I'm American, but one time I was travelling through Europe with a couple friends, and we had been on the road for 4 or 5 hours. We decided to pull off at this tiny little village in France to grab something to eat real quick. I don't remember the name of it. It was kind of up in the hills with gorgeous views, charming little shops, but not many people walking around. The type of place you could drive right passed on a long road trip and not even remember driving through it. It looked like there was only 1 actual sit-down restaurant, so we made our way there. There was an older overweight woman near the door who gave us some menus and pointed at the outdoor tables to take a seat. About 15 min later, the waitress came to take our order. I shit you not, to this day, she was the most beautiful girl I've ever seen in my life. Perfect tan, green eyes and strawberry blonde hair. She had that alien beauty that Bill was talking about. Like you couldn't find a flaw on her. I work in a part of L.A. where I see a lot of celebrities and models. They had nothing on her. I'm no simp but she was beautiful on a whole other level. And she wasn't even wearing makeup. Just completely natural beauty and a simple ponytail. Her english was very limited, so she was struggling with understanding us. She got really nervous, which was unlike the other French people we met, who would just repeat what they were saying in French but louder and a more angry tone lol. She had an innocence about her. She went and got the older lady to come and help her. Turns out that older lady was her aunt, and she was born and raised in that tiny little village. She probably had no idea how beautiful she was on a global scale.
Celebrities and models are women who wanted to use their beauty to gain celebrity. But the vast majority of beautiful people are happy to lead an ordinary life far from the limelight. You shouldn't have been surprised to see her in a small village.
I read your comment, and I thought about it.. Let me enlighten you. Model scouts, photographers, and people who "know people" travel all the time. They actively seek the most exotic women. One example is Sharbat Gula whom they found in AFGHANISTAN. She had exotic eyes and immediately became known. My point is, you will NEVER see someone THAT HOT in real life who isn't famous. There's no doubt she was beautiful, but nowhere near top models. You would see that if she stood next to them. You were probs really horny.
@@leylasaraf4953 Don't be that jealous angry bitch leyla, you're better than that. You probably have superior skills than her in other areas. . .cleaning, typing, who knows. Believe in yourself!
lazy people underestimate the impact they can generate on their outer appearance. especially as a man, you can go from ugly to almost-model by attaining an athletic physique, optimize your hygiene and hair management, fix your posture and behavior and clothing yourself stylish enough that fits your type. ofc this takes a lot of time and effort. too much for lazy people.
That’s true, everyone can do that, all you need is be consistent with your gym, lift heavy, less cardio, more recovery time, go to bed on time and eat more clean food. Don’t please eat less food.
Come on, this also depends of genetics. If you have narrow shoulders, even working out will not make you look bigger than a guy with naturally broad shoulders.
All I can focus on is A) How funny Bill burr is and B) how Joe keeps bringing it back to female beauty standards while Bill tries to balance shit with male actors/models... Much respect Bill.
@@katesweeney9101 Joe is kinda right though. I have never seen a man cares about beauty as much as women. men in my country make jokes about themselves if they are not beautiful and no one seems to care about it at all.
@@reducedtoatoms327 That's because women don't care as much about beauty in their partner than men. That's why men can make jokes about it, but women have to put up with it because the number one criteria men have for women is beauty.
I think he's probably natural, might not be, most of them aren't, but he could plausably be, his contract for superman basically told him to be naty as well.
Dud Summon he is with rocks trainer now i have doubts. he looks huge but not totally ripped. Maybe natural. Dunno. Him and Jason mamoa are naturally blessed with insane genetics.
@@Bernz66 Lol its not that funny.. Like the cheapest dig possible due to how obvious it is.. A 6 year old could come out with that one. The OP is probably some fat bitch triggered by their common sense.. In fact that is probably true of all of ya! :D lol!
Its unattainable if your genes aren’t the same. 1% or less of people are truly beautiful….that is both sexes. You cant be top if you’re not genetically blessed.
@@michellesimmons3150 no, not just one percent of the population has the genes to be super hot. That's complete BS, most people who never try, complain about genes. It's only unattainable if it can't be maintained year round or steroids had to be used to achieve it. But other than that, genetics is usually an excuse. Except when talking about calves
I think the "unattainable" aspect of it, actually has to do with it being unattainable. Where it's make-up and retouching and corrections and production. I work in advertising and, at least in my world its all fake and retouched. Not attainable by any human of any sort. I don't have a feeling about it one way or another. But it's just true.
