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How to confuse a puffin 

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Bernadette Banner, Emily Graslie and Dani Siller ('Escape This Podcast') face a question about flummoxed fauna.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcast.com
GUESTS:
Bernadette Banner: ‪@bernadettebanner‬, / msbbanner
Emily Graslie: ‪@EmilyGraslie‬, / ehmee
Dani Siller: ‪@consumethismedia‬, / escthispodcast
HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
© Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2023.

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@korg47237
@korg47237 7 месяцев назад
We demand to see the photograph that was sent alongside this story!!
@MartheenCahyaPaulo
@MartheenCahyaPaulo 7 месяцев назад
Google for "Penguin-like puffins resurface on Maine isles" and you'll get an NBC article with the leading pic of exactly that
@tonypang83
@tonypang83 7 месяцев назад
@@MartheenCahyaPaulo Thanks for that!
@ToppyTree
@ToppyTree 7 месяцев назад
There's an NBC story under the headline "Penguin-like puffins resurface on Maine isles" which has a photo
@Zack_Wester
@Zack_Wester 7 месяцев назад
@@ToppyTree this one? media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1240w,f_auto,q_auto:best/ap/merb10108262035.jpg because the picture in itself is almost a meme I think or at least was used as a reaction meme or something.
@AltonV
@AltonV 7 месяцев назад
@@ToppyTree that was a cute photo
@seanboyd2898
@seanboyd2898 7 месяцев назад
My understanding is that it wasn't puffins being unsure of themselves, but that they are social enough to essentially not want they decoy to be self conscious.
@lucbloom
@lucbloom 7 месяцев назад
Asian puffins, they prevent shame by mimicking the established population’s folly.
@Anolaana
@Anolaana 7 месяцев назад
I'm not quite sure what you meant after "essentially" :S
@MyRegardsToTheDodo
@MyRegardsToTheDodo 7 месяцев назад
The puffins thought "Hey, they do it and survive here, so we do it too and survive too." And now you have short-term evolution of puffins standing on one leg.
@GoErikTheRed
@GoErikTheRed 7 месяцев назад
This reminds me of that time that researchers had to stop tagging birds with ankle bracelets because those with bracelets were seen as better mates by the other birds
@Cillana
@Cillana 7 месяцев назад
I think that was specifically colored bands. I haven't heard of that happening with silver colored metal bands.
@Chaotic_Pixie
@Chaotic_Pixie 7 месяцев назад
There's a few species of birds that the males line their nests with colorful bits of random stuff (usually feathers, but they'll use bottle caps, yarn bits, twist ties, whatever) but it must be colorful. The birds were getting into fights trying to steal the leg bands off other birds. The researchers had used different colored plastic bands because they're migratory birds & were using bird watching groups to just report in what color bands they saw where. It didn't work so well...
@SlyPearTree
@SlyPearTree 7 месяцев назад
Imitation is the sincerest form of puffinery
@filegnaru
@filegnaru 7 месяцев назад
Puffins are adorable. They kinda mimic what other creatures are doing as a way to socialize. So there's a lot of pictures/videos of them staring into the view finders of cameras when they join in with the photographers. "You do that thing? Ok, I do the thing too. We are friends now!" The pictures of them standing on one leg near the decoys are also adorable.
@arcanics1971
@arcanics1971 7 месяцев назад
Kea ARE a large parrot. The Kakapo is sort of like an owl crossed with a parrot. If you're ever confused which you are facing, look for the whiskers. The Kakapo, as well as being completely flightless, has whiskers around its beak. The Kea can fly, but they spend a lot of time on the ground and nest in the roots of trees.
@WhiskyOctober
@WhiskyOctober 7 месяцев назад
Kakapo also may attempt to mate with your head.
@AliceHankin
@AliceHankin 7 месяцев назад
To be fair, Tom was right, since Kākā are another type of parrot too!
@azathoth3700
@azathoth3700 7 месяцев назад
Also, Kea are startlingly intelligent and extremely curious/mischievous. While the Kakapo, with all the love in world, is a feathered rugby ball with a beak.
