Isiah Thomas gets booed by the First Take crowd for his Bulls-Pistons take 

If Harden makes every shot he ever takes he'd have 100 pt games every time

@@Yoaneemmanuel He shoots 50% and gets 60pts. If he shot 100% he'd get 120. This shows just how great of an offense he is. No5 hatin

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He didn’t say that

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Right,and I can't stand to watch it.

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Hugging kissing exchanging jerseys social media beef smh

Jordantards don't wanna hear the truth..

@@kenrickeason go cry buddy

You proved his point

lol yeah sure, dumars rodman laimbeer and so on "not great"

@@alpha-cf2oi Jordan team was bad, not the pistons....

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Without disclosing too many details, that's what we need in this world.....Lavar

Isiah Thomas was raised and Lived in Chicago

Sports 311 bad boys made Jordan as great as he became. He had to become the GOAT to get passed the bad boys, Bird, and magic.

I truly missed the east rivalries in the 80s and 90s. Pistons vs Celtics, Bulls vs Pistons, Bulls vs NY, NY vs Pacers etc. I mean they were beatin each other physically and mentally.

Isiah and Jordan are going to be 70 years old still hating each other. They’ll never let it go

Zmilla True

More like dirty On The Pistons part But they got it done, went to 3 straight NBA Finals and Won 2 back to back.

Nick It’s not a fact. It’s a technicality. Sure he didn’t have another top 50 all time but he had 2 most likely top 70 guys in Joe Dumars and Rodman. Jordan didn’t have that. Come on now.

Stash Fronz it’s a fact that he beat him in the playoffs lmao and that he didn’t have a top 50 player

Nick okay but you and him are drawing a dumb line to make him appear like he was the only guy on that squad. Dumars and Rodman could easily be #51 and #52 on lists and arguably in the top #50 themselves

@@stanleyfronczakjr9835 Laimbeer was nothing to scoff at either haha

@@nick6956 He had Mark Aguirre, Bill Laimbeer, Rich Mahorn, Rodman, and Dumars. Stop the nonsense.

Its like a minimum wage worker telling Elon Musk how to make money

@Ивайло Маринов not on this one my dude, and I'm Chi City 6x champ Jordan for life guy. Max is playing for the local crowd.

Siddharth Mouli on a THURSDAY🤣🤣

Oh ENOUGH of this stale copycat comment already!

@@KevyB. SAS remixed it today by breaking it up into 2 verses, clearly not the same.

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Facts. He’s a real dude. He will hold that hatred for the bulls till he dies

playaflyJOE27 I kind of feel bad. MJ is chillin cuz he knows they were better when they got Scottie.

El Dio I grew up a bulls fan and watched the pistons kick the snot out of us.

His hatred stems from the fact that he’s from Chicago and Chicago will never love him like they love Mike

@@powderedtoastfacekillah734 This is the REAL reason why Zeke hated the bull & MJ. He was jealous of MJ, not only for being the best NBA player in the NBA from 1991 and on but he owned Chicago forever. Zeke wanted to be in MJ's shoes for this reason only. If zeke had a choice of being the best player in the NBA by leading detroit to several championships or doing it in Chicago twice like he did it in detroit, he would choose Chicago.

The crowd did actually give him respect bud.

He has shown himself to NOT be a “class act”….just an “act”

Why? He should welcome the boo's. They dubbed themselves the "Bad Boys" and now the want cheers? They didn't mind the boo's back when they was winning, hurting people and being a-holes.

he gives jordan no respect. Respect is earned he hasnt earned it

Kyle 💀💀💀

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Kyle nah it’s Max “When it maters the most “ Kellerman

@@Yoaneemmanuel With the chips on the line lol

Oh ENOUGH of this stale copycat comment already!

right

*How should I say Kawhi has the best shot of being the GOAT today?*

We Pistons fans we dont like the Bulls what'd they expect?

He hates on mike lowkey all the time

Justin Scott everybody acts like Jordan dominated every single season when he played and that’s not the case at all

Nike281 Astro fam they HATED JORDAN. IT and magic for sure. MJ after his 2 year was CLEARLY THE best in the league he just didn’t have the team but everybody knew it was MJ league they just didn’t want to admit. Only one that kept it real was Bird he peeped it early and tried to tell magic “its over for us” MJ INDIVIDUALLY was the best way before he started winning tho

@@justinscott4357 over for us? Haha Jordan never beat Bird so you can throw that comment in the bin. Jordan couldn't get outta the first round in the 80s be quiet.

