Hyundai Veloster N DCT vs Honda Civic Type R, battle of hatchbacks Drag and roll race. This time we raced the Honda Civic Type R vs Veloster N DCT. Can the Veloster N DCT be faster?
For everyone that skips the video, the car was in N mode, the car was in boost mode where it gives you 20 seconds of boost. When I write down Sport mode, it means top sport, R mode and N mode for both cars. You can actually hear me say that it was in boost mode. So stop making excuses . Just a clarification:)
No one's making excuses, u should clarify which driving style u are in is more like it. sport is sport.. N Mode is track. I already knew off the bat the TYPE R is a surgical weapon as an N owner.. feels like u didn't use the full potential of the N.. NGS would cause the engine to work in overdrive & loud, I didn't hear a thing.
@@drewthrower4509 I know I just couldn’t afford $300 a tire so I bought some all season pirellis with 200 threadwear thinking they’d competed with ps4s
Great video thanks! First let me say both are great cars, although I do have a bias as I have a Type R. I thought I saw numbers for the Veloster N and the 0-60mph times were like 4.9 so I was surprised at the outcome! I guessed the DCT tranny would be much faster than the Type R but your video showed otherwise. The Type R typically is a mid 5 second car from what I have seen but a lot comes down to the driver with a manual tranny, props to the Type R driver in this video. The 10 second power boost is a cool feature. Thanks for exploring the different modes, great video!
@@cosmic_gate476 no because I’m not stupid enough to race from light to light which proves nothing other than who has a better launch. Since an automatic AWD takes no skill. Roll race shows who has more power. Don’t tell me your excuse is gonna be “let’s race at a dig” since you can’t keep up?
I miss having a fun hatch with a manual these days. For those of you that can still drive these I am jealous but there is no way I am fitting 2 adults and 3 kids in these, thanks again Sam 🤘👍🤘👍🤘
Good race! Like you said Sam, typeR driver knows how to drive manual. Regardless typeR was going to be faster but N was right behind. For the money and design of the car, I would probably edge towards the N. TypeR is a awesome car though. Thank you for another exciting race.
Great match up. Type R driver knows how to launch and very fast shifts 👍🏻. Would be cool to see the match up again with the same driver and stock wheels and tires on the Type R.
Wobbly loose mounts, and weak rubber bushings, that are made for comfort will keep any car from doing a good launch and wheel hop its way into second gear.
Honestly, kudos to the type R driver! They are so hard to launch properly and he did it consistently. Admittedly, I’m a HUGE Honda fan so this made me happy as I’ve definitely seen Veloster N’s with the DCT beat type R’s
As a Type R owner I agree. The only thing I disagree with the video is the Type R isn’t stock. Those are not stock wheels and tyres and they will give the Type R an advantage on launch over factory.
@@davemorris6747 You don't know what tires he's running though they could perform less in a launch because I know mine and many other owners aftermarket tires do, the stock tires are very grippy. A lot of type r owners opt for more forgiving all season tires that are softer to give a comfier ride. In my case I run 18 inch pilot sport 4 all seasons. They don't grip as well but the ride comfort is far better and they last longer.
@@supafance92 very true, I run full 20 inch Pilot Sport 4 S’s. On regular streets, the difference wasn’t major but on a prepped surface, the difference was insane. Getting a true 13.6 on a drag strip was impossible for me with the stock tires
Was the driver in the DCT Veloster n even using launch control? And if he was, did he check to see what RPMs the car was set to launch at? Type R shouldn't be gapping a DCT VN when proper tech is used and driven properly
Impressive for the Type-R knowing that Manual and FWD usually don’t mix off of the line. The Veloster didn’t do too bad considering the power difference. A Civic with a DCT or the 10-Speed from the Type-S would definitely Gap it. Honda Power.
If you know the type r driver I'd reccomend doing a video where we can see in first person from his perspective on how he is shifting. I think it would be a super good learning video for us type r owners
I saw the Veloster N DCT run 13.2 stock, so it makes me think the Type R isn't so stock. Not too many folks spend the money on those wheels and nothing else.
Actually alot of people just get wheels first . Because the stock tires on the 20s are not practical for most roads. They bend too easy on potholes. I have a CTR and all I did so far are wheels and tires . Why is it hard to believe the civic is faster stock? It's 70lbs lighter. Has 30 more hp and 35 more tq .
I have watched a few videos and I have noticed that when a car has a launch mode, it is sometimes not used. I'm curious as to why that is? Why wasn't there a run with a launch mode enabled? Thank you for doing these videos, I really enjoy them.
