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Insta360 Ace Pro vs DJI Action 4 - LOW LIGHT Comparison 

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NOT SPONSORED. This is a night city walk with the DJI Action 4 and the Insta360 Ace Pro, nothing crazy, just showing you how they stack up.
I've listed my observations about the two cameras, you're welcome to comment and add your own.
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@dyluht
@dyluht 7 месяцев назад
Both are really great but I think the ace pro has more dynamic range in low light settings. Really can’t go wrong here.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Yes, I think it's at the point where if you'd watch them separately you'd never know the difference. Both have their strong points in low light, and both beat the Hero 12.
@mikhail823
@mikhail823 3 месяца назад
how ever there is a focus issue with ace pro @@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 3 месяца назад
@@mikhail823 Well, I wouldn't call it a focus issue, but rather a minimum focus distance that some of us ignore. I've learnt where the sweet spot is and I'm always in focus now.
@RINGOTVReactions
@RINGOTVReactions 7 месяцев назад
This is why I subbed to your channel. Most of the other channels were sponsored videos and was only focused on praising the Ace Pro while posting misleading video comparisons with the DjiAC4 and Hero12.
@alexanderk.villach
@alexanderk.villach 7 месяцев назад
Great the insta 360 👍👏👏😁
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
It does a really good job when it comes to the stabe in low light, but I'm guessing that's a little bit of magic when it comes to processing, whilst pixel peeping you can see the image suffers from softness and this almost kind of pixel mashing look. The Action 4 has more brightness and can see in darker situations, but its stabe goes to hell if you're moving around at night.
@xenay911
@xenay911 7 месяцев назад
I’ve learned that you can get near perfect EIS in low light on DJI OA4 by setting the white point to somewhere between 5000-5500K instead of on automatic. Haven’t tried it myself yet as I only learned this yesterday but if anyone tries it or has done it before, I’d love to hear your experiences - to whoever may read this comment lol Thank you so so much, I’ve asked for low light comparisons on other peoples videos and you are once again way ahead of me xD
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I'll have to try that out and see how well it does. The AWB at night needs to be spot on, especially with all the coloured lights, so 5600k might be something I'll have to try, I have it set on just about all my other cameras, so why not! Lol, thanks!
@simoz78
@simoz78 7 месяцев назад
Those who care for night time videos want to walk to show the streets and people without the ugly EIS jitters. So the Ace pro looks 10x better than DJI in the automatic mode. If you use your footage for a walking at night style of channel, most viewers would leave the video seeing the DJI jitters at every step while they would keep watching the AcePro footage. If using manual settings on the DJI can fix the jitters, then is worth to compare them again in those settings.
@itsmattyboom
@itsmattyboom 4 месяца назад
Yep! 100%
@mad_bad_cat
@mad_bad_cat 9 дней назад
Simple as that. It’s unwatchable when you have micro jitters everywhere, I agree the colours look nicer but you can get tiny improvements on ace pro in post, you can’t fix jittery mess in post.
@itaktozrobie297
@itaktozrobie297 2 месяца назад
Chce kupic Dji Action 4 do jazdy na motocyklu. Doradz prosze jakie wybrac ustawienia do nagrywania w dzien i po zmroku . Kamera będzie na kasku . I jesli mozesz to podpowiedz jaki w miare budżetow mikrofon wybrac do kasku. Z góry dziękuje !
@ebikecrusun1483
@ebikecrusun1483 Месяц назад
can you advise the full list of settings on the action 4 u used
@jakevisuals1
@jakevisuals1 7 месяцев назад
looking at that big fingerprint on the insta's screen, you basically ruined its footage...and I am not a big fan of that oa4's jittering, the ace pro does do a better job on highlight control and stabilization; please be mindful when you are doing the comparison, this is not an authentic but unfair comparison
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I think the thumbprint is pretty authentic, who out of us has never touched the lens on an action camera, I mean they're made for getting dirty. Yes, the jittering on the DJI is hard to watch, it's like bad audio, makes me want to turn it off.
@happy1wandering
@happy1wandering 6 месяцев назад
A big point that ppl forget to mention, is that the acepro can only shoot only in 8 bit color & no Log picture profile, while the action 4 shoots in 10 bit & has a log option.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 месяца назад
Yeah and it’s a huge difference! 8 bit= 256 RGB Colours while 10 bit = to 1024 RGB Colours, which means smoother gradients, less noise, less banding, less blotches.
@Mn-xh9ps
@Mn-xh9ps 7 месяцев назад
The Ace pro with no lens removal is a definitely no-go for me. But the improve stab in low light is very nice and obvious over the action 4 in the setting you choose. Would you be nice to do a comparaison in low light but with EIS prioity on action 4 (If i remember correctly it exist on it) ? Or a 1/200 minimum shutter speed (also think it exist on it) ? If the action 4 manage to have a good low light stab even if it s a little darker, it s a total win for action 4 imo. On other subject, I have watch a lot of Ace pro review and I really find most of the time that the footage is ugly, the over sharpen is very agressive, over saturation too (maybe less) and most of the time you also have very crushed black, I hate this look. On standard setting with low sharpness or in log, the action 4 really manage nice quality imo. TY.