@LordClarkson
@LordClarkson 7 месяцев назад
They're different shades of green too, with the kakapo being a brightish green, and the kea being a dark green, with orange feathers under the wing.
@OlleLindestad
@OlleLindestad 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, Tom got Kea confused with kaka, which is its sister species. Kea live in mountains and are green, kaka live in forests and are more brownish.
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 7 месяцев назад
The puffins were only shown reruns of Miami Vice as rehabilitation. Nailed it!
@olivier2553
@olivier2553 7 месяцев назад
Why nail them? Are they dead?
@Omnilatent
@Omnilatent 7 месяцев назад
This is definitely one of my fav lateral questions ever. Adorable answer
@teamjay2837
@teamjay2837 7 месяцев назад
This story goes full circle. The flamingo lawn ornament was invented by Don Featherstone, a resident of Southwest Harbor, Maine. Every July there's a Flamingo Festival in the town, which is absolutely festooned with the plastic pink birds. It's incongruous seeing them among the rocky coast and pine trees and it's wonderful!
@petertaylor4980
@petertaylor4980 7 месяцев назад
Unlike toucans, puffins are surprisingly small. Until I saw them in real life I thought they were seagull-sized, but they're actually thrush-sized.
@Anolaana
@Anolaana 7 месяцев назад
I love Emily's facial expressions and gestures! She's so enthusiastic, I'm nostalgic for the Brain Scoop again!
@niklasbrandt7415
@niklasbrandt7415 7 месяцев назад
You might want to have a look at the brainscoop youtube page. There will be a relaunch.
@YouennF
@YouennF 7 месяцев назад
6:26 !
@seabream
@seabream 7 месяцев назад
I was happy to see that she's back on Brain Scoop a few days ago.
@uplink-on-yt
@uplink-on-yt 7 месяцев назад
"Why are we standing on one leg, dude?" "I don't know. It's tradition. We're basically too afraid to change."
@milksheihk
@milksheihk 7 месяцев назад
NZ has two largish parrots, Kakapo (world's fattest parrot) are the flightless ones with no predator response, the other large parrot is the Kea which can fly & does like to try to pull parts off cars.
@Ketraar
@Ketraar 7 месяцев назад
Guess we need a Prime Directive type thing for decoys! 😆
@bowel_movement
@bowel_movement 7 месяцев назад
Feels good to be able to sit a question out, even as a viewer!
@ezafcrash3986
@ezafcrash3986 7 месяцев назад
I was just at the Auckland Zoo back in August so I remember Kea facts! First off, yes! They are parrots. They’re adapted for cold weather and they live in the southern alps in New Zealand which means they’re the only alpine parrot species in the world! Also, yes, they do get very bored and they steal windshield wipers and blowout car tires. Also, they have a habit of killing sheep when they don’t have enough food. These birds aren’t very large so that’s pretty surprising!
@lightningwingdragon973
@lightningwingdragon973 7 месяцев назад
Once again, I ask you, where is Chris Joel, Ornithologist?
@MercenaryPen
@MercenaryPen 7 месяцев назад
Good question- he might have stood a better chance with a question about ornith-illogical behaviour like this
@mk_rexx
@mk_rexx 7 месяцев назад
Got the answer pretty late, when the SPOILER lawn flamingo was mentioned. I remember a sadder version of decoy birds story where someone recorded a lone bird (different species) trying to interact with the decoys. I don't remember if it was a happy ending where eventually the rest of the flock followed through or not. Edit: It was a bad ending. Nigel the gannet died beside its decoy mate while the island is still not repopulated. :(
@disaidra
@disaidra 7 месяцев назад
This is the first question on this show I've immediately known the answer to. Puffins are truly adorable
@tomcardale5596
@tomcardale5596 7 месяцев назад
Excellent typo on the "wringing the bird's legs" subtitle! Ringing the birds vs wringing their necks.
@grammy1620
@grammy1620 7 месяцев назад
Oh that makes so much sense now! And I thought wringing was some weird British slang
@tomcardale5596
@tomcardale5596 7 месяцев назад
@@grammy1620 you wring a bird's neck to kill it. You ring a bird's leg to identify it.