@@ericktoussaint82 my point was more the physical stature aspect. Too many people chalk up six pack abs and an otherwise muscle-y physique to being “unattainable” as an excuse to maintain their own comparatively sub-par physique
@@michellesimmons3150 And that's why they get jobs as models or actors. Nobody wants to see some fat girl on the cover of a beauty magazine. Or a romance movie where the actors are fat.
"When you're ugly and someone loves you, you know they love you for who you are. Beautiful people never know who to trust." -a weirdly deep Drax quote from Guardians of the Galaxy 2
One thing I learnt in my 20s though was that stunners were better girls overall. Less attractive women had to prove to themselves that they were sexy, so would have all sorts of skeletons in their closets. Just give me a nice, attractive, healthy woman. Not only do you get all of those awesome qualities, but they're cleaner and more faithful.
a thing about being ugly tho, is that there isn't a guarantee that anyone in this world will love you. In fact, the odds are stacked against you. I'd much rather be beautiful and be in a superficial relationship, than be ugly and not get into any relationship at all
@@omnissiah7247 Um... That's not love, dude. LOL. Plus, I think you're over-valuing relationships. With relationships comes intimacy, but out goes freedom. There's a plus and a negative to everything in life. Plenty of single people out there who are MUCH more happy than married people or people in "relationships".
Choco Manger There is no such thing as true love, we are incapable of real monogamy, evidence suggests. Look at the divorce rates and women say they are never pleased by a man, while men have their own problems too. We are organisms that always strive to pick the best mate, we are programmed to cheat, not everyone does but it is almost impossible to really love someone for who they are, because we don’t think with logic, we think with emotion then justify that with logic We are animals at the end of the day, and our monkey brain drives us to pick first and foremost the physically best looking person possible, not personality. We are all shallow creatures every single one of us, there is no denying it.
@@You-xs1px Many people are capable of monogamy. Look all around the world throughout time. It is natural for humans to be sexually attracted to others, but with some strength, we can deal with it. We are programmed to be sexually attracted to others, but we can see the programming and fight to stay loyal.
Don’t get me wrong, Margot Robbie is a talented and fantastic actress, but she wouldn’t have got her breakout role in Wolf of Wall Street if she was fat or wasn’t blessed with a gorgeous face...it’s just how it is...
Jamie Gaskins My original comment clearly states that she also had to hone her skills as an actress as well...same way LeBron even though blessed with insane athleticism had to hone his basketball skills...what the fuck are you even mad for?
@Jay Macazza Stole from who? I swear there's a template for commenting on a JRE vid (Use one or more of the below) 1) Make a comment about how Joe Rogan is bald. Bonus if the guest is bald too. 2) Joe "(insert nickname based on something he said)" Rogan 3) "(insert something Joe said)" - Joe Rogan, (insert date of podcast) 4) This guest looks like character in a game/movie/TV show. Bonus if it's a young-ish guest and you say if there's a prequel, said guest can be that character in a younger age.
@@user-ik3xt1bx2n the body positivity movement is the movement where literally there is no movement at all. And, it wasn’t a waste of time, I spin more plates looking and feeling like a Beast
@@orppranator5230 Yes and after the Stick and Stones Special He just proved that Comedy is a place to go and just enjoy it and not to think just enjoy people are to sensitive now
I'm pretty sure that's what most people are talking about.... That and plastic surgery. Women are rarely very thin with big breasts, but the amount of women (I personally know several that have had it done) that have breast augmentation make it seem like this is the norm. Usually when you lose weight your boobs are the first to go.
as a dude whose dad LOVED fly fishing. the trick is the full rubber suits that go from the souls of your feet and end as "overalls" would. I wonder if anyone actually wears overalls anymore... other than people in africa who wear what was given to them... because if we didn't give them clothes they WOULD just walk around naked. how do i know? They walked around naked UNTIL WE GAVE THEM FREE CLOTHES! Just look at a national geographic magazine pre 1980...
You could be a handsome man like Hugh Jackman, but to go into the role of Wolverine, he still needed to work his ass off in the gym and eat until he puked. He had to look like the actual character. He never complained.
he got paid, uh, handsomely. You won't get a raise just looking good flipping burgers. The best you can do is learn to double flip the burger and "be all you can be" in the kitchen.
Not to mention he did it for damn near 20 years! Can you imagine if someone asked Amy Schumer to lose weight for a role once let alone for 20 years!? People would lose their minds.
Yeah, he totally transformed his body to star in Batman Begins, especially considering he had just done The Machinist immediately prior. That was the example that jumped to my mind when they started talking about women complaining about having to change their bodies to star in a particular role. Like, that’s part of the job. It’s inherent in being an actor that you have to maintain your body and be right for the role. It’d be like if someone being hired to be an accountant complained that they had to learn accounting to do the job. “What? You’re telling me I have to change my brain to suit YOUR impossible standards?! You should accept me the way I am!”
