How Tywin Lannister earned the name of the Great Lion of the Rock in Game of Thrones / ASoIaF Thumbnail art by -www.deviantart.com/nachomolin... Contact ► whycreatevideos@gmail.com Twitter ► whycreator
@Blaklyon Den Radio There is a fanfiction, the "Wolf among lions". It has more than 100 chapters. The main characters are Arya, Tywin and Jaime. In the beginning Littlefinger revealed Arya to Tywin and it is changed the whole story. If you liked the Arya Tywin scenes then it definitely worth to read.
You don’t get it. No one will respect and or fear house Lannister if some hideous dwarf is heir to casterly rock. This is medieval times, not today’s pc society where we just love and embrace everyone for all their “differences”. That shit doesn’t fly in the 7 kingdoms.
At the height of his power, after he had brought the 7 kingdoms peace and prosperity he went and had a dwarf that everyone laughed at him for. “The lion has been humbled by the gods.” Whats worse? His lady wife died giving birth, the one thing he loved in this world. The sole reason Tyrion still lives is because Tywin decided not to throw the grotesque infant over some mountain because no matter if he was a monster or not, he was still his son. Tywin decided to give him a chance and Tyrion simply lived to disappoint him.
Tywin resembles so many historical figures. As it seems becoming powerful demands being cruel to a certain level. Both a hero and a villain to me Tywin definitely one of the best written characters in the ASOIAF circle.
@@Brandonhayhew I haven't read much about them but if you say so. I personally thought Byzantine Emperor Basil II the Slayer of Bulgarians and Tzar of Russia Peter the Great. I'll make sure I read about King Eduard and John of Gaunt though.
@@Angelo-nd4lg why would he face a child prodigy when he had a safer alternative that solved multiple problems at once? His Legacy is regaining his houses status after his father's misrule and in this he was immensely succesful. Tywin failed as a father that was his downfall.
All he did in the end was wreck his own legacy. By not paying attention to his mental disturbed children. An treating Tyrion like he was a Frey who broke guest rights by murdering his mom. He also forgot karma is a bitch.
Tywin is a fascinating character. You could say he’s a villain, but he really was someone who knows how to get shit done. That’s the beauty of the ASOIAF. None of the characters save for a couple of them fall into the normal troupes that are in the fantasy genre. It relied on realism and those troupes were turned on their heads.
@@AeneasGemini I love tywin he was so capturing and badass and the lannisters are the most iconic house imo. You could call them villains but asoiaf is filled with grey characters it's not black and white so no one's a hero nor a villain
From the point of view of the main characters (Tyrion especially), he does indeed come across as a villain, but is he though? He commands respect of his lords and is somewhat loved by the small folk (not very much, of course, but well enough). He seeks order, stability and prosperity, as well as the maintenance of greatness and respect his house has. Essentially he seeks to bring peace and stability to Westeros, albeit on his own terms. I would hesitate to call him a villain. But then, NOBODY is either perfectly good or bad in ASOIAF. Still, compared to many other lords, who simply try to advance their positions without much regard for the realm, I think Tywin is a pretty good character, with some dark touches to him. EDIT: And by the way, when he served as hand to The Mad King, the realm prospered and stability ruled. And this despite the Kong’s wild schemes, unpredictable nature and bad temper.
Tywin is a villain. He removed Aegon V's reforms that gave the commoners rights, he broke sacred laws and traditions, traumatized Tyrion, and allowed his men to rape, pillage, and commit entire genocides.
@@gfilmer7150 although Tywin does some fairly terrible things, that does not inherently make him the ‘villain’ as that would mean that there must be some foil provided to stand in as the ‘hero’ and last I checked there is not one person who is an accurate foil for Tywin... interestingly enough Tyrion is considered by many to be a ‘hero’ of the story and yet of all the Lannister descendants Tyrion is the most like Tywin... imho people need to stop trying to find heroes and villains as the human experience isn’t very good at making either of those things.
No. I think armies give you power. Robb Stark had one, never lost a battle, and you defeated him all the same... Oh, I know. Walder Frey gets all the credit... or the blame, I suppose, depending on your allegiance.
If we look at this from a historical perspective. Tywin = Edward I of England Tytos = Henry III Tarbeck/Reyne = Simon de Montfort The rebellion is similar to the second barons war where Simon de Montfort rose against the weak Henry III. But Prince Edward rose a royal army and utterly crushed the rebel barons in battle.