@craigshandworld
@craigshandworld 7 месяцев назад
same but 360 announced free replacement on the lens if broken with in 1 year. Not bad
@AdamHreszczyk
@AdamHreszczyk 6 месяцев назад
Actually it's the same system like in GoPro, but they put some glue on it. If you use the force, and remove the glue, it's removable.
@Itellthetruth58
@Itellthetruth58 7 месяцев назад
what is the point of doing an “honest review” when you are asking every single commenter to go for action4?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Well, for the fact that it's the better camera, so I'm being honest. Simple.
@xenay911
@xenay911 7 месяцев назад
Cause he’s stating the facts and basically the insta ace pro is way too hyped and expensive when you compare footage quality of its competitor(s). Maybe they can tweak it in firmware updates to toggle the AI influence better, in the future… so far I’m disappointed by the glorification of reviewers when it’s not actually that good…
@teofilol2666
@teofilol2666 7 месяцев назад
Easy, it's not honest despite his assertion 😂
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Care to explain?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Hopefully Insta360 is on top of all the bugs that they can fix via firmware.
@ArcticExploring
@ArcticExploring 7 месяцев назад
Better stabilization on Ace Pro, but overall OA4 do look best. I just hope DJI could improve this in a firmware.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Yes, fully agree.
@westwingaero
@westwingaero 7 месяцев назад
Wow, I don’t know what to think of all other RU-vidrs who tested this before and showed the Insta 360 camera coming out a stop or two better than DJI & GoPro. Did they intentionally deceive us as well or their none production units were actually better?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I really don't know what to say.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
@@drizzlemint Sure, but that doesn't matter, I get paid for most of my videos but I still stand strong and say what I think.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 месяца назад
@@PhillipSkrabaOthers get scripts, and a list of things on what to mention and what to leave out.
@HanoiCitizen
@HanoiCitizen Месяц назад
these are look a like with a little diffirent in saturation , action 4 with a bit higher saturation in red and yellow and ace pro had a bit lower normal saturation .i think DJ action 4 had image enhancement make its set in high EV.
@JoZhWorld
@JoZhWorld 7 месяцев назад
Agreed with your observations.. I am looking to upgrade my Go2.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Yes, it did a magical job when it comes to stabilisation!
@GaryTravels
@GaryTravels 6 месяцев назад
Honest review, thanks
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 месяцев назад
You’re welcome, thanks!
@petehikers6003
@petehikers6003 6 месяцев назад
I would love to see full screen video of both cams in a camera video quality comparison..
@Adventure-MTB
@Adventure-MTB 7 месяцев назад
great video what setting on action 4 i know it says 4k 25fps does that mean auto or are you in pro mode ?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
It's all on auto, I thought I'd let the cameras decide the rest to level the playing field.
@grzegorzkrajewski1095
@grzegorzkrajewski1095 7 месяцев назад
In the past, action cameras were compared during mountain bike rides or jumps to the water. Now 99% of reviewer films their dogs, garages and walks in the parks.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Yes, that's correct, nowadays few people use them for action. I think the larger screen on the Ace Pro is no doubt a positive side for vlogging.
@grzegorzkrajewski1095
@grzegorzkrajewski1095 7 месяцев назад
I think Ace360 should be compared to Osmo Pocket 3. Not for real action cameras.@@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I can do that, however, it's like comparing the Hero 12 to the Ace Pro in low light, the Pocket 3 is rolling with a 1" sensor and has a completely different field of view, it's a quite a different type of camera, but sure, I've got a load of questions about that.
@eiyt
@eiyt 7 месяцев назад
I find that the Action 4 footage looks quite bad especially with the stabilisation. Yes, in some parts, it looks brighter but this is offset by the bad image quality. The Ace Pro definitely looks better to my eyes here.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
They both have strong points. The Action 4 is brighter and sees in the dark better, the Ace Pro has better control of the stabilisation in low light. Take away the stabilisation and the Action 4 will come out on top.
@anhonestreviewer7015
@anhonestreviewer7015 Месяц назад
@@PhillipSkrabayes, but why would you want to take away the stabilisation?
@wheelxtech
@wheelxtech 7 месяцев назад
which stabilisation mode did you chose on DJI?Insta stabilises better on your video.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Hypersmooth. Yes, the Insta360 does a better job, though at the cost of extra processing having a strain on pixel quality.
