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HSE: The Waking World - Lands, Consorts & Denizens 

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In this episode, we cover the mechanics behind each Sburb player’s individualized planet, the Lands. We explore the nature of their Consorts, and dive deep into the story-spanning importance of the Denizens as both game mechanics and mythological symbols.
Don’t worry if this one’s a little overwhelming! I’m still learning how to talk about this stuff, and I’ll definitely be covering the same material in different ways over time. Next episode will have us looking over Xefros’ complex and interesting Classpect. Thanks for watching, and please feel free to leave your thoughts!
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@raijufulger7575
@raijufulger7575 6 лет назад
Wasn't Dirk's Denizen Yaldaboth as well? i don't remember if that was officaly confirmed or not but i recall the iconogrophy on his planet was similar enough? I would postulate that Yaldaboth is given to players with highly destructive tendencies and Combat ability. Beta timeline Dirk has mildly psychotic tendencies which are also mirroed through the A.R. Alpha timeline Dirk was thankfully able to manage these feelings in a much healthier way and is much better off for it. But on the flip side Dirk is tied into Lord English so the mark of an antagonist is there as well
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
Dirk's denizen was explicitly Yaldabaoth, yeah. I decided not to include that detail because my view is that Alpha Dirk, as an entity distinct from Bro or AR, is severely misunderstood in the fandom. I didn't want to skew towards feeding what I view as misreadings of him by linking him to Caliborn without the context. And there's a lot of context. Including Dirk and AR in this particular video would almost definitely have added a solid five minutes of bloat to the video. Just another one of those compromises I have to make sometimes to make this stuff accessible, but we'll definitely be talking about Yaldabaoth, Lord English, Dirk and AR again. The tl;dr version is that you're right. AR, specifically, qualifies as another version of the myth of Yaldabaoth. He's stated to be omniscient as a post-singularity computer and comes to dominate the Alpha kid's reality for a while, and eventually AR, like Caliborn, becomes Lord English through Arquis' heroic sacrifice. Caliborn and AR share another similarity--they're both described as stunted and unable to grow up, just like Equius and Gamzee, LE's other two components. Caliborn because he cheated by killing Callie's dreamself, AR because he's frozen in time as AI, Equius because he's a ghost, and Gamzee because...that's how much he sucks, I guess? Dirk more accurately fits the role of Sophia, foolishly making a mistake that creates AR in the first place. Alpha Dirk's character arc deals with his self-loathing tension with his own potential to be like Yaldabaoth, but he himself is one of the most noble and well-intentioned characters in the comic. God I want to talk about the Alphas. It is a trial being patient enough to lay out the groundwork until we get to them.
@raijufulger7575
@raijufulger7575 6 лет назад
I would Say Gamzee is a Yaldabaoth because he refuses to learn and change. He Desires Ignorance (He stated as much to Karkat in one of his earlier aperences in the story stating it "Stole all of the magic out of my miracles"). He has a big connection to void(the destruction of knowlage) too. Going out of his way to "Void Out" parts of Rose's book with Equis' blood and in an alternate time line scrawling his part of the code in a book teaching code. Gamzee's entire purpose in the story is essentialy to inspire hatred and Malice in the reader actively destroying logic and reasoning through his existance. He has literal clown based Plot Armor and is a liveing Deus Ex Machina.
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
Yup. It's implied Karkat had Abraxas, so if I were to guess, I'd say Gamzee had Yaldabaoth (he definitely also qualifies for the "naturally gifted warrior" bit) and Equius had Nix or some other Void-coded denizen. Those are just guesses, though--I don't think anything tells us either way for those two. Karkat has about as many connections to both Cherubs as Jake does, btw--just another thing I cut for brevity, but it makes the fact that he's linked to Limebloods on Alternia quite interesting.
@raijufulger7575
@raijufulger7575 6 лет назад
I'll deffently have to go back and re-read homestuck again, i completly missed karkat's connection to Abraxas. Your Vidoes have inspired a intrest in Gnosticism for me i'll have to do more research to be better infromed. I've missed exchanging ideas and thoughts like this.
@nerdorama009
@nerdorama009 6 лет назад
I think that Yaldabaoth as Dirk's Denizen, and Dirk's lengthy personal, art-related conversations with Caliborn, mark both of them as creators and specifically as partial self-inserts of Andrew Hussie, the flawed (but not as bad as Caliborn) creator of the material world of the comic. Specifically, Dirk plays out several of Hussie's more questionable acts of creation in real life, with Caliborn standing in for the anonymous online Id that inspired them, and then later Caliborn is inspired by Hussie's literal in-universe self-insert (who tries vainly to impart some wisdom on his younger, dumber counterpart) to become an artist himself. There's also more than a few connections between Dirk's alternates and Yaldabaoth as well - the Red Sun of Dave's childhood standing in for the watchful eye of Bro, and L'il Hal as someone Dirk viewed (incorrectly) as all his negative traits ends up becoming part of Lord English. Yaldabaoth as a symbol for Dirk is absolutely there, he just means different things depending on "which" "Dirk" we're talking about.
@butterflytaster5553
@butterflytaster5553 6 лет назад
One thing I find interesting about Nyx is that her corresponding goddess in Greek mythology is the night itself, but through coupling with the darkness Erebos, she produced Aether and Hemera-- *light* and day. Void-bound Roxy's denizen is Nyx, but through ectobiology she had Light-bound Rose. It's a cool little nod to the source mythology. I don't know know if anyone ever mentioned this before, but I thought it was a fun little tidbit to share.
@chroni3659
@chroni3659 6 лет назад
From Wikipedia: 'Within circus culture, "kAHl-ee-ohp" is the preferred pronunciation. Outside of the circus community, "kah-LY-oh-pee" is typically used. Both are correct.' Congrats OD, you're part of circus community now.
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
hOnk :o)
@maph12
@maph12 6 лет назад
In that same article it references that the muse is pronounced "kah-LY-oh-pee", while the instrument is pronounced "kAHl-ee-ohp", and Calliope herself has no allusion to carnivals or circuses outside of her connection to Caliborn that I'm aware of. On the other hand she's clearly a reference to the Greek muse Calliope. On top of that, I'm not sure I'd trust carnies for word pronunciation. While we're on the topic of how words are said, "faux" is pronounced like "foe". It's french.
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
Yeah I'm joking here but I fully intend to adopt the "Kah-ly-oh-pee" pronounciation going forward. It just sounds clearer for audio, too--the only reason I haven't is force of habit.
@corvuscorax8639
@corvuscorax8639 6 лет назад
Actually, there are some interesting connections. Hussie is self-referencing here to his previous comic book titled "Whistles: The Starlight Calliope", which takes place in a circus. Whistles, its main character, can be seen as a draft version for Homestuck Calliope (Gamzee also take from him some assets). For instance, both introduce a "theatre within theatre" motif to the main story.
@supercrab221
@supercrab221 6 лет назад
maph12 she was raised by a clown my dude
@KingKRinge99
@KingKRinge99 6 лет назад
6:02 Vriska also lived right next to the Heir of VOID, Equius and was concealed from Doc Scratch by the cue ball
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
Hahahaha oh god yeah Rose ALSO lived right with a Void player, didn't she? And Aranea is introduced to us in the literal Void of the Furthest Ring. Sometimes I get so tangled up in the obscure symbolism I miss the absolutely obvious xD Thanks!