Kawhi is a better individual player then Giannis

Exactly, sick of this ignorant narrative. Give Kawhi his due but don't get it twisted. You even see what you (DJ) are saying about Kawhi running him into the bigs in the lowlights they are showing while Max is talking.

Also Giannis teammates wasn’t hitting shots like they had been doing

@@LESHANNONSHARPE nobody is arguing who's the better player. If we are, then let me bring up Michael Jordan.

@@RariShiesty yeah the Bucks had the lead on a couple of those games and could've won the series honestly. But the Bucks didn't adjust when Giannis wasn't producing. For me I blame the coaching. Budenholzer didn't adjust in the Celtics series after losing game 1, and the Bucks won 4 straight after that. So I'm guessing that's why the Bucks didnt adjust in the Toronto series.

Lebron should be in a different category

Lebron is prob best in playoffs but giannis is only getting better and lebron is almost 40.

@@zType2 He's 5 years from 40

this is literally the show they change their mind every week half time it's nonsense but still class

Max change his mind in two seconds not half a season

Rewatch the games and check the stats 1 on 1 Giannis was bad.

@@AristotelK not saying that this was the case but those stats aren't entirely reliable. Kawhi may have played good defense, but Giannis may have been "bad" as you said possibly due to being worn down by the moments in the game when he's facing the whole Raptors team.

@@AristotelK they sat sat pascale and lopez on the elbows, waiting to double and bring pressure to giannis any time he drove it was a team effort

So we not gonna about how kawhi was getting doubled by Milwaukee every time he touched the ball

Harley Inglis Kawhi had teammates producing as well, bucks role players were missing open shots

Kemuel Sanchez 😂😂😂😂😂

Bruh 😂

That bulls team got a threepeat, the pistons didn't, therefore he's wrong.

He still salty lol

lmao. enjoy your "head-to-head" championship Zeke.

@@guilhermevieira6010 if it wasn't for a bs foul in '88, they would of had a threepeat

@@da_jeezuss8922 if it wasn't for mj retirement the bulls would 5peat

The Pistons were THAT DEAL!!!!! People can hate all they want, smh!!!!! They're only doing that because its not LA, Miami, etc etc... Detroit is the city people love to hate, smh. I'm from the Eastside of Detroit too, lol much love 💪💪💪

@YoungFree what??! ...stop hating! Yeah I guess with about 20 "star" players on one team I'd win multiple championships too, smh. Thats not impressive. L.A.did the same thing with buying up all the heavy names, so did Miami, Houston, etc etc. NOT IMPRESSED. Like I said people always hating on Detroit and you just proved my point, smh... most importantly, both Chicago and Detroit have fallen off from being top tier and in the same boat at the bottom of the NBA. Again, I'm talking about the Pistons during THAT time, they were the DEAL...bye

@YoungFree ...man get lost!! Back at ya

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you mean you remember them physically trying to kill the Bulls, let's keep it real.

Or both 😂💀

Curry is regarded as best shooter of all time. If curry played in the 90s with zeke and Gary Payton and others we wouldn't even know curry's name .

The JORDAN RULES will do that to a player lol

Underrated?...nope..."beast"...yup.... but he threw that all away with his lack of class not shaking hands when his team got whooped. He has/will try to detract from that for life....but it will still be there when he and us are loooooong gone.

"Mr. Thomas". Otherwise, yes, your comment is spot on......

@@milolee4746 Please! If you're not going to hold Larry Bird to the same criticism for doing the exact same thing to the Pistons. He snubbed us, the Pistons snubbed Mike... that's how the mantle was passed in the east.... CLOWN!!!

@@TeamTuc i didn't have a problem when bird walked off. Didnt have a problem when zeke did or bron either. Losing at that level, it can be hard to keep your cool.

@@eyeconqueror1185 I concur

Perry Ellis it’s doesn’t matter, every team has its era. I can say Bulls dominated the Pistons “91 and on.

.. Lakers too

"Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen" - Michael Jordan

But he has a bunch of thugs body slamming players all over the court. They may not be top 50 player, but if you say that didn't contribute on the bad boys success then you're blind af.

Pippen score 9 pointsper game was the second scorer behind some dude call sam vicent ho had 10 ppg his first 4 seasons , the moment he score 20 points chicago sweep them , thats a fact

Noah Shreve by your logic everyone who has ever faced jordan and lost to him shouldn’t be taken as seriously either when it comes to this subject because they faced him. Yeah no

Noah Shreve so just because he has a different opinion on Jordan that means he is bias? It’s his opinion. Just like saying Jordan is the greatest of all time, it’s still an opinion...not a fact.

