I Debunked the Entire Manosphere 

I want to save this comment somehow lol this is it all right here!!

Moving the goalpost at its finest

If you're a woman and single, you're either worthless if you have kids, or if you don't have them you're just a crazy cat lady. You have no worth without a man according to them.

@@Visitor145 Sir/ma'am, I've never been married and since I'm already 33 and have hit 'the wall' according to these 'men' I'll remain a cat lady until I die! Idk what kind of marriages you've seen but I was raised as a very conservative Christian woman from a third world country. I can do it all for any man with a baby on my hip. I know because I did this as a child and teen helping my mom with my sisters while my stepdad lived in the home and only worked (so did my mom btw). ALL THAT to say men have been molesting their children, cheating on their wives and having sexual side quests because they created a society where women had no other option but to put up with it or die penniless or worse risk the social shame of being a single mom. Just because the marriage doesn't fall apart doesn't mean shit isn't happening behind closed doors. Our grandmothers stayed through it all, some of our mothers got divorced and still had to chase down the man for child support. My generation is not even bothering with all the things we've seen. Men are filled with lust for women and zero respect.

@@Visitor145 thats a whole lot of backpedalling! ' In the end though what was done in the past to women and what many men feel is going on now, the only choice is to go along with it or leave' That's a real head scratcher. Add some grammar in there so it can make sense.

And that there's a TON of medical problems relating to female reproductive organs that medical science still barely cares about.

To be honest, I forgot Urologists exist for a second too lol. Though men don't go to them for checkups nearly as often as they should, the only time I ever went to see one was about 10 years ago, and that was because I had a small growth that I found. (It was not malignant, and the surgery to remove was a success. I asked the doc to add a few inches but he declined.)

Not always doctors but medical people such as opticians, dentists and physiotherapists who aren't doctors as they don't take a degree in medicine and specialise later but take degrees in dentisty, opthalmology or physiotherapy specialising from the start.

There's a difference though. Each part of the body requires immense understanding past the surface. But in a few hours you can learn a lot about most subjects let alone if you've studied how they intertwine for 20-30 years. The funny thing about this is when you study topics that intersect, you get greater understanding of the original topic and vice versa. This is why phycology is a joke without a base layer understanding of behavioral biology. Behaviors > thoughts.

The guy just needs to see a proctologist as his primary care provider.

😂 as a matter of fact she is. That's a product of feminist agenda though

@@antonioyeats2149 🤨

It was only a few generations ago that a woman marrying at 15 was commonplace. No one considered it to be anything but normal. It still happens in many parts of the world.

Making a 60 + year "life long" commitment at 15 is just ridiculous af and modern day people know better and so they so better. 15 isn't even considered old enough to drive now, but yeah have children while still a child. Sounds like a great plan for everyone involved

@Kyla Armstrong-Benjamin - I don't understand how you conclude it's "ridiculous af." Divorce rates were very low for those people. What these successful marriages tell you is that arranged marriage works, female virginity has value in terms of bonding, and the grandparents' participation in the marriage has its own value. Contrast to marriages today: most women don't marry until around 30. Most marriages fail. Most women are promiscuous for the first 10 years of their adult lives. Women base compatibility on arousal. They call it "vibes." Pregnancies at 30+ are fraught with problems. Children raised by single mothers are far more inclined to use drugs, experience severe depression and complex trauma, and enter prison. You may want to reconsider your conclusion based on the facts.

sorry for your loss. She sounds like an exceptional lady.

it's a reFACTion

If you just define “emotion” as “what women do” and “fact” as “what men do” then yeah I guess men are factual and not emotional

@@DavidW-ng5zv yeah! Better to bottle them up and unleash them on our loved ones!

@@DavidW-ng5zv Any man who feels anything at all is weak to you. I feel sorry for you honestly, the inside of your brain must be a mess. You probably aren't very nice to yourself.

@Midnight Of coarse men have emotion. But one should not based all their views or decisions on emotions as important as they are the 5 senses and critical thinking are more important.

That feeling has a name: alienation. And there is no group to blame for it, it is the inevitable result of capitalist development. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gPRxxN4Kh30.html

it's a spiral of doom, they get banned from everywhere for saying their "opinion" and feel justified by that, but if you don't ban them you could get more impressionable people agreeing with them and then it becomes a legitimate party that will vote for their ideals, you can't allow this.

They don’t make money on talking about a world of acceptance, care, or having a humanitarian view of the world. I imagine the American male talked about here can’t afford healthcare if they don’t grift through life. I would recommend men from other countries to not mix up the grind in the US with a generalized European society. There’s not a lot of countries in as bad shape as America where grifting is a livelihood for so many.

Must point out that the old days sucked even worse.

Munecat blaming thing on patriarchy doesn't help either. I would like her to explain what is patriarchy and how does it influence modern countries in Europe.

This is true for a lot of these cases for all sexes. Always pursue it, never accept any less.

Male female both victims have same be behaviour. They tend to supress their helplessness and go back to the abuser.

@@sista363 eh, the female victims are more of a 50/50 in my experience

@@sista363 Female abusers are often a lot more subtle in their abuse, though, as it's usually a lot more psychological and less physical. Women tend to abuse through gaslighting and other forms of manipulation, which typically results in her mistreating and disrespecting her man while convincing him and their mutual friends that he is the problem. Long term, this can result in major depression and trauma and even questioning your own sanity. But good luck getting anyone to take you seriously. While feminists keep arguing that men are privileged, it's really women who are privileged, as men's rights, men's suffering and men's issues in general are almost always ignored and even ridiculed.

@@OutOfTheBoxThinker yes this is a common one, I've experienced it and most of my friends have, when a woman treats their partner like shit, flirts with people in front of them, shows them direspect, goes along with other men messaging them, tells their friend every private detail etc. When their partner eventually says they dont like this they are informed by her that they are 'controlling and abusive', trying to control what they do. And when this drama gets out, everybody will side with her because we've been told we have to unquestioningly. Of course though most domestic abuse is committed by men and we need to sort our issues out as well. Particularly men pulling the mental health card to excuse actually abusive and controlling behaviour. Mens issues are ignored because of the same sexist mindset that women suffer from as well, I.e women have to be always feminine and weak, and men cannot show weakness, depression, emotions, have supposedly feminine interests or admit loneliness. They are kept from their families by courts because they have the sexist belief women are there for family work. Both sexes are suffering and it shouldnt be a men Vs women thing.

🎉 yay!

It's hard to avoid it entirely. They are good at advertising. I've been lucky enough to notice the bits where they accidentally say the quiet part out loud, before I got suckered.

What got you out? I'm curious

@@anthonybird546 (english is not my first language) time, maturity ?? i dont really know. i also had depressive episodes. i guess when you touch rock bottom you say to yourself :wait i gotta self actualize... there is also the mee too movement and i realize that i wasnt the only one suffering. so i was like : "men are suffering women are suffering what's going on" and you start searching of answer not the easy one of the manosphere videos but more complexe and scientificaly proved concept. and then i started having interrest in sociology, the neoliberalism , feminism theory, books that talk about class gender and race inequality and i think that gave me a better understanding of the world. and step by step you get out of this rabbit hole. i think that manosphere theory give you a frame trought wich you can see the world and understandng it better you have to replcace it with something else like for exemple human sciences (sociology, psychology, phylosophy...)

Congratulations! I hope you've found peace of mind 🌻💛

Nobody dies because everyone knows death is bad

"If you're going to get stabbed, just remember they can't do that without your consent and it'll all be fine"

To be fair, that's not what he said. He essentially says that [people say out loud that rape is bad,] therefore [society is hostile to rapists.] The 'duh' isn't [people do crimes] but [people lie].

@@JoshSweetvale let them be disingenuous that's the entire point of this video in the first place. She even use the argument that cheating is not the norm to defend women but had no problem using rape which is even more uncommon as if it's a normal thing that happens to women everyday

​@@Victhemightyya, because rape is an order of magnitude worse bud. It isn't disingenuous to say (fore example) "Women cheat 10% of the time and that's fine" and also say "1% of women are raped and that's bad". They aren't the same thing...

I think the only men that can hold that belief are men that see very few or maybe even no labia. I have sex with women that have huge amounts of sex and every woman has different labia and that's very beautiful and interesting by the way.

@@ouwebrood497 I would argue that most men have seen lots of labia, but only through pornography. Which is like saying you have seen a variety of cars because you watch formula 1. Its hardly a good representation of the general population.

@@ihurtmyarm Good point! I admire sexual freedom, but I have a problem with pornography. It's the unhealthy fastfood of sexuality. Lots of young men with erectile disfunction or premature ejaculation because they watched too much porn.

@@ouwebrood497 I am torn on this issue. I have also heard that increased availablity of pornography reduces incidents on rape. I think the main problem is that it is too easily available for young people to access and that, like everything on the internet, it has been a race to make the most extreme content.

@@ihurtmyarm To my knowledge, there hasn't been much evidence for either one of these: that availabilty reduces sexual violence or (what some claim because porn could have a 'normalizing' effect) an increase in sexual violence. What I'm pretty sure of (don't know if there is hard evidence) is that for the individual development of sexuality it is not good. Men should have easier acces to real women, which shouldn't be a problem, because lot of women are willing to be with a man if they want to pay. Than a man learns how real sex works.

Yeah that was so sad 😂😂😂😂😂

How is this podcast allowed on platforms?

But we are not emotional bros, my outburst when people point my respect hypocrisy is completely factual bro, only women emotion, I big testosterone, gym, facts, never mad, only women get emotional

@Sean E because of the purposeful dumbing down of society, I dunno

@Sean E they keep contradicting their views, i do not understand how they have following.

They frighten you 😂

same with women accusing men of stuff

It's more like: "So many women." Honestly the thing that really frustrates me is seemingly a third of women want men to behave the new way, and a third of women want men to behave the old way, and a third of women switch back and forth depending on what's convenient for them at a given moment. They don't wear signs that tell you which one they are, and if you pick the wrong one for even a heartbeat it can destroy the relationship or even ruin your life.

@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Have you tried asking the particular woman you're talking what she's looking for?

​@@Vladimirwlr1234 How about they just leave me alone.

this video is trash, brent turvey foresic scientist research shows 30% iof allegations are false, debunks this whole video, motives range from caught cheating dont want to be lablleed the you know what bad name, to money, fame , power revenge etc

lol she says very grandoisily theres never been eveidence for fasles accusations, proceeds to show evidence such as cheating use false accusation as scapegoat when caught etc..