Pretty much any race with a manual gear box is going to be heavily dependent on the driver. That Type R driver clearly knows his car well. Very impressed by the consistent launches and 1-2 upshifts. With such close HP and torque numbers I would have put my money on the consistency of launch control and a DCT. As someone who has owned multiple manual sports cars and sedans I am happy to have been wrong here. Any time a manual car beats a stick with comparable numbers it HAS to bring a smile to your face - COME ON! :)
No N mode? Was traction control in sport mode or completely off? Noticed you’re comment about it being in N mode even though you say sport mode in the video, should maybe clarify on the video itself, bit confusing. Stock vs Stock the type R takes it every time but not by much.
True, however, it still would’ve been close. The driver in the Type R is a beast, not many people can launch that car that well. According to car and driver the Veloster is 4.8 and the Type R is 4.9, I can only imagine the Type R with the 10 speed auto. Amazing cars
@@reloadingdontshoot1 if it's an AWD Stinger it will beat the Type R. Haven't seen a side by side before but this drag race was done a couple of times in one of Motor Trend's worlds greatest drag race videos... Stinger and Type R were participants. Stinger beat it, not by a whole lot but a win's a win.
Sam, did you use the Veloster's launch mode and/or NGS? Those are both systems that allow the Veloster with DCT to achieve it's fastest times. If they weren't utilized, you handicapped the VN right out of the gate.
Expected a better fight out of the DCT Veloster N honestly. It’s supposed to be faster than the manual version, but it doesnt really look any faster. Id like to see a 6 speed Veloster N vs a DCT Veloster N
I own a Type R. It is very slow off the line (just smokes the tires too much) and doesn't start coming on until middle of 2nd gear, then it out powers most of the other cars in it's class from there to the end of the 1/4. It also has gear crunch into 2nd gear. It has amazing torque in the middle of 4th and 5th gears as well.
@@jalmonte91 the Veloster N being a DCT, and the Type R a manual...I very highly doubt it. As the Type R takes MORE skill to launch as a manual. The N not so much. So it's STILL Type R FTW. Just because you wanted the N to win...doesn't mean it does in the real world.
To be fair, I think that veloster could have done so much better. The DCT model comes with full blown launch control. It could have shot off the line better than that I think. Maybe i am wrong, but it didnt look or sound like launch control was used.
All jokes aside, out of all the type r launches, this dude is literally killing it, please have the camera on him when he’s launching and shifting gears please!
No kidding. As a CTR owner I know first hand how hard it is to consistently launch them well without a tune to set torque by gear. Those aftermarket tires were probably a huge help over stock tires. The stock Contis are great for lateral grip, but they really suck for acceleration. I switched over to PS4Ss and was able to turn up my tune 30lb/ft in 1st and 2nd and still stick.
Next race can you get that mini ch-r yaris vs tupeR. We all know the typeR loses from a drag. WE never seen it on a roll. carwow never show us on a roll race..i love your channel watching from Mexico..
The TypeR is no joke. I have a new found admiration for the Veloster N. I always liked them, they are cool to me, very different and I applaud Hyundai for making something so different. BUT it’s the Civic TypeR for me all the way.
@@shiftautomotive854 why? The Veloster doesn’t stand a chance against the CTR anyway without using Launch Control. He makes it clear that doesn’t use it kn all his races.
@@pope9349 you're just a bigger type r fanboy and it shows lol type r isn't the best car ever made either. BTW a modified N over a type r modified. The N beat it around the track
@@dannygaldamez7616 hahahah if he's a type r fan then I can tell you are a Hyundai fan and goodluck beating a Type R around a track with your so called moded Veloster N🤣
@@dannygaldamez7616 wtf are you talking about? Stock for stock the type r is faster around a track. Go read the head to head reviews. If you want to claim aftermarket is better than a stock type r cool, but what about an aftermarket type r? Veloster n might be 80% of the overall package of the type r but 80% is not better. And you call someone else a fanboy? L O L
Wondering if chipping the Veloster would/could make any difference? I know it must be pretty maxed already from a power/efficiency ratio standpoint at factory spec.
I have a Veloster N. Buying a JB4 raises the horsepower by almost 100 and the torque by over 100 just by putting it in a map 2 tune. Where the CTR is making 306 at the crank, the N would be making about 300 at the wheels (and way more at the crank assuming a ~15% power loss through drivetrain).
@@rickcowan6727 Holy crap! That’s impressive. Chipping has really come a long way. Holding out for an Elantra N (some day). Nice to know that a relatively simple add-on could make such a difference.