IT has a point. You don’t get to a 72-10 records with a bunch of bums on your team.

ButImNotAReviewer u could argue if look at that bulls team with today’s eyes 👀 as super team. Jordan, pippen, Rodman, kukoc, Ron Harper

@@TonyStarks1986 It's almost like Jordan was the reason why Isiah was left out of the dream team and Isiah freezed out Jordan during his 1st all star game. And the Bulls and Pistons hated each other. They both have a history, don't be stupid..

Alright that last emoji was clearly not for this comment

Le Nguyen Max a boxing guy...no more

Coury Landers should be 3 but lakers got a gift lol

tearsoverbeers It’s a technicality. Sure he didn’t have another top 50 all time but he had 2 most likely top 70 guys in Joe Dumars and Rodman. And a former NBA rebound leader Bill Laimbeer. Jordan didn’t have that. Come on now.

Well he played with 3 other HOF's the only team who had 4 total HOF's were the celtics in the 80's and the 60's and the warriors if u count Draymond as a future HOF(me I dont)

​@Albert You caught what Isiah was really trying to communicate to the world..lol. He had to hold back.

@Albert idiot hes a top 50 all time.. Search idiot

He was right about all of it

He has to get to the finals and perform well and if he faces Kawhi, he can't succumb to the pressure. After the birth of his kid, I think Giannis will come back post all star break with vengeance.

@@godson30032 I hope you know this guy has always gotten better and his team has always gotten better with him. . last year they got to the ecf . First time under a great coach .. it's only going to get better and I think stars should be thinking of joining Giannis

No ones counting him off it's the truth that Giannis becomes inconsistent in the playoffs he was lucky that he faced a mediocre Pistons team that was also injured in the 1st round and than faced a Boston team that was dealing with Kyries drama and how Kyrie quit on the team if Kyrie was focused on winning instead of causing drama and being a quitter Boston would've most likely beaten the Bucks even Giannis himself has admitted how he wanted the Bucks to keep Brogdon his clutch shooting also bailed them out in the playoffs when Giannis was inconsistent until Giannis plays on a consistent basis in a playoff run and faces worthy opponents this whole narrative of him being unstoppable gotta stop Lol

@MichaelTroy L before the season 90 percent said sixers would.. I just laughed

@@sabihfaraz6732 Giannis sandy inconsistent in the playoffs.. infact he wasn't good till the 4 consecutive losses.. bledsoe was mediocre .. if bledsoe had like at least an average series Milwaukee would've won it .. bledsoe was infact much worse than Giannis

Scottie wasn’t at his best when he became an all star tho. When he reached the peak of his prime he was a top 50 player but the time the Bulls took the Pistons to 7 Scottie wasn’t at his peak yet

That One Guy I think Isaiah just speaking in retrospect. Like from the outside lookin in now. Because Max said he wasn’t at his peak yet, but Isaiah was using Max logic of “on paper” analysis to combat back. You right though.. and Jordan’s squad didn’t have the cohesion Isaiah’s had

@@thatoneguy3849 what was his peak?

No other Piston should have been on the 50 greatest players list ✅

@@mygod5500 His peak was from 91 to 96 ✅

If Isiah doesn't get injured in 88 the pistons 3peat

I'd like to see Isiah and Scottie on the set together

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They were in Detroit, Chicago disrespected them and their city in the press. Why shake their hand in front of your own home crowd after they disrespected your city. Also, Detroit was older and done.

The Celtics did it first when Detroit beat them in the 89 conference finals. People don't talk about that one, but will hold that against the Pistons because Jordan said so.

@@quadryjohnson2099 Thank You...

@@kenrickeason Bruh I don't know why people seem to disregard that. It was the same exact thing, but because The Pistons did it to Jordan and the Bulls it was worse? Nope. The same exact thing.

Detroit stomped their heads for years before that even happened.

Right like the jumpball or the blocks Kawhi has on Giannis too right

@@brianortiz7233 im talking about the highlights they played while max was talking .

Absolutely not true.

@@followthebrickroad6518 once again im referring too the lowlights they played as max was speaking and a good majority of that is what happened

Razor - Jersey! You mean when Giannis blocked him from his blindsided ? Or you mean how he dunked on Giannis ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Fruit Punch Samurai I cant wait to see them play. I think Kawhi would be able to with everything on the line.