1 in 52 is absolutely still bad! My smallish state university had 11,000 enrolled students every year.

@@corysmith3447 what

@@corysmith3447 She merely made the (correct) argument that the performative fear of ‘being accused’ by women has no basis in reality. Whats more, it creates an ‘us vs them’ paradigm. We can all agree that both men and women have been SA’d, falsely accused of SA and physical violence. People are just terrible overall. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be empathetic for the victims. That being said, women are currently the victim of domestic and sexual abuse more often than men are the victim of false allegations. I have been on the receiving end of ‘false physical abuse’ allegations. And while it wasn’t a great experience, the charges were dropped instantly when there was zero evidence. My experience wasn’t fun, but significantly better than women suffering through abuse and fearing the consequences of coming forward.

I've always wondered about the concept of a "man's man." Cuz, uh, that's just Masc 4 Masc...

The 2000’s meme of “I’m so manly it takes a man to satisfy me!”

@@Ellie_deMayo Damn, now I need to figure out how to use that in a conversation

Yeah you are right, I am going to shave my mustache and have my toe nails did! Thanks for the advice

@@TonySparxx you’re 12. you don’t have a mustache. stop watching “feminist gets owned” compilations and go touch grass.

"that's not a real thing." and then they wonder why the number of asexuals are rising. Like could it be that your personality is such shit that it's turning people off? So sorry that happened to you, of course asexuality is real and valid.

@@hey9433 what?

@@hey9433 You realise he wants to be friendzoned. That's what being ace means. You know, asexual. He just wants to find friends.

@@hey9433 you must not have any reading comprehension huh

@@hey9433 I appreciate that everyone else here appears to be as confused by this comment as I am

What's hilarious is that in hunger gatherer communities, research shows that women were hunting almost as much as men. Both opportunitisxlt as well as actively. And 80% of food came from gathering, meat was a rarity which is why dogs became omnivores because meat wasn't always available. (Also fun fact! It's been recently found that it was thanks to women dogs were domesticated! As men only treated them as livestock to help with hunting, but women treated them as trusted companions and as part of the family. So much so they would even feed abandoned pups with their own body if said woman has a baby herself ! Very cool!) And the defining role they talk about is that women stay home and men work only really existed in the 50s, for most of history women have always worked even if they were never paid for it. They have always been a part of the work force. I have no idea why the manosphere insists on the 50s ideal because not only were women having to use drugs (mummy's little helper) to keep up with the workload of constantly popping out babies and also treating her husband as if he were a child. There's a reason this dynamic didn't last long. And why single and childless women are the happiest demographic of all people. Men have only ever benefited marriage. It was guaranteed they were allowed to reproduce because women didn't get to choose who they were with and it also meant that men got a free mummy bangmaid that had to obey him no matter what. It was created to benefit men and that still rings extremely true today. Even if a woman outearns her husband, he will still expect her to maintain all the responsibilities and child rearing as a stay at home mother. Which is why studies show that when a woman gets married, her leisure time is drastically decreased or gone entirely while mens only increases because she's now taking care of things he did when he was alone. There's a reason why the happiest demographic of men are married, but the most miserable are married women and single men.

Glad you got out.

one thing that concerns me greatly is how deep this kind of content is shown and targeted for children, it's not so evident like globally but in Brazil where I live most memes and cultural things on the internet for kids between like 8-14 I would say are Manosphere adjacent, I see the way my younger cousins act and it's just horrendous to see

My parents got divorced when I was 10. Dad cheated. To this day my 74 year old mother still insists she did absolutely nothing to make it happen. I know my mother, I know her arrogance. I know exactly what she did, but she will never admit it. You have to remember. 2 people involved, 2 people responsible. The harshness consequences of behavior do not dictate who the real victim is.

divorced mothers and widows are NOT considered single mothers in the manosphere community. Singles mothers refers to mostly baby mamas who have children out of wedlock.

@@andrehines divorced mothers are the same category. They are infact the epitome of it, when they eject for the cash and prizes.

@@andrehines weird they call them kids of single mothers, and not kids of absent fathers. So convenient to blame women for everything as if they get preggo by flower pollen.

You are talking about the righteous single mother of the past. THE PAST IS NOT THE PRESENT REALITY. PAST "MOST SINGLE MOTHERS" =/= PRESENT "MOST SINGLE MOTHERS" Now, most women don't leave because of "bad mens", but just because of "not good enough men". And if they are not good enough, while they never get a better man after that ? Any woman leaving her "not good enough" man but finding no better men, only have one person to blame : herself, not men. You tried to get better than you deserve, at the cost of destroying your famility. Shame on you. Women of the past >> women of the present. With feminism, ungrattefullness is not diseapering, it's just changed side. "Most present women = most past men" is what modern feminism is pushing for. Why MOST (not all) single mothers are bad according to manosphere ? If you choose a man serious enough to having kids with you, why cant' you keep long enough for your kids to even get more than 2 years old, what the fuck are you doing ? Men need to wait a women to choose them, and even if they go seriously about it, they get thrown out because the princes want to try again to get her prince after getting her kids. "First marriage for kids and money, and then go back to the street to try again to get my prince". Once a woman get too entitled and try to get better than she what she deserve, she call out men to take HER responsability to leave the "boring" relationship. What single mothers does often, is living with a man, while he can't tell anything to her kids or ask anything from her, meaning they share a house and life, but only according to her own rules. That's not being equal at all. Whatever is the behavior of the kids, the women will put the rebellious toxic kids on a piedestal while the men need to be hers kids servant. How can you defend that kind of Single-mother behavior ? I am just curious. In your mother age, where could you find bunch of single mother with 1-2 years kid ? Only widow or some unluncky women could be like that. Now, women like that are the norm. Entitlement is key here. Ordinary men and ordinary life isn't enough for ordinary women. 80% of women, fighting for 20 to 5% of the top men in online dating. Majority of women (don't remember the numbers this time) on tinder ARE NOT SINGLE. Tell me how those bunch of single mothers appearing from nowhere have nothing to do with this, all telling "my man is boring" (= not good enough for me). Now, women are saying in the feminosphere "First mariage is for money, second is for love". How can women say that without any shame in feminosphere, but women keep defending them ? Unbelievable. Most break-up are done by women, they decide they deserve better while the father get thrown out while they keep the house, money, and kids. Kids are called "burden" during relationship, while single mothers say "they are my world". Kids are only called burden by women when they share them, to get slave-pity, but as soon they break-up they become "their world" to get courage-praise. That's how work modern womens : change everyone world view as long it suits your need. Call kids burden to blame men, then call them their world to get praised (and justify that mens accept being less important than everyone else, even the dog/cat). How many women just want to get "a better man and dad", when herself and her kids already have one ? "I am bored, let's throw him out and take all his money, it's time to find real love!". Don't compare them to your mother. Put her in history books and teach modern women what a real hero is : your mother-like, not them-like. The pride of martyr, is the pride to fight against suffering like your mother, not the pride to suffer because you screw your life but at least people won't blame you for destroying your family and mental health of your kids, because you don't care about anything except yourself and "your feelings". When a modern feminist talk about feelings, it means she stop caring about reality. Stop saying modern women are as glorious as past women, when they are just the most entitled ever. If a man have a bad life, is fault. If a woman has a bad life, his fault not her ! Women say "i need no men", their hapiness is the result of only their own work, but they get a man it's his fault if anything goes wrong in her life. Entitlement is real. But most feminists and single mother of today, are "garbage" (= self-entitled person, choosing random dude as dad of their kids, or leaving for selfish reason with zero tough about their kids outside of herself). Take a man, get YOUR kids (your kids only have one parent at birth), throw out the man and try to level-up your man while enjoying your ex money without asking why men should all be happy to raise other mens kids while being put last.

They only teach us to have an abusive relationship. As a man I learned that only when I learned about my fathers psychopathy that I understood this had prepared me to consider this to be normal. Thank God other ways to live are possible.

I did my own stint in middle school in the skeptic community (many of whom eventually moved towards alt right in the coming years) and while sometimes I wonder how I could’ve been so stupid to internalize so many awful things, I think it gave me something really valuable: first-hand knowledge about how these people think. And I think in your situation that’s true too.

The rabbit hole sucked a lot of us in, regardless of race. Hell, some are still stuck despite being minorities. I just wish some people would realize and differentiate between the memes and the shitty disgusting takes and ideologies fed to us then. Glad you're out of it now, I think as people grow up they realize how much they've been sucked in, and are waking up.

That's horrible. I hope you can find space and fortitude to work on your own wellbeing and overcome those shitty ideas these men doesn't even remotely know they caused.

We all did

@@emilyh7912 I haven’t though I just read a synopsis. To be honest this sounds like a book of evolutionary psychology wrapped in an anthropology wrapper. It appears to make some really sweeping pronouncements about human sexuality in antiquity without any real evidence. It’s not wrong about mobile hunting and gathering in the pre-agricultural world, but I don’t know how the authors can be so sure about sexual practice in those societies. To be quite honest this is the same sort of evidence guys like Jordan Peterson use to back up their ideas - that is to say there is no evidence one way or the other. It is entirely possible ancient HGs, in many cases, had bonobo-like sexual networks or whatever - but we do not have direct evidence for that - the same way we do not have any evidence that they would have preferred monogamous relationships. Social scientists love to use archaeology to bolster their claims about contemporary human nature but rarely adopt the humility that every archaeologist has about what the data can and cannot tell us. Geez I woke up grumpy I’m sorry. I haven’t even read the book! So whose the one making proclamations without evidence? It’s me.

Holy shit that's a big sign. O_O

Monogamy. Yes. That's what they used after agriculture. *looks at the nearly universal polygamy and concubinage in most literate Near Eastern societies, aka the ones who used agriculture*

​@@merrittanimation7721 How do these societies manage to get such a surplus of women to give nearly every man in the society multiple wives and/or concubines (assuming we're not talking about women being allowed multiple husbands)? I mean, I guess a single dominant, highly militant culture could steal them through raids, but it seems like that would probably make widespread polygamy difficult in the neighboring societies.

@@Freefall347 Not everyone had so many women in their relationships

Women

Great, that will really help me in my lifetime of loneliness in a miserable collapsing society where women get a leg up and I get nothing.

​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatyou won't have a lifetime of loneliness. You need to find hobbies and interests and socialise, you will meet someone that way. What do you like doing? Even gaming, girls game, or you can go to physical board games places! Don't make your happiness revolve around meeting someone, find things you love and go OUT and do them.