@wheelxtech
@wheelxtech 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba thanx for the reply and review
@gco2075
@gco2075 Месяц назад
4:30 The low light stabilization of Ace Pro is no match to action 4 if you check the jittering of the neon light (dom) of the bog building in the background. But action 4 has more colors in post and less wide lens distortion.
@paulshanesmith
@paulshanesmith 7 месяцев назад
Very deceitful of Insta to send reviewers a different version than was going on sale.. its almost as if they knew a non replaceable lens cover would be a deal breaker for many. It is for me.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Me too, that's why I never bought the Hero 8 myself.
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 7 месяцев назад
Enough reason not to support a company with those sort of practices
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 месяцев назад
lol. I can't. Amazing AI processor, great low light, flip out screen, amazing quality... Can't replace the lens? PASS. People that are more concerned about the replaceable lens are the people who don't actually use an action camera for action sports and have never damaged a lens. @@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 7 месяцев назад
@@xundeadxempirex sorry but enough times a scratch can end up on a lens. Next to that giving reviewers a different version than the one in the shop is just not ok.
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 месяцев назад
I can agree with this thought process. However, Insta is offering free "no questions asked" lens replacement for a year after purchase of an Ace Pro. I do agree giving creators a different version is def not ok, and I do not agree with that. That does frustrate me as well when watching review videos. @@Slashingthrough
@IbbySS.
@IbbySS. 7 месяцев назад
Is it be or does the action 4 crop in low light mode? If so I wonder which has a wider field of view in their respective mode?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think so, seems like it stays the same. The Action 4 is the widest action cam of all of them, it’s silly wide.
@IbbySS.
@IbbySS. 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba it's really noticable in the daylight but hard to tell in the dark (maybe on video I guess. Maybe it's me.) Thanks for confirming!
@mgarkartun2023
@mgarkartun2023 7 месяцев назад
i like 360 insta Ace Pro 🥰
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
It's not all that bad in low light.
@mgarkartun2023
@mgarkartun2023 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba Thanks Brother 🥰
@paulshanesmith
@paulshanesmith 7 месяцев назад
It'll make a lovely paperweight after you scratch or break the lens and even if you never do you'll always be worried about it.
@DigiDriftZone
@DigiDriftZone 4 месяца назад
You can replicate the better stabilisation by manually pushing the shutter speed up on the Action 4, which will result in a similarly darker image.
@TravelwithDavid360
@TravelwithDavid360 7 месяцев назад
Shutter blur on the action 4 in a few spots , very minor though. Ace pro colours are weird in some spots .
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I agree with both comments.
@b16bkostas
@b16bkostas 7 месяцев назад
good job, the action 4 is better in very bright places and in very dark, you do not make me a favor to compare dlog-m anyway, i think action 4 have a settings that priorotise the stability over the image at low light do you have try that also?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
It does seem the Action comes out on top, and with stabe on it would look at ton better. Yeah, I forgot the DLog-M, next time. The stabe on the Ace Pro wins, hands down, the image wins on the Action 4.
@TheRealityTwister
@TheRealityTwister 3 месяца назад
So did you change your mind and like it better then the DJI Action 4? Please let me know. I need a camera to work with me doing street magic at night please film my stage show indoors in dim lighting.. please tell me what you think
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures 7 месяцев назад
Isn’t the tape the actual electronic cords going to the screen?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
That's correct. I open and close it all the time.
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba I found this on Amazon to protege lens since I know like me you don’t want to scratch it, CYNOVA Screen Protector for Insta360 Ace Pro, Ultra Clear Tempered
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Yes, saw those all over the place.
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkrabaI bought some will test it when I get my ace pro
@michaelmarcano9200
@michaelmarcano9200 7 месяцев назад
Did you need to clean the AcePro camera? If not then the lens flares are pretty bad and it almost had a smudged look to it. I'm starting to think I should stay with my Action 4!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Well, it's possible that when I film these tests I touch the lens, I try not to, but it might happen. However, being action/vlog cameras, I'm guessing if they don't get dirty then it's not very authentic, right?
@allenmyers8568
@allenmyers8568 7 месяцев назад
It looks to me like the Ace Pro has moisture inside the lens cover that is causing the picture to had a smudgy effect. Also, I'm curious as to what ISO settings you had on the cameras.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Both had very clean lenses, all was on auto. The Action 4 is in my books the winner. Turn off stabe, stick that thing on a gimbal and it's over.
@ronnyrandertjes
@ronnyrandertjes 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba can you remind me of a good gimbal?
@kickasshole
@kickasshole 7 месяцев назад
Wish you try the eis priority on dji osmo action 4
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I will have to try that out!
@yamahaevo
@yamahaevo 7 месяцев назад
Did you have smudge in the middle of the lens on insta? Why the flickering on insta?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
No smudge. Flicking - no idea, had it on auto-flicker.