@@TheAliisawesome what's everything on the line? Is their life on the line, their family's well being? Stop watching these types of shows with people who have no idea about basketball and everything they say is aimed to be controversial or get likes and clicks on social media. Listen to podcasts from former players and coaches that's where the knowledge is

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Team effort. But in the specific one on one isolation plays between them. Giannis shot poorly

Also the ppl who try and slam Jordan for losing in 1st round are Bron fans who dont relise his 1st year he missed playoffs Wade made playoffs btw

P H because the East was horrible. He was making the playoffs not even getting 40 wins

Then you have LeBron fanboys acting like their surrogate father being 3-6 in the finals is comparable to Jordan's early playoff losses. Jordan didn't get outplayed by a 33 year roleplayer in a playoff series like Jason Terry did to LeBron.

And as soon as he first retired, the Bulls went from a 55 win season, to a 53 win season a game away from an NBA Finals

isiah said that MJ was still the best player. It wasn't criticism at all. He probably just doesn't like when things are over exaggerated when it comes to MJ because he was able to beat him and probably feels discredited when people say Jordan didn't beat him because "whatever".

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Exactly bro, that whole team was stacked.

Regular season means nothing lol

They were winning regular season games without Kawhi last year too

@@daniell5740 Yet every regular season game that Lebron plays is scrutinized and over-analysed for hours upon hours. LOL

Right!!!! The Pistons wasnt NOTHING TO PLAY WITH during that time!! They were ON POINT!! One of the top 3 teams in the league at that time. They were/are the team people love to hate just because the city was Detroit, smhhh 😒😑

You fools got swept Now go home and get your shinebox 😂

Man KD And Kyrie gonna be killing dudes next year.

Big freak would NOT join the Raptors!

@Luis Lopez did i say he was going to come back the same ?... You are definitely beyond yourself... Relax.

@Luis Lopez even if KD doesnt get back to the same lvl,he is still better then most so who cares top 10 no matter what

Agree, kawhi left the east bcuz he know kd/kyrie will be going on a murder spree next year

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Ya dig!!!💯✔ What up Doe!!!

He still mad he wasn't in the dream team...lol

That is Dope though. Zeke doesn’t forget.

But Zeke was born and raised in Chicago tho 😂 lol

Jahqay Burnett but they praised Jordan more and that probably made zeke salty

He just forgot dumars and rodman, must be Alzheimer.

@@guilhermevieira6010 he was talking about being apart of the top 50 players of all time

Guilherme Vieira Were they all-stars tho. He made that point because Max brought up Pip being an all-star

@@sanantoballa4834 yes they were all star level players

@@mattyice1896 ok, he should be top 50

The Cool Nerd Which is why he called him the “greatest player”. However, to doubt that MJ needed help to win championship which he certainly got with Pippen and Rodman, is to be lazy and wrong.

Jordan had nobody, once he got a little help he destroyed everybody, including isiah

And it was his first 3 years in the league

The Cool Nerd He never said he did or didn’t. He said he was the greatest player at the time when they played against each other(even though MJ lost in those encounters). So if MJ was not playing well against them, how could he not think he was the best player in the world even though he was coming up short? It’s not logical. He recognized that MJ did well against him. However he needed help and not only got help but he’s saying got help in one of the top50 players of all time.

The famous line every hater uses ”MJ lost in first round” but never mention the trash he was playing with and playing against 4 HOF celtics 86 and 87 and 85 Bucks who was no joke MJ rookie year

The salt is real

Just because you know it's true doesn't mean you gonna like ppl bringing it up

Charles Green everybody needs helps it’s foolish to think otherwise. I just think Chicago fans hate Isaiah for his past takes on Jordan lol

That’s something the real skip bay less would never say

Charles Green Scottie only got the Bulls to the 2nd round

On God

Exactly

It’s not a fact. It’s a technicality. Sure he didn’t have another top 50 all time but he had 2 most likely top 70 guys in Joe Dumars and Rodman. Jordan didn’t have that. Come on now.

@@stanleyfronczakjr9835 disliking the truth doesn't wish it away

I.T. Said facts none of it was opinion based

@@jerrodgarland2604 the fact was the second Jordan got another All Star with him, that was pretty much the end of The Bad Boys era...

@Nicrai Sixteen fair, but my point still stands tho.

Fabien Kouabran yeah but bad boys ain’t have no real allstars other than I.T.

@@fabienkouabran6481 Facts

I love IT but what he said was wild lmao making it seem like he was the only good player on those pistons teams that's why the dude shaking it head😂😭

Matthew Denby yeah but he ain’t have no top 50 of all time on his squad ..