​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatalso trust me if you were a woman you would want to be a man. Women have to give birth, have periods, work AND do 90% of raising a child and cleaning the home. We also have a shelf life in terms of attractiveness when men do not. Oh and we DO get Rd, it's just not how you think. I was Rd by a colleague who plied me with alcohol when I was 23 and when I passed out Rd me. I left my job as I blamed myself at the time.

​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatugh it didn't post my original comment. I was saying, you won't be lonely forever. My biggest tip is broaden your hobbies and find out what you love and go OUT and do it. DATING APPS ARE BAD NEWS. If you go out and meet people who do what you love you will have stuff in common, develop good social skills and be appealing because a person who is comfortable and has built a life they like they are appealing. People want to be part of someone's world that way.

I took up indoor climbing and I love it! I met my partner through friends! This is the best way. Please don't think all women are horrible, the loud ones who have horrible opinions get ENGAGEMENT online and so you see them.

Wow

It's wild to me to hear men say they never took the opportunity to talk to women. Like.... that you have that option even is wild.

Super cool story! It gives me hope that not everyone is entrenched forever in their beliefs.

@@amys0482 Have you ever talked to men? Yeah that's what I thought.

@@SabatSch95 Yes. All the time. That is the point. What kind of question is this?

You really sat there and typed out the n word? Smh

@@treacherousjslither6920 ??tf up nicca

@@kofi6239 More ignorance. Sad smh

@@treacherousjslither6920 y is it ignorant?

@@kofi6239 It's the perpetuation of a racial slur and you're using it against your own people. It doesn't make any sense. Why say it? You think it's cool to say the n word or something?

weeeeelllllllllllllllll, be careful when generalizing... here is a hypothetical: Man is in a relationship with woman. woman gets pregnant (by accident or her intention it is irrelevant), woman wants to keep baby, man doesn`t. why should the man be obligated to sustain the kid? when he didn`t want that kid in the first place? please do note that i am 100000000% for the right to choose, but that right must be on both sides. the woman has the right to opt out of having the kid, but the dad doesn`t. the only viable way i can see this is for him to have the one-time option to acknowledge the kid, or not. in the case of not, he is to not have any contact or relation with that kid. what are your thoughts on this?

@@vicu_negru He knows what is at risk every time he has sex. If he chooses to do something that has an unintended consequence then he still has to face that consequence. And since he is just as much at fault for the pregnancy as her, then the consequence should be shared. Imagine he got an STD instead of getting her pregnant. Just because he didn't intend to get the STD doesn't mean he should ignore it.

@@jonathonrobinson6081 does Woman have the option to opt out of having the kid? Simple yes or no question. Ps: I totally disregard your example with the std, because it does not equate, for the same thing...

@@vicu_negru Yes because it's her body. There are still consequences to an abortion, so don't pretend as if it's an easy "get out of being pregnant" card. Just because a woman can opt out doesn't mean a man should be able to as well - unless you think the opposite is true, that a man can force a woman to remain pregnant because he wants to be a dad and is willing to be it's sole financial provider etc. even if she wants an abortion is fair?

@@jonathonrobinson6081 so, what you are saying is that even though it is a consensual act, the woman gets to choose everything... see here we have a problem, the dude has no choice, and the woman is the one who has all the choice. so what i am saying is this: yes! The dudette should have a choice whether to become a mother or not, her body her choice. and yes! The dude should have a choice whether he wants to be a dad or not if the dudette decides to keep the kid. as it stands if the dudette decides to keep the kid, the dude is FORCED to be a father, at least financially. and that is unfair, and it is inequality. look, you want to keep the baby? cool! no problem! can you provide for that baby if the man doesn`t want the baby? yes or no! don`t force someone into having a baby as long as you want that baby.

This video on the manosphere group but I'd lump them together with the likes of Deepak Chopra. With all of them they help a little as it's basically people in need of somebody to listen and then they hook you and take you for all you have. It sickens me what people are willing to do to make money and how many of them are then thought of as 'good' people.

I have a friend in business school, and he says they told students on their first class that the reputation of business schools always say terrible things, like they're teaching students how to manipulate people out of their money, how to lie just enough to not be legally accountable and such, and that they would prove this reputation wrong. They then proceeded to teach him how to manipulate people out of their money and to lie just enough to not be legally accountable and such.

There is a lot of good self help out there and honestly even a person you don't always agree with can give you good advice that can benefit you. It's about discernment. I think Jordan Peterson has helped a lot of people.

Yeah it’s an industry. And if people stay miserable, they’ll come back and buy more self help books. It’s all connected

It’s called “marketing” and it is included in comms and business courses

Simply psychotic. Least deranged boss.

Men literally sold their women and daughters for profit and or land, and then complain that our culture perpetuates this. While upholding the patriarchy

On a side note, how old was he? Because I just want to be sure…

I recently read a study that female surgeons and drs have a far higher success rate of correctly treating and healing their patients than their male counterparts, but they're paid 2.5% less than their male counterparts. :/

Seriously. They need to be investigated.

Yeah, can't look up proof to debunk their bullshit if you don't have a cellphone

​@@KaritKtanaunironically a non-zero chance that some of those women have been taken advantage of by the hosts or guests, wouldn't be surprised with how vile those guys are

@@Scooter_Alice Well no shit, ya think? I'm sure some vile stuff has happened in that building.

I knew their podcast was awful, but I didn't know about them taking women's phones and then having them get drunk so they can barely argue against them. If you have to get someone drunk to beat them in an argument, then you've already lost. And the nerve to charge hundreds of dollars FOR A PHONE CALL ABOUT ADVICE YOU COULD GET LITERALLY FOR FREE ANYWHERE ELSE. Just preying on insecure young men and it's fucked up.

Most will

Most women do even if they can't pull it off

Not all men, but more than enough.

Here's a perhaps interesting observation from someone who has explored the cultural developments of the 20th century quite a bit: In the supposedly more monogamous period of the 50s and earlier that these guys mythologise, cheating was actually MORE common, and MORE acceptable. Like, songs and films and whatnot outright glamorising cheating were all over the place. This was precisely because women were financially reliant on their husbands, so if those husbands cheated on them, they just had to take it. They didn't have the option of walking out -- unless they had themselves been cheating, which they may have done simply so they'd have a plan B in case their spouse left them for another woman. It's only when women began entering the workforce and gained financial independence that they could demand fidelity, and the social acceptance of cheating began to quickly diminish. There was a really sharp change in how cheating was portrayed in popular culture in the 70s, which very neatly correlated with women's lib.

simple fact is, men are destroyed in divorce courts, men have zero say on abortion although it "takes 2 to tango" when it comes to the responsibility of bringing up a child, the list goes on and on and on. Hypergamy is a difficult one but still lot of truth in it. but you cannot tell me a lot of social media is not promoting hypergamy type realities because it is just a fact. Women do indeed throw themselves at celebs etc and celeb women do not sit there picking their fans to mate with.. they do often pick someone their level or above. Women pickiness is not based on fear in general either, I have never seen such strong discrimination based on things beyond ones control such as height for example.. even weight now is being brought into it. You only need to see the modelling industry to prove this societal norm also. all in all this is one large fail of debunking.. some are good points but in the large she just hates anything she believes is right wing as clearly she demonstrates.

Not a parent but I 100% agree. My company started offering paternity leave but its a shame its not a standard. Heck, my German colleagues get a year off man or woman and some don't use the whole year, some do. Theoretically both parents could take a year off together or in shifts and be at home the 1st 2 years of their kids life.

@North Korea Is Best Korea In Sweden parental leave can be taken by one parents or shared between them. But for obvious reasons when sharing, mothers will take the first period. Of course there are always exceptions to every "rule" maybe if the mom really can't be away from the job, even though I can't think of such a case. Even party leaders,CEO:s and such take a leave after giving birth. (Most leaders aren't women in that stage of life though but it happens.) But this is a quite child centered society. You don't question it when colleagues prioritize their child.

it's "an investment" for life to have a good start with your child.

@Mike Dalby i'm talking about the parent, not the boss.

@Mike Dalby The context I was talking about was another commenter who spent time with his child. Maybe you could trust that I know what I'm referring to. :)

hope God illuminates your way into healing man,I can only imagine your alienating pain. Best of luck to you,keep your head up don't gjve up on yourself.

I'm wishing you the best ❤️

@@gogego998 God already did a lot to him. Prey for God to leave him alone

Some ppl are dumb. I hope you are in therapy.

Neither you nor any child deserves to be treated the way you were treated. Though I haven't experienced what happened to you that doesn't mean I can try to understand the hell you went through. On my country there is a famous ongoing case somewhat similar to what you describe. Thanks for sharing your story, stay strong and I hope therapy is helping you!

The big figures are scumbags mostly, irredeemable, but they are brainwashing a massive group of isolated emotionally vulnerable boys. Sure there are grown men in that stuff, but read the comments on those types of channels and you start to see the trend. Isolating members from the outside using paranoia, hate, and unique acronyms and words that most don't know, all common tactics for cults.

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@@tumericvalley6749 this

Facts, facts.

i feel bad for these blue pill comunity seriusly, the later u f ind out about true women nature, the less time u have to change ur self

I don't know what your units have been like, but there was a while where every time we did that training the conversation would get distracted by the O's and what to do about false reporting.

I'm shocked this comment has been up for over a week without hundred of angry incels trying to convince you, the one with the education on this, that comparing an entirely separate species behavior to us is completely rational and totally applies to human behavior

@@droc5427 off course it applies to human behaviour, even because all species in this planet share a common ancestral, therefore there is no such a thing as "entire separeted species". By looking at mammals, there are even more traits in common with us because,guess what, we are mammals and we have traits in common with other mammals. If we look at the primates we can see even more similarities with us because the primates are even more close to us compared to other mammals. This is how the biology and evolution works. There are many branches in biology and they all use other animals to compare with humans, for instance: when you want to test a drug you first use rats because they are similar to us.

@@inrisalvatore9520 People who have an actual education on this say that's not how it works. Also while similar it isn't exact and there's a reason why there's a human testing phase of things. The fact that you used the lab rat example of all things just tells me you don't have anything beyond a highschool understanding of this. An entirely separate species behavior isn't an indicator of human behavior. Stop trying to make it seem like that's how it works

You contradicted yourself without even realizing. So you agree that the female animal is most likely to go for the higher ranking males, but would lose said ranking if he was aggressive? That makes no sense. Because aggression is a masculine trait that indicates dominance, which is what decides a male animal's level on the social hierarchy.

