John Connor vs T-800 | Terminator Salvation [Director's Cut] 

I agree. This movie is criminally underrated. It's such a shame they didn't continue on from this. It's a perfect beginning for a new Future War trilogy.

@@Nicholas_Chen_ Dont mistake better for good now

Couldn’t agree more. At least Salvation tried to be different. It’s CGI and practical effects are certainly better.

AGREED 100 percent

Oh, absolutely. John Connor got the respect he deserves in this movie, compared to the sequels where they KEEP FUCKING UP HIS CHARACTER AND EVEN KILLED HIM!!! WTF!!?

Should watch his Rant about a lighting person.

Facts even the t 800 had very good acting

Wish we had a trilogy with him as Connor

Klutz Specter you mean the dude who ruined like 18 takes by screwing around in the background?

@@klutzspecter3470 that rant make him even more badass 👍

J LOCC r/woosh

Dam it rlly was 4 years already?

Look up Boston Dynamics please.

In what year does it take place? I forgot.

Hyungmin Seo 2018.

Looks like you messed up the timeline again Barry.

@The Gems Calls Me Daddy Too by freezing and warming Mr. Freeze... nothing wrong.

Joe Swanson 😂😂😂😭

Joris Flash was*

Joris Flash yep

true!

According the the Blue Ray special features, that was a T-700. That's why if flew back, destroyed so easily. the T-800 hadn't yet reached them. (the first three grenades barley slowed it down) The setting was a greasy and dirty factory floor and was meant as a counter-point the scene w/ Sam in the sterile and spotless clean-room. Machine on one hand and living tissue on the other etc, etc.....

@@chopper2429 Im pretty sure thats the T-RIP (or the T-800 for all intents and purposes) because you can see bits of muscle tissue all over the machine, and it has a chrome finish, rather than the matte dark grey the T-700s have

Chopper242 That’s a T-800 prototype also known as the T-RIP. The T-700 was the Terminator model that John encountered while he was trying to hack Skynet’s security system.

@@terryprice1691 I think that was a T600 still. Being bulkier and larger than T700/T800.

T2 had it better

@@redsatoshiketchum9229 I disagree. The only thing he did was looking in a weird way at the battlefield. Bale is far superior.

@@redsatoshiketchum9229 The Connor in T2 takes place after the events of Salvation because of the scar on John's face.

@@redsatoshiketchum9229 idiot

that chica from poop fate scored headshots with the watermelons without training

Both Genisys and Dark Fate fucked John Connor; JC is the antagonist of the Genisys (WTF?) and in Dark Fate, he is already dead.

And the time travel rules are flawed

@@rinne409 and according to DF they stopped skynet . So John wouldn't have become the resistance leader and a robot carried out a pointless order . And if skynet was stopped then shouldn't everything have been reset erasing the first and 2nd films as skynet didn't exist and no need to send Terminators Back

@@Mattinator95 In a way, linear time travel never makes sense

@@rinne409 I liked Genisis but I'm scared to see dark fate. Salvation is the best since T2.

Jezuz Creez I feel the same way

At least it moved the story forward. The last Terminator movies to include Fate have been a rehash of the same killer robot/ protector sent through time plot. Gets really old.

@@46sn29 Terminator dark fate was good bro.

Jezuz Creez agreed 100%

when i saw this back when it came out i loved it still do the CGI and other stuff people complain about doesn't bother me i love this movie to this day i always wanted a judgement day era movie and salvation didn't disappoint

lmfao!!! christ never noticed that.. just plops and looks dead.

Oh man, that's hilarious

RPTFLMAO!

Lol!

And in the background you can see Mark Zuckerberg being assembled

Not only terryfying but also absolutely badass, you could feel in that scene that t-800 is a f*ckin metal brute, unstoppable tank on two metal feet and the beast that will do everything to kill you. The shot when T-800 gets up and starts to move towards Connor after having its skin melted and still in flames is IMO one of the best ones from Terminator Franchise, or even from action/science fiction cinematography, and an absolute nightmare fuel.