Basicly in acting you are freaking meant to be that. Rene Zelveger, Christian Bale and a pleathora of actors get morbid obese or anorexic skinny because they are freaking actors. It's like with Kurt Russel in the "Solider". He was out of shape and pretty aged at the moment. He asked for a year and he got to the shape he had when he was playing "Snake Plisken" in Escapes
Another notable transformation was Charlize Theron in Monster. Yes it was the other way but no doubt not easy and she had to live her life like that as well as lose it again
Also, I'm all for beautiful people especially if they promote health and commitment, but whenever I hear "unrealistic beauty standards" I think of crazy plastic surgeries, Instagram filters, and photoshop. That's the stuff that fucks with your brain and distorts reality. One of my biggest missions in life, when I have a daughter, is to teach her that beauty is not everything and also to teach her to not measure her worth by her beauty. My family is very shallow and it's taken me many years to appreciate beautify and to no envy it in a negative way.
Yes, that's what I think of unrealistic beauty standards... that or they have extreme diets to the point it's anorexia. The past 10 years or so there's been more and more healthy beautiful fit role models for women like the Tone it Up women- Karina and Katrina... or some youtube fitness influencers like Whitney Simmons or Nikki Blacketter. Where they show working out and eating properly is beautiful and inner happiness is beautiful. That to me is an attainable healthy beauty standard.
Amen! Don’t even wanna see it anymore lol read Dr. Leonard Sax’s book. He discusses how these standards are hurting both boys and girls (men and women).
@@millier.206 are you saying bill burrs point here isn't spot on? Like yeah, if your a 22 yr old 180lb whale of a female in college, your going to be invisible next to the girl who looks like ariana grande. Get over it. Pecking order.
My understanding of the UK ruling on 'unattainable standard of beauty' was that they wanted to discourage doctored images of models who are photoshopped to perfection: so LITERALLY an unattainable standard of beauty, not just super attractive, well toned etc.
How weak of a person do you have to be to have lower self esteem simply because you see a photoshopped image of someone else? And how is that anyone else’s responsibility?
@@chrisdurling9002 it starts with underlying jealousy or other problems right? I mean shit as soon as I got in this self improvement journey I feel less and less jealousy and I compare myself less and less to others.
Christian bale had to starve himself to get to 110 lbs in the machinist, then gain over 100 lbs and look ripped to play Batman the next year, and there’s people complaining about having to lose 15 lbs Edit: to everyone saying Christian Bale was not a natty in his preparation for Batman, please watch “more plates more dates” ‘s video on the topic.
Just Some Kraken With Internet Access Shit, with the paychecks they getting for those movies alongside with world class personal trainers and diet experts Id do that shit too
In North America, anything "Euro" to do with style usually implies it's tighter fitting. Baggy jeans were kinda the look here in the 90s & 00s in Bill's prime "about town" years, so anything tight like that is something to make fun of from his perspective.
"Stop complaining about the unattainable beauty standard and go to the gym." "If you have an eating disorder I get that but drink some fuckin smoothies." These guys are missing the point totally, especially Bill. The "beauty standard" isn't referring to the famous actors with abs, its referring to the intense amount of pre, during and post production that curates an image that bears no flaws whatsoever - done on actors/models that already have their lives dedicated to their image (believe it or not, not everyone can prioritise their beauty amongst their careers), even just the sheer amount of work put into these images is unattainable to the average person. The sheer volume of these seemingly real but unreal ideals across many media forms accumulate for years in the minds of children, teenagers and adults, People aren't being self-important when they demand change in the media - because the media is a public platform that impacts everyone. It's the same reason why some countries have regulations around how smoking/drinking can be portrayed in film. Go ask any teenage girl - even the ones without ED's will probably tell you how at some point they've employed unhealthy tactics to change themselves. But these guys seem to be more concerned about "the hundred million dollars as stake if this actor doesn't lose 20 pounds"... yeah right. Not one good point was made in this video, plenty of good jokes tho lol
but people have also to learn to not be fucking retarded. Otherwise we as 'consumers' would believe anything that would be said in ads (the percentage is too high even right now), removing the plain obvious sign on which is written "ads are fake and BS" would probably higher that percentage. if I watch a movie about superheros, obviously they have to look like super humans and not some realistic gym guy. And that is only possible by faking stuff - surprising I know but the actors aren't even real superheros. I stand for banning ads that promote anorexia in fashion or when the product is in direct context to the look (protein shake but using a modell on steriods etc). But for the big stuff like normal ads for big brands (fashion, odors etc) and hollywood it is ridiculous to ban something like that and that is what they talked about in the video. the general problem is more social media and parents disconnected from their kids with no parenting lessons or control (imagine what the babies now have to deal with with parents that have never learned it themself)
Evrett the ultimate embodiment of “I don’t give a fuck”. Honestly it sounds healthier to have his attitude because he isn’t getting stressed over shit that doesn’t matter
How can an actress be mad about having to lose 15 pounds. Like I’d happily drop some pounds if it meant getting to star in a movie and make a shitton of money.