@Flyingcreeper98
@Flyingcreeper98 6 лет назад
I'm kinda thankful that this fandom still lives
@johnwashburn4938
@johnwashburn4938 6 лет назад
same
@atomykebonpyre
@atomykebonpyre 6 лет назад
OH BOY SON... THIS UNIVERSES SESSION OF SBURB WILL START BEFORE THIS FANDOM DIES. :]
@terilerke1849
@terilerke1849 4 года назад
@@atomykebonpyre or we can accept that we live in a doomed timeline where the frog that we inhabit is probably infertile and won't produce an offspring, rendering it useless and thus leaving it for death via the, well, "heat death of a universe" or something in a short while (by it's lifetime standards, I mean) Unless someone finds the Frog Temple with the code lol
@cyberparadox3425
@cyberparadox3425 4 года назад
Same
@ventusthekey5187
@ventusthekey5187 6 лет назад
I never really understood the connections of the denizens to the characters, this was really helpful.
@ichwitoek9669
@ichwitoek9669 6 лет назад
Great video, very informative. I think I'm going to try designing a Land because I'm bored. Since I based my title (Rogue of Time) around my tendency to procrastinate for no good reason (shit, I'm doing it right now, aren't I), it'd make sense if my Land reflected this. So, procrastination. That's a bit too broad for a Land modifier, if you ask me, so let's think about what procrastination is associated with. Procrastination -> Deadlines -> Schedules -> Trains Trains are pretty specific! Let's go with that. Now, "Trains" is all fine and dandy, but a train is also related to Space, in that it is a device designed for spatial transport, so it might make sense to have the second Land modifier be more clear on the fact that this Land is for a Time-player. Since "Trains" is already so nicely specific, though, I can quite easily use something like "Procrastination" as my second Land modifier. However, that's a bit too on-the-nose for my taste. Let's make it a bit harder to see what the Land is about! Procrastination -> Laziness So, Land of Trains and Laziness. My main idea for this Land is "Something something Western movies" (since, y'know, trains), but apart from that, I don't have anything too specific in mind. Maybe a bunch of trainyards and definitely lots of railroads between the towns. As for the Land's quest, I do have a few more ideas there. The consorts in this Land treat the train conductors like celebrities. The problem is that these train conductors are the denizen's double agents. Actually, they're not even train conductors. They just say that they are and postpone the actual conducting until their shift is over. The quest is to expose the double agents and find ways to get their jobs done afterwards. As for the consorts, I thought about going with snakes, but I feel like that's kinda dumb, considering a) it's Caliborn and Calliope's theme and b) snakes don't have arms, so how'd a Snake consort do literally anything? So I picked Iguanas, because nothing else really fit into the whole western theme. Denizen is Hephaestus, as is apparently customary for Time players. Scratch Construct time! The Scratch Construct of the Land of Trains and Laziness is one of those train whistle-things, only bigger. To scratch the session, you have to make a shitton of steam to sound the whistle. Well, that took a while! I feel like I'm STILL forgetting something. Oh, well! This was a fun little brainstorming.
@EndoClaw
@EndoClaw 3 года назад
I would imagine my land as LODAT or the Land Of Discord And Thorns because I am a heir of Blood and our only example of a heirs land is John and Equius because mituna doesn’t have a land that we know of and the lands of heirs based of of John and Equius are based of their aspects and something they hate with a passion(Not Kissmisis)John the heir of breath and the land of wind and shade and Equius the heir of void and the land is of caves and silence John hates Oil or the Shade in his planets name and I’m not sure about Equius and caves. Thorns because they are known to cause bleeding(the Blood part) and Discord( as in musical discord) because as someone who is a musician by hobby Upon herring discordant music will flip my shit and force the nearest person to eat my bow cooked shit.For the denizen I honestly don’t know because there is not a denizen for Hero’s of Blood that is named that I know of. So the LODAT with an unknown denizen... fun.
@Oldchannel827
@Oldchannel827 Год назад
I think mine would be LOCAT Land of clocks and towers cuz I’m a x of time (I haven’t figured out my class yet my extended zodiac is tourist the same one as the lussus troll from hs freindsim which was a knight of time but not sure) clocks is obvious cuz time player towers because I think my planets “problem” would be that the denizen lives of of electricity and the towers are electric and the plants can only be edible with a good shock and the towers store electricity and the denizen is hoarding electricity while the consorts go hungry sense the plants can’t be shocked to become edible sense I’m a time player my beat Mesa would be a set of drums because I’m very good with precaution instruments/banging my hands angainst a table to a toon my consorts would be 1/2 Comodo Dragon 1/2 salamander whom feed on the lands plants Edit: I took a fanmade quiz and it said I’m a mage of space so I took that and and combined it with may cannon(?) aspect so now mage of time
@johnathanegbert9277
@johnathanegbert9277 Год назад
I'm a Knight of Dreams and my planet would be the Land of Floating Islands and Corruption, a Terraria reference. My consorts would be Slimes and Demon Eyes and I would have two quests, to clear the corruption from the planet and to prevent the two rival consort species from going to war. My denizen is Fluthulu (yes, _that_ Fluthulu), in keeping with the land being one huge Terraria reference. She (do HorrorTerrors even have genders?) spreaded the corruption, and thus made the two consort species fight over dwindling land and resources.
@Oldchannel827
@Oldchannel827 Год назад
@@johnathanegbert9277 sburb refresh aspect?
@remjoleea5560
@remjoleea5560 6 лет назад
I'm a Sylph of Light and currently kinda split on the nouns of my/my trollsona's planet, but it's definitely (something) and shine. Whether it be locks, algae, or coral i haven't really decided yet. I have always felt drawn to Iris as a denizen, the greek goddess of rainbows. The consorts would probably be something fishy since it's largely a water world. Maybe seahorses or sunfish (ha). Sunfish are already scary and big enough tho??? DUDE i just had a revelation it could be lochs because water and my trollsona grew up in lakes their whole life holy heckkk I love homophones
@confusedbees
@confusedbees 5 лет назад
locas *land of coral and shine* *yeets heavily*
@Small_Leviathan
@Small_Leviathan 6 лет назад
After playing Persona 5 last year I really feel a different level of appreciation for all of the references to gnosticism in Homestuck. So much cool thematic stuff that I completely missed the first time around.
@shannong141
@shannong141 6 лет назад
some characters that me and my friend made are... prince of life-land of asylum and argon. seer of void-land of dark and maze. knight of rage-land of trees and terrors. heir of space-land of candy and frogs.
@shannong141
@shannong141 6 лет назад
Sodium Watercolour ok thanks
@moonfusion9964
@moonfusion9964 4 года назад
Muse of Time - Land of Crag and Decay
@loneargonian
@loneargonian 6 лет назад
As a Prince of Light my classpect is very screwy on what it actually is, I took the time to look at myself and what I do to get an idea of what I'm capable of. As I could tell from your vids(they're gr8 by the by) I would somehow be good at destroying how one interprets the world around them I think. I would really love to learn more about what I could do, I guess it would have something to do with lasers and darkness. I like to think I would be good at world building so I thought my land would something like Land of Light and Shadow(I may be referencing Twilight Zone) where the consorts would all hide underground to escape the light or something. I don't know what the denizen would be, maybe Citrus because I'm a Light player or Yaldabaoth(couldn't pronounce that if I tried) since like Dirk I'm a Prince(and may take over the world and destroy the knowledge of evil entirely, course it would get boring fast). I don't know what the "Impossible Task" would be, maybe removing knowledge or light. I must admit I am impressed with how Hussie came up with so much stuff from Gnosticism(I'm reading the Book of Enoch, it's boring and confusing but interesting simultaneously and maybe I'll read up on Gnosticism) I do world-building myself and could stand to place various philosophical/religious symbolism in it. I thank you for making these vids they're really informative.