@yamahaevo
@yamahaevo 7 месяцев назад
@PhillipSkraba Well you did touch the lens and I clearly can se the smudge ruined your video. Just like you touched it in the new video.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
@yamahaevo I did? Well, I guess that makes it authentic.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 месяца назад
I have seen that flickering on other Ace Pro reviews, it’s kinda funny when it happens in the middle of their paid glorification of the Ace pro.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 месяца назад
@@independentmind6345 Yeah, I think it's about the auto-flicker, it has trouble with some light sources sometimes. If I have it on 50hz it seems to work fine. Maybe the auto option needs an update.
@tonycapil1022
@tonycapil1022 5 месяцев назад
The blown highlights are killing me on the DJI. What would the image look like if it were exposed for highlights? I'm just curious on how much shadow detail would be lost. I've never owned an action camera before btw.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
These things have tiny sensors compared to your full frame mirrorless cameras, so they really have a hard time during low light. The Ace Pro does such a good job due to the A.I. in camera processing. The Action 4 does a good job, but as you see it fails in the highlights, has more noise and can't stabilise as well as the Ace Pro.
@WiljanWiljan
@WiljanWiljan 7 месяцев назад
Biggest concern is still the lack of a lens guard for the ace pro. This needs to be fixed first before i will decide any purchase.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I fully agree.
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 месяцев назад
Insta360 offering 100% free "no questions asked" lens replacement for the 1st year after purchase. I've had every iteration of Go Pro's, Action 3, 4, Insta360 X1, X2, and now the Ace Pro. In the 10+ years i've used an action cam for dirtbiking, motovlogs, skateboarding, bmx, surfing, etc, i've never once, not even close damaged a lens. {EDITED} Thank you for your response, Phillip
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
@xundeadxempirex Did you know that I’m also an Insta360 affiliate, actually longer than I’ve been a DJI affiliate. I’m just saying what I see and feel. The lens is a problem, and I’ve been gathering information, from various sources. It was meant to be a removable lens, but the test models were causing leakage, so Insta either could push back its launch many months or drop this as a fully sealed camera. I do appreciate they’re offering free lens replacement, I think that puts a lot of peoples minds at ease.
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 месяцев назад
I appreciate the calm demeanor in which you handled this. As a consumer trying to get accurate reviews, I feel there is a lot of biased reviews which is only beneficial, imho, to people who are loyal to a specific brand and don't get an accurate account of what we're looking at. I'll do best in the future to have a better outlook on how I respond@@PhillipSkraba
@WiljanWiljan
@WiljanWiljan 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba the free lens replacement is only valid for the 1st year. Next you have to ship your camera to nearest insta360 service point, which means your camera is gone for a few weeks. Also the shipping costs are for the customer. So is this a good offering? No no no.
@Coaster_Crazy
@Coaster_Crazy 5 месяцев назад
What camera was the audio captured on ??
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
Ace Pro
@Coaster_Crazy
@Coaster_Crazy 5 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba should have used the DJI as it seems to have better audio from all the reviews I’ve seen
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
@@Coaster_Crazy I'd say fairly similar, in some situations the DJI does better, in some the Ace Pro, but in general both very similar. No massive gap there in terms of audio.
@RdOZITO
@RdOZITO 7 месяцев назад
1:38 you can see the wires in the sky of OA4, but nothing in ACE PRO
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Yes, it does a pretty good job, mind you, both of them do at night. If we switch the stabe off, the Action 4 comes out on top.
@FelipeHernandez-pk1ww
@FelipeHernandez-pk1ww 7 месяцев назад
Fax. I just bought the OA4
@JosephCartertheMinkMan
@JosephCartertheMinkMan 3 месяца назад
LOL -6C is just normal winter weather. Last winter I spent an entire day hunting in -35C.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 3 месяца назад
I really loath the cold, some people like it, I just don't enjoy it unless I'm on skis.
@johnhill6794
@johnhill6794 Месяц назад
The image looks sharper, image stabilization is better, and a lot more detail in the highlights with the Ace.
@DarkFire515
@DarkFire515 7 месяцев назад
HDR from the Action 4 looks like it has a better dynamic range. Interesting video, thanks for freezing & recording this for us all!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely no problem at all, happy to bring you all these comparisons.
@droneeye2618
@droneeye2618 7 месяцев назад
Appreciate your alternative view, thanks for the refreshing non sponsored review
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
You're welcome, I'm a fan of showing people how things really look. Here you can notice a couple of things, the Action 4 is brighter, but falls apart in stabilisation, whereas the Ace Pro is a touch darker but controls stabe with A.I. technology, giving it a head start over the DJI. I'm playing more with the Ace Pro, even right now, I'm doing a time-lapse as I get ready for bed to see how all its features work.
@pinnysun8442
@pinnysun8442 7 месяцев назад
while most of the reviewer out there says that the ace pro are better, you are the first person that has the same opinion as i do, ace pro is over processed and sharpen.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I think a lot of people have that option, they just couldn't say it.
