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HOW TO REPLACE ENVOY TRAILBLAZER FRONT DIFFERENTIAL INNER SHAFT SEAL 

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HOW TO REPLACE ENVOY TRAILBLAZER FRONT DIFFERENTIAL INNER SHAFT SEAL
Hey Folks! Welcome back to the channel. In this video I show how to change the front differential inner shaft seal without completely removing the front differential. This is on my 2004 GMC Envoy four wheel drive. Hope this is helpful. #GMCEnvoy #FrontDifferential #KevinNadeau
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@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
Thanks for checking out the video. Let me know if it's helpful. I did not have to completely remove my front differential to change the inner shaft seal.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 года назад
this is pure genius!!! You should apply for a patent for this repair process. haha. I just poured in Titan Seal Repair - silicone polymer. I'll let you know if it fixes the seal from the inside out!!
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 года назад
Wouldn't the INner Shaft Seal leak be from the engine oil and not the differential oil? It's connected to the oil pan right?
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 года назад
Hi Kevin - if you watch this vid "Trailblazer Engine R&R" on the "realfixesrealfast" channel at 9 minutes they pull OFF that differential and you can see there is a silicone seal on the engine oil pan side also - not just the differential oil side. Or is that not a seal but just the aluminum molding that holds the differential inner shaft seal? Kind of weird - the oil has to be from the oil pan to go over that molding to the actual differential seal.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 I just watched that video and see what you're talking about. It looks like some corrosion on the machined surface of the differential where it meets the oil pan, not a seal.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 года назад
@@KevinNadeau OK thanks! So that differential seal is actually inside the oil pan with crankcase oil up against it - on the oil pan side of the differential seal "lip" that sticks out. Right? Sorry if I'm making too much out of this - I just figure there must be some oil pan oil up against that differential seal when the "inner side" is inside the oil pan.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
Kevin I just posted this on a stop leak channel vid.. someone was asking me about the Titan Seal. I'm not sure - I found reviews on other websites. So that's what sold me - also the concept behind it of a flexible silicone polymer (and not silicate) and also I knew that other "stop leak" products for oil didn't work so well since they actually weaken the seals by expanding the seals. Also I knew I needed to fix silicone seals and not rubber. I talked to them on the phone and email - a few times. Yeah it was definitely a risk but amazingly it worked! I only used half a bottle on my front differential. I need to bring the rest inside - not sure if it would like the winter weather. haha. I had to first take out the front diff oil - and I didn't take out enough to put in the full bottle. Turns out the leak stopped!! All I know is I have no more oil dropping down onto the garage concrete. So that's good enough for me. I suppose some of it is from getting my oil changed and the workers just don't clean off the oil well since the filter is hard to get to.... But I definitely had a leak on the front diff inner seal and it's super hard to get to on this car. The whole engine has to be - the front differential goes through the oil pan - the whole front drive train. It's a huge pain. One DIYer on youtube figured out a secret way of getting at that inner seal but I'm sure the "standard" way would be done by a typical mechanic. Unless I convinced them to do it this way that the youtuber figured out. haha. I didn't want to have to do that.
@kevinwashburn9687
@kevinwashburn9687 2 года назад
Nice job Kevin, very helpful. You boldly took chances that paid off and created a great reference for the rest of us GMT360 diehards.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words. I hope this video helps others with the same problem, and saves them time & money too👍
@boogerhead0
@boogerhead0 Месяц назад
Excellent! Just what I needed to know, have this to do on '04 TB. A+++
@fsu3784
@fsu3784 2 года назад
This video is gold man. Thank you!
@batsonelectronics
@batsonelectronics 2 года назад
I sold my 2wd Rainier a year+ ago, but I like to watch your videos to see how many miles you get from yours. I am rooting on 500,000 miles for your Envoy. Good luck.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
Thanks for the support! I would love to see a half million miles😁
@Sludge73
@Sludge73 Год назад
Absolutely awesome. Thanks for the tip
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
👍
@Drew-cz7hw
@Drew-cz7hw 2 года назад
Excellent video! I was dreading having to do this, your method is far less intimidating.
@petermiller5501
@petermiller5501 Год назад
Thank you! Was very helpful!
