Koreans React To Radical Feminist Hand Sign | Street Interview 

But if they do that, they need to ask the hard hitting questions and not lob them a freebie. Most questions and responses are too safe and pc that it’s boring and predictable. You need to hit radical with radical lol.

@@user-ot2nh8qb7d "Hit radical with radical. " I like how you think😌

there are harldy any fat women in Korea so would only be a few korean radical feminists, most of them would be Americans living in SK

@@tytube3001 why would they need to be fat tho

@@tytube3001 that was super rude of u

@Isaac Smith wtf are you talking about.

@Isaac Smith I'm talking facts. Not really sure what point you were trying to make with your first comment.

@Isaac Smith check the Gender Inequality Index and WEF's gender gap index. Simply facts and something well talked about. No need to be a white knight for Japanese people lmao.

@Isaac Smith damn i read this in ben shapiro’s voice y me estoy meando de la risa

@Isaac Smith bruh u trippin balls rn

Agree

You guys have no idea what south korean radical feminism movement 1.White supremacy : this is not lie, They always praise white man so call "갓양남" God western man and despise Asians 2.Hatred on minority and transgender : They hate minority groups of foreigners group, and they really hate transgender quote "They are not real women, so he can't be in women's college (They actually kicked out transwoman ) 3.'Feminism movement' that ironically want patriarchy : They don't want to be in the job or work, they mostly want man / government take care of them. Money, House, food, even chores in the house all belong to man's job and they despise impregnation/ giving birth.

@@2Asspie explain

@@flimsycummerbund1403 did my comment got deleted? or just bug IDK SOOKMYUNG WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY transgender withdraw 2019

명성황후=NO.1위안부,제주 4·3학살 만세,광주5·18학살 만세,주 한 미 군 이 한국 여 자 를 강간 했다. 한국 정 부 는 잡 을 권리 가 없다. 한국 은 미국의 노예 이다,.

trust me it isn't. there's many cultures where the middle finger means nothings

One of the funniest and most ignorant things to come from America 🖕🏽🤣🤣

Korean men are obliged to serve in the military for two years at the age of 20-24. They have to give up their youth for two years while receiving $1.75 an hour (Korean minimum hourly wage is $7.63). It is difficult to find a job after going to