@lorenzoledesma3927
@lorenzoledesma3927 5 лет назад
Land of X and Sunset(s) Denizen:Hyperion LandLore: dude just watch hollow knight
@anidiot9831
@anidiot9831 2 года назад
I know this comment is four years old and all but I would like to mention that I am a Prince of Void. Just ya know food for thought
@agustincretton3615
@agustincretton3615 2 года назад
As a fellow prince of light i think about my powers to destroy light or through light as an important part of the world i have to help, and as such i thought that maybe the best combination would be land of mirrors and mirage, mirage in of it self is light warping the truth, as such destroying light through light, and mirrors can decieve as in a mirror mace but also can show the fakeness of the mirage aspect by mirages not having reflections and as such being able to recognize the lies of the light. I also think that the imposible task we can be given is the one of destroying the source of the mirages leaving only the truth to stay on the planet with darkness, as such our task would be to destroy a sun, perhaps even the green sun or even the source of all light: skaia. Also our habilities allow us to be a destructive force to be reconned with and be awesome sharp shooters since we can do thing like throw a coin in the air and without even watching hitting the coin making the bullet ricochet into an enemy, or sweeping entire armies by drestroying their luck and killing all of them in a series of accidents. But the thing i always thing about when i think destroy through light is: light sabers baby
@raulendymion9917
@raulendymion9917 6 лет назад
Similarily to the quiz on what our True Sign was, do you think the team working on this Mythos will make quizzes for the Lands or Aspects, maybe even Denizens?
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
The True Sign test is a test for your Aspect! It tells you your dreaming moon and Aspect as part of the true sign. Hussie said he'd do a test for Class eventually, too, which I'm excited for. A Land/Denizen test never occured to me, but it sounds awesome, I would love something like that and think it's probably reasonably likely.
@raulendymion9917
@raulendymion9917 6 лет назад
What do you think would make a great Land of BLANK and BLANK test? Figuring all the factors that made the kids lands in the first place.
@griphusgriphus5530
@griphusgriphus5530 6 лет назад
Raul Endymion I don't realy think it's possible to do a land test because the land of every player is very unique and personal. The combination of words that can fill the blank spaces is infinite and, like in the case of Nepeta's planet, there can be two words in each blank space (even if it was for the sake of a joke).
@raulendymion9917
@raulendymion9917 6 лет назад
That does complicate things doesn't it?
@lixard_
@lixard_ 5 лет назад
Plus, in most sessions all of the players’ planets are connected in some way. I.e. the classical elements or noble gases, and that would be quite difficult to arrange amongst friends
@paulgettle4969
@paulgettle4969 6 лет назад
I just wanted to say that after my comment on your last video, the pacing of the editing on the visuals on this one felt a lot more my speed than the previous ones. I had time to read and absorb the text on the screen and see how it related to the narration. Of course, it's a trade-off, as this less dense format means less visual content per video, but for me at least, the increased impact of having every scene fully sink in makes up for it. And to your request for a comments jam, I might as well share some lands from a fanfic I've been working on sporadically in my spare time: Land of Cobblestones and Penumbra -- For a Maid of Blood character, look and feel I was going for was shadowy Victorian streets lit by gas lamps. Land of Rivers and Savannah -- This one is for a Witch of Breath. Breath Heroes seem to get an atmospheric/meteorological keyword in their lands, but for reasons, I went with rivers as a symbol for directed movement in pursuit of one's quest. Land of Cherries and Longing -- This one's for a Mage of Heart. Anime Cliche of trees raining cherry blossom petals, but on a planetary scale. Land of Flare and Calcite -- Belongs to a split personality player who flips between being an Heir of Mind and a Page of Rage. Think J.J. Abrams levels of Lens Flare in a crystaline landscape where everything gets double refracted. Land of Fusion and Enigmas -- This one went to a Rogue of Doom. Remember the Rocket Pack/Cinderblock/Violin/Flowerpot amalgam John made by randomly punching a card in the designex? This is a land totally littered with conglomerations of objects in the same style. Also similar to how John's land had fireflies, and Jade's land had hummingbirds, LOFAE has little fairies flitting around. Land of Mushrooms and Percussion -- Prince of Time got this one. Tree sized mushrooms everywhere (think the Telvanni side of the island of Vvardenfell from the Elder Scrolls franchise), and interspersed in between, drums and beatbox machines of sizes ranging from toy to building sized. But in a twist, in the crown of each of those mushroom trees is a bomb that blows up in a big mushroom cloud should the tree get knocked over, which is prone to happen with any loud drumming of any especially large drums nearby. Harshly hostile environment for the player to explore, but the local legends hold that LOMAP holds the key for navigating the Furthest Ring. (spoiler, it's a map.) Land of Perfection and Genericisim -- The players in this session were actually using game mods on their session to try to manipulate the final outcome, and of course, modding brought a couple of glitches into the game. When the Seer of Void entered, he found that instead of a planet, his land was simply a planet-sized Perfectly Generic Cube.
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
I was hoping to hear that, re: the editing. I didn't feel too comfortable with the pace of my earlier videos either, and I mean, of course it helps that this approach is somewhat less work for me. I'm still working it out, but I think I feel like I'm closer to my ideal pacing, so it's great to know it worked better for you. Also these are some rad lands, props to you! :B
@tentaclest.tentacles5090
@tentaclest.tentacles5090 6 лет назад
Sounds really, really interesting with that game modes inclined and the character with two personalyties... did you uploaded this fanfic on somewhere or..? I would like to read it to be honest.
@paulgettle4969
@paulgettle4969 6 лет назад
Alas, the fic is far from complete, but If I ever get it all written out, I'll try to pass it along to you. There's also one more twist I forgot to mention. Those last three players on my list, Rogue of Doom, Prince of Time and Seer of Void? The latter two are actually Paradox Clones of the first (there were some shenanigans with a crowbar, a music box time machine, and a ectobiology console). They use Sprite Prototyping and God Tiering to unify the three separate versions of themselves back into a single entity.
@gabidecastro
@gabidecastro 3 года назад
I always found it weird that the denizens names matched the browser's names, so I decided to analyse it a bit. Browsers are instruments of accessing the infinite spring of information that is the internet as well as of engaging in electronic communication, actions very in line with the aspect of Light. The Denizens relate to that aspect through their omniscience and the fact that their heads are so bright you can't even see them. This, in turn, might be another metaphor for the internet, it's so full of information that it is easy to get lost in it, to find too many results on a subject, forcing you to judge the accuracy and usefulness of the knowledge presented, leading you to become even more confused and not find the answers you are seeking. Too much light can leave you blind.