@markwright3161
@markwright3161 5 месяцев назад
@@tomcardale5596 Does that make wringing a bird's leg how you identify a dead one :) If only the puffins knew this. They could have identified the decoys instead of tiring themselves out by standing on 1 leg :)
@JulianDanzerHAL9001
@JulianDanzerHAL9001 7 месяцев назад
who could forget the story of the duck dealer in the parking lot
@Stirdix
@Stirdix 7 месяцев назад
My very first thought was that they were mimicking lawn flamingos; glad I was so close
@danieldaponte1819
@danieldaponte1819 7 месяцев назад
Emily's excitement is infectious! She's wonderful!
@fariesz6786
@fariesz6786 12 дней назад
poor puffins were just polite and adopted the local customs
@alexander0the0gray
@alexander0the0gray 7 месяцев назад
I’m from Maine and we visit the coast frequently. Puffins are a staple here, and there are all over our tourist brochures and they are a wonderful, native species - Literally never have seen one in the wild in my life 😂
@tehGazzy
@tehGazzy 7 месяцев назад
Same! I was made fun of in 3rd grade when I had to do a presentation on an animal native to Maine. I chose the Puffin, but as no one in my class, myself included, had ever actually SEEN a Puffin, everyone started calling me a liar and said that I had cheated on my project. 😅
@punksci6879
@punksci6879 7 месяцев назад
Kea are the only alpine parrots and are more distinctive than bored teenagers, Kākāpō are the big flightless parrots that will hump anything.
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson 7 месяцев назад
Kea are the only alpine parrots in NZ. But in Australia you get crimson rosellas living in the snow, just below the tree line all year round.
@jello3456543
@jello3456543 7 месяцев назад
I thought it was going to be that the reintroduced puffins were fostered by flamingos pre-reintroduction.
@JulianDanzerHAL9001
@JulianDanzerHAL9001 7 месяцев назад
a country sized bird sounds scary indeed
@Pandsu
@Pandsu 7 месяцев назад
They probably did it ironically at first and then just couldn't stop
@karenpost710
@karenpost710 20 дней назад
My favorite highlight so far!
@gigglesvids3561
@gigglesvids3561 7 месяцев назад
This is the first question I had seen the answer to online already! 😀 Cool to see Bernadette Banner here! Look forward to listening to the full podcast 😊
@QemeH
@QemeH 7 месяцев назад
"From back in... the american equivalent of medieval times." So... 100 years ago? :D
@timothyrosenvall1496
@timothyrosenvall1496 2 месяца назад
I hear mentioned the hunting of wild birds to extinction and I have just echoing around the back of my head in Will Seawards voice “Panthers”.
@valentinaaugustina
@valentinaaugustina 7 месяцев назад
i actually saw this exact island and the tour guides told us the same story. ahhh they are so so so cute
@JoelRipke
@JoelRipke 7 месяцев назад
I listened to this full episode yesterday, and this story made me belly laugh
@olafurw
@olafurw 7 месяцев назад
If you google "puffin maine one leg" you'll see plenty of adorable photos.
@Cillana
@Cillana 7 месяцев назад
When I think of flamingos I don't think of standing on one leg. I think of eating with your head upside down.
@CinnamonPinch
@CinnamonPinch 7 месяцев назад
Aww, this was the cutest Lateral question ever!!!
@MachineBone
@MachineBone 7 месяцев назад
I see Emily of the brain scoop fame and I click every time.
@TheLifeOfRyanB
@TheLifeOfRyanB 4 месяца назад
We owe it to the world to spread the puffin meme to all puffins
@neon-kitty
@neon-kitty 7 месяцев назад
The fact that Bernadette shook her head when Emily asks if they know the size of an American turkey xDDD. Her neck muscles were clearly on autopilot there.
@DrZaius3141
@DrZaius3141 7 месяцев назад
You can google "puffin standing on one leg" and will probably find the mentioned photograph.
@dannymac6368
@dannymac6368 2 месяца назад
As a Scot who lived near York, ME, I used to get slightly concerned when carrying my crossbow.