@@Ddx629 male aggression directed towards females is not an evolutionarily favourable trait. When we study mate selection behaviours in animals, we must remember that the females choice is completely based on the outlook for her offspring; an aggressive male will be a danger to her and her offspring, posing a threat to her ability to pass down her genes. She will not select him.

Funny you say that. Since women are 3/4ths of the ones initiating the filing of divorce and then have overwhelming advantage in family court and not only that but a financial incentive and a living weapon to use against the man they divorce by withholding visitation or denying it. I was raised by a single mother who voluntarily left her marriage even though by her own admission my father never laid a hand on her and was providing. Her excuse was she was "emotionally unsatisfied". Fuck the kid who now has to grow up and reap the consequences, right? Nothing about the rest of the story turned out "good". By sheer luck of genetics/environment/resilience I didn't turn out to be something worse.

Hey brother, I didn't really see anyone blaming single parents, rather pointing out the statistical fact that single parent homes raise the highest percentage of criminal youth. A second parent in the home is the biggest statistical marker for a Childs success.

A good example of a white person not wanting to take responsibility 🤡

​@@RU-vidStyleChannel The people featured in that part of the video from 1:00:02 onwards clearly blame single mothers for their childrens issues, while absolving the missing parent (father) of any and all blame. They're not blaming single parents, they're specifically blaming single mothers.

@@RU-vidStyleChannel They also think single fathers do a better job of raising children than single mothers. But children brought up in a home of strife with two parents constantly fighting don't do well at all which is why so many parents get divorced. What about families where one parent had died and the other parent still living? That was very common at one time in the 19th century and early to mid 20th century because of men being killed in wars and women dying in childbirth. If it was the father who survived and he was earning a lot of money he could hire a nanny to look after the children but many widowed parents struggled on alone. Nobody went on about how those families were dysfunctional and their children would turn to crime. If anything it was poverty that had a direct causation with crime.

I have a somewhat similar story. 22 got my first internet heart break, wanted to know how women work and spent a year reading everything I could find about pick up artistry. Started testing it out, which kept building my confidence. Figured out a sure fire way to get a woman turned on. Kept testing it. Had married women rub themselves on me at dinner table while their husband was behind flower arrangements, a woman on a date with another guy to the restaurant bathroom etc.. Got traumatized by the depravity. Wanted to know what it's like to really be with someone so got a girlfriend using the same tricks. It didn't really work out so after 2 years broke up. Got out of the scene completely and was fairly happy alone for a few years, all things considered. Getting into it benefitted me a lot in being more social, confident etc. but also made me despise modern culture and both men and women in it, and possibly later was the foundation for me getting PTSD.

Nothing that intense on my side but I read the game. It game me some pointers. But the part that stick with me the most is, the part on the book where Neil Straust said that his life is shallow and meaningless. That one really got stock in my mind. Some things are useful like, little life hacks… but that’s it. They are only little hacks nothing more.

the way early sobriety and the recovery industry in general function is like bringing scammers and bad ideas together with some of the most vulnerable people in the world. too bad theres so way to skip to mature recovery, because shooting dope is usually better than early recovery

@@michaelwerkov3438 absolutely. It took so long to convince my parents but finally there was a place that isn't affiliated with AA, you can go once a week if you want and you have freedom just have to write your schedule out. That was the only way

source: trust me bro

I don't have the benefit of your education, but I place a lot of faith in fields such as sociology, psychology, biology, etc. Even from a non-altruistic perspective I find the manosphere claims upsetting; patriarchy tries to dictate what and who I should be because I happened to be born amab; feminism liberates me from that.

So what do your studies tell you? Add something please.

Patriarchy told me to protect women, I dipped from it as soon as I could. It said not to steal, lie, etc. Umm, gimp myself? No thanks. I went the easier path.@@jeremy49988

​@@barry963You're gay for myron and fresh

@oddv123456 Peterson is about to lose his licence lmao

Exactly, also there is nothing more homoerotic than legally changing your name to admiring men's body's. 💪🦵

So much of this brainrot could have been avoided with a quick cheeky brojob. Always kiss your homies goodnight, friendos!

Amen

What about women MRAs?

​@@Taeodoestech same thing, to impress men

I encourage you to show him this video

Your brother found the light and is never going back 😂

​@@giftkorope5968 if you can call that light

​@@giftkorope5968 Like a moth drawn to light.

@@giftkorope5968 he should play TLOU2

Then it wasn’t actually rape. Unless you’re a child or mentally disabled, you will know if you’ve been raped.

​@@jpocallens6776You have been failed by the education system.

@@jpocallens6776 victims could be in Denial That's a real thing that happens I'm sorry for that awful experience kirsbluefield i hope u can recover

⁠@@jpocallens6776excuse me? you don’t know the details of his life and what happened to him, you don’t have the right to tell him that.

I’m sorry you went through that! ❤

Your anaolgy is a complete miss The first argument is there can't possibly be a "culture" for something everyone is against. A culture is something people embrace Your flawed analogy is about an individual commiting a certain act. And that he couldn't have done the act becuase of what everybody knows???? You're not way out in left feild, you're not even in the ballpark☺😂😂

​@@MikeBarbarossa _"there can't possibly be a "culture" for something everyone is against"_ Ah, sweet, innocent summer child... In short: R-culture, and every other - at the time - accepted abhorrance to human dignity and rights - slavery; ethnic segregation (such as Jim Crow laws, apartheid); systematic sexism (such as women not being allowed to vote or own property); systematic inequality (such as getting to vote based on status/fortune); oppression based on your religious affiliation; torture; et cetera, ad inifinitum, ad nauseum - are/were all _rationalised_ as 1) justified 2) necessary 3) not actually existing. R-culture flies under the radar by points 1 and 3... "the sl*t had it coming, dressing like that" or "no, that does not actually happen". ....the latter of which you just showed an example of. It is not that people did/do not think that being an unfair arsehole towards your fellow human beings is not a bad thing... they just found/find ways to ignore/deny that this is what they are/were doing. Not even actual R-ists accept being accused as such, they _always_ have an excuse to why it was not an actual R. So can R-culture exist despite everyone agreeing R is horrible? It can, it does. And every f-er denying it exists, keeps it alive.

@@michaelkarnerfors9545 very poor examples. You gave examples of things that were legal, socially accepted, and even backed by institutional might and governments. Complete opposite of rape. What a flailing attempt

@@MikeBarbarossa Alright, what about alcoholism, particularly during the prohibition? Everyone knows alcoholism is bad, and during that time it was even illegal. People still drank unregulated alcohol to dangerous degrees and recklessly endangered others. This wasn't because it was widely accepted, this wasn't because it was legal. It was because a bunch of mentally ill morons created a culture around a dangerous habit. What about homophobia in Western society? It is widely regarded as normal for someone to be gay. There are still large groups of people who advocate against it in the West. There's also racism. We all know it's bad. There're still many groups for it. Hell, the goddamn kkk still exists in modern form. Nazis exist in a modern form. We all know that's bad.

radio silence from them now haha@@MikeBarbarossa

The older I get, the more this fantasy of dating or sex just seems exhausting, especially if you're autistic. I can have a whole day ruined by a pair of uncomfortable shoes! I don't need to spend my life figuring out if I'm acting exactly the right way to hold the interest of a hypothetical hot girl.

the weird part about all of this is that many of the men that have fallen into the manisphere are actually perfectly dateable but like the misogyny the videos offer.. there are many happily married men watching this shit and they just see their wives as “one of the good ones” and still hate on the feminist leftist women that complain and want rights and equality.

@@Nassifeh For me there are no "hypothetical" hot girls anymore, I try not to waste my energy on fantasies and improving my outward image. Instead, I've worked hard on things like appropriate eye contact and studying body language. Anything that improves your social skills as whole will also help with dating.

​@@ratslayer4202 Oh, communication and so on is absolutely vital, I guess my bigger point is just that if you're (generic you) "weird", you can spin your wheels forever trying to be this kind of guy and hating it, or you can just go be weird and learn how to fit in with other weird people and it goes better. I'm in a very happy relationship now, but I wish I'd figured that all out before my late 30s. I think you personally are on the right track and you'll do fine!

Hell yeah ratslayer 420, slayed the rat inside

💀

@ OMG HII GIRL HIII I’m so parasocial

As a guy, im jelly

@@sothisisbasicallyhow4696 appropriate response

most sane comment that isnt sexist towards men

I, too, was knee deep in mgtow rhetoric. It’s a grift that preys on vulnerable men with trauma, unfortunately

@@Taeodoestech the irony is that they think they are trying to build up men by tearing them down. It's horrible

@@gardenboydon I don't think they're trying to build up a damn thing but their own bank accounts. Some of them definitely know they're talking a bunch of horse shit but their bank account doesn't care.

I remember when I was kinda into that shit when I was younger makes me cringe watching this now cause I know now how right Munecat is lmao

Just become a communist instead. That's what I did. I'm still depressed but at least I'm not a misogynist douche bag.

Normal is a euphemism for taller and more lean. I have good pictures and never get any matches on online dating. I got to lose weight and get jacked.

​@@dannyguy2008 There was an entire portion of the video dedicated to debunking what you said. Do you people just come on random videos and start spewing nonsense?

@@bratprica6383 Nope, I read the chart she put after the 80% OkCupid stats. Below average men get far fewer messages than those attractive. It’s even worse on Tinder and Hinge. I don’t know why she misread it.

@@bratprica6383 She didn’t debunk that part. Less attractive males get less messages according to the graph she posted. She just misread it.

​@@dannyguy2008 What? How did she misread it? The blue line literally reaches it's apex below average.