Tywin Lannister is inspired byJohn of Gaunt and King Edward the first. His back story is very similar like Reyne and Tarbeck rebellions is Simon de Montfort, the Fifth Blackfyre rebellion is like the 9th crusade in which a young prince Edward son of the ineffective king Henry the third (Tyto Lannister, ineffective leader). Edward and John both were great political and impressive military leader, ruthless leader but effective.
Everyone notice the symbolism in the picture at 11:50. Jaime looking smug next to his father with his right arm being covered by glove to indicate him losing his hand. Cersei sitting pridefully, right next dolls to indicate her children, a goblet probably to indicate her status a Queen. An a toy castle to indicate what is symbolizes the Red keep. An Tyrion looking sad having a bow to Symbolize Joffrey's crossbow and a arrow pointed directly at Tywin.
And if you really think about it. The children are laying in the way they died. Tommen I'm assuming died face down in the show after he committed suicide. I've not read the books so not sure if they even get to him dying. Joffery laying face up near the goblet due to poison. Her daughter (blanked on name) laying in a boat as she died due to poison on a boat in the show.
I think when Tywin sacked the city he also felt a degree of satisfaction to stick it to the king. After all he had worked tirelessly and all the king ever did to reward him for all that work was trying to sabotage and undermine him.
As an author, I have to thank you. It's content like this that gives our stories - in this case Martin's stories - such vibrantly long lives once the last page has been turned. Really good stuff. :)
if I'm not mistaken, Gerion in the books is missing, not dead. granted he probably is dead but you know... nobody saw his body so... he could still be out there!
You are right, he went off to find the Lannister's family sword, "Bright Roar". Its rumored he got shipwrecked on his way to Eastros and is most likely dead.
Correct. He went off to Valyria in search of an old heirloom and never returned. This uncle of Tyrion’s was always kind to him… so could have been a good guy, or (since it’s Tyrions POV we get this story) he might have been The same cunning asshole Tywin was but just gave Tyrion Love…
@@skellymelly8481 No, Tywin WANTED her to be but basically, The Mad King was salty that Tywin was getting all the credit for how well the Kingdom was being run (even though he was running it) so he rejected Tywin's proposal for the marriage and assigned Jaime to the Kingsguard to rob Tywin of his heir to Caslterock. Sorry if I misspelled the land.
I always think Tywin was dumb to offer Tyrion for Elia. The key was to remove the competitors for Rhaegar's hand in marriage so Cersei could marry Rhaegar. *Princess* Elia was far stronger competition than *Lady* Lysa Tully and Dorne is a better ally than the Tully's. I don't know why Tywin didn't set up the Elia/Jaime match to leave the route more clear for Cersei and Rhaegar. If Jaime took Elia, who would Rhaegar take? Cat/Lysa= never royalty. Lyanna Stark = maybe too young/promised to Robert. Ashara Dayne = maybe too young but Aerys is 1/4 Dayne, so it's maybe an option. Other minor house = possible, but Aerys prefers houses with more status.
@@itsyaboi921this was before Jamie was appointed to serve as a Kingsguard. Tywin rejected the betrothal offer not long after Joanna died, when Jamie was still a boy.
5:23 I like how far Tyrion is from is other siblings here to subtly represent how much his family distances themselves from him. Also, I didn't even realize that song at the Red Wedding was "The Rains of Castlimere" (apologies if I misspelled it). I only recognized it as the credits song for The Purple Wedding.
Before the Red Wedding happened I got this uneasy feeling that something bad was going to happen (it was my first time watching the show and I avoided spoilers) and like everyone else I was horrified when it happened
I found your vids recently and I can't stop watching them. As someone who hasn't read the books yet the amount of information and lore behind everything is truly amazing and awesome. Subbed!
@@rendrarifaldi3469 a lisp wouldn't make someone mishear the difference between 9 and 5. There is no "s" or "th" sound in the words "war of the five penny kings" or "war of the 9 penny kings" so a lisp isn't an issue of mispronunciation, he made a mistake but that is fine, we all do it sometimes. But a lisp had nothing to do with it.
It’s kinda sad to see how the Lannister’s in the books are actually crumbling, be it from Stannis, the faith, the Tyrells, the Dornishmen, the Golden Company, and the Riverlands, with probably the North and Vale looking likely to also attack the Lannister’s, along with Dany and the Others. Also, who do you guys think Dany would’ve gone after first, the Baratheon’s or the Lannister’s?