@thehangmansdaughter1120
@thehangmansdaughter1120 7 месяцев назад
Both Kea and Kakapo are parrots. Kea are the ones that fly, they're smart, cheeky and rip things off cars in alpine areas. Kakapo are a ground parrot, 64cm tall, nocturnal and highly intelligent.
@verdatum
@verdatum 7 месяцев назад
BWAAAAAA!!! It's Emily! SHE IS THE BEST PERSON.
@smithandshortdogs
@smithandshortdogs Месяц назад
This reminds me of the story of the deer in Czechia who will not cross into Germany because of the iron curtain.
@nadamuchu
@nadamuchu 7 месяцев назад
The puffins were wise to respect the ancient monuments left behind by their ancestors.
@RichardLordRix
@RichardLordRix 7 месяцев назад
Danni's reaction at the end is just so cute!
@dantower8268
@dantower8268 7 месяцев назад
Lol. Puffin imposter syndrome. I don't think I can even
@m4ciejmoskala
@m4ciejmoskala 7 месяцев назад
let's gooo I love these
@kf10147
@kf10147 7 месяцев назад
🥇
@jakeypakey2
@jakeypakey2 7 месяцев назад
Maine commenter here! Loved this
@allanrichardson1468
@allanrichardson1468 7 месяцев назад
Name a puffin Opus, tell him he’s a penguin, and put him in a comic strip!
@VonOzbourne
@VonOzbourne 7 месяцев назад
This is one of those ones where I had the idea immediately, (I've seen tetras that learned how to swim from a puffer and they were really weird) just not the part about the bird they picked up the habit from being not a real bird.
@BlazeClone
@BlazeClone 7 месяцев назад
lol, i wish we could watch the full podcast with video
@MrDannyDetail
@MrDannyDetail 7 месяцев назад
I hope that Tom wasn't asking 'were they wringing the birds legs', as per the subtitles, as that seems a rather cruel thought.
@beeb6730
@beeb6730 7 месяцев назад
I'm assuming it should be ringing, as in putting a marker ring on a bird leg which is common
@blockbertus
@blockbertus 7 месяцев назад
Has someone a list of podcast episodes outside of Lateral where Tom Scott was a guest in?
@teamcyeborg
@teamcyeborg 7 месяцев назад
They saw a bunch of plastic lawn flamingos and got jealous
@teamcyeborg
@teamcyeborg 7 месяцев назад
Oh wow I was actually very close that was a joke
@petenielsen6683
@petenielsen6683 7 месяцев назад
Opus (of Bloom County in the 1980s comic strip) was reminded that he resembled a puffin more than he resembled a penguin.
@Hannah_Em
@Hannah_Em 7 месяцев назад
awwww, the puffins got peer pressured by decoys into starting a trend
@crash.override
@crash.override 7 месяцев назад
Oh no, the researchers introduced a meme into puffins. Next thing you know, we'll have IRL Unpopular Opinion Puffins! 😨
@SheldonBird
@SheldonBird 7 месяцев назад
Wow, Puffin Fashion history is very interesting!
@Schenkel101
@Schenkel101 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if the puffins that stood on one leg were less likely to be hunted.
@johnsmith99997
@johnsmith99997 7 месяцев назад
500 years from now there will be a species of puffin evolved with 1 super powerful leg, only found in maine
@Rwededyet
@Rwededyet 7 месяцев назад
Meanwhile, the Puffins are wondering why we keep changing our clocks twice a year for no damned reason
@Gottrahmen
@Gottrahmen 7 месяцев назад
my first thought was that they were mimicking lawn flamingos, and then I thought about it some more and realized it didn't make sense (I think those plastic usually have two legs?), but very surprised to find out how warm I was
@paulmcmanus6222
@paulmcmanus6222 7 месяцев назад
Having adapted to standing on one leg. Then, finding out that made them the geeks of the avian world, they were so mortified that they decided there was no other choice but to emulate lemmings.