@simoz78
@simoz78 7 месяцев назад
Most people hate jitters of walking footage at night. Those are 100x worse than any overprocessed or sharpness issue.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I fully agree, drives me crazy. That is why I usually turn off EIS at night.
@pinnysun8442
@pinnysun8442 7 месяцев назад
Its not that the ace pro is bad, it has excellent out of cam quality, the down side is sometimes we want more control of our video style instead of the hdr look all the time.
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures 7 месяцев назад
Very nice video
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Thank You!
@bubunpapau
@bubunpapau 5 месяцев назад
Stabilization on ace pro is insane!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
It's pretty wild right?!
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 месяцев назад
DJI is better but jittery, AP is much smoother, hmmm... this is a hard one. But some areas, AP is better then DJI with exposure and still consistently smoother video, where as DJI is 'cleaner' but framerate is jittery so I guess which is more important both can be fix via post production. But again, look at the background detail, AP has that hands down with this camera as well, hmmmm. with the 8k being kind of goofy on this camera, do you think with the 5 nm processor and the 8k sensor that it would very be improved in future firmware upgrades? I'm curious.
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 7 месяцев назад
Manually increasing the shutter speed eliminates the jitter, but makes image stop or two darker.
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 месяцев назад
@@kaltask1 why compromise if you don't have to is all I'm saying. You make one thing better but the other is worse, if you had to do that to competing camera, it would be a negative right? It's a catch 22, increase shutter for better quality but lose light, decrease shutter for better light but lose quality.
@gin21zkato
@gin21zkato 4 месяца назад
4:54 hold this frame and compare. 1. Action 4 don't have blur fixing on stabilization 2. Action 4 add some bad digital yellow tint
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 месяца назад
Yeah, the Ace Pro does a much better job at night.
@flyzone7441
@flyzone7441 7 месяцев назад
Greetings from California the action 4 is fn great
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Yes, yes it is.
@AdamHreszczyk
@AdamHreszczyk 6 месяцев назад
But it is visible stabilization issue in lowlight on Action 4
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 месяцев назад
That's true.
@4seasonbackpacking
@4seasonbackpacking 6 месяцев назад
The low light stabilization is much better on the ace pro
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 месяцев назад
Yes, I fully agree.
@LandOverview
@LandOverview 4 месяца назад
Myself, I went for Action 4, as for low light I still carry the Pocket 3 as it does better in low light even at 60fps than Ace Pro does at 25fps and if you pan too fast at 25fps you get nasty blur which I hate. So in my opinion Action cams with low frame rate, I don't class as action cams any more, especially as their stabilization goes out the window anyway and in the case of Ace Pro, although its stability may be slightly better it is at expense of picture quality and blurring in the darker regions, good for daytime only, still, unfortunately.
@user-hb8um9po3l
@user-hb8um9po3l 3 месяца назад
Which cam will be the Best to vlogging my truck driving job?
@LandOverview
@LandOverview 3 месяца назад
@@user-hb8um9po3l If you don't already have the action 4 which is cheaper than maybe the ace pro if it's just a choice between the two?
@agatachinalska6377
@agatachinalska6377 7 месяцев назад
Philip, as always, in good shape... but maybe you could run a little :D it always increases the viewership :P Will he have a heart attack or not :D When I'm walking along Piotrkowska Street, I always look around to see if there's a crazy guy with a camera running on OFF :) My first GoPro is Hero4 Black, the second one is Hero10 and the higher one will be... Insta360 Ace Pro 2 (if it turns out, because if I need it, GoPro 10 will be enough :) I'm already excited about DJI Action 4, and here's the twist...
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
The Hero series and Action series are fantastic action cameras, but I wouldn't pigeon hole the Ace Pro as an action camera, but rather a vlogging camera, and viewing it that way I'm a lot more at ease using it.
@mirroreffectchannel
@mirroreffectchannel 6 месяцев назад
Some say turn off low light some say turn it on am confused
@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes
@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video. The ace pro is my choice. Much less wobble in the night image. I wonder how the image would. Look at night without the special mode. Like a 60 ffps mode.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Well, if we turn stabe off on both cameras, the extra low light brightness on the Action 4 would win. I've never tried at 60fps, but I might give it a go.
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 7 месяцев назад
At least some clips I saw they where quite dark, but no noise in the image. It was as dark as hero 12, which had really noisy image.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
The Hero 12 doesn't hold up too well in comparison to these two.
@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes
@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the response. For me the image stabilizer is essential. I would then use the pocket 2 or 3 for lower light but field of view is less on those. I had the action 4 for a few weeks and made many indoor videos with it and the action 3 at the same time. The action 3 was darker but did not show the same stabilization wobbling, so I used the action 3 footage. I think the Ace Pro will do what I need and bridge the gap more between low light and using a pocket 2. Thanks for all your videos i enjoy them.@@PhillipSkraba
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 7 месяцев назад
@@OrlandoKissimmeeHomes manually setting higher shutter speed on action 3 or 4 will fix the stabilization. More frames to process the information.
