Is This Aaron Gwin's Tubeless Secret? Ghetto Tubular 

And then you realise you put your tyre on backwards

I've seen the 20'' tube hack before, but the contact cement is quite genius, DIY tubular!

8:33 Whoever has done this CONGRATULATIONS!!! You have now turned your different brand tires into schwalbe tires!!!

Best tip I can give for tyre mounting is to use a water based lubricant intended for the sexy times... It evaporates out easily and leaves very little residue while being extremely slippery initially, it's cheap as chips at your local convenience store or supermarket ;-)

How do you get if off again?

id do this but i have tan wall table tops. and aesthetics > air retention

Its so awesome to see how far you have come over the years Ali. I remember hearing about you being a "good" local rider from friends back in the early 2000s, and then rediscovered you recently after getting back into riding. Seeing you and Chris Akrigg ride makes me proud to be from West Yorkshire :)

This is how I actually converted my friend's bike to tubeless for the first time! We used 26" tubes tho worked good enough on the 27.5! And yeah the conti logo just got replaced and covered by a schwalbe tube lol

Pretty cool idea! I personally would try to trim off a little bit of the excess tube for a cleaner look. I agree with others, I love the idea of a tubular meets clincher hybrid. Would eliminate the need to tape rims, while still having all the benefits of tubeless.

I've never tried tubeless although I've been thinking about it for a year or two now especially after seeing your first tubeless setup! Brilliant idea and possibly the future of tires! Knowing myself it will be ages before I actually try this but I'll post something when I do.

Prestretch your extra tight tires by mounting the tire with a tube 1st. You can put your tires in a hot place like inside a car on a hot day or toss 'em on a hot roof. Let thermal expansion do its thing. It really works!! Now try to mount it on the split tube with a bit of soapy water if necessary. ALWAYS inflate and seat the beads without sealant. If it holds air for 15 minutes, it's probably a reliable set up. Ive been using these set ups for 20 years, but I just cut off the excess tube. No gluing. I never ever get flats, I never knock on wood. I do huge back country rides far from help or cell service. Only failure I've had is ripped tires. Its the Best tubeless going for long distance trails and touring. I also do it on 'cross and gravel tires. Its well worth the extra effort!

Going to try this in CX! Just cut the remaining flap shorter, tight to the bead. Thanks, great suggestion was using thin latex liners with normal latex sealant but this is way more sturdy for the big, off-camber hits that result on burps. One more idea - maybe use your old patch kit glue tubes for this :)

This is basically that thing enve did with the rubber liner in the rim, the idea was even if you break the rim it will hold air because of the rubber liner.

DUDE! this is awesome! Totally not a failure like you had worried. Love this, very original

I can categorically confirm gwinn never used this system but it's a nice story .it was tried by a few mechanic's Inc myself. The tight tyre fit can be fixed by putting the whole rim inside the tyre and then fitting the tyre over the rim one side at a time instead of trying to get one rim side over first .I'll try do a video to show want a mean one day next week . Good work though

Hey Ali, new to your channel. Enjoying the vids, keep up the good work. Recently just bought a brand new Bike and really starting to get back into riding after a 5 year hiatus and watching yourself, Duncan, Danny and your mates has got me amped to get back to my best. Feel free to give me a shout if you are ever in Edinburgh. I built a Portable kicker for street riding and very keen to learn some trials. Will be hitting up transgression or whatever its called now a fair bit because of the weather. keep doing what you're doing man

That is a brilliant tip with the rubber cement! I have been running ghetto tubeless on my fatbike for years but this is would be great to keep it from burping.

Always like a good tutorial. Thanks. Idea 5,294 to add to my list of things I would love to but will probably never do.

Genius! yeah that should do it. I went back to ghetto setup after having multiple burps. The last burp threw me at the exposure. Luckily there were bushes and trees to catch me tumbling. Although the current Ghetto setup works just fine, I'll try your glue method for the added lower side wall protection.

Yes. Any Enduro riding plans in the near future. Would like to see. Cheers mate. Nice Video.

I like you because you replay all comments that people wrought

Brilliant Ali!! Absolutely brilliant I got to give you that one!!