@TravelSoGood
@TravelSoGood 7 месяцев назад
So weird, I just released a vlog yesterday where we visited puffins in Wales! They really are as cute as they look in real life too.
@Phant0m51
@Phant0m51 7 месяцев назад
*crosses off puffin from the list of birds I want to eat one day* *makes note* "too cute"
@kf10147
@kf10147 7 месяцев назад
I know this one!!!
@empath69
@empath69 7 месяцев назад
Same - for like maybe the second time I actually knew the answer the moment the question was asked! :D (doubly great as I'm getting older and my memory is starting to get fuzzy - loads of times I'll feel deja vu through the video and when I hear the answer, that completes the connections in my brain and I'll be "oh yeah...dang")
@torche72
@torche72 7 месяцев назад
Did they reintroduce the decoys with 2 peg legs?
@thehun1234
@thehun1234 6 месяцев назад
I wonder if someone introduced one-legged puffin decoys in their British breeding areas, would the British puffins also start to stand on one leg only? Or would the "traditional" puffins thanks to their large numbers prevent this?
@timseguine2
@timseguine2 Месяц назад
Fun fact: Toucan eat as cheaply as one
@stapler942
@stapler942 3 месяца назад
I tried to verify this story and I could only find an article about the reintroduction project's success and the use of decoys and the picture used is a puffin which "appears to" mimic the decoy according to the figure text, but the article itself doesn't mention that behaviour occurring in general. The source of the claim appears to be an image with the same photo and a text caption saying this happened, which I'm inclined to take with a grain of salt.
@lateralcast
@lateralcast 3 месяца назад
There are quotes from Audubon staff running this programme here: www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna20462551
@stapler942
@stapler942 3 месяца назад
@@lateralcast I did read that exact article, but nowhere in the body of that article does a staff member claim that multiple puffins were observed standing on one leg. The only time this is mentioned is in the caption for that one photo, and it seems to be an editorial inference, not a statement about the general behaviour of puffins in Maine.
@lateralcast
@lateralcast 3 месяца назад
Puffins are very social birds and are fooled by decoys quite easily. The birds will interact with the decoys displaying various natural behaviours, some of which are mentioned by the Audubon people here: seabirdinstitute.audubon.org/conservation/atlantic-puffin-courtship-behavior-and-decoys
@phileo_ss
@phileo_ss 7 месяцев назад
I believe a lot of bird species stand/perch on one leg, not just water fowl.
@yurisei6732
@yurisei6732 7 месяцев назад
Flamingo standing on one leg is a regulation thing - they get fined if they don't adequately fit the stereotype.
@dustypartition
@dustypartition 7 месяцев назад
I was really hoping the answer was that they ate the same krill that turns flamingos pink.
@dantower8268
@dantower8268 7 месяцев назад
Puffin looking at the flamingo... How do I get to Miami?!?
@ghost307
@ghost307 7 месяцев назад
In one town in New Jersey, it's illegal to show a vasectomy scar to a nun while jaywalking.
@user-rk5vk8cx3p
@user-rk5vk8cx3p 6 месяцев назад
I had a male dog who from a young age lived with female dogs, who squat when they pee. I saw the male dog squatting, so making sure he was looking at me, I bent over at the waist, lifted a leg. The male immediately understood and from that day forward lifted his leg to pee.
@fakjbf3129
@fakjbf3129 7 месяцев назад
Fun fact about kea, they will land on the backs of sheep and use their sharp beaks to tear open the sheep’s skin to eat the subcutaneous fat underneath.
@theramendutchman
@theramendutchman 7 месяцев назад
No that's not fun, at all!
@MyInitialsAreCBD
@MyInitialsAreCBD 7 месяцев назад
I remember this from Qi: Quite Interesting.
@alaster555
@alaster555 7 месяцев назад
And hear was I thinking the researchers were using hand puppets to feed/teach the puffin hatchlings and they were noticing the arm as a single leg.
@SourceOfBeing
@SourceOfBeing 7 месяцев назад
0:25 - Did some of them basically get adopted or raised by the flamingos?