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
👍
@bradinch1563
@bradinch1563 11 месяцев назад
wow so cool, i was dreading this job so much, i was going to try this way, now i know it will work ,thank so much for this video.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 11 месяцев назад
👍
@cace1968
@cace1968 2 года назад
Hi Kevin great vídeo I made the same job thanks again.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
Thank you! Glad it helped 👍
@juiced71
@juiced71 2 года назад
I had to put 4wd bearing plate in my other trailblazer and the hub snapped flush with the pan! What a nightmare!!! Had to air chisel that sucker out ! As far as the half shaft goes the passenger side is threaded so you can grab a bolt with a washer run it in and use a pry bar it pops right out well mine did it’s about the only thing that came out easy lol I need to change the driver side outside seal now .. Did you replace that one also ? Need to find a part number I usually order through Amazon just wanna make sure I get the right one … Ps nice job bro!! All the problems I had with the passenger side well it almost became a 2wd! Lol But these are great in the snow!! It’s really the only time I drive the LS one 👍🏻
@Lifegoeson-nv9jv
@Lifegoeson-nv9jv Год назад
I use Napa seal, fit perfectly, one you have for passager side
@The1richman4u
@The1richman4u 2 года назад
I probably misspoke I'm not taking the differential out just trying to rotate it down to replace the inboard seal and was hoping the intermediate shaft wouldn't be in the way but after loosening it it doesn't seem like I can slide it back into the passenger side enough to rotate the differential down.
@AHLive215
@AHLive215 Год назад
Hey great video. I’m in the process of installing my seal. Do the the teeth on the back of the seal have to fit in the groves when installing the new seal
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
I think some of them will align naturally, but if I remember correctly, the two patterns are (teeth on the seal and groves) do not match exactly.
@patoneil7279
@patoneil7279 8 месяцев назад
hi,love the videoz,have one where you change diff,got a grinding noice in front drivers seal.i took off old seal and was told by some one i gotta change whole thing,any thoughts.thx
@patoneil7279
@patoneil7279 8 месяцев назад
mine came off easy-do you got a part number for that new seal,oh and if you can kindly tell me where to order from,id really appreciate that,thx
@tailsnake405
@tailsnake405 5 месяцев назад
Was wondering what seals you used for diff axle. I'm having a herd time finding them. I have 04 chevy tb ext
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 5 месяцев назад
Do you mean the outboard side of the front differential?
@CutThroat_Kid
@CutThroat_Kid 6 дней назад
My new seal measured a mm larger diameter than the one i pulled pulled out. And dang, i beat the hell out of the outter edge of the new seal during the install. Now im considering grabbing another and giving it another go before i put it back together. Definitely need a better punch to install it too. Did your new seal seem super tight and tough to hammer in? I had a real hard time pushing in the upper edge with the oil pan in the way.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 6 дней назад
@@CutThroat_Kid I don’t remember mine being that tough to install
@SteveBoffgridDIY
@SteveBoffgridDIY Год назад
Hey, I planned on a 2000 mile trip and replaced all front end parts trying to get rid of wobble at 60+ turns out my diff is no good. Do you think I can just remove the CV axles and run it till I can fix it properly after my trip?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
That should be ok as a temporary fix. I’ve
@vincentcarabello8829
@vincentcarabello8829 9 месяцев назад
Hey Kevin, great video man. Thanks for the info. How much if you took it to a shop to do that job?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 9 месяцев назад
Thank you 👍 I have no clue what a shop would charge, but I’m sure it would be a pretty penny 😀
@nlessdream1
@nlessdream1 Год назад
Is the seal supposed to be flush? I cannot get mine to get flush. Mine sticks out a little less than 1mm.
@user-uw2pm9mm3x
@user-uw2pm9mm3x 19 дней назад
So the prongs on tge seal dont match up because there are 12 slots on inner bearing and 14 prongs on the seal. So you just press it in until it cant go in anymore. The prongs get smashed which looks like tgey aren't needed since its just a seal/bearing. ??.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 19 дней назад
That’s how I understand it works 👍
@The1richman4u
@The1richman4u 2 года назад
A few things missing from the video. I couldn't get the intermediate shaft slid all the way in to the passenger side after loosening it from the dif. Did you have to disassemble the 4x4 disconnect on the passenger side to move the shaft over?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
Yes, you'll have to get the disconnect off to take out the intermediate shaft.
@The1richman4u
@The1richman4u 2 года назад
@@KevinNadeau I don't think any video on rotating the differential explains that.
@The1richman4u
@The1richman4u 2 года назад
@@KevinNadeau thanks for answering the question.