@Hfdsyi0pnvcx
@Hfdsyi0pnvcx 7 месяцев назад
Привет🖐. У тебя лучшие обзоры.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Thank You!
@f.frknkocaaslan4440
@f.frknkocaaslan4440 7 месяцев назад
I bought dji osmo action 4 recently:( should i get refund and buy ace pro for leica ? Is it worth?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
My gosh no! This has nothing to do with Leica!
@f.frknkocaaslan4440
@f.frknkocaaslan4440 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba oh, thanks i'm relieved🙏😁
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 месяца назад
@@f.frknkocaaslan4440yeah that was a shameless name drop by insta360 lol
@travel_like_me
@travel_like_me 7 месяцев назад
A very good test, thank you. I was also considering buying the camera, even though I already have the Action 4 and Pocket 3. But I don't see any advantages here, but a lot of disadvantages compared to the Action 4. And in poor lighting, the Insta will probably clearly lose out to the Pocket 3.
@tonywang9264
@tonywang9264 7 месяцев назад
Hmmm, the Ace Pro has a better stablization and HDR.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
It does have better stabilisation at night by darkening the image, and it has hdr, whereas the Action 4 opted for wider dynamic range, which I prefer.
@alinflorindumitru6565
@alinflorindumitru6565 6 месяцев назад
the lamps at 2.08 tels evrithing .
@alterculture
@alterculture 4 месяца назад
Why are you shooting in PureShot instead of the new low light mode called PureVideo that is only on the ACE Pro??? Came here trying to see how the low light modes compare, but you used the wrong mode! no?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 месяца назад
No, I just messed up and called it PureShot instead of PureVideo. In this instance, I'd roll my eyes and say "potayto, potahto". I am using the PureVideo mode.
@gaiusmarquez6344
@gaiusmarquez6344 7 месяцев назад
To be honest, i don’t always use the low light image enhancement on OA4. I think it’s better natural looking when you prioritize EIS in shooting lowlight and just custom set the sharpness and noise red.. that’s just my impression.. 🫶🏻👌🏻💯
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, I think so too, but here I wanted to level the playing field and see which camera actually looks better, and it's not easy as one is brighter, one has better stabe. If you were to turn the stabe off though, which I do a lot at night, the Action 4 is the King of low light.
@gaiusmarquez6344
@gaiusmarquez6344 7 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkraba precisely! And the over-sharpening(due to AI) happening in Ace Pro is just not good looking though!
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 месяца назад
DJI Looks way better! Nice!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 месяца назад
Well, both look pretty good, the Ace Pro seems to hold the jitters a lot better, but it is running on A.I.
@independentmind6345
@independentmind6345 4 месяца назад
It will depend on your settings and how much light the sensor allows. you can use the included night time glassless lens that come with the dji, giving you more fstops.@@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 месяца назад
Yeah, throughout all my tests, it's almost impossible to beat the Ace Pro in low light, unless you have a gimbal.
@alyiga
@alyiga 7 месяцев назад
Looks like the Ace PRO is doing better overall but the Action 4 is still a solid contender. Great review
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
They have their good and bad moments. I think if we were to turn stabe off on both, the Action 4 would come out on top. I might need to test that out.
@grahamjones7070
@grahamjones7070 7 месяцев назад
I think the Action 4 was a lot better. Especially the lit up car,there was a significant difference. It looks nice and quiet around there but does look cold. Nice review 👍
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 месяцев назад
@@grahamjones7070 ? 4:35 on Zoom in the background where the mini van is on the left, vehicles are more defined on Ace Pro, also, look at the hanging christmas lights on the light poles, they are also more defined, both colors are off imo, DJI is over saturated and Ace is under saturated but I'm a detail person, I can alway fix color post edit.
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 месяцев назад
@@grahamjones7070 5:06 when he pans up to the light bulbs, yes we have lens flare but you can see the detail of the light bulb area on the Ace. hmmmm the detail is better on the Ace but it is undersaturated.
@grahamjones7070
@grahamjones7070 7 месяцев назад
@@MiyagisRant I suppose our vision varies from person to person,I'm actually colour blind so i wouldn't argue with anyone else's opinions. But for me the Action 4 looks better.
@aidenandrowan
@aidenandrowan 7 месяцев назад
Great video. I'm really struggling with DJI A4 results when compared to my GoPro10. Perhaps that's just a reflection that I've been using gopro cameras for such a long time and I know them back to front! I just turn on my gopro and film... it always works! Problems I hate about my gopro are over heating (fecking nightmare... hold in the start button for 10 seconds to reset!) and shimmering (aliasing) in many scenarios. Despite your negativity (and they are much appreciated!) I far (by a long way) prefer the images you are getting from the Ace Pro.