If this video makes you "feel" better, you've got deeper issues that you haven't addressed

​@Ddx445 if he can say he has self-worth issues I think he is, or will address it

I'm a lady with self worth issues so I can relate. Seeing some of this toxic behavior in this video reminded me of my exes and it makes me feel better that I'm 31 and single and didn't stay with them... because who needs that sh!t! I made the best choice 🤷‍♀️ lol men like that are the weakest and it shows

Self-worth issues hit all humans, regardless of what genitals they happened to be born with. It can be a vicious cycle for many, though, as worse self-esteem leads people to be desperate, and desperation is generally unattractive (again, regardless of what gender one is). Flip 22 coins (each representing a person) five times each, where heads is "success" in some thing (such as dating). Odds are, one of those 22 coins will come up tails every single time, while one will come up heads every single time. And that's for 50-50 odds! For 1 in 10 odds, in a group of 20 individuals, you could "flip" *32 times in a row* , and odds are better than not that one of those 20 will strike out *every time in a row* . That's just the nature of random events - some people can just be unlucky, and that sucks. But the two things that one can do is, (A) increase the odds, and (B) increase the number of "coin flips". With (B), that just means get out and meet more people. In the sort of context that increase the odds of meeting the sort of people you're likely to match well with. With regards to (A), that's situation-dependent, but the absolute worst thing you can do is be perceived as someone who thinks of women as "females", as some other species, for which one is supposed to play some "game" learned online to manipulate them into dating you. Everyone is a human. Different people have different things that they're attracted to - which are correlated with, but not at all completely defined by gender - but just treat people as people, enter situations where you'll meet lots of people, and things will work out fine for you. Because however poorly you may think of yourself, I guarantee you, there are lots of people out there who, getting to know you, will strongly disagree with you in this regard. As anyone who's ever been in a relationship with someone who had a poor self image (a VERY common thing) can attest. Look inside yourself. Are you a good person, or at least try to be one? Then there's no problem, and you're going to be just fine. :) Take care, Miser :)

@@miriahaustin5809 What are you defining as "toxic"? What are you defining as "weak"? Because nowadays, some women define toxic in a way where their boyfriend is not cool with them having male "friends"?

Also Also Jodran Peterson: I need 45 minutes to answer a yes/no question....

I can't stand Jordan Peterson....evolutionary psychology is a pseudo-science anyway.

Isn't he also an evangelical Christian? Wouldn't expect a lot of things to go together, but what do i know.....

@@floatingpointz5903 that's hard to pin down, as he's tried hard to keep that line blurry. When asked "do you believe in the literal reincarnation of Jesus Christ as written in the Bible?", Jordan Peterson's response was "well, it'll take 45 minutes to answer that question..."

Yes but that does not undo that he is precise with his language. Even if he takes 10 hours, that's fine so long as he is precise.@@c0nd0rd4myt

God bless you. You're seeing what happens if you stay there

Did you ever think about men talking like that talking about your sister's mother and nieces

U rock 🤘🏻

Any kind of "X owns Y" videos are painful to me and should be avoided, even those that support your POV. They almost always consist of one person who's done a whole lot of rehearsal and prep work blindsiding another person who's totally unprepared in a spontaneous encounter, and proceeding to dominate them by barraging them with stats and controversial statements, talking over them, cutting them off and motoring through talking points. Almost anybody caught in that situation is going to look or say something stupid, incoherent or ignorant. And often what happens is if the confronted person even hints at saying something that really does knock a chink in the presenter's argument, you can see the mask slip, the presenter gets stressed and the cutting off, talking over etc increases. In well-edited videos you rarely get the chance to see moments like that; they more often appear in things like long-form podcasts, but even then only if the host is honest enough to upload the whole exchange and not cut out the parts they disagree with. Point being you're never going to see any honesty in these vids and you'll rarely learn anything. Watching ownage just satisfies that part of the brain that likes to know it's right and is happy to see the other side kicked into the dirt. It would be better if everyone watched well-considered, long-form debates where all parties came prepared, armed with all the research and didn't just jump each other with aggression, but no video titled "Feminist civilly debates anti-feminist for three hours, disagree on some things but agree on others, concede to each other's points sometimes and end up with more knowledge and a generally respectful understanding for each other's POV" is going to get many views.

“As I went to university” is huge, and a real reason why the misogynistic (who happen to be mostly right-wingers for some crazy reason. Gosh, I have no idea why/s) are against college, claiming it brainwashes young people… lol. University opens the door of insight, which is pretty dangerous for them. Glad you escaped

Yeeessss

Or, after the "alpha wolf" research was revised, "so you're a pregnant canine?"

@@floatingpointz5903 Hell yeah hit them with the original Mech thesis counter

​@@floatingpointz5903 Even the original researcher abandoned the idea pretty quickly, and has spent most of the rest of his life trying to debunk the idiots.

Hit em with " Id rather be a sigma anyway" make something they think is below them become superior.

Wait until women get moved to the front lines in the coming world conflict. Her videos will be even funnier 😆

Ya but I was spooked 👻

@@Jim-yl6tf women are already fighting on the front line in Ukraine against Putin's neo-Nazi thugs. Your point is?

Quick to the base-cave.

That was 200% for real.

When she explained that I cringed. I've had similar situations with male and female friends. I've also taken stats and work in health equity. The fact researches didn't realize likely traumatized people in denial would probably say no if they were flat out asked if they'd been SA after a barrage of other unrelated questions is sad. You can't use a sledge hammer for a sensitive topic and expect people to be honest, even if it's anonymous.

@@RoseEyed what was the reason for cringing???

@@littleshrimping6872 that the researchers would put in that much effort just to make a basic mistake like that

@@RoseEyed Unfortunately that's just an inherent issue with using self-reporting methods of research. You can anonymize everything and encourage honesty by reassuring them that personal information won't be publicized or by phrasing questions in non-invasive ways, but it's never possible to ensure complete honesty from every participant. Self-report measures and methods will always be flawed in that way.

Yes this is SO COMMON for men. It breaks my heart.

And women openly insult and reject 'nice' guys..😂😂

​@@keithhunt5328Honey, I know you've been consuming a 24hr feed of nothing but manosphere junk since you entered your freshman year of high school, but there's an outside 😂. Go talk to real people.

Same for women. Dating apps suck for both sides

Dating apps are why so many people have sworn off dating. So much ICK!

It's literally no different for men the way women act entitled on there is insane.

Oh please 🙄

​@@painunending4610 Men get upset at women for what women won't do for them. Women get upset at men for what men do to them. There's a difference.

I find your comparison of the two disturbing. No one will take what you went through and sweep it under the rug but victims of both have very seriously different consequences.

@@joshuanathanael2123 firstly, it’s a very common reaction to sweep SA under the rug, so much so that i did it to myself. i downplayed what happened to me and didn’t put any blame on the guys who did it. part of me wanted to believe it was my fault because, if it happened because of something i did wrong, surely that means i could do something differently to avoid it in the future. that’s why victim-blaming happens; it’s comforting to imagine that SA can be avoided if you just wear the right clothes or act the right way. secondly, i don’t think the comparison is unjustified. my emotional health was in shambles after the SA, my trust in people was ruined, and i don’t think i’ll ever be the same, even after therapy has helped me greatly. my life was permanently changed on someone else’s whim. i wish i could trust strangers the same way i used to. now i’m a much more fearful and distrusting person, and i can never get back the safety i used to feel in my body. before i did any healing, i was terrified of being in the same room as a man, which is the same feeling that some men claim to have when in the same room as a woman because “well she might accuse me of SA.” i thought that was an interesting comparison. similarly, since many people think SA is the victim’s fault, i could easily be shunned for what i went through just the same as someone falsely accused could be shunned for what people think they did. i’m not sure what the point of your comment was exactly, so maybe i’ve made an error in my reply. i just find a strange irony in seeing some men react to the me too movement by talking about fears that are VERY familiar to me from the other side of this whole thing (fear of being alone with someone a different gender, fear of someone destroying your life at random, fear of judgement, etc).

@@joshuanathanael2123you must not have been SAed then… because it does happen. Source: happened to me. My best friend had a false claim filed and proven false… and my attacked went free with a fancy layer. And he will say he would take a false claim over what happened to me. Broken bones and internal hemorrhaging are rough enough-having people blame you for it… there aren’t words for it.

@@joshuanathanael2123 I have been falsely accused of rape by my own girlfriend who I adored at the time. I have also been raped. Guess which event I got over, and which event scarred me for life and left me traumatized beyond repair? Guess... (ps my accuser eventually- after some time- broke down and admitted that she lied for attention. which is what happens in most false accusation cases. you can remedy a false accusation. you can not remedy a fucking rape.)

​@@joshuanathanael2123 I'm a man and even I know that SA gets swept under the rug. I remember during the 80s that SA was treated as a joke. Locker room talks that essentially involved men bragging SA women and how no one will do anything about it.

Alpha literally isn't a real thing anyways. That paper studying wolves was disproven by its own author.

A real alpha doesn't use those words.😂

You're. But yeah, this red pill / manosphere culture is full of bullshit bingo terms. Unfortunate, for a big part of what it says is uncomfortable, but very true. People just don't like unconfortable thruths, be it climate change, or falling birth rates (guess why).

"Any man who must say, 'I am the King', is no true king." ~Tywin Lannister

“A man who needs to yell ‘I am the king!’ is no real king.”

I think it is pretty obvious they are generalising, exceptional comparisons do nothing to disprove a general point

@@James_36nice ragebait

​@@James_36L comment

I am gay as well. THATS TWO WHOLE PEOPLE FIGHTING THIS FACTUAL FEMALE FACT

@@James_36 Who invited you?

Weird how when others stop trying people are interested in them meanwhile I've never tried and no one's ever been interested in me

No, it’s not because you stopped looking for dates, it’s because you stopped being a desperate tryhard. It’s a difference that most guys ignore. Persistently looking to get dates is a far better strategy either ways

how long were you like this ?

@@marvin2678 Shamefully long. Maybe 3-4 years if you include the deprograming phase

@@PuddiPuddingdoesnt seem to work for me lol

👍🏻👍🏻

Lol the internet came full circle and I found the victim part of it. Times are wayyyyy more racist now then in the 1960’s It’s so hard for us non whites. Keep up the excuses

Calling heavy critique of short men: HEIGHTISM (and also racism because this form of discrimination is a direct byproduct of racism, sharing its systemic nature too). But I mostly agree with you.

@@Thenewbronzeagecollapse in what way do you disagree with her? be clear. What did she say in this comment you disagree with?

​@@Thenewbronzeagecollapsethis is, if at all, Sexism, my dear. 🤦🏼‍♀️ I see that this is a difficult thing to handle. It may also be that some short kings may try to compensate their heft with pretense. And some women may be shallow, like men at.

It’s like two steps away from being kidnapping by law.

@susie x_o fan As a teacher, you have a very easy explanation as to why you need the phones away. As a host, you have none that are not creepy (the F&F guys are not teachers btw) The 2 contexts are ABSOLUTELY different and incomparable... Loved how you did not mention the drunk part because you have no rebuttal on that one

@@garancebarbier7381 ...the male guests phones are not taken away and they don't have to sign any waiver

I guarantee there are women who have been assaulted resulting from that 'podcast'.