@avibuskila9823
@avibuskila9823 2 года назад
The seal in both side the same size and parts number? Thanks very helpful video!
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
These are the GM #s for the seals I used. Inboard (oil pan side) GM 1247-1617 Outboard (CV shaft side) GM 1925-7296
@avibuskila9823
@avibuskila9823 2 года назад
I can’t find the gm 1247-1617 it discontinued… Do you have any idea for replacement? 710688 tikmen or national seal 710688 can be replaced?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
@@avibuskila9823 Looks like Federal Mogul 710688 will work.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 года назад
Kevin can you clarify this for me - does the engine oil do to that inner shaft seal since the differential is attached to the crankcase via that seal? Or is it just differential oil that is leaking out of that inner shaft seal?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
It's just the diff fluid. There is no way for the engine oil to come out of the pan where the diff bolts to it.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 года назад
@@KevinNadeau oops - I gotta put that silicone fluid into the differential then. haha. thanks. Ever heard of this Titan Seal stuff? I have other seals leaking also - so it should help that at least. thanks for that clarification.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@@KevinNadeau Kevin I can't believe it but all summer I had THREE oil leaks under the car. I put that Titan seal silicone polymer in - it kept leaking. I was about to give up. I did a couple long drives. I forgot about the stuff. Next thing I know - so far NO leaks!! It's totally crazy. I only used HALF the bottle for the Front Diff. fluid since I didn't remove enough Front Diff oil to replace the FULL Titan bottle - 8 ounces. Still that 4 ounces appeared to have repaired and rebuilt the Silicone!! Totally crazy. All I know is there's no oil dropping under the car anymore - and it's been that way for the past few trips I've driven.... the last time I had three oil drips all the way up to the previous oil change. So it's not like the oil is too dirty or something - especially if it's Front Diff oil. hmm.
@Swainsgarage11
@Swainsgarage11 2 года назад
How did you put the intermediate shaft back in Great video man you helped me twist the axle down so I can replace the seal man it was a pain to do lol but it worked I should’ve videoed in detail the whole thing lol
@Swainsgarage11
@Swainsgarage11 2 года назад
Did you have to smack the intermediate shaft back in with a hammer or did it just notch in?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
Glad the video helped. I actually used a piece of threaded rod that I bought from Grainger. I forget the size bar, but the threads inside the intermediate shaft on the outboard side are the same size as the studs that hold the ECU to the side of the intake.
@Swainsgarage11
@Swainsgarage11 2 года назад
So you threated a piece of rod in the center of it and then you smacked it in? I’m in the middle of trying to put it in right now and I put the intermediate shaft through the oil pan and felt it notch in but it won’t go any further so if you could give me a tip on what I’m doing wrong that would be great thank you for all your help
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
@@Swainsgarage11 Yes, I just used the rod to hold the shaft steady. Dumb question - are you putting it in backwards? If I remember right, there is a c-clip on one end of the shaft, thats the end that goes towards the driver side.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
@@Swainsgarage11 I don't remember having to put much force on it to seat it. Its sort of like the half shafts, you can "click them in" by hand. Or at least I can on my truck.
@tapia8732
@tapia8732 Год назад
I have TB 02 4WD. I need to change the differential seals I’ve found the drive side but not the passenger, is it the same seal for both sides, My question is. the driver side can fit in the passenger side???
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
Do you mean the outboard (wheel side) and inboard (oil pan side) of the differential?
@tapia8732
@tapia8732 Год назад
Yes I guess,on the other side of the differential where the 4wd actuator goes connected . Thank you for the answer
@jonkoeniguer2816
@jonkoeniguer2816 Год назад
How did you put the intermediate shaft back in? The one through the oil pan?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
I used a small diameter rod threaded into the passenger side of the shaft to help push it in.
@jonkoeniguer2816
@jonkoeniguer2816 Год назад
@@KevinNadeau thank you! Had I known about a week ago it came out I’d be more than a quarter of the way done. I’m trying to go in through the top but with the shaft still in!! I saw your video after I tried this way. Thanks again
@shalvajulukhadze5816
@shalvajulukhadze5816 Год назад
can you help me mate? seals are same for pass. end driver side?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
I’m not sure, but would check on GM Parts Direct website
@pontiacsrule8761
@pontiacsrule8761 2 года назад
Nice truck BTW. Very clean underneath. You must not live where they use salt. Since you know those Envoys so well, do you know the answer as to the slight flickering of the lights & dash? Seems to be a common problem with these truck Can't believe there is no cure for this. It's not the Alternator BTW. If anyone knows the answer to this is you. Thanks, Andy
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
Thanks Andy. I'm in North Carolina and my truck doesn't see much salt. I'm not sure about the flickering, my lights don't seem to do that. My first thought is you may have a bad/loose ground somewhere. Disclosure - electrical work is not my forté 😁
@MikoTactical
@MikoTactical 10 месяцев назад
Mine did this. Engine running rough at idle as well? Try replacing your secondary air check valve. Fixed my issue.