Looks like genius idea! If you want too ride more in Scotland head east I am out almost every day for a hour before dark & have ridden my trails every day apart from 2 days last week when they were under water from river flood, but they dry out real quick due too sandy soil!

That effectivelly makes you a tubular tire.

Can't wait to get some merch

Ali Clarkson, stretch your new tires out over night with an over inflated tube before you fit them. It's the magic sauce to getting the new tires on!

Thanks Ali I'm going to try this on my bike

I've successfully done this with a set of Rabbit Hole rims and Knard tyres in case anyone out there is wondering if it works. I used a rimstrip instead of tape, and didn't use vulcanising glue but trimmed the tube almost flush with the rim. I haven't had any issues but haven't been running super low pressures. You could also trim the tube a bit before gluing it to the tyre to make it a little more neat

Wow, Ali C with the clickbait tile! Is this what we have come to? 😝 LOL, just kidding. Cool idea, and apparently very effective as well. These tech videos are cool, you seem to be thinking a lot about how to make the best of your equipment.

Hey Ali, you need to get #cathrovision setup on these. He's always getting flats. Thanks again on the shirt + poster. They're awesome!

Nice one! Like the logo on the t shirt too.

Your content is quality mate

I just did this to my bike, thanks to the tip! I enjoy your videos 🔝

Might give this a try on my old 26'er. So tired of replacing tubes but I'm not going to invest in true tubeless wheels/ tires on an old bike.

Can you put the tire on the rim before you fold the inner tube back over the rim on one side? I know that would be fiddly as well but might be easier?

Bear in mind that the inner tube layer is compressible and this can be of help while mounting the tire, one more reason to apply the proper, enhanced technique which is proven to work: pull the tire as to push the beads in the rims groove'/channel while also pulling radially on the tire, making the tire eccentric to the rim. Start with the opposite side to the valve and end up on the valve; pull the tire as to have it STRETCHED and therefore pressing on the cut tube because of that stretch it has. You need to work in stages, pull away the tire from the rim and also pull the tire upwards towards the valve. That is if you have the valve at the top. You may push with your feet (mind the spokes though) on the rim to keep it on the floor as the tire is pulling the rim upwards because you are pulling the tire as to help with that temporary eccentricity as you work your way towards the valve in maybe more than one cycle. INSIST and have more than one go in helping the tire be stretched all around the rim, from the opposite side of the valve and onwards, not have it stretched just near the valve. That is because the friction keeps the tire from moving (for the eccentricity between the tire and the rim) as to have it pressing as hard as possible on the interface at the opposite side from the valve.

No problem about the late video.At least we got one for this week.I would recommend, when it is not rainy, to go out and film some gopro lines in order to have a video to post in similar days.(Sorry about the english)

On the upside, Ali’s forearms are substantially stronger now. 💪🏻🍻🤙🏻

Hey Ali Clarkson! Wow! Great idea! You have effectively made a non glue on tubular tire like road bikes but with beads to hold the tire to the rim! I guess you use bigger than 20 inch tubes for the bigger wheel sizes? Ride ride ride!

So the old fashioned tubular tyre gets a rebirth but many times fatter! A neat solution and a little less messy than playing with tub glue.

Ingenious. Definitely will try.

Very nice/interesting video. Did you ever test the specialized epic evo (120/100 with brain) or the last Orbea Oiz TR 2019 (120/120)?

Congratulations, you made your own tubular tyre. XD

So now you're using a tube and sealant, pretty pointless as one of the main advantages of tubeless is weight saving.

My only question is that if i used this system,how will i tune my spoke if i needed to?

gonna try this on my urban assault gravel bike! getting flats in the winter is no fun.

Thank you man big help

What rims are those? They kinda look like the Santa Cruz Reserve rims, but they don’t have the red bit by the valve.

Continental tires are known for being almost impossible to fit. Even without the extra tube

I would've thought there would be a layer of glue inside, between the rim tape and tube, as well. For extra adhesion against rolling off entirely. Same reason road racers use tubulars if the tires lose air, the tire is still glued on.

Does the BMX tube come with removable valve core?