Nobody can get a grown up to do anything they don’t want to do…shout out FNF

What's your girlfriend's rating out of ten? How many men had she been with before being with you?

@@kmann100500 for a second I thought you were serious lol

@@adult_nubian I am. There is no use claiming you're a winner without stating what the supposed prize actually is.

@@kmann100500 Wait. So you're saying a woman is a prize to be won and she's only valuable if she's a ten and a virgin? Clearly you haven't spoken to many beautiful women. Go outside and touch some grass bro. It'd be more fruitful than inciting arguments with strangers online ;)

@@adult_nubian nice strawman and evasion. Quite telling though.

Stop divorcing your husband if you want him to stay. The best option for divorced men is restarting a family instead of dealing with your new husband

@@19382q being a husband and being a father is totally different roles. But you punishing Your kids coz your wife doesn't want you says a lot about you. If she can still be a mother after divorce you can be father.

Just ask feminists to ensure "equitable" outcomes, where dads have equal access to their kids as mums. Let me know how you go.

@@robotnoir5299 that's your responsibility. No one can forbid you from seeing your kids

​@@robotnoir5299lol it seems like you don't know that today most cases of custody after divorce end up with split custody followed by the father giving full custody to the mother, if those fathers really wanted their children they could fight for them on trial but they don't

1 in 52 is too low a number dude. In Germany alone atleast every 1 in 3 has dealt with sexual assault or harrassement

Nah....cant be. Gotta be feminism amirite? Certainly can't be late-stage capitalism

Perfect comment

Come to the red pill, we encourage men to work on them selfs and build them selfs, be it ur carrer or ur body

You just "flipped the tire", toooooo less! Hehehehe, Wulfleyn

@@franciscopereira5760 .....and also to think of yourself in terms of sexual market value while assigning yourself an arbitrary x ouf of 10 number so you become more self conscious of yourself. While hating women and seeing them as objects good only for breeding. We'll teach you how if you don't look like the stereotypical Chad then all hope is lost, and you'll fall further down the alt right pipeline. Finally culminating in an act of violence or sexual assault. At least 99% of the "Manosphere" is like this. Theres 1 or 2 prominent members of the men's right activists community who genuinely try to help, but most are grifter pieces of garbage.

Meh, you are still validating your opinion on the internet...it's just a different opinion now.

@@misevibre if you dont see the difference between the "opinion" that the manosphere regurgitates and the opinions that are backed by actual critical thinking and research, as demonstrated in this video, then you are just triggered that your manosphere bubble got burst with clinical precision and common sense.

@@rsk47reviews59 mate there doesn't seem to be any evidence in this video either. It's mostly calling them incels, saying f&f are scam artists (which is pretty true), strawman arguments, and saying "but there's no evidence!"

@@rsk47reviews59 You're delusional lmao

@@vanguard6937 why are you here then?

are you okay?

It’s been 18 hours, I’m sure they’re fine by now.

@@justinwatson1510 or dead

@@bazdotorg I survived, barely.

bet it was soy milk

I 100% agree, like the appeal to nature fallacy is so rampant in these groups and what they say men are "naturally" is just them projecting their own fucked up view of themselves onto others.

You know it's actually a lot more common for women to blame their bfs/husbands for when they cheat, right? This is the problem with feminism, y'all take equality to the extreme. You literally think men are women and women are men, we're not! Those "stereotypes" are descriptions of how we're different between the sexes.

​@@Ddx629 lmao 'NO U!' classic manosphere circular logic. You proved her point by instantly blaming her for your actions lmao. Then you attacked feminism for some reason when nowhere in her post did she say she was a feminist or bring it up at all. The reality is: you need to take responsibility for your own actions and try to figure out why you have all of these misconceptions and hatred for feminists and females in general and work on it. It's really not that complicated man.

​@@Ddx629 also lmao 'You """"literally"""" think women are men and men are women!' Lmao wtf does that even mean? People know what men and women are man, no one's confused. You want to have productive and positive relationships with people and the opposite sex you really gotta work on this stuff. I'm hoping you're 14 and just regurgitating crap you heard your manosphere idol say and will grow out of this.

​@@Ddx629 also the video debunks your claim with empirical evidence at 35:00 you're welcome. Men cheat more than women it's just recently women's numbers are starting to catch up to men's because liberation has given them access to actual social circles equalizing the statistics. I'm sure you wouldn't argue people, even women - should be denied access to social circles right? And cheating is still not the norm for most relationships. I mean hell, anecdotally I've dated dozens upon dozens of amazing women and only 2 ever cheated on me.

I’m so sorry life has dealt you such a tough hand. It’s not easy to keep an open heart and mind in the face of all that; it speaks volumes about you that you have.

I want the conditions we live in now to never let the cruel things that happened to you, happen to any one other living human now. I hope that you and your life can heal and try to put it all behind if need be. 🐚🌱🌺❤🧡💛💚💙💜🌺🌱🐚

Hey man, that sounds really rough. I'm sorry you feel so alone. You're an amazing person for being there for your partner.

This is something that feminists always gloss over. More women hold these toxic views about what men should be than men.

I don't think it gets much more manly, standing on your own two feet after experiencing the ordeals you had to and still going through.

@@novinceinhosic3531 I was using tinder as a hookup app so most insults related to my body, like insulting scars on my body from past self harm and biking incidents. However I have also gotten insults on my hobbies, degree and career choice (cybersecurity and criminal justice), my fashion, everything. I’ve gotten similar comments from women too (tinder and friends) but I’ve had more men say it, women seem to not match with me on tinder lol.

​@@novinceinhosic3531 asking a woman that is a silly thing. Every woman has had so many bad experiences with men that it would be a book before we finally jotted them all down.

@@novinceinhosic3531maybe men should stop being assholes to women. This sounds like a more plausible option to me tbh

@@novinceinhosic3531 I am literally referring to the original comment. Use your brain, stop asking stupid questions, stop trying to gather attention by asking stupid questions.

​Well imagine yourself in the shoes of the woman and how'd you like to be treated. Would you like others to laugh at you, point out your weight etc?! Or be kind? @novinceinhosic3531

You should put more question marks

@@cocopus ???????????????????????????? Here, just for you honey. Hope you're satisfied.

@@anhelaanhela4996 most times the mom kicks father put of life and makes sure he cant visit or see his kids

BECAUSE THE MOTHER WAS ACTUALLY THERE, SO HER COMPETENCE IS OBJECTIVELY MEASURED

​​@@christopherbrown5409he mother can't be everywhere all the time, protecting the boy from every bad influence. When dad upped and split, he took away all of the protection he would have offered his child.

Not really she’s just trying to take young vulnerable people people from one extremely harmful ideology(Incel - Redpill) to another extremely harmful ideology(Marxism). Late stage capitalism isn’t a thing marxists have been saying this since Marxism was invented and yet life under capitalism liberal democracy keeps getting better for everyone and not 1 non-capitalist country has ever managed to be a desirable place to live.

Love that point, it illustrates how quickly misogyny and fascism rise

Love your videos man, really engaging and fun and educational, in both general knowledge and life. Thanks for making 'em!! Good to see you here 👍👍

We're not in late stage capitalism. We are in late stage corruption. The corrupt government is spending 102% GDP. The only thing to come is inflation. The root cause for this is the central bank system which picks winners and losers. A central bank working with government and corporations is fascism, not capitalism. If it's too big to fail, it's too big to exist in my book.

@@dobermanownerforlife3902 Fascism is capitalism in decay - Vladimir Lenin

keep up the good work! thats truly awsome. What you described in saving yourself is what a lot of the "manosphere" content creators preach. Unfortunately, people like munecat here, take the worst examples and PUAs trying to take over a male dominated space, and say that thats all of the manosphere.

@@vanguard6937 No. It's like the difference between chivalry and good manners. Should you hold doors open for women? Yes, because it's good manners, not because women are so weak they need your help with doors. You should hold doors open for everyone. It's a nice thing to do. Likewise, being responsible for yourself is a good thing to do. It's good for men. It's good for women. It's good for everyone. Giving advice to men about how to be responsible for themselves and become better partners is fine. No one has an issue with that. But the "manosphere" puts it into a context that places men's needs above women's needs with an emphasis on what women aren't providing men that men deserve and why men need to become more masculine to deserve it. That's toxic.

That’s great and all but please for my sake don’t procreate 😊

Exactly. "It gets better." That's all we need to be willing to believe, and not just for relationships, but for everything in life, really. Just wanted to add that I think one reason why the grift and sexism "work" so well, compared to advice like yours here, is when the person believes that they're having to do more work while others reap rewards effortlessly. Like, rather than realizing that this is a super normal experience for most teens, they're 100% certain that their bodies/circumstances are flawed and the other binary gender has it easier, so why should they have to do "extra" work, like develop some more emotional maturity and resilience? In this culture, we're raised with such ridiculously broken gender stereotypes, and from a young age, it's constantly implied that appearing attractive and garnering loads of attention (yes, even for femmes!) is a life-or-death situation. Realistically, the dating advice/PUA/sexism grift ought to be seen as the BLUE pill, not the red pill, because it's exactly what you'd expect based on the expectations that we raise all young people with. The true red pill / exit from the matrix is much more like your story, which leads to realizing that masculinity/femininity is mostly scarcity-minded nonsense invented to take our money and keep us too scared to build empathy for anyone.

@@mealovesyu ??

What in particular is nonsense?

What makes you think women want to speak to these men? Ask your female friends if they'd be friends with someone with no female friends. The answers will make everything make sense. Hopefully they will enlighten the normie mind

​@@painunending4610 the assumption that the expectation of friendship, and not having a simple conversation, kind of speaks volumes. You're already assuming that women owe you something simply because you're engaging with her, and you assume she'll reject you for it. Which isn't surprising because there are far too many men who only engage with women when they think they can get something out of us, and many women are aware of that which is why (shocker) they don't want to engage with you because they sense your entitlement.

​@@DavidW-ng5zv did you actually watch the video? Rewind it and watch it. She breaks it down in a very simplistic way. Hope this helps!