@nerdorama009
@nerdorama009 6 лет назад
I agree with everything in this video except your pronunciation of Calliope, but apparently we're both right and someone else already brought this up. Jake's importance to the narrative is something I hadn't considered before but it makes a distressing amount of sense now that you spell it out for me. Obviously, the connections to Lord English and the Cherubs were always there, but they sort of fall flat in the text of the comic until you start to think about them and his connection to Abraxas. Also worth noting: his alternate universe self, Jake Harley, is apparently the founder of Skaianet and therefore for the person who instigates the story in in-comic chronology as well: he's responsible for the creation of the Sburb Beta. That makes his random cameo helping John out on LOWAS also put me in mind of some of the crackier theories about Tom Bombadil from Lord of the Rings, i.e. that he is for some reason a physical manifestation of Eru, the Overgod who doesn't usually directly interfere with the material world but will apparently pop in just because Frodo needed a singing deus ex machina. I don't really get LotR but god knows Homestuck references it enough. Anyway, also of note since we're talking about Beta!Jake: Jake Harley also managed to get himself involved with inciting the action of Hiveswap, at least in terms of being the protagonist's father and key psychological motivator, and he probably had a lot to do with that snakey portal that, like all of Jake English's stuff, has direct symbological connections to the Cherubs and (now that you point it out) Abraxas. Of course, I think Jake Harley's got a looooooot of problems as a creator and parental figure, but maybe that parallel to Abraxas is still there. He's specifically "above" (Sophia's) Good and (Yaldabaoth's) Evil, after all.
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
I don't know much LOTR myself--definitely gonna have to fix that. I have to say I'm greatly pleased to hear someone think about Jake and be moved to use the words "distressing amount of sense", it feels like a bit of a personal milestone. Worth mentioning that Jake also incites the events of the Beta session in another way--he's the one who gives John the bunny that turns the session into what it is. At Calliope's behest, no less, implicating her in the entire Beta sessions' events as well. I'd say Grandpa is still somewhat linked to Abraxas. In particular, it seems like Grandpa remembers his Alpha friends somehow, including Calliope. Hard to say why that is, but I wouldn't be surprised if Abraxas is eventually implicated as a reason as we learn more about him. A lot of the focus on Pa seems to be on his obsession with LE/depression and loneliness turning him into something of an oblivious tyrant himself, in a sort of "you become what you hate" thing. But it'll remain hard to say until we know more.
@nerdorama009
@nerdorama009 6 лет назад
In my opinion, and I'm not saying it makes him a bad character, but Jake's always been kind of incredibly dense about other peoples' emotions, and wrapped up in his own world view to the exclusion of anyone else's. Jake English - similarly to Alphaverse Dirk and Roxy - gets the chance to correct, mitigate, and apologize for his various social indiscretions. That's one of his "rewards" for playing the game and being a destined noble and all. The Beta versions of all these characters, meanwhile, remain mired in their personality flaws until their deaths and never develop - the price of not being "heroes". (This also all applies to Jane, of course, but her journey's a little more abstract and tied up with the Condesce and her own agency or lack of it. Any attempt by me to explain it would just be me parroting one of your own articles back at you so you already know where I'd go with this). Basically any version of Jake can be "an oblivious tyrant", but Jake English has the good fortune of friends and an adventure and, perhaps most importantly, immediate hardship that can teach him to be a better human and not the distant, neglectful deity he is to Jade, Joey, and Jude as a Guardian. Or to put it another way, all the Alpha Kids are second chances for the Beta Guardians to overcome their personal problems. I've wandered off topic but that might make an interesting article or video in the future.
@sleeplessnarcolept6541
@sleeplessnarcolept6541 6 лет назад
I Never realized the denizens actually had ties to the characters. I Thought a god was chosen to be the denizen based off of how well one fits the theme. FOr example, CEtus is a water monster, and both ROse's and VRiska'splanets were primarily water. NIce to know HUssie didn't make the denizens an afterthought to fit the theme! I Had made two planets with denizens in the past, but they were to fit the theme. FOr example, I Used CHarybdis on the LAnd of TIdes and CHains, a planet of islands weighed down by chains tied to the sleeping denizen, slowly submerging the islands. MEfitis, a goddess of poisonous gases, for the LAnd of CHlorine and FAeries, a planet covered entirely in chlorine gas.
@lilddm8558
@lilddm8558 5 лет назад
This was so weird to read at first because the capitalization's all wonky. Probably a quirk or something
@silvernskye5132
@silvernskye5132 6 лет назад
youve really improved the editing quality of your videos it was definitely well worth the wait :D also thanks for setting schedule it makes waiting for the next video more exciting :D
@DistrictIvory
@DistrictIvory 6 лет назад
Denizens were always super cool to me, but I always found it annoying how they didn't become very relevant or explained until near the very end. I even had a lot of fun making an au where the denizen's and kids swapped positions, too bad we never got to see the denizens for the other aspects!
@njemceres5064
@njemceres5064 6 лет назад
You are an embodiment of what I like about homestuck : getting really far into the analysis. Real work done here. Nothing really tangible to say, I just wanted to throw you flowers.
@FlorianEaster7975
@FlorianEaster7975 6 лет назад
being a sign of the dissenter (Fuchsia, derse, time) and the lord of time. What if the world had flowing rivers? each symbolizing a timeline... being able to split into multiple timelines and possible merge timeline together. so to go with that idea what if i do "choices" since a single choice can lead down multiple paths or in this case rivers. That'll make the land of River and Choices...not sure about the sound of that title... going on to the personal quest perhaps the land's water source is being blocked by something like a rock and i need to go remove it or maybe the spring that which all water comes from is not functioning as well due to the denizen preventing the water from flowing. Though i'm unsure about which denizen, i get the feeling it'll be Yaldabaoth anyways loved the video~
@bardofvoid174
@bardofvoid174 4 года назад
What I find really interesting is that the definition of Denizen is "inhabitant or occupant of a particular place", which makes sense, since the Denizens do inhabit/occupy their respective planet, but the literal definition based off its original word parts mean "from within", then a good old -aeous, turning the word into an adjective (in Latin, anyways, which is what the definitions of its word parts are based on), which could reference the Denezin's tendency (or canonicity) of residing in the planet's core, as well as potentially metaphorically, to the player's "within", and in the same vein, a reference to the players' personal quests the denizens are integral to.
@mynameismud8596
@mynameismud8596 6 лет назад
Must admit I've never known about the abraxos-Jake English connection. Guess you learn something new every day. Thanks!
@Comet_ARK
@Comet_ARK 6 лет назад
Another great piece! Love your work so much!!!!!
@anniebale4343
@anniebale4343 5 лет назад
I'm late to the party, but, eh, now or never, I suppose. So I'm a Mage of Light, or at-least that's what I've inferred after several bouts of research and lots of re-taking quizzes. My land, from what I've gathered, is either supposed to reflect or hinder/challenge me in some way, and based on my own personality, which is... eclectically and sporadically intelligent (or that's essentially what I've been told, and intelligence seems to be tailored to/for Light players), we'll say, and the nature of the game to sometimes take your aspect to a literal level, I would say the first part would have to be Lightning. Loud, thunderous, unpredictable, and, quite literally, a bolt of light. Taking into account the experiences that have shaped who I am, which are barren and quite fruitless and lifeless (tragic backstory must be level 100 to unlock) and also is actually technically where I live now, I would say a desert would be quite fitting for the second part. Void of anything fruitful, yet also where I am most comfortable. So, the Land of Lightning and Desert it is. I'd imagine the landscape would be a bare and fairly lonely area, with sinkholes everywhere and a noticable lack of water and plant life. Maybe there's a crater where an oasis (supposedly) used to be. The goal could probably be to make those lightning clouds actually produce liquid, and bring life back into the planet. That, or the water could be buried deep underground, and the lightning could maybe be controlled in a way that could strike the spot it resides in. Maybe I could get lucky and have a Breath player in my circle, who could help by using their windy magic to transport it back to the surface. Either way works, in my opinion. Now, then, as for reptiles and amphibious consorts... a snake would be the obvious choice, but that complicates things with the cherubs, so maybe either a thorny devil or a horned lizard. A sharp and uninviting creature that can survive without lots of water sounds perfect for a planet comprised of desert sand and uncontrollable lightning storms, in my opinion. Well... that was that, I suppose. ^v^ How fun.