Then for some reason it goes flying when shot by Kyle Reese grenade launcher.

@@mustangcody I don’t think it was expecting that tbf. It could be possible for them to hold their one weight on the ground. Kindling similar to someone wanting to pick you up. It was just too focused on John to notice I guess lol

My favourite part of this scene. It looks like a walking tank

Imposible not be glad for the old terminator after seeing the feminist shit that is terminator dark fate.. (sorry about my english i am mexican)

JasterGrumman It’s NOT IRONIC. IT’S LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE

I call it "The Prequels" syndrome

This movie has a higher budget than genisys and dark fate that's why!!🔥

Interestingly, Dark Fate was better received then Salvation

ArieEdits thats what artificial intelligence is arnolds t800 became smarter just like sonny from i robot and there always be a machine smarter than the others

@@martinadame7594 But in T2, the directors cut(which is canon) the T-800 will only really turn on its learning computer once the inhibitor on his cpu is removed. Even then, as uncle Bob said: "I know now why you cry, but it is something I can never do." Also, once the terminator's mission is fulfilled it should probably find other ways to help support the creation of Skynet.

@@JSN117 That's another level of anger for me. At first I thought, they can only do that if they turn on the switch on their CPU. BUT then, I was like, they did do that! BUT then I realize, that terminator died in the lava. So this new terminator learning like is the COMPLETE BOLLOCKS.

lol

I actually don't have a problem with that. Since TWO we've known that they have the ability to learn and adapt to humans.

Nah its just average

It seriously is tho

wood kid it an okay movie at best for me anyway but some scenes are really amazing like the end fight

It’s okay. The plot hole of Skynet knowing who Kyle Reese is sucked. They capture him and have the chance to change the past from the future.

It's sleep inducing garbage

So that means the world outside Gotham is a post-apocalypse war zone. DC Universe is even darker than I thought

and his throat cancer was cured

@@HeyIntegrity lol

The Future War cured his throat, but fucked up his knees.

@@Stellar001100 "I used to dust HKs, like you... then I took 40 watts to the knee."

Agreed!!!

also a badass voice

I would have preferred Owen Wilson. "What's your name?" "Kyle Reese." "Wow!"

BECAUSE HE'S BATMAN!!!

uburton - Lol 🤣🤣🤣

that part was meant for the fans !!

Explination pls? :)

@@Tringlishman1992 If you’re a fan of the movies, I don’t need to explain

I ama fan just not a fucking twat like u

@@Tringlishman1992 John spent a good part of his life believing his father just dropped out of his own life and left him with a psycho mom. Here he’s acknowledging the fact that Kyle wasn’t a part of his life as a father because he sacrificed his life for him and his mother.

Like father like son or son like father, its kinda confusing

So much regret

Quick! Go back in Time through the displacement field. Go to 2009 slap some sense into people, encourage them to go see Salvation, and warn them about the dark fate that waits for them if they dont!

@@JSN117 true that!

Skynet actually asked John Connor for help after this because they encountered a more dangerous threat, and Marcus also survived.

It actually was going to have sequels. But the rights for the films expired there was a bidding war and it got bought out by somebody else.

And...don't forget Terminator: Resistance

T5 and T6:deviantart fan fictions

@@Thefellowmemeguy and fuck deviantart

@@Thefellowmemeguy T7 and T8- A child's imagination

​@@Nico18_ the real continuation

Agreed

T-1000% Agreed

What's different in the directors cut?

@@zaer-ezart not much from what i remember just one or two added scenes

zaer ezartzt As far as scenes go, not really much but the film is noticeably sharper and "cleaner", you can tell they went back and made the film easier to watch from an aesthetic standpoint. It's a good purchase if you have the money.