@@fawnieee also, in case you need to hear it, you ARE NOT a victim

Bei mir war es in der Jugend ähnlich. Man kann die Scheiße nicht rückgängig machen, aber es hat auch ne gute Seite: Wir können durch diese Erfahrungen den Gesamtzusammenhang n Stück besser/anders begreifen, wo Andere die Mindsets reaktionärer oder gar faschistischer Subjekte nur von Außen kennen.

​@@LiterarischeAktion Es ist wirklich ein Vorteil. Im Grunde könnte ich eine Doktorarbeit über das Thema schreiben. Die einseitige Darstellung, die man in den Medien zu dem Thema findet, ist auch häufig einfach nur extrem oberflächlich, extrem schwarz-weiß. Habe häufig den Eindruck, man wolle es gar nicht verstehen...

Ive spent 3 years writing a book that will mostly be given away free. Its designed to try and intercept people before they get so desperate they either off themselves or go down some dark rabbit hole. Its called "ADRIFT IN THE SHARK TANK - how to cope in a post-pandemic world" I got it back from the proofreader last week, I'm hoping to have it published this month.

Thank you for your story. At one point of my life I dipped my toes in radical feminism so I think I can relate a bit with you. I think that both radical feminsm and neo nazism (or any other radical movment) are symptoms of a society that doesn't work like it should.

wow Im so happy this 22 year old catlady has enlightened you. Im sure you're not just adapting the views of the last youtuber that 'debunked' something.

And you lot made them that way. It's simple, the haves and the have nots.

It's nice to have somewhere to go to for reassurance. We should always strive to improve as people, as emotional beings & learning the facts of the matters but every now & again, it's good to take a step back and see how you've improved compared to what could have been.

​@@eigelgregossweisse9563look inward my man.

​@@eigelgregossweisse9563Nope. You're blaming your shortcomings on other people. I suppose it's easier to have some red pill incel guru telling you it's everyone else's fault because it's too hard to look at yourself and change for the better.

If my son said these things I'd be utterly horrified.

that’s absolutely terrible. At least you could get your children away from him, I sincerely hope you don’t have to deal with another man like that

@bobbirdsong6825 Well, I'm definitely not looking for anyone to rely on or a relationship. I've been a single mom since I left him so for about 6 years now. I don't see the point in risking letting someone ruin everything I've worked for, you know? Thank you for being so considerate. ❤️ The world is a mean one out there.

@bobbirdsong6825 Well, I'm definitely not looking for anyone to rely on or a relationship. I've been a single mom since I left him so for about 6 years now. I don't see the point in risking letting someone ruin everything I've worked for, you know? Thank you for being so considerate. ❤️ The world is a mean one out there.

wow thats sad, glad you were able to recover :D hope everything goes well for you

Don't think most reasonable men judge you for such things at all. Many would feel a duty to help or free women from such things, but offering help any sort of help is also seen as we want something sexual these days too. Everyone makes mistakes that can impact them for many years after. Some more severe than others. My youth and career were pretty badly ruined for something that happened to me 13yrs ago and I'm still struggling to put together a somewhat satisfactory existence post-incident.

I can see that Don’t like the tates, I don’t like fresh and fir, I think any form of podcast in which you hand pick girl you know for a fact are onlyfans girls specifically so you can fun of them over and over again is an incredibly pathetic way to make’ informed’ content I wouldn’t date an onlyfans model, but it is just monetised bullying those videos, you don’t like them just stay away from them, be a little more careful with who you date Sorry that became a bit of rant but Peterson was, or is still in some ways the man that distilled all the BS from that whole community of people, got rid of all the crap and handed you genuinely good advice Like ‘if all the women don’t want to date you, it’s not all the women’s fault, it’s your’s, go do something about it and then they might want to’ But he loses me now, this whole religion talk is where I was done with him, I watch his old videos and I’ve read his books but he needs to pull himself back a little because you’re right, he’s getting wild these days

Yeah Peterson used to give actual good advice, and go against emotion based arguments with good reasoning. Now his arguments are just as ideological and emotion based as the ones he used to argue against.

Did you ever consider how women, minorities and marxists are persistently the source of multiple problems in the west and how they're never held accountable for their actions/choices but are persistently excused before of "the patriarchy" "slavery/discrimination".

jordan just used to be a standard run of the mill doctor, then lost his mind at some point. And dude i understand, i was far right for a good while and only in the last 5 years had a turn around. It isnt fun but im glad your starting to improve. Took me alot of touching grass for me to finally change, and ill be happy for anyone who takes a step out of that godforsaken community

There are stories of former followers or Jordan Peterson available online that are pretty interesting to read. Those stories can also be very helpful. It is sad that people like JP are conning innocent young men and preventing them from having a healthy relationship with a woman.

Attracting bears is easy, it just won't be the sort of attention you want.

Arming bears again, are we?

British people say bees to honey.

@@scottvelez3154 I beg to differ. Have you ever drawn a bear to you by caking yourself whole in honey? The bear is attracted to such a degree that it will mount you, tear off your clothes, lick the honey off in the most gentle manner imaginable while pinning you to the ground with its big, virile claws and then tear off your face at the climax. Really hard to get more erotic than that! Men love getting their faces torn off! Scars are manly so have a scar for a face means you become the most manly!

@@tomthomassony8607 british bees must b strange creatures

Yay 🎉 I’m happy for you. Sadly a lot of guys end up there

@Jad because it’s dangerous and toxic and doesn’t allow people to take accountability for their own actions/ short comings.

​@@JaddddddddddddddddddThe video, The video you commented under, The video built to explain it.

@Jad the proof is u babe

@Jad proof of the proof you're asking ? 🤨

It’s not just rape but the me too movement of a guy using his position for sex. Newsom had an affair and destroyed a marriage but the woman was like I didn’t want to treat this like a me too movement cause it was consensual. I’m like hmm. Did she sign a NDA like bloombergs women? Idk. Bill Clinton should have been prosecuted with the me too movement as it could be argued he clearly had a position of power over Monika.

Right??? We work under an innocent until proven guilty system for a reason, a fair trial only serves to find if it happened, not to find out what **didn't**

Sometimes for the accused not even an innocent verdict can repair the damage done by the allegations.

A false rape accusation is for life. I've seen it over and over. It isn't funny and it isn't OK. Go back to singing for ABBA.

​@@mrsherwood2599ah yes, and trauma obviously isn't for life

They are easy to spot

wait until those guys in the comments find out they can google celebrities and that they have wikipedia pages (stalker biographies) on the first page of google and a full list of every film and tv show they're in 🙃

I am speechless. I shouldn't be shocked but 🤦🏾‍♀️

@@barry963 what's you technique?

What does that have to do with anything?

this! I was always very weirded out that these people would complain about women being "boring and dumb" and then talk about women in only terms of attractiveness. I am pretty normal for a girl, have too much knowledge of niches, and a healthy mix of hobbies. When I first stumbled on to their takes, I didn't understand how these men went their whole lives without being near an interesting woman who isn't consumed by relationships or her looks or fame. Then I realized that they probably haven't been around normal people and have based their whole personality on a caricature of how women should act. They probably hit up some hot girl and when she rejected them, instead of being like "oh THIS person is kinda shallow" they just generalised the whole half of the planet.

As soon as you mentioned not being very liked by other people/girls despite being physically attractive, immediately made me think: yup Autism. (I hope the way i am saying this doesn't offend you/gen) It's just something that I have observed that usually guys who don't quite fit in either have mental illness or are neurodivergent, but they chose to ignore it and instead of help they'll turn to the manosphere as a safe space. (I am glad that you got out of that :))

The part about manosphere types having shallow criteria is so true. I'm a woman who goes to a STEM school with a gender ratio of around 2 men to 1 woman, and a lot of people here, men and women, are very academically oriented and put more effort into their studies and "nerdy" hobbies, than wearing flattering clothes or grooming themselves well. I do love fashion and makeup and conform to the stereotypical standard of beauty, and I'm often approached or harassed by men who tell me I'm special because I'm "not like the other girls who go to this school, who they'd NEVER go for", meanwhile they clearly don't put effort into their appearance either, and then complain that they're single. It's so hypocritical!! Like it's fine you don't put effort into your appearance, but maybe try giving the girls who don't put effort into their appearance a chance!!!

@@julesmallow any girl can get lots of attention. She just has to make an online dating account. Only attractive men do.

I think you are right in this one. I'm a shallow men (not pretending I'm really interested in women other than sex) and I had to admit to myself that one can't expect to get close to a woman while being shallow. I was always polite and friendzoned in less than a second. So you can complain about that or simply choose to be a shallow man, not having a GF relationship (that would be a large burden for me and her) and just visit a sex worker now and then. Also, you have variation in sex with very skilled ladies in that regard.

Good for you for breaking out early on homie. If you keep checking yourself like this you'll to grow into a decent rational human being, which weirdly enough doesn't seem the standard on the internet xD

what does being ugly have to do with being incel

​@@bro918the popular stereotype is that incels must be ugly and that's why they don't get girls. Of course it's not true, many or most are average to pretty good looking, physically speaking. But as we all know, that's not the actual problem. Nevertheless the stereotype persists, as they do.

self improvement is a great thing and tate makes a few great points but he is a freaking con artist thats why I hate him. so are the pick up artists theres no 1 size fits all solution for everyone.

@@almishti a lot of incels are actually unattractive or rly short tho. It's not all personality my man lol

I never treat women as a means to an end and I'm a 25 year old virgin. No woman's ever been attracted to me

@@painunending4610 Can you tell me in 300 words the following things: What interests you ? Why is that the case ? Can you tell an interesting story about your interests ? What is the story ?

@@Moncrom I don't see why thst's important

@@painunending4610 It absolutely is because if you cann't do that there is your problem. If you cann't answer those questions in a way that somebody who is not into you interests can follow it that's the reason women aren't attracted to you. In that case it's a twofold problem: Lacking the conversational skills to interact with women properly and being able to unterstand your conversation partner enough to rephrase your words in a manner that another person can unterstand you. Luckily those things can be changed with a lot of self searching and training. Also a bonus question: How often are you around groups of more than 10 people weekly ?

@@Moncrom eff it I'll answer Death interests me muchly. I won't say I'm obsessed with it because that sounds weird but I am incredibly fascinated by it and especially the cultural phenomeneon and taboo around it It interests me because it is so prevelant in each of our lives. We all die, we are all dying. In a world of such beautiful variation, where no two people are the same it is something we all share, something that bonds us all. Rick, poor, man, womans, black, white we all end up in the dirt eventually. We have all experienced death in some way, the grief and healing that comes with it, and I truly believe that is beautiful An interesting story? Nah not really, but women aren't attrcated to interesting stories

I berley realize that i was SA as a kid by one of my cousins i don't feel like telling my family because I believe I'm going to be shame as in the older bother but yeah sometimes i feel what did i do wrong or why my cousin did that to me

They literally don't give af about anyone else. They only care about getting their d*cks wet. Even real men's "issues" are only brought up in response to women's issues because they don't like ANY attention being taken off themselves.