@samheppner1291
@samheppner1291 6 лет назад
If I can remember correctly, I believe that within the Alpha Troll's session, it was stated by Karkat that the angels Eridan was killing were his consorts. With this example, it is shown that apparently the amphibious consorts were only within
@CuppOfTaee
@CuppOfTaee 6 лет назад
As the Rogue of Light, my land is The Land of Clovers and Dreams
@RhizomeRoots
@RhizomeRoots 3 года назад
I've got a p cool idea for a land so far: Land of Ginkgos and Rhythm sounds cool for a Bard of Time, especially with a paintball gun as a strife specibus. The land would be mostly grey stone/sand, with green and red swirling clouds, rivers and oceans of a dark red material and giant ginkgos with bright green leaves. Scratch construct being a giant phonograph with a wax cylinder in it, and the denizen ofc being the badass Hephaestus. I wish we got to see more of the canon lands in the A2 session, they were all super nice looking, honestly.
@smolmuffin
@smolmuffin 6 лет назад
Hmmm i was thinking of the land of hills and dandelions.Ive considered myself a witch of hope for a while but now i could be a rogue and possibly a breath player.Good thing the dandelion part of the land fits both aspects.
@dr.castor1392
@dr.castor1392 6 лет назад
Fun fact: noble gas’s are also called Inert gases! Quite fitting for an inert session...
@lorantkutnyanszky3210
@lorantkutnyanszky3210 6 лет назад
On the Land of Castles and Darkness it is the Seer/Mage of Time's job to *know* what happened in the past and fix it, bringing light and (symbolic) life to the land
@catgirltreats
@catgirltreats 6 лет назад
awesome as usual! As a rogue of breath my land would be the Land of Sky and Drifters. There is no planet surface, but hundreds and hundreds of floating islands varying in size housing gliding lizard consorts. My quest would revolve around my denizen (not sure which, probably something linked with being outnumbered?) forcing islands to crash into each other and being far too powerful to challenge in small numbers, leaving me to unite an army of the drifting and unorganised consorts and some of my fellow players. (Links to my role as the rogue of breath, the re-arranger of motivation via persuading consorts to join me) It would conclude with me confronting my denizen, who immediately slaughters half of my army in a single attack and gives me the choice to leave, or continue fighting knowing that all of the consorts I have gathered will die. Regardless of my choice my consorts will want to fight, but they only stand a chance of winning if I am there (cause my crazy wind powers, regardless of reaching god tier. I'm fairly comfortable with and understand my aspect so I'd have some degree of control over actual wind by this point anyway) This will complete lessons in leadership and dedication to a cause (which I struggle with now) that will prove important in leading the players in my session to victory, and coming to terms with possible loss of life that will occur during the important cause of creating a universe. oof! sorry that was a bit long, I think about sburb a lot. A personalised quest which changes you as a person is very appealing to me
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
This is pretty dang cool! I've never personally crafted a quest this complex, since I've rarely dabbled into this side of things too much. It's awesome to see setups like this one, though--maybe eventually I'll have the time to follow in your footsteps so to speak :B
@catgirltreats
@catgirltreats 6 лет назад
optimistic Duelist thanks! I'd love to hear it :D
@lobster9059
@lobster9059 6 лет назад
Jon Adams as a seer of mind what do you think my land would be?
@catgirltreats
@catgirltreats 6 лет назад
uranianUmbra it's hard to say for sure, the planet and quest are closely intwined and personal, I'd say that one of the two words would relate to your aspect. Think about how you would channel your title. Planning, prediction, flexibility and choice are commonly associated with mind. Also try to relate your second word to your quest, for example John has the land of wind and shade, the shade referrs to the layer of cloud that john must remove. Try to think of a quest that would challenge you and your relationship to your aspect, and draw the second word from that. You could also look at known mind and seer worlds in canon, the Land of Thought and Flow for Terezi and the Land of Light and Rain for Rose. Or you can pick 2 words that relate to your title and form a quest around it, changing the name once your world is more developed. My planet was originally the land of sky and temples, but it changed once I put a quest together and considered the meaning of my aspect differently.
@lobster9059
@lobster9059 6 лет назад
Jon Adams ok so ive thought of a land name The Land Of Glass And Reflections. I think this fits with the whole seer of mind thing because glass is transparent and according to terezi she can see through the metaphorical walls people put up to block how theyre really feeling. The blocks being glass and she can see right through it. Reflections because that glass could also be a mirror to see what people really think about you. My quest would revolve around not struggling about how people feel about you.
@arakhneia
@arakhneia 6 лет назад
i'm a Bard of Space in the Land of Slime and Frogs
@jhozan
@jhozan 5 лет назад
Mage of Mind in the Land of Ash and Coral
@DrHonk-gs9eb
@DrHonk-gs9eb 4 года назад
I'm a Page of Life in the Land of Carnivals and Cocoons.
@NinjaGurlPower
@NinjaGurlPower 6 лет назад
Really informative!! Great vid!! Can't wait to see more like this :-)
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
Give it like, an hour or so? First video on Hiveswap goes up today! :) Thanks!
@roukanbrightside3686
@roukanbrightside3686 6 лет назад
For me as a mage of space I'd like to think I'd have the Land of Edges and Frogs. With a bunch of skinks as consorts. Echidna as the denizen of corse. What are your thoughts on the totem animals(i.e. Johns fireflies or jades hummingbirds) that inhabit the lands?
@Vila9303
@Vila9303 6 лет назад
More videos please, this is so satisfying
@HearthFlow
@HearthFlow 6 лет назад
Im a Sylph of Void, a Derse dreamer, and is in the Land of Darkness and Silence. My quest revolves around accepting the misfortune, the emptiness, the feeling of lacking something. I dont know which deity to have as a denizen, i was thinking one about silence, emptiness, void, or illusions, i found some but none really hit home
@pickledshoe
@pickledshoe 6 лет назад
love your new art :D
@gabrielquist6120
@gabrielquist6120 3 года назад
(I don't know if I already commented.) Class and Aspect: Knight of life. Land: Land of Sand and Ruins. The planet at first is a dead desert planet with a lot of shore sade species. The planet is covered in empty ruined cities with large statues of primary the former natives (the consorts). The land is also ravaged by giant sandstorms There are fountains scattered across the ruins that when fixed and reactivated brings life to the surrounding land. The plant life most closely resembles the Minecraft Aether mod. (Including some clouds.) Reactivating the fountains is part of my quest as well as caring fore a yung femail consort that follows me for most of the story. The consorts are not all dead with their being two colonies near both the poles. The consorts are green alligators (based on the Chinese alligator.) Thay do have slightly different proportions with the female consorts having a slightly larger upper chest (Feminine figure) and the males are slightly stronger and larger. (Masculine figure.) I know that the consorts are only side characters but I wanted to do something with them.