@@RiseAboveMyHaters He didn't need one when you actually look at the team he had around him

Temanchi he played for that cities team rival his entire career & beat them year in and year out in the playoffs until 1991 why wouldn’t they boo Isiah

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Two rings compared to six rings… The bulls swept the Pistons… Isaiah couldn’t play on the dream team… He is jealous and bitter

- doesn't know nba history

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lol true, and that hes only 1.85 amongst all >2m guys lol

People always HATIN' on Isaiah!! It was the other way around.... MJ was intimidated and jealous of ISAIAH!!!!!! That's why he fought so hard to remove him from the All star team, etc!! Isaiah was THAT DEAL back in the day. Even Jordan admitted he and the Pistons were the bomb, even though he seems to hate them til this day! Smh

Like every stat, it has to be taken with context.

@J Johnson you're joking right? "eye test" means just putting your own biased subjective opinion ahead of objective facts

@@TheTruthiest yup I trust my eyes, knowledge and feel for the game more than I do the numbers and some analytical statistical nerd telling me what's greater

That's why I don't watch NBA anymore because what's greatness to them now is now is not what traditional greatness was back then... The actual meaning of the word... Jordan was the greatest because he played with style and grace that no other player could duplicate he didn't need a championship for the world to agree that he was the best ever that was something Jordan himself felt he needed for him to be the best

@@swishersweetsirelli6875 he didn't need a championship? They ride him for those 6 rings like nobody else has more than him or something

No he sounds like a 2x champion who beat all the greatest teams of the 80s and Michael Jordan

Chris Cuevas facts 💯😂

Edward Tucker I mean.....: 6 is better than 2 🤔🤔🤔

by saying he was the best player in the league?

@@cesarfierro9340 6 is better than 2 but those two rings he faced better comp getting to the finals and in the finals

RICH ALLEN That's why he got that chip on his shoulder. The bad boy pistons are underrated af.

And BIRD

Couple things hurt the 80s pistons. They had no flashy players and no true dominant player. Isiah was part of the top 50 all time when that list came out, but he will be bumped out soon. He was not a truly dominant player himself. The Bulls, Lakers and Celtics having more rings makes them more talked about team of that era.

@@danielkim672 Your delusions have you lost. Isaiah is the second best PG all time behind Magic. Do yo remember Isaiah pushing the Lakers to seven games while he was playing on one leg in game 6, he scored 43 points and 26 of them came in the third quarter forcing game 7. Honestly Pippen should be bumped before Isaiah on the top 50. Isaiah is a legend and this is coming from a fan of the showtime Lakers. People like you are bandwagon fans, you don't really know what's going on. What you know about ZEKE!

@@ldgslrcdg Man, I am not sure why all these internet trolls that obviously did not watch the NBA in the 80s and early 90s keep misspelling his name. SMH. How hard is that. IT IS ISIAH. Give the man at least that much respect. That was a great game by Zeke against the Lakers. One game does not make a career. I have no problem is someone wanted to bump Pippen for Zeke. Zeke and the Pistons are properly rated. There are so many folks that underrate him I agree, but so many that overrate him. Second best PG after Magic? CMON. You are not a Lakers fan. ALthough Jerry west is listed as a PG, I can get people put West as a Shooting guard for those Lakers. But The Logo did handle the rock a ton for the Lakers. So let's take the Logo out, but I will say he is hands down many steps better than Zeke. Not only does Zeke have a so so PER, his Win Shares per 48 minutes is very very low. Basically .100. The elite PGs, Like Magic, Like Oscar Robertson, Like John Stockton, Like the aforementioned Logo, all have Win Shares per 48 DOUBLE that or more. Add in more modern PGs like Chris Paul, Curry , they are better than Zeke. Some may argue Kidd is too. Others may put in Gary Payton. So for you to put Zeke #2 no arguments asked behing Magic, really goes to show you how much of a HOMER you really are

I don’t know why Pippen hate Zeke, it was Dennis Rodman pushed him in the stands

Good point

@Jscottmoody Isiah went against Jordan and was put in his place where he belonged so he can't tell me nothing because everything I stated is fact.

@@donnelladams340 Soo getting smoked 3 times then finally winning is putting someone in their place...?

Oh well 😏 He can stay butthurt❗

@@allthingsconsidered...4894 No we don't ❌ Yawl act like Jordan had to win every game and be perfect to be considered the greatest ✅ The Celtics have nothing to do with the Pistons and Bulls past rivalry ❌ The Pistons were dishonorable punks when they played both teams period ✅