@General.Audience
@General.Audience 5 месяцев назад
Aren't you supposed to be on pure video on the ace pro? On other reviews, I've seen the Ace pro beat out the action 4 in low light.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
Yes, Pure Video. It did beat it here, right?
@General.Audience
@General.Audience 5 месяцев назад
@@PhillipSkrabaI think the Action 4 looks better in low light more times then the Ace pro
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
Yeah? That is odd.
@itsmattyboom
@itsmattyboom 4 месяца назад
That "wiggle" on the DJI is horrible! Ace Pro all day! And I'm a DJI owner. But this sold me on my next vlogging camera.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 4 месяца назад
The Ace Pro is by far the best vlog camera I've used, really loving it for vlogging. 2 months later video vlog coming soon.
@EspenJohan
@EspenJohan 7 месяцев назад
An incredible number of people say that the Insta360 ace pro is absolutely king in low light. Yes, it seems that the ace pro has slightly better stabilization. But the picture quality is more or less exactly the same. Shame on those who had the camera before it was released, must be allowed to say that they lied. I will get my ace pro in a few days. If this is what I get. Then it will be returned after some tests
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
What I do at night is turn stabe off, as I just don't run at night lol, so with it off I'm pretty sure the Action 4 is still the King of low light. I'll do another video testing that out.
@danymaggiolo
@danymaggiolo 7 месяцев назад
So.. Action 4 with a gimbal is better than Ace Pro? @@PhillipSkraba
@MAURITS_BIKE-HIKE
@MAURITS_BIKE-HIKE 7 месяцев назад
Nice one Espen. It is really difficult this year. Also you can bet that all companies will make better cameras next year after what Insta360 came up with.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Hell yes.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I'm sure GoPro is hard at work to make their next camera THE camera.
@antonijakubiak
@antonijakubiak 6 месяцев назад
Cześć, Jak dla mnie Ace Pro ma lepszą stabilizację. Action 4 więcej widzi gdy mocno brakuje światła.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 месяцев назад
Zgadza sie.
@user-hb8um9po3l
@user-hb8um9po3l 3 месяца назад
Polak
@Verbisdeturi
@Verbisdeturi 5 месяцев назад
Oh my....! The stabilization on the Action 4 is way worse than the Insta360 Ace Pro. For each footstep we can see the lights trembling....either walking or running. The colours are more natural in Action 4 though.
@ijs_diy
@ijs_diy 7 месяцев назад
Dji osmo action 4 looks a better choice for a action camera.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
For an action camera, I'd probably have to agree, for vlogging I'd go with the Ace Pro.
@Kildzr
@Kildzr 5 месяцев назад
Your image quality look way different from everything I've seen comparing these cameras on the Ace Pro. Dark, very little detail, soft, etc. It doesn't help that the Ace Pro looks like it has a smudge or condensation on the lense. Instead of having the same settings on each camera, how about the best settings FOR EACH camera. That would make more sense. BTW, the stablization is terrible on the Action 4, in this test.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
Well, in low light the Ace Pro wins, I’ve not found anything that beats it yet, and I’d say it’s on par with the Pocket 3, but that has a gimbal.
@megapixelmicron6360
@megapixelmicron6360 3 месяца назад
are you paid by DJI or what ? ace pro less detail ? check 1:15 lightings in the building.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 3 месяца назад
Nah, I’m not paid by DJI, I know who is though 😂
@bevolkisch4628
@bevolkisch4628 7 месяцев назад
the background lights were very shakey even when you were just walking on the dji action 4, but seemed flawless even when joggin on the ace pro.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
That’s true, yes.
@droneeye2618
@droneeye2618 7 месяцев назад
I hate to say it because I really have hated the hype for the Ace Pro, but as far as image is concerned, the colours look beautifully graded straight out of camera on RU-vid to me, its possibly over sharpened, but hard to tell on RU-vid. In this videos the Ace Pro looks more like a larger camera image to me than the Action 4 image. Look at the street light at the end on both cameras (6:33), lights just seem to be flaring on the Action 4 but the Ace Pro sees detail in the bright lights?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I'm right there with you. It's not always easy to say, hey, I was wrong, but I was and I wasn't 😂 The Ace Pro is not a GoPro killer, I'm standing strong on that, it is also not the King of Action. The Ace Pro is by far the best vlogging camera I have ever used, and so IF Insta360 were to label it The Vlog King, I'd be right there egging them on, however, I think all the confusion and bad blood came about when they labelled and marketed it wrongly causing hype of the wrong nature. The Ace Pro, after using it for a few days, and looking at it in a completely different mindset, as a vlog camera, is so far excellent.