I run my fatbike ghetto tubeless but don't glue them down. Can run the pressures mega low with no issues.. then again the tyres are nearly 5 inch wide 😉

Great video

great idea, I just prefer that little more pressure, no burping problems.

What an awesome idea! Perfect for trials👌

what inner tube will i need for 650b wheel?

Maybe i replace my ghetto kushcore that is soaking sealant like crazy with this... thanks for the tips! funny thing: i just came across your channel, i remember you from around 2009 or so, when tgs trials was in all its glory. And you were working for tartybikes(are you still there?). I feel like watching damon watson, tunnicliffe ,swindlehurst etc etc videos again. Cheers!

Hi Ali - what size of inner tube would work with a standard 26inch fat bike wheel? Just concerned it wouldn't even make it past the edge of the rim!

what size tire/rim does that 20" inner tube work with? if i use a 27.5" rim/tire, do i get a 1 size smaller inner tube or do i still use a 20" inner tube so it stays tight?

love it thank you

That is some seriously labor intensive stuff. I'd dread getting a sidewall cut.

Fantastic idea!

Why not just run sealant in the normally installed inner tube?

Do you think you can now remove the tire+tube as a whole? Maybe even stitch both together and really create a tubular dh tire?

have you try'd putting the glue on the bead before seating the tire and then seating the beads so you don't have the excess showing and you could just trim it off

I used dishwashing soap and easier to get it on and tires hard like glue, so you need new soap to take it of. But it dries the tires so i stopped and to hard getting it off.

found that intresting al maybe you could pull the innertube down on one side while you fit tyre theen push tyre across and pull innertube back up on rim edge?

Be safe with the storm and cold. Great idea and video. Thank for sharing, i will use it with my mud setup and on my fatbike as well. Do you think a 24" tube would be better for 29"?

Nice idea, but i feel that Procore offers the same benefit with less weight and work.

Ali is the new seth bike hacks!

What kids of of glue do I use what's the name of it?

Can i do that on a 20" bmx ?

Did you try to heat the new tire ?

@Ali Clarkson does this add a lot of weight to a trail bike?

Hi, any plans for a pre-XMas video? Wow you have almost reached 60K subscribers, that was your wish if I recall hearing previously. Seems like it is happening for you. Al the best.

Does it work with any size wheel?

I'm sorry one more question: if I have 26" tire what size intertube do I need to use?

Maybe you should mount the new tyre without the tube for a day or two at max pressure to loosen it up.

I wonder if this would work with a 20” rim. Tempted to try.

Clever idea though

How hard is it, to get the Tire off the rim with that System?

Hey Ali what do you use to mount your GoPro on your helmet? Thanks Lachlan

Did anyone else notice that it went from a continental to a schwable

Cool trick Thumbs up!!!

Look amazing Nice job even

Music vaguely reminds me of Mastering the Art of Trials

I love the idea too I was thinking : Why you don't use tube and sealant combo (sealant inside a tube)? Hey it s heavy bla bla...

Wooaaa that look soo nice !! Do you think I can use this for trial bike ?

but what if the spoke broke?

You are a genius🤯

homemade tubulars, love it

maybe you should heat the tire a bit with strong hair dryer or heatgun on low.

wth this is so genius

Why not use thin inner tube with sealant inside?

Yes I experiencing tire burping with WTB rim...but I only do trail...ghetto system is absolutely good for racing! I know about ghetto before from fat bike thing when fat bike tubeless wheel is non-exist. But using glue is nice addition absolutely for race day it is a must. Can it just using very thin isolate tape? Like flexible HVAC tape... Can not imagine how difficult to mount ghetto system using this day mtb tubeless rim and tyre... absolutely pain in the ass...

What size wheel did you use for this?

So essentially you’ve created an inner tube with a bead and profile 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Homemade tubular tyres?

This will make your wheel heavier than inner tube + tire. Why not go with thicker sidewalls instead, or combine the tire insert with the tube? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this just recreated the tubular tire without the benefit (or hassle) of gluing the tire to the rim. If this can work, then you could just as easily use a regular sized inner tube (glued inside the tire) to make a tubular, and then simply mount it to the rim.