@gametrap3637
@gametrap3637 6 лет назад
You are legitimately making the best analysis videos on RU-vid right now. I cannot wait for when you get into full character analysis and I am especially excited for your thoughts on the more controversial parts of Homestuck.
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
Thanks! A lot of my thoughts on later story elements are available in writing form on Medium and Tumblr, just fyi--though of course, as with everything about Homestuck, they'll likely evolve before making it to video format. Pretty excited to get into character analysis in video form quite soon with Xefros, though! :)
@gametrap3637
@gametrap3637 6 лет назад
Oh yeah, I looked at some of your blog and most of what I read was excellent, but since this video series is your more accessible approach to writing, I do look forward for everything to be broken down further. Also while I think that Hiveswap is far inferior to HS, you have been very positive about it and I am hyped to see what you have to say about Xefros. Especially since it's pretty hard for me to see any depth in the game and I have no doubt you have something great up your sleeves that'll make me want to give it a second look.
@TheBlackSerpentBeta
@TheBlackSerpentBeta 6 лет назад
Land of Glass & Forges (LoGaF)
@atomykebonpyre
@atomykebonpyre 6 лет назад
An interesting fact about the land naming system, the nouns used in the lands name actually follows different rules when in a different type of session like a void session or dead session. In a void session, for example, instead of the normal structure of one noun relating to player's interests or aspect - second noun relating to player's interests or aspect, it's instead first noun some synonym of grave - second noun noble gas. the grave synonym is to reflect that the session itself, along with any consorts that were there at any point in time, is either doomed or already dead. the noble gas is a reflection of how the session is very uneventful, as noble gasses cant react with any other chemical, thus, is very uneventful in nature.
@thefuschiaruler1927
@thefuschiaruler1927 6 лет назад
You deserve a lot more subs. I think my land would be the land of masks and Mercury. The poisonous liquid metal Mercury would represent the way I am with people, I try to flow around them and damage them somehow in the process. The masks represent how I hide from people and prefer to drive those that are not likeminded away from me.
@thefuschiaruler1927
@thefuschiaruler1927 6 лет назад
As a prince of doom my quest would involve getting rid of the Mercury, that flows up from the masks, and stop it from compleatly flooding the planet entirely. My quest would be NECESSARY. It involves destroying the inevitable fate of my planet and consorts. My denizen would offer me the choice. I would have to go to the core of the planet and freeze all of the Mercury and stop it from flooding!
@Caldoric
@Caldoric 6 лет назад
Knight of Space, before the "canon" test came around: LOCAF (caverns and frogs... Apparently I'm also not the only one out there with caverns.)
@datamancy138
@datamancy138 6 лет назад
as a mage of time, i like the idea of a land of fractals and metronomes-- one thing you left out is that time players actually often do have a component of clocks in their land title, dave has clockwork, aradia has quartz (like in a quartz clock)
@doublee7110
@doublee7110 6 лет назад
I would like the Land Of Mindlessness And Weave. (LOMAW) It would be paradoxical in shape, and I’d have to master my aspect to ‘unweave’ the planet and reach my denizen, returning it to a standard sphere shape in the process. My consorts would be serpents due to their similarity in shape to threads, and their tendency to instill ‘mindless fear’ on those who fear them. It would force me to swallow a fear of mine in order to have assistance.
@trioverseofficial9272
@trioverseofficial9272 6 лет назад
Being a beta player and the knight of space, I would most likely reside in the land of xenon and frogs. Xenon, being a plasma, representative of my love for physical science and chemistry, while frogs being representative of my aspect of space!
@calorinedarkness5232
@calorinedarkness5232 6 лет назад
I am a Page of Mind, and My land would be know as LoMaI, or Land of Moonlight and Insight. It relatively empty making it a bit safer than other lands, and what few consorts there would be, would all be in hiding or hibernating. The land would be primarily made of crystalline oceans, And mostly be covered by plains of wavy dark green grass with snarling black treed forests with dark green leaves matching the grass. It would seemingly be cloaked in a sorta Moonlight across the entire surface. Seemingly ancient ruins (kinda like the deadric ruins in Morrowind) would also dot the landscape, which would contain lore about my lands history, and information on the game. While mostly empty, a threat would still be looming over my land and I would have to stop it one way or another.
@KorlaWolf
@KorlaWolf 3 года назад
As a Rogue of Rage, I always thought that I’d have a Land of Storms and Tricks/Traps. Can’t decide between tricks or traps there. Consorts could be painted turtles, mainly because I like them. But then with no information of a denizen a rage player would have, I’d always stop there. Would one just pick a different one, or make up their own? Not sure.
@a-bird-lover
@a-bird-lover 6 лет назад
I am perfectly ok with being totally cringy in my science class. Like another person might ask "Hey, do you know xenon?" "Oh, DO I? OuO" "Um" _"I ship it with krypton"_ "Ok I'll find someone else"
@theundyingspiderking3876
@theundyingspiderking3876 6 лет назад
Adore these videos. Just curious, what books on Gnosticism would you suggest to someone beginning to look into this kind of stuff?
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
The intro sequence has the big two I'd suggest--The Neverending Story and Herman Hesse's Demian. I'd also suggest checking out Jung's 7 Sermons, which I've linked to previously and which is available for free online. I really want to read Jung's Red Book, which the 7 Sermons To The Dead are basically the introduction to, but...man that thing is expensive. I have a hunch it'd be quite helpful, though.
@theundyingspiderking3876
@theundyingspiderking3876 6 лет назад
Damn the hardback looks like a certified cat killer and wallet killer. Looks like there's a kindle edition for £18 tho
@reverseteebz1139
@reverseteebz1139 6 лет назад
I think I'd have something like, the Land Of Rocks And Quartz
@abbylyngar8422
@abbylyngar8422 6 лет назад
Can i ask how Karkat's denizen effects him, and why did Echidna insist he live? Oh and my land is the Land of Mirrors and Silent Tunnels, my consorts are blind snakes and my denizen is Medusa. May i ask what your land and consorts are?
@jadethenidoran
@jadethenidoran 6 лет назад
My consorts: Purple snakes or axlotls. God tier: Witch, Sylph, or Maid of Heart or Space. (Interestingly, all three of those classes have been given to space players, and none of them to Heart players.) glomped that mfin notification
@markenangel1813
@markenangel1813 4 года назад
* axolotls
@CAMCATTO
@CAMCATTO 5 лет назад
i like to think that whatever my land would be called, it would include some kind of challenge to make me be more assertive. like... i always end up with active roles, being a derse dreamer and a witch class, but i dont feel like i really am that "active". land of.... mazes and fans maybe?? idk :3 this stuff is so fun to think about!!
@ethant3748
@ethant3748 6 лет назад
Maid of Mind Land of Books and Sparks Owl Consort Janus
@lincolnp.2711
@lincolnp.2711 6 лет назад
Cool video! I actually could pass as either a Maid of Rage or a Maid of Blood. For Rage, my land would be Land of Hurricanes and Sundews and for Blood my land would be Land of Veins and Crystals.