@HeroVange
@HeroVange 7 месяцев назад
Ayo the ace pro is better BUT by how much? Is it worth the trade for your peace of mind that if you scratch the lens, you can just buy a replacement? Is it worth the peace of mind you get knowing that the tape to make your screen work isn't exposed? I hope next year they come out with ace pro 2 with changeable lens cover, no flip screen, just dual screens like the dji action 4 and the go pro 12, 10 bit. OR dji action 5 with an AI chip. Even with that statement, i know i want more improvements for the ace pro vs the dji, i just want the same improved low light (and maybe the ai warp... it's fun and if you can apply it to photos too, that would be HILARIOUS)
@Tier1L1fe
@Tier1L1fe 5 месяцев назад
Ace Pro looks like it's on a gimbal the Dji looks jittery
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
Yes, that's true.
@Cameraflyer-
@Cameraflyer- 7 месяцев назад
The Action 4 looks better but the stabilization goes to hell in low light.
@RdOZITO
@RdOZITO 7 месяцев назад
just limit the shutter speed of OA4 to 1/100 or quicker, stabilization will performances perfect
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
That’s true.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
It does help, yes!
@MiyagisRant
@MiyagisRant 7 месяцев назад
From 5:57 on with the darker area, do you not find the DJI over saturated? doesn't look natural to me, and also, look closely behind you, the background the jittering and blurring on the DJI is bad, it's actually giving me a headache, I'll say AP is the winner overall. Great review, thank you, this camera isn't as bad as you think is it? lol
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 месяцев назад
Unusable footage, imo. I would never use that footage in any situation. Its jittery literally the whole video except in higher lit areas.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
@xundeadxempirex I do agree with you about the jitter, it’s like listening to bad audio, however we can always turn off EIS and have a super bright image on the Action. I do have to admit though, the Insta did win all the low light tests which totally surprised me.
@xundeadxempirex
@xundeadxempirex 7 месяцев назад
Again, a great response to a rattled viewer. Thank you for your honest, and calm feedback@@PhillipSkraba
@bigstreetguns6619
@bigstreetguns6619 7 месяцев назад
Stabe better on insta, but color science is way worse. It looks soooo artificial.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Fully agree.
@vladgingu
@vladgingu 6 месяцев назад
The lens look dirty
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 месяцев назад
You like that huh?
@TacBlades
@TacBlades 7 месяцев назад
Insta is more hype than camera, people just buy hype without really thinking critically. With any product i look for the fault and problems before any positives.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I’ve had a few days playing with the Ace Pro with my family, and sure, it was hyped to be a GoPro killer, the King of Action, but it’s not. It appeals to a much larger audience, to me, it’s a vlogging camera, a camera for people who don’t care about action sports, about 10-bit, Log footage etc, it’s for those that want camera to social media without a complicated workflow. That’s how my conclusion, and I’m on board with that mindset.
@wargor
@wargor 7 месяцев назад
It's sp clear that you are bias to DJI.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Well yes, because it’s the better camera, that’s pretty obvious. However Insta360 have done a good job with stabe at night, but that’s not enough to make a good action camera, it’s missing so much and has so many design flaws for an action camera.
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 7 месяцев назад
Nothing of what he said was biased.
@StephenGolding
@StephenGolding 7 месяцев назад
Action 4 looks so much better in low light. Despite the hype around the insta.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
I feel the same.
@kir11
@kir11 6 месяцев назад
AcePro is a winner in most scenarios. Dynamic range, zoom, low light and stabilisation without motion blur are much better on insta 360. But not ideal, 06:42..
@robcorrellphotography7213
@robcorrellphotography7213 6 месяцев назад
I agree that DJI has the brighter natural colors, but the insta 360 stabilization is much better and that is what’s important to me.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 6 месяцев назад
Yes, the Ace Pro kills it when it comes to stabe.
@xenay911
@xenay911 7 месяцев назад
Please wear at least some fingerless gloves 😅 don’t freeze your fingers off! (Coming from someone with Raynaud’s Syndrome)
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Oh my G, my fingers are so frozen!
@geodrone7643
@geodrone7643 5 месяцев назад
Action 4 is unusable in almost all your footage, the background is crazy.... Insta is wayyy better as i can see....
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 5 месяцев назад
The Insta360 does hold its own here, yes.
@petrub27
@petrub27 7 месяцев назад
Useless test. Those cameras are not for low light
@TomCaptures
@TomCaptures 7 месяцев назад
Both have been marketed with the mention of improved low light performance, how is this useless to test claims the brands are making to sell their cameras?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
Lol, I FULLY agree with you. I’m just bringing you guys THE test you wanted.
@westwingaero
@westwingaero 7 месяцев назад
Useless comment, many people want to actually see how well they perform in low light as action cameras
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 7 месяцев назад
That's true, people are wild about low light capabilities.
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