I think the Golden company taken care of the Baratheon by Young griff. Dany is likely target the Lannister for killing her father and her sister in law Elia
I feel like the Lannister rule over the Westerlands aretrult at an end. After Cersei is dead or deposed, there will be a House Baratheon of Casterly Rock. Tyrion could get it but I don’t think he will as literally everybody hates him in Westeros and don’t think Daenerys will give Casterly Rock to him.
Love how Genna Lannister looks like a man in the family tree at about one minute in 👍🏻 And it makes me really sad that the awesome Castamere home was completely destroyed. It would have been so fun to have a house that was 90% underground (except for the whole danger of flooding...). Don't know what Tywin expected from Dorne, offering *Tyrion* as a husband for Elia 🤦🏼♀️
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UncoverTheNews the last name given to bastard children are based on where they’re born. E.G, Jon Snow (northern Bastard) Brendan Rivers (river lands bastard) Elaria Sand (Dornish bastard) etc.
@@Seafood-jj1dn most have the name from the region where they were born and/or raised, but its not a rule. examples: Brynden Rivers is born in the Crownlands and raised in the Crownlands, he is a Rivers because his mother was from the Riverlands. Obara Sand born in Oldtown but not a Flowers
Find it crazy how so many people defend Tywin and proclaim him one of the greatest characters. Let’s say he’s admirable, sure - he raised his house from a joke to one of the most feared houses in Westeros. But shit, Hitler lifted Germany from the Great Depression into an imperialist state, is he now admirable? Tywin slaughtered innocent women and children to make his house great. He was an evil man. And at the end of the day, he lost, it was all for nothing. He failed to create a legacy and ended up dying on the toilet - all because of his cruelty towards Tyrion. His cruelty destroyed his legacy, and ended up with his humiliating death. So many people fail to see the bigger picture with these characters - Tywin achieved many short term successes for his house, but he failed in the long term, catastrophically. And he only has himself to blame.
You should do a video on the biggest structures in ASoIAF. It would be awesome to learn how big the Five Forts are and if they're close in size to the Wall.
Bradley Westerman he did. But in the books Jamie tells Tyrion about the truth of Tysha, that she wasn’t a whore and that she truly loved Tyrion. Because of that Tyrion killed Tywin, in the books
Being a nice guy is critical to being an effective leader, a little popular support can go always, but you cant rule if all you do is speak the approval of others
6:50 I think Kevan's submission came more out of comfort and duty than weakness. Some people prefer receiving orders than giving them. I do think that if Kevan lived longer he would have let go of the throne as soon as he could as it really isn't what he likes. 8:50 I don't think that is impossible. After all it could have been both, Tywin is one who would try to solve multiple problems.
Actually I think that Tywin only weak more the position that the Lannister had in the realm that his father ever did, Tytos was a very weak Lord, but Tywin policy of making the other nobles fear you instead of respecting you only made the numbers of the Lannister enemies grow over the years, that, and the fact that Tywin was more worry about his legacy than his actual family, and his totally recklessness and blindness when it come to his immediate family made all fall apart in the end, let not speak that Tywin was a total hypocrite, bashing Tyrion for the same sins that he did in secret.
@@LegendInThaMakin Did that fear save Aerys? You push people hard enough and they will push back no matter the cost. However if they love you, they will follow you to the deepest hell, not because of fear, or because they have to, but because they want to, and this is much more powerful than simply forcing people to do your bidding. @some guy He died knowing he did the right thing with his honor intact and his legacy remembered. Can you say the same thing when you die?
I think tywin did see and appreciate tyrion, he knew he was smart and cunning, why else would he make him the hand of the king, at one of the most crucial times, tywin did turn to his son when he needed him the most because he was desperate.
The westerosi sure are creative when naming their heroes. The guy is a Stark? The Wild Wolf! A Tully? The Black Fish! A Targaryen? Dragon something. At least the Red Viper doesn't have a damn snake in his coat of arms
it would be quite amusing if it was ever divulged that Jamie, Cersei where fathered by Aerys.... and Tyrion also... banging Johanna.... Which would mean that House Lannister has been "dead" of heirs long time ago and after Kevan and Lancel also gone then ALL direct line to Tytps was gone gone gone...... Nice family portrait at 12:06 .... Charles Dance with hair!!!!