Agreed. Storyline is weak and has stupid plot holes but everything else is great. The T-800 looked scary for the first time since T1. Using Real endoskeletons made them real and menacing unlike Rev-9 in Dark Fate which looked fake and stupid.

IMO, the scenes are nice. The story and technical direction are all over the place.

@@geonerd still better then the next two movies that followed

Also in my opinion the way Bale potrayed Connor at least physically was impressive... trained soldier, leader, resourceful, brave and he looked badass. You see him in danger when he comes face to face with a robot except at the end where he conveniently gets thrown around instead of the Termi ator bashing his head in but in the rest of the movie, I was impressed. Even the scene in water when surrounded by hydrobots I felt was great. The plot and his arc may not have been impressive but

And she landed face first, not even on her back, LMAO

i didnt even notice

Omg that's hilarious

Francisco C Tf? Why would they do that??! 😂😂🤣🤣

Syrus7sk The sound effect of the fall! LMFAO!!!! 😂🤣😂

The same shit happened to T2 and Genisys. Whoever did the Marketing for Terminator movies should be Terminated.

Yeah this has been a thing since T2 apparently lol

I disagree. I feel when you watch the movie, it's kinda obvious he's a Terminator. I mean, he was executed in 2003, on a slab and unresponsive in a Skynet War Camp, wakes up in 2018 with no knowledge of the war or Skynet and hasn't aged a day. What other conclusion could you come to with all that evidence? The real question is why no one questions that he doesn't know anything about the 15 year long war, feel like someone should've asked "where you been the last 15 years." On the same subject, Connor tells Marcus that Kyle Reese is his father, yet Marcus doesn't question that, since Kyle Reese is younger than Connor. They had the right idea, I think what they should've done was had him be an infiltrator, but he was built so much like a human he bought his own cover and forgot his programming, which was to kill Connor.

@@WeylandYutaniCorp91 that would have improved the movie quite a lot. Instead of having still human organs all he has of the skin of a dead person. He was never Marcus Wright but he still joins voluntarily the resistance. In the finale he could donate as many of his artificial organs (So they are mechanical but have similar functions to the organic counterparts for infiltration purposes) to John connor so He can save him, which is even more similar to the original ending they had in mind.

@@LordFindogask734 That works too. I like the concept of Skynet working so hard to make a robot that could pass for a human, that it thought it was human and couldn't betray the human race even though he's not human. It reminds me of a Batman cartoon where a computer similar to Skynet tried to replace humans with robots, and it made one of Batman, but the Batman robot was so much like Batman, it couldn't violate Batman's ethics, such as take a life or grasp the concept that he's not human. So when it had a chance to fulfill its creator's objective to take over the world, it betrayed its creator and sacrificed itself to stop it.

I think Kyle knew after he fell in love with Sarah, but he died before John was born. Still John could never have Kyle as a father but judging by how Kyle looked up to him John probably saw Kyle with the affection one would have for a child. It’s so weird when you think about it but it’s what makes their relationship so interesting IMO.

I still really like T3, the true sequel to T2 and I'll accept Salvation as the true T4. The rest is just a bad dream.

I dont understand the hate, they arent the best of course, but narrative wise this is exactly what i would imagine would happen. Maybe if salvation tied everything up by sending kyle to the past then it would really circle around. But these are action flicks, and they tell the story. Obviously genisys and dark fate dont exist.

Genisys has its own timeline

Yeah, he rips the T-600 in half and he does it easily. Why couldn't he do the same for John ? The T-800 had a grip on John Connor 4 or 5 times already. With it's grip strength alone, the T-800 could've easily killed John. But what does a well programmed machine does... it just throws him around. Then again, if this were real, those throws could easily paralyze or even kill someone.

Bcoz he's Batman 😂😂

“Be Ready When It Starts.” “When what starts?” “W A R!”