@ascendedalchemist2551
@ascendedalchemist2551 Год назад
I am a rogue of mind and since abraxas is the denizen given to Players who'se influence is felt the most in the world of ideas I think Abraxas would be my denizen. That is because I am the sort of friend leader that karkat always wanted to be and kind of became at the end. I use my classpects to redistribute choices and thought patterns across my friend group, managing our course of action and cause in the process. This is further reinforced by the fact, that I have found myself role-playing a witch of blood
@rinmedeis2541
@rinmedeis2541 6 лет назад
Classpect: Mage of Mind Planet: Land of Libraries and Labyrinths Consort: Green Axolotl Denizen: Metis
@peachl0tus415
@peachl0tus415 6 лет назад
Hey OD. Do you think you can help me out with something? My trollsona is the heir of death so one of their nouns is frog and they're fond of death and witch craft. Do you have another noun for my trollsona. Also if what you said is correct about space players then I also gotta thing of a monster for my trollsona to create.
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
I don't know if the detail about creating a monster is specific to Space players. It does seem to be part of the narrative of characters who successfully make pacts with Echidna--Kanaya's a Space player, but she refused Echidna's pact, and isn't particularly linked with making monsters like Calliope and Jade. Aranea and Porrim apparently collaborated on making the Scratch with Echidna, and their deal resulted in the birth of a world of monsters: Alternia, which is made in the image of Lord English. Many of the Beta Trolls even end up qualifying as monsters themselves as a result. Also, I dunno about providing nouns, I'm not usually great at that stuff! I'd suggest going with something that's personal and interesting to you, though. Hope that helps.
@4ncientGu150
@4ncientGu150 6 лет назад
Dang Had no clue Jake was so important
@romorris7906
@romorris7906 3 года назад
Came back and after some thought as a rogue of light, land of sunshine and waves.
@sebastianhagert7130
@sebastianhagert7130 6 лет назад
wait, jake makes angles, eridans consorts were angles, they're both hope players and i believe that eridan killing angles probably symbolises the fact that he is the prince of hope or "one who destroys/destroys through hope" since it is implied that are supposed to represent the aspect hope with jakes giant hope orb creating them, which is why i believe that all hope players consorts are supposed to be angles
@KellyBufkin
@KellyBufkin 2 года назад
I'm an Heir of Doom. I was thinking my land had to do with prophecies and darkness. I think of prophets like teachers and teachers use books and I love books. Darkness can be shade, which is nice. I decided I have the Land of Books and Shade. Lots of knowledge and puzzle quests. Many comfortable nooks and places to read. Some areas of intense darkness. Conspiracies abound.
@zelzainkstudios9633
@zelzainkstudios9633 6 лет назад
Mm, ok I got this. Sense I am a Knight of light think my land would be along the lines of; land of sun and dreams. The dream part I think would be abit of a emotional jab at me cuz, I have big dreams for myself but, I feel like I never make progress towards them. And the sun part would be like idk abit of symbolism. Like that saying "light at the end of the tunnel". I guess my land would look like, really ethereal. The ground would be replaced with clouds and there would be stars everywhere. And well I think the quest for light player quest for me could be like learning to take a leap of faith. Idk. So I guess the sky of my land would be dark cuz the denizen took something that make the sky bright. Something like a huge sun. Not a green one. Maybe pink. And getting the sun back would symbolize me, believing in my self. And the consorts, idk they might be like geckos. As for my denizen. I think it would represent one of the 7 sins, probably envy and sloth. And me beating it. Lethally or non-lethally would symbolize me overcoming those two faults in myself wich would lead me to believing in myself. I wonder if any of this makes sense.
@bodilfabian-lamijon7179
@bodilfabian-lamijon7179 4 года назад
When you're trying to make a Homestuck Hannibal crossover
@jt0n
@jt0n 3 года назад
how does nepeta's land of little cubes and tea reflect her heart aspect?
@oi6119
@oi6119 6 лет назад
im actually trying to find a land for myself right now,(i am a knight of space) and a knight's land is normally based around their fears,something i fear a LOT is the feeling that im being whatched,by something i do not know the location or identity of,so i tought something like the "land of darkness and frogs".A land where it is really hard to see,however really easy to hear anything close to you.I dont really know much about how the lands work,so what do you guys think? :v
@timetuner
@timetuner 6 лет назад
So I've had a crack theory rattling around in my head ever since Collide and I'm wondering if anyone can definitively kill it. Jake is the Lord English of the Midnight Crew intermission. Jake is shown to have asserted dominance over The Felt in Collide and I'm not aware of any information on what happens to them in between that and the Midnight Crew intermission. Slick has no picture of the LE he's looking for.
@17raysplays29
@17raysplays29 6 лет назад
Will there be a video on Fraymotifs?
@ctct9418
@ctct9418 5 лет назад
I currently am making a homestuck comic called homestuck other story about another group of players playing spurb. My land is the land of shade and mist. Because I am the prince of void. In the comic I end up killing my denizin. In the comic I kill it because he was feeding of the planets core. Wich caused suffering to the consorts. By order of the consorts I reached god tier and killed the denizen. Do you think it sounds good so far? I would love to see your opinion! I really admire you, and the fact you are trying to make homestuck popular again! Homestuck is very precious to me and I feel amazing seeing your videos, bringing back homestuck to its former glory!! Please keep doing what your doing! I 100% support you and hope you continue to become a very well known RU-vidr as the revivement of homestuck!! Thank you for making these amazing videos!!! -Sincerely, CTCT
@xenopsychologist4943
@xenopsychologist4943 4 года назад
the mage of time rests in the land of sand and hours.
@jacobgoodwin4792
@jacobgoodwin4792 6 лет назад
now that i think about it in a scene kanaya also made a monster which was doc scratch because kanaya repaired lil cal and made the suit that he wears in the first place idk
@maylie1234
@maylie1234 6 лет назад
Tbh i forgot Yaldaboath was a denizen in homestuck after getting to frustrated with how the name was pronounced to remember. Honestly I really only remember Yaldaboaths name because of Persona 5 lmao. As for my land I dunno, Im a self proclaimed Rogue of Doom though thinking about our only really developed doom player sollux, his planet was covered in fire so perhaps some form of ruin would be fitting for any doom player? I dunno
@screamingob1in_546
@screamingob1in_546 5 лет назад
My hero title is the Bard of Void, I personally think my land is the Land of NIght and Song. -but my other friends disagree haha-
@austinmotter3810
@austinmotter3810 6 лет назад
My god tier is Knight of Hope, and my consorts would be blue alligators, but I'm unsure of my land
@honkytank8855
@honkytank8855 6 лет назад
Do you have something that you're afraid of? You can add that fear into your planet somehow. Dave hated the sound of metal and his planet was the "Land of Heat and Clockwork". The "clockwork" definitely made a bunch of metal sounds in general. Karkat's planet was the "Land of Pulse and Haze", which had lakes of bright red liquid. Karkat was known to be pretty insecure of his blood color, which was a bright red, like the lakes of his planet.
@venteX..
@venteX.. 11 месяцев назад
After thinking about it for a while, i think my land would be named "The land of ruby and electronics" i am a time player, probably the page of time(but i am unsure about it just yet and perhaps my class might shift around often) the scratch construct within my planet would be called "scratch matrix" and would look like a large screen. As the the consrts and the denizen i got no idea since i know very little about denizens.
