing it, squibs and muggles can’t do magic, as in they can’t make stuff like potions or elixirs and spells themselves. However spells and potions and magical objects always work of them, even if they can’t see it or know it’s happening. A squib wouldn’t be able to make the stone but if the stone is already made it would work on them like everything else does.

Technically, as of the Cursed Child, it was, to James the 2nd… perhaps other successor Potters might be tested in yoinking it

the Weasley twins stole the Marauder's Map from Argus Filch's office

@@jamieA7Xfan90 Perhaps, but until the Map chose them, they couldn't use it. The Map chose them as it recognized them as being mischief makers Just look at Barty Crouch Jr. He could only use the Map because Harry had activated it. Barty couldn't clear it or reactivate it. Same goes for Snape, when he used the Map to chase down Lupin and the Trio. But when Snape tried to get the then deactivated Map to reveal its secrets, it rejected him and insulted him. I don't think that insult is specific to Snape, but an opening into the Map. If you recognize the invitation, the Map will reveal its password, and open itself, like the Portrait of the Fat Lady

Because James's animagus was a stag.

In the book the only person who sees Peter’s name on the map is Remus, Harry never sees peters name either. I guess it could be because the marauders can only see each other

I believe only James & Sirius were bullies and mostly towards Slytherin’s and Snape. James liked Lily who was friends with Snape…

Bullies can be in any houses. However, given its traits, it is really hard for bullies to be sorted into Hufflepuff.

@@paulyb7267 Weren’t Cedric’s friends very hostile and mean to Harry, i.e. Bullying…

@@genohall2235 To be honest, the whole school (except the Gryffindors) were very hostile and mean to Harry when his name came out of the Goblet of Fire.

@@paulyb7267 I agree, just pointing out an instance of Hufflepuff bullying.

Remus was already friends with Peter when they became friends with Remus, so he sort of came as a package deal. And they all shared a dorm, they're obviously going to become friends. And plus sirius and James are arrogant af and Peter acted like they were heroes, of course they'd keep him with them to feed their ego

Honestly that was part of why Snape and Harry initially clashed because on one hand he could see Lily in Harry but also could see the arrogance and overconfidence of James truth is he was really the only guy who knew that James was a massive prick and a bully

@@kurtpunchesthings2411 Shut the hell up about James, he wasn't a shitty person his whole life. James isn't responsible for Snape being a Death Eater, in fact Snape was already prejudiced against muggles before attending Hogwarts. The only difference between James and Snape is that James grew up whereas Snape didn't, something that an obnoxious Snape fan like yourself will NEVER understand. James was a lot more braver and ten times the person than Snape ever was. Also, James never 'took' or 'stole' Lily from Snape, Snape was the one who drove Lily away. Lily CHOSE to be with James, something you Snape apologist/fans are jealous. The one thing I will say about Snape though is he never really changed. Harry aside, he was a jerk to most of his students, look at how he treated Neville, as far as we know Neville’s parents didn’t do anything to him and yet he’s still an ass.

how could snape protect lily from voldemort, in case you didn't know snape was not better than james, he bullied the muggleborns during his years at hogwarts and called them mudbloods as a matter of fact that was the reason lily cut ties with him in the first place, he also was the reason of her death anyway love isn't something you can control whenever you want, lily was friends with snivellus but she never liked him.