Until he freaks out on set

Behind the scenes outbursts aside, I thought he did an AMAZING job as John Connor! If another terminator movie is made that takes place in during the war, I hope Christian Bale can reprise his roles

@@rebel1717 not another terminator movie enough already

@@Anubis-xk4ht I agree with you only on the movies that deal with time travel. God, we have far too many of those, and it does nothing new anymore. If we had more terminators that deal with the future war, AND IF IT'S DONE RIGHT, I think we can all agree it would be awesome.

@@rebel1717 how bad was dark fate is it the worst

Yup Genesis felt generic. At least. James Cameron made a good return with dark date. It's good.

@@SAM_1077 Not really, Dark Fate was an okay sci-fi action movie, but way below par for a Terminator movie. It killed off a character that was central to the plot of the entire franchise, just so they could replace him and recycle the exact same story from T1 & T2. All they did was rename Skynet to Legion (very generic name), replace Kyle Reese with Grace, replace John Connor with Dani Ramos while giving supporting roles to Linda and Arnold just so they could draw in some extra ticket sales, which at the moment looks like it didnt even work since it bombed at the box office, look it up.

What message?

@@HeyIntegrity There is a current trend in Hollywood where gender, racial & identity politics are being injected into in the industry. The main characters of already established franchises are being replaced by people of a different race, gender or sexuality just for the sake of it. Those are the factors that are being prioritized now when hiring a cast, when really the main priority should be looking at if the individual is qualified and if they can actually perform and act well. We're all for the promotion of equal opportunities, but FORCED equality and FORCED diversity is a big no no. To add, these 'reboots' and 'remakes' have suffered in quality in comparison to their previous editions, which is the main reason why a lot of the audience are bothered. There isn't an issue with a person of a different identity being the lead in a movie or TV show, as long as it's ORIGINAL, well directed, well produced and well performed.

Yep! it showed and explained why Connor would actually have an open mind to something that was part machine, and Anton Yelchin as the teenage Kyle Reese was great, and Christian Bale as how the adult John Connor would be is pretty damn good. And of course you can't have a Terminator movie without Arnold, and it hit that too!

Especially when its first attempt for infiltration units were the T-600s considering how easy they were to spot with their rubber skin and loud robotic sounds

@@z-man1237 sky net actually made them to resemble a human like how Marcus mistook it at the beginning of the movie it’s to entice humans to get closer to it

jesse Hernandez I agree with u but how is it better than 3 😑

It isnt better than 3 in any way

Gustavo Soares exactly

Gustavo Soares it’s better than 3 because it wasn’t some copy n paste movie

Despite the flaws of this movie it would’ve been nice to get a future War Trilogy spanning from 2018-2029. Just to watch humanity conquer the inevitable machines.

gor9027 I’ve been saying the same thing...

Dark Fate did something different in the absolute worst possible way and somehow was just a copy paste of T1 and T2.

Don't watch dark fate that film trashes on john Conner

I think the execution is a little bit off, but not enough to warrant any hatred of the film and to have made it lose money at the box office. I think the reason it had done so bad is due to Christian Bale and his very public freakout.. Which I feel hurt the movie. Yet, not any of his other roles or movies. Salvation is a proper T-3 continuation imo. It gives us the resistance leader in the making, John Connor, instead of the same shitty time traveling plotline. It finally showed us the war that they were trying to prevent and everything else. The meeting of his father and so and so forth. I wish Salvation was "remade" as written a bit better to fall more in line with Terminator, however.. There's hardly enough flaws to say this is really shitty. Thanks to this failing we got bullshit Genysis and the worst of all; Dark Fate. Now I bet audience and fans wish they got this movie rolling..

@@GeekedOutNeckbeard true

It was quite bland and dull at times, but overall I very much liked the story and the worldbuilding, so many new machines were being introduced in this movie, they created a very organic, post-apocalyptic world, and also had some interesting characters that could be explored further in the future.

😊

Dark fate was just ok.

MrOnlyforcommenting I’m watching Dark Fate tonight. I’m hoping that it’s good but I’m setting my expectations pretty low.