@andreotchere6456
@andreotchere6456 5 месяцев назад
Is the inner diameter of the seal for the inner side of the differential the same size of the outer side that goes in the cv axle?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 5 месяцев назад
If I remember right, they are two different part numbers
@andreotchere6456
@andreotchere6456 5 месяцев назад
@@KevinNadeau #1 so you’re saying I have to take the seal out again😢
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 5 месяцев назад
@@andreotchere6456 is it leaking?
@andreotchere6456
@andreotchere6456 5 месяцев назад
@@KevinNadeau no sir
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 5 месяцев назад
@@andreotchere6456 I’d let it roll them 😀
@jameslogan1922
@jameslogan1922 Год назад
TY
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
👍
@AdrianRodriguez-sx8lq
@AdrianRodriguez-sx8lq 2 года назад
I need help with my transmission bro
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
What's wrong with it? Not sure I can help much.
@nathanmace3936
@nathanmace3936 2 года назад
How many hours do you think you had in this job?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
More than necessary because I was filming along the way. But if i didn't have any distractions I would guess about 3-4 hours would be enough (I don't like to rush a job like this 😁)
@cace1968
@cace1968 Год назад
Hey body thanks can You give the part number of the seal please?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau Год назад
It’s in the description of the video 👍
@theboogyman4985
@theboogyman4985 2 года назад
I changed mine after 150000 miles, both side seals, and CV axles, they leak like oil pressure switch
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
👍
@bradinch1563
@bradinch1563 11 месяцев назад
well that sucked. 4 hours of trying to get it turned.we got it where i think we could have get the seal out, but never get the new one in. i think you got the lucky bounce. also if you do this job take the passenger side apart ,change the seal s ,but most important thing is to grease the roller bearing they dont use oil. mind where bad. if you are going to try this way, well good luck ,my truck is now 2 wheel drive till i change the motor
@Thepurpleguerrilla
@Thepurpleguerrilla 2 года назад
What is that god awful noise at 8:49 and beyond in the background?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
🤣 That was my 1 year old on the baby monitor
@Thepurpleguerrilla
@Thepurpleguerrilla 2 года назад
Also I’m doing this on a Buick rainier 2006 I cannot for the life of me get this differential to the position you have it at to put the seal in. Did you have to do any prying on the motor or some kinda trick?
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
@@Thepurpleguerrilla No prying or anything crazy. I just had to figure out the right position to move the diff. Took a little trial and error, but nothing special. You did remove the half shaft and propeller shaft right?
@Thepurpleguerrilla
@Thepurpleguerrilla 2 года назад
Yeah I did…I went ahead and took the drivers side motor mount out. Jacked the motor up and boom!!! the seal is facing straight down to the ground. I have a 2006 Buick rainier with the 5.3. Something’s got to be slightly different or I just couldn’t find that sweet spot. Either way this video saved me a ton of money. I was gonna take it to a shop until I found your video.
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 2 года назад
@@Thepurpleguerrilla Awesome! 👍 I'm glad to everything worked out for you!
@w8what575
@w8what575 3 месяца назад
Yeah….ummm….wow….this shite is above my head! All I’m looking for is to make sure that I’m not forgetting something or what to look for when replacing my cv shafts on my trailblazer….wtf? I think I’m gonna put this pig back together clean it up and sell it lol….I can fix about anything but god damn! Chevy is an effing joke anymore
@ronniehall5787
@ronniehall5787 4 месяца назад
Don't like this video at all
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 4 месяца назад
How could I make it better?
@ronniehall5787
@ronniehall5787 4 месяца назад
Less talking and not moving the camera as much show how it's done in a timely manner , I mean no bad things towards you thank you
@KevinNadeau
@KevinNadeau 4 месяца назад
@@ronniehall5787 I appreciate the feedback 👍
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