They aren't. Literally everything they say to media is planned. Losing weight is the LEAST of their actual problems. Media targeted at women abuse these notions to keep spiking their audience's amygdalas and keep them interested/panicked.
Dr.'sorders you’re a little bitch lmao walk a day in a woman’s shoes, most of you pussies wouldn’t even survive lol especially in show business dumb fuck
Because actresses are usually already at the lowest weight they should be. Cameras really do make you look heavier than you are, so to appear super trim, you usually have to stay a little underweight. And when your at your lowest weight, losing 15 lbs is not easy. Plus It’s psychologically tough to be constantly malnourished and stressed. That’s why actresses usually drink so much green juice because they have to get in nutrition with little macros.
Most modern humans lack gratitude and are very pampered, men and women. On top of the fact that we live in a gynocentric society heightening narcissism and solipsism amongst women with a deeply materialist mindset so women not only expect to get everything that they want but also are easily bitter, jealous and lazy. They don't want to work and that laziness is so present within their psyche that being required to work in any way seems genuinely offensive, even if they're just asked to shed a few pounds.
When some new actor/actress pops up out of nowhere with no real outstanding looks I gather that they have relatives in the industry and I'm rarely wrong. I'm not even talking about talent!
Same, except my list is longer, and one of them is definitely Patrice O'Neal. Both him and Bill Burr have that high-pitched range that just causes you to lose it.
@@ryandavey5460 yeah... I saw that. Of course it sucks... but it's the part. Nobody, should be mean to anyone else... but if the job calls for it. That is different. I think...
The funniest thing about unattainable body standards is that they always show someone who obtained it. This is a self defeating argument. "No one can look like this" then they show someone who looks like this.
Right, but they're attainable only if your 40+hr/wk job is to look good or you hit the genetic lottery. Like, flying is attainable--by birds, insects, and aircraft. So good luck with your side of the argument
@@kilgoretrout321 you'd have a point for people with very specific limiting lifestyles but a couple of things: 1) 40 hour work weeks aren't that much work or limiting. It depends on the hours and how you use them but overall 40 hours isn't very much. You could literally dedicate another 40 hours to another goal while working 40 hours at your main job and still have time for basic family tasks assuming the family is mentally healthy and supportive of each other. It's even easier alone and there's plenty of time to feed yourself. If it's a fitness goal some of the 40 hours would be dedicated to cooking because 40 hours a week of weights might actually kill you. Though things like biking and swimming could be sustained for a full time job it's still too much with diminishing returns, but considering that scheduling a lethal amount of excercise is technically possible within the parameters a much more sustainable amount shouldn't be too hard. 2) are we thinking about the same "unattainable" body. This is a big one because some features are a matter of genetics while the basic stats like height to weight ratio and leanness are just diet based. Are we thinking about the same degree of these stats? And are we talking about legitimately having this extreme level or faking it well enough for a magazine cover? Is it maintained long term or a fitness appearence goal acheived for a short while then abandoned in favor of health? 3) what starting point are we considering. At some point outside intervention and aid becomes a must. Nobody is saying you have to do it alone and some people can't get it alone. But i think every man of my height with all his limbs can be 175 and 10% bodyfat no matter the circumstances within 5 years and i don't think this requires anything too insane. I'm not there but i haven't spent the last 5 years trying. I choose this stat because i saw a magazine cover with a dude this size on it. He looked good in the picture but that was probably just him peaking for that day.
@@kilgoretrout321 the limiting lifestyles i refer to are disability not children. Don't blame your kids. Their desires are your desires. Bring them along with your fitness goal. It's just play to them.
Lots of women have gotten on magazine covers without doing a single sit-up. When you see the male model's six pack abs, every man understands how much work that takes.
@@baguettewithcheese3880 I was blessed with good genetics when it came to abdominal muscles. It never took a lot of effort for me to get defined abs. I also know people who need an unhealthy low body fat in order to get the same look. A six-pack is simply unrealistic for a large portion of people, it's also over rated.