@tehvvisard
@tehvvisard 7 месяцев назад
This reminds me of the chimpanzee where they had bananas on a table and as soon as they went to grab one the set of sprinklers. After a while they learned to not touch the bananas and then the scientist introduced a new chimpanzee. When they (do we say they for animals?) went for the bananas the other chimpanzees tried to stop it. Eventually the scientist had replaced all chimpanzees with new ones one by one and the new ones had been learned to not touch the bananas but not why.
@WyvernYT
@WyvernYT 7 месяцев назад
It works the other way too. A friend's father worked with chimps and one day they got a new chimp, one that didn't know about the electric fence. All the other chimps gathered nearby as the new guy climbed a tree - and got himself zapped real good by the electric fence. Then all the others chortled to themselves, because they knew better than to do that.
@DuncanJimmy
@DuncanJimmy 7 месяцев назад
The Kea used to be one of my favorite birds until a farmer friend of mine angrily objected by explaining that they developed a taste for sheep meat as a result of farmers leaving carcasses hung out to drain the blood. The problem became so serious farmers killed approx. 150,000 of them before the government gave them full protection in 1986, though it was poorly enforced and numbers have now dropped down to less than 10,000. This, unfortunately, is what happens when a literal paradise for birds is invaded by humans less than 1,000 years ago who bring rabbits, stoats, rats, deer and other animals for recreational hunting and then get upset when the tables are turned after burning off as much forest as they can get their hands on. Since then NZ has created unprecedented reserves for native birds that are the envy of the world and entirely pest-free, though the struggle to prevent extinction of several species remains a real challenge due to the introduction of rats, stoats and other predators.
@Htonartnomed
@Htonartnomed 7 месяцев назад
Yes! the *BIRD* species :P
@dantower8268
@dantower8268 7 месяцев назад
The car / bird / kia connection?!? What are we not being told!?!
@asifeh
@asifeh 7 месяцев назад
I want to see the photo. Tom edit in the video please
@LiveFreeOrDieDH
@LiveFreeOrDieDH 7 месяцев назад
Now I wonder what other ways humans have been influencing puffin culture??
@gejyspa
@gejyspa 7 месяцев назад
And here I thought the answer was going to be that they were fostered in zoos by flamingo families before being reintroduced.
@KernelLeak
@KernelLeak 7 месяцев назад
Pop-Up Puffins on Maine?
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 7 месяцев назад
So; given their observant nature, how many episodes of The Magic Roundabout must the average puffin sit (or stand?) through, before they learn to take-off like Zebedee? More tea! : )
@dietznuts8106
@dietznuts8106 13 дней назад
currently at 5:12 and im gonna guess that they tuck the legs cos theyre mimicking the fake-animal/hidden-cameras that are all propped up on one shaft or something edit: okay i was almost right, but kinda missing crucial details. i'll take this as a 0.5. currently at 2.5 out of 62 on these im on fire🔥🔥
@WhereWasItLastTime
@WhereWasItLastTime 7 месяцев назад
Hmmm, puffins. Surprised that nobody's mentioned that if you were to see a puffin today, at the onset of winter, you might not recognise it as a puffin. That's because the outer bill moults, or falls off, leaving a smaller and duller-coloured bill - also, the dark markings around their eyes disappear. Every day's a school day and I claim my five points 😉
@user-gx1rk8yw6l
@user-gx1rk8yw6l 7 месяцев назад
"Imitation is the best compliment" (or something like that...)
@RFC3514
@RFC3514 7 месяцев назад
Tom, even if there was no gymnasium, you could have shot some hot kea-on-Kia action.
@TheGreatSteve
@TheGreatSteve 7 месяцев назад
I got it like halfway through.
@epiendless1128
@epiendless1128 7 месяцев назад
A brief search proves that _humans_ are not averse to behaving oddly when stood next to a statue. 🙂
@ltloxa1159
@ltloxa1159 7 месяцев назад
Mid video guess that was kinda in my brain from the start. They were raised by flamingos. Perhaps from the egg stage.
@kizi86
@kizi86 7 месяцев назад
puffins are cute AF, but they are so tasty..... ;) yum :P
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