Update: Dark Fate was ok but it was definitely disappointing and a complete rehash of the first 2 with different characters. As I’ve said before, wasn’t expecting much, but if no one cares about the first two movies, you’ll probably enjoy Dark Fate. If you do care however, you’re probably not going to like it. I’m officially done with Terminator honestly. The franchise ended with T2 imo. All James Cameron cares about is just making money. This movie was a big F-U to many fans of the first two movies. It was great while it lasted but I believe it is on it’s last leg.

all true. I hate those dumb plot holes too.

this move deserves better

Easy, plot armor and the fact that there's only one terminator can be explained by a lack of budget in the movie, they obviously lacked the budget to animate and put a lot of T-800 with the face of Arnold, that'd be unbelievable expensive.

Because it's prototype lol, the Ai not much different compare to T700

No I didn’t but I guess they are reasonable questions

That’s funny cause he is 😆😆😆😆

Don't forget this was made a decade ago, it's not like now if you have a good enough budget and the means to do it, you can pretty much deage anybody you want. Now whether the execution will be good is an entirely different conversation but it was easier to CG it

Actually they didn't want to have to have a NUDE stunt performer fighting throughout the film LOL. The Terminators are anatomically correct (aka so that they still pass for human if any human sees them naked). Don't want that dangling dong being 'strategically hidden' throughout the fight. Besides, the endoskeleton is far scarier.

Broo i just noticed 😂

They changed it because either they realized it’s a dumbass decision that shits on John Connor all for the sake of subversion of expectations (Think Dark Fate but it drags John farther into the mud before stomping the boot onto his legacy) Or because test audiences were crying way too much (Think the first Rambo movie where Rambo originally dies)

Also shits on T3's whole twist with the T850 being the same one that killed John Connor

Just something newer and better. Making something cooler

Thats an actual video. Wow

Mr. Freeze

Well Batman lost but perseus saved him from Mr freeze.

@@SAM_1077 Looks like someone remembers Clash of The Titans!

@@UreiMiseinen Yup 😁

stan broniszewski owned more like be one

Ikr??

Yup. T-Juan000 is ugly cgi garbage

@@alqindfx4835 lol

@@TrAp1O2 Rev-9 got BODIED by a teenage girl and when it had the chance to hurt her, it just grabbed her leg and choked her. It could have tried to break her leg and punch her to death but nope. It chose the slower route.

And to think, this used to be seen for free here on RU-vid. Then it became ScrewUTube.

With genisys and dark fate existing, rise of the machines is actually a good film.

Thats like saying a movie is better than Stepping on a Nail but hey

Yeah, that annoys me too. Even if I have to admit seeing flying Connor looks cool, it's only for effect. In reality T-800 would kill John the first time it lays it's hand on him. The other thing that annoys me is the growling sounds T-800 produces. Gets old pretty quickly. Other that that I dig the aesthetics of the film. Especially in this scene it looks pretty close to T2 visually.

@@Paar86 if you hit a t800 in the head he will toss you..looks like a bug or some kind of anger

Greg Kiborg yea if nothing else he would be so broken up being thrown like that. That’s what annoys me. Seems like Johns body is stronger than the terminator’s.

In close combat grabbing enemy with magnetic thermite charge is bad idea for robot.

Dark fate is good. But I think salvation is more better.

Innamorato I completely agree with you. I remember all forums about T4, people were criticizing him like crazy. Some of them were making fun of his name like “ why his name is McG, kind of nickname in internet?!” People were so cruel about him and the T4 . But now everyone admits that this movie was good continuation of Terminator story...

Agreed, but we kinda needed T3 for this one to happen since T2 ended with the hope that judgment day was stopped...unless this would’ve been a prequel to T1

Yeah, it actually showed us the war, Genisys and Dark Fate just rehashed the time travel element that had already been done 3 times.

@@camgold3191 dark fate was poop!