@@tapwater424 My basic point is that among male and female models, more work is done to attain (and maintain) by the male. Of course, this is on average, but it's still a fact. How much time in the gym do you think Tyra Banks spent before she started getting magazine covers? How many men get magazine covers that never worked out of managed their diet rigorously? How much time do you think the average male model spends in the gym before he gets a magazine cover?
For most people who are working 2 jobs or have a lot of responsibilities - the amount of time, effort, planning needed to look like a model is not realistic... Hence the term "unattainable". 99% of guys of buff athletes are using steroids as well.
Who cares..if someone is photoshop ped to look like they glisten on a magazine or an advertisement why are you offended by that shit..? It's just like art ..maybe easier ..but it's still just photography and no one is asking you to be like that..if you can appreciate how good that person looks in that photo..do it..or else stop comparing yourself to that shit..it's just plain stupid to do so..it's plain jealousy from that point on..why does tis bitch get to look like that when she isn't that good looking in real life... Is what it sounds like..it's photography..there's tons of manipulation..lights etc even without photoshop..
I'm talking about that narrative in general . We keep saying that...photoshopped..not real stuff .. i wasn't personally saying it you either..think about it..they're just photographs..
Except when pro athletes do doping they are banned. When models get photoshoped it just gets printed. Besides, sports celebrates "the best", when I watch a downhill skiing competition the commentator doesn't remind me that I too should strive to ride at 100mph. OTOH, a glossy magazine will absolutely try to convince me that this photoshoped, anorexic model is how I'm supposed to look as well.
@@TobaAdesanya No it doesn't it's trying to sell you sth by convincing you that "you too could be beautiful with XYZ". That inherently implies you're missing sth.
@@TobaAdesanya I get that, but its been proven time and time again that many (particularly teenage girls) develop severe self-esteem problems from being bombarded by these messages in the media and advertising. Prevalence of eating disorders has been on the rise for the past 30 years in most countries.
It matters. I had a buddy who was that guy. Girls used to approach us offering drinks/beers when we were living the dream as 20-somethings in Scottsdale back in the early 2000s. Never a shortage of womem at our house. He also had a helluva career for a guy his age. Never a shortage of female bosses that wanted to give him an opportunity and a decent salary. And every time we flew to Vegas...flight attendants would ask where we were headed later. It's a two-way street. Oddly enough, more than a few of us thought he might be gay. He wasn't. He just got tired of how easy it was. He's the model chick or exotic dancer that thinks men...are pitiful and desperate. He got the same feels about women.
zoom -zip did she say something about American politics? I remember a video with some Avengers “asking” not to vote for Trump but that was before she was in the spotlight
It’s true in a sense. And not just Vikings. Truly ethnic looking people are horrific. A mixture of cultures does truly change a persons appearance for the better at least in my opinion. Maybe we should follow the example in Bullworth, everyone should fuck everyone until we all look the same.
Unrealistic beauty standards is when plastic surgery is involved and a lot of those celebrities don't want to admit that they received plastic surgery because being "natural" is "better". The butt lifts, tummy tucks, breast augmentations......that's the unrealistic beauty standard
Problem with beauty standard is the photo shopping. You can't fix stupid, but MOST people would not have a problem with pure beauty if they didn't modify these super models into even more beautiful... so, that is where I stand. If they Photoshop, they should have an asterict noting that it was modified. That would hopefully relax peoples judgement and know what is real and not real and hopefully encourage REAL people, unaltered on the covers.
Erin I would even throw time and effort ie makeup and beauty work in there with the problem. Any girl can make themselves look great with enough time on their hands. That’s the problem. Girls try to make themselves pretty instead of being the natural beautiful human being that we all are.
You are right but it is not people like you, people who take time to think, to understand. It is people like us mixed with people who just have nothing better to do and they are not even the 100% part of the problem surprisingly... it is them, us and the people who let get offended, moved enough to make change but hey what can I say? We have been all of them at times in our lives. See, it just moves...
>most people would not have a problem with pure beauty if they didnt modify these super models yeah bro sure. just fucking uglies who cant accept that they have to work harder than the top 1% of elite human. fuckoff
Or, maybe, just maybe, people should quit comparing themselves to others all the time and overcome their despicable envy for once. Those who seriously think some models are somehow supposed to represent the average person can't be very smart, either (all the while modifying their own damn photos on facebook to look perfect).
@@aeggeska1 The problem with this "logic" is there is example in the past how these "normal" people handled Nazis when they bumped up.... just don't care or argue against the shit when arise... oh, shit!
@@aeggeska1 One thing is to complain about something in a conversation or interview, quite another is trying to create a movement out of a complaint. And, btw, go fuck yourself