@jacobgoodwin4792
@jacobgoodwin4792 6 лет назад
when i comes to my land i don't know (page of heart) but i have thought of a troll character who is a knight of doom and i think his land would be the land of lightning and some thing else not literally something else i just don't what else the land should be i chose lightning because of its danger but i want to also describe other fetchers about the land like valleys forests rivers hills that sort of thing what should that other thing be is the question and i guess what i'm asking is dose any one have any idea what it should be ?
@theletters9623
@theletters9623 5 лет назад
I'm a maid of heart and the current title for my land is "Land Of Fluff and Empathy" mainly bc of the Fae pun for the fairy archetype ngl
@blissfuldirtbag2279
@blissfuldirtbag2279 6 лет назад
I messed up, I named my land The land of Midnight and Goliaths for an oceanic planet with small floating islands on the surface, goliaths for the giant frogs that dwell there. I like the sound of the planet Lomag but with your input, I feel compelled to make it Lomaf idk what to do sos Mage of hope from a Rogue of space :P (Also idk what to do for concorts I was gonna do insects but now I see that is unfitting seeing as they don't match the patterns we have been shown)
@worldsvamp5499
@worldsvamp5499 6 лет назад
im the mage of void and my land is Land of islands and haze
@MamaTrixxieAsmr
@MamaTrixxieAsmr 6 лет назад
A time player would not really be nescassary, but it would be super hard, as the time player 's job is to help the frog breeding, and their planet houses the scratch construct, Having no time player means that 1. You can't initiate the scratch, which means there will be no new incipishere. And no chances of creating a new universe there 2. The space player's job would be WAY harder, or another player would need to take that place.
@pleromaprism7581
@pleromaprism7581 6 лет назад
Yesssssssssss
@lobster9059
@lobster9059 6 лет назад
nice
@82cyan
@82cyan 6 лет назад
my denizen is Gaia and my land is land of obsidian and frogs (LOOAF)
@jamescameron5090
@jamescameron5090 6 лет назад
Yes.
@madzoroark5396
@madzoroark5396 6 лет назад
I have a question. How does a lord of life appear and what abilities would they have?
@drakath5727
@drakath5727 5 лет назад
Technically we all have the Land of Stumps and Dismay as we are the Reader depicted in the friendsim
@Britonmarie
@Britonmarie 6 лет назад
What would be good for a Homestuck player who's a Pipio and of the Knight class of God tier?
@magicalpasta5462
@magicalpasta5462 6 лет назад
as a maid of heart, my land will be land of pastries and flowers, my denizen will be Epione, and my consorts will be bat-winged salamanders with Cthulhu tentacles for their mouth
@SqrlGrlDawn
@SqrlGrlDawn 4 года назад
i had the idea of my land being mines and frogs, specifically bc it would suck to see those little guys step on one :c
@hawkfeather5408
@hawkfeather5408 6 лет назад
I'm a Prince of Light :/ Since Vriska and Rose had to find their light in some way, I think I'd have to find knowledge. Which is what you find when you "shed light" on something. Mostly because I'm tortured by school and would definitely be outside of my comfort zone. Maybe "The Land of Brains and Storms"????
@mooberto
@mooberto 6 лет назад
So was the human sessions the only ones with a theme in the lands? Cause I don’t see a connection for the troll session planets...
@optimisticDuelist
@optimisticDuelist 6 лет назад
Yeah, the trolls don't seem to have one as far as I can tell. Which is also cool, since it means the theme is optional!
@mooberto
@mooberto 6 лет назад
optimistic Duelist Also I thought the reason for the alpha kids session being themed after a gas and grave type structure was because of them having a void session.
@karkatvantas9557
@karkatvantas9557 6 лет назад
There's that, but also the alpha kids are referred to as "nobles" (rather than heroes) and their lands are themed around a _noble gas._
@8skull227
@8skull227 6 лет назад
Consorts: snake (favorite animal with small affinity ) denizens maybe hemra noun metal (large affinity ) verb create (other then dicking around all I do is repair and create and I’m a pessimist so my god trier would be super predictable) quite obviously derse and most likely a god tier of mind because I love psychology
@honkhonk9266
@honkhonk9266 5 лет назад
I need some help with my land name all got is the frog part(obviously) But i don't know what the first noun thing would be (ima page o space o), i was thinking maybe someth like dragons and frogs, cuz i REALLY love dragons. I also like other things but Dragons would be the most interesting but i want some opinions. :l
@youmebothorneither
@youmebothorneither 5 лет назад
So for my fantrolls, the space player has a really strong moiraillgence with a troll named aaajjj spaget (I let my brother name him) so I named her land Land of Amphibians and Justice (LOAAJ). Would that count for the frog rule?
@Atomicrow
@Atomicrow 6 лет назад
Just gonna dump the stuff I came up with for my land here. Classpect: Mage Of Time Land: Land of Waste and Rust Consorts: Axolotls Land Description: LoWaR is a fairly empty world with no seas, forests or major settlements. The ground and skies are varying shades of grey and huge spires of garbage and outdated technology dot the hills (think third-world garbage dumps full of old monitors and car parts with a hint of Wall-E). In the core of the planet lies Hephaestus's Forge complete with magma and liquid iron all over the place. The Scratch Construct is a giant cassette deck with a cassette slotted inside. To initiate the Scratch you would need to first open the deck with great force and then scratch the film of the cassette within the deck with a powerful weapon. The planet itself is made of metals like iron, tin, copper (making up the deeper parts of the crust), steel and zinc (making up the very surface layers of the planet) but the consorts, living in abject poverty, treasure it because it's the only really useful material for building in LoWaR (unless you want a house made of CRT monitors). This leads nicely into the corruption affecting the world, the Rust. The Rust, brought on by Hephaestus, is spreading across LoWaR slowly making the consorts only resources useless. The only way to stop the Rust is to electrogalvanize the zinc and steel within the planet with a great electrical force. This could either be done using legendary equipment or by accepting Hephaestus's Choice. The consorts themselves are fairly simple in nature, trading with one another and building small communities. Most jobs came in mining for metals and metalwork. They specialise in blacksmithing (I mean, what else are you going to do on a planet made exclusively of metal?) and some attempt to dabble in the art of alchemy in an attempt to forward their society. They never excelled in alchemy though due to a lack of actual equipment and instead relying on transmutation. Very little progress in actual SBURB alchemy has been made apart from the odd Iron && Iron ==> Reinforced Iron.
@kaimcconnell2137
@kaimcconnell2137 6 лет назад
Prince of time here! Just so you know, WE ALL DIE.
@ZonagonsBlackKnight
@ZonagonsBlackKnight 5 лет назад
Which denizen would a Knight of Doom have to deal with? What about their consorts? I'm chomping at the bits to know.
@Incubookie
@Incubookie 6 лет назад
Could I get some help with mine? Though Im not entirely sure what my classpect is.. I know its either Page of Space or Thief of Heart.. Though the new official test that popped up on the hiveswap page claims Im a breath player
@kitkatmuffin
@kitkatmuffin 6 лет назад
I keep having this weird feeling that Homestuck relates to me in some way. Probably because of all this god talk and stuff. Cause my name is Sophia, and I’m a Rogue of Space. I guess when you talk about Abraxas and Yaldaboth it just reminds me of myself. •
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