The irony of your argument & you using it to beat down on men & support this asinine video, clearly goes completely over your head.

I was mildly SA'd in college, and it took me years to recognize it as such even without the trauma which comes with more serious attacks (often compounded by other factors). In the meantime, I was actually interviewed for research and mistakenly said that I was a disabled person who had never been SA'd (my mind went straight to healthcare, which was not the basis of the question). Please, understand that I do not mean to center myself or compare my difficulties to yours; I just wanted to add that even my situation was difficult to recognize due to societal factors (everyone who saw it happen, in public, laughed it off).

@@Robstafarian I completely understand, I shared my experience to explain that point - SA is very complex and a type of traumatic experience that causes deep internal conflicts, such as guilt and shame... using my experience (and others like you who are willing to share) to describe how we can ONLY imagine how horrendous it has to be in the shoes of r**e and heavy SA victims. The amount of guilt, shame, and general brokenness must be astronomical. Victims blame themselves and feel deeply ashamed and ''filthy'' in a way, so they tend to hide it naturally - the consequences of that type of trauma go much, MUCH deeper than what was obviously assaulted with the physical act. Thank you for sharing, it sucks that such a disturbingly large number of people experiences things like these at least once in their life... + the societal pressure and blame on top of it is not a nice combination at all. :(

Ninja sux... Trust me. Ran into that jerk a few times during the halo 4 days around 2013. He's always had brainless takes... Just some lucky to fail upward neo lib...

Couple goals!

I hope I will have a braless wife that makes me sandwiches in the future. (Un-asked for)

Being asexual is something to be proud of in this WAY oversexualized world.

Nah. Women don't find you attractive and now you're engaged in post-hoc rationalisation to avoid facing an unpleasant reality. Don't bother responding, I'm not going to read it.

@@steven-el3sw intercourse is over in a few seconds? - sounds like you've got premature exclamation problems

Cope

@@ThomasFoolery8 triggered?

If they use "female" and not "male" or "girls" and not "boys" - it's really telegraphing their position.

Let's take back the word Female!!

@emilymalinowski5027 nah let's use the word woman again.... Seriously- either use male and female or man and woman. That's the equivalent if they aren't using equivalent words they are being deliberately demeaning- whichever way it falls.

Lol that’s your fault if it makes you react that way. Why would it make you more insecure? Can you give a valid reason?

I’m the same here, man. Don’t listen to the mocking, ironic, self-absorbed and toxic comments from some men here. The red pill is just an easy way out of actually having to work on ourselves to be better, to understand, to be complex and caring human beings who can accept both the joys and pains of life. Nothing is black or white. There are no simple answers but a lot of good tools to be better. I highly recommend non-violent communication, CBT as a general tool to deal with a lot of things, and having friends who can both love you and tell you to your face when they think you are being wrong or an asshole.

Bruh red pill is life. No hymen no diamond

@@nbamoyboyy4325 wtf XDD

Should i have kept the blood in the glass? Btw look up biology and more modern anatomy: the hymen is not for you

Maybe most men used to be this, and realize that it doesn't get them anywhere

@@The_Lovey_Informer true, op has it the other way around

Is that why women date all the bad boys? What you're saying doesn't make sense. Because being the nice guy doesn't get you very far.

@@Ddx629 I really hope you’re young because you’re so wrong.

@@RobJT Then why is it that women find 80% of men unattractive? Because seriously, if women really wanted good and nice men, they would have had one by now.

I mean working in the house doing house chores , day in and day out without any holidays and working hours is big fucking job, that hardly more men have been capable of handling. Its just shows how strength is a synonym for women.

XD……except when it is economically viable. To say it was “never” viable is to open yourself up to be proven wrong the very second even a single instance of it working is there. And I know a whole lot of housewives that do nothing and do not need to secretly work to maintain their lifestyle.

@@brandonwilliams6221 where do you live? Where are you meeting all these women?

@@brandonwilliams6221 i think what op means is that the idea of the housewife who only does housework isnt a viable way for an entire economy to exist, and that in the instants in history when it seemed common, even then there were caveats

*GASP* You . . . you mean to tell me that the entirety of human history and civilization did not run exactly the same way as 1950s post WW2 gender roles and nuclear family model? I'm shocked! Shocked I say! 😱

those men listening to the redpill were already having no succes with women to begin with so no, its not helping them but also it does not matter, it would not work out for them either way.

what advice would you give them? surely if finding this huge amount of good, loyal, honest women out there is so clear and obvious to see, why are they turning to these people in the first place? where are these amazing women for them? that are not "picky" open minded and give a reasonable guy a chance? hmmmmm

If it keep on going this may lead to increase in violence We will have to brain wash and emasculate about 30-40% of men into thinking that persuit of romantic relationship is bad and working for survival is good for them So that the top 20 % of men can have kids with most women and remaining men can help fix some broken hearth ​@@James_36

​@@James_36 lemme ask you this. Has any of this manosphere advice ever been fruitful?

@@James_36 Read the bible. Go for a christian woman. Or a woman with traditional values.

Exactly Jamie. I thought of this myself and nice to see you echoing it.

This is based on the false idea that rape is a female on male crime. Also if false accusations are a major problem, it logically follows that the problem is institutional at a deep level. So to then say, "well the evidence is poor" is like saying the studies showing evidence for racism in the 19th century were scanty. Yeah, because the researchers shared the same biases and racism was working for people who funded them.

wait how does one falsely accuse the perpetrator?

@@rotisseriepossum Apologies, that was poorly worded. I mean the person being accused isn't the person who perpetrated the R/SA.

The Central Park 5 were never exonerated.

I think she made that portion of the video as a parody of that other channel.

Uhh...people have actually said that a movie about Seinfeld as a bee is every woman's fantasy? I seem to have missed large parts of the internet.

I just saw a man getting cucked by a bee and it was absurd and hilarious...that was all I saw

I was imagining how Berry and Venessas kids will turn out with that mix of DNA

MC?...

this is exactly, exactly, exactly it. the same dudes will do the same thing about business, or productivity, or *gulp* "health". it's very self-serving.

It is hard. The trick is making morons think women are cars or something and you just have to know how to operate them. As opposed to unique individuals. Before some dipshite tells me it's not hard, take a moment to think about how difficult it is to meet people in communities segregated from you, or meet new people generally. Women and men are generally segregated after college in terms of profession and hobbies. Most adult men also don't cultivate friend groups that easily after moving. So if you're in a new place, and you go to the designated opposite gender(?) meeting zone(almost always a very loud bar), you likely go alone and have a hard time. There is also no established etiquette anywhere else and if you try to play to the least common denominator(neurotic self diagnosed neurodivergent PTSD redditor), it is basically true that you can't ask women on dates most places you go for fear of making a woman theoretically uncomfortable in some way. So if people get all their information from online via other neurotic people and thus neurotic women, I can see how this bs might seem like an alternative.

red pill isnt for inexperienced men, its for men that have had it happened to them and they decided to go to those channels to get informed about the female nature, they learn what they did wrong, and they start focusing and growing themselfs as oposing of blaming women for not liking them cuz they were too nice. the blue pill has a lot of incels in them

@@franciscopereira5760 Just keep in mind that it can be a method to scam you from your money and to discern through their facts vs generalization. Red Pill doesnt only apply to one facet of life. The fact that people are donating money just to make a comment on live streams when its generally free is a red flag. This is for any channel really. "Dont pay for dates but give us your money instead". Its a transfer of money from the masses.

I have to shower? Eh pass.

I mean,you worked it out and woke up,you don't really owe us an apology,but we do appreciate that you woke up ❤

I hope you are doing well now!

That's awesome to hear! I also went through a similar thing and I see you, I got out of that sphere 5ish years ago and I wish I could say it was easy. I don't know about you but I sometimes remember how I was and feel guilty about it and I just wanted to say it's important for you to recognise that you were not the problem, it's a predatory and disgusting trap that too many have fallen into. The fact you escaped means so much and is something you should be proud of.

Improvement is always possible! This internet stranger is proud of you.

@@GabrielleTollerson It's not that I had to apologize. But it's therapeutic to do. I'm much better now. In fact, I'd hazard a statement I'm happy. Demons at the back of my head, but I'm 100% myself, have support, self-confidence, healthy image of people and myself. I'm fighting every day, for a better tomorrow. Always giving everything I got, because that's what a strong person would do. And I am strong and worthy. And I believe You here, in the comments section, are too.

Lol no that's false.

The most manly man I know fixes downed powerlines - so he is usually working nights in storms on remote hillsides on live high voltage lines. He is 6'5" and looks like a Viking. He also sits and plays with the kittens outside the apartment block, he fetches the shopping for old ladies, he holds the door open for anyone and everyone.

You’re on the right track, don’t let this as*holes bring you down. Respectful behavior is key, and this insecure little boys try to convince anyone that they can demand something they are not willing to provide themselves. Women bring new life into this world, and even if not, they all take care and nurture the souls around them, they trust and support people - they should experience that it’s appreciated, that their trust is justified and that men take care of them, too. In the best ways possible.

They always bring that up the suicide rate stat but ignore the fact the rate of attempted suicide in women is higher. They don't care about that tho, they just want a "gotcha" moment.

@@SQUELCH-zj7il lol what are you talking about? Okay, yet men are the ones who are mostly homeless. But you want to do what those women do which is competing on who has it worse. The modern world was built on men's health and lives. So it would lean towards men.

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That's why Dr. Strangelove is such a fantastic movie. Good satire is always rooted in some form of reality.

@XvonPocalypsepretty sure it’s found in toothpaste

​​@XvonPocalypseIt's antibacterial. "Vaccines have mercury" No.

I think Xvonapocalypse was quoting the movie. At least I hope he was. That is the actual reason for nuclear Armageddon in the movie though. One crazy nut job who thinks fluoride made him invirile.

@XvonPocalypse I can't tell if you're insane or if you're joking.

Some of those guys who accuse women of being highly emotional are actually very fragile and emotional themselves and on the verge of an outburst

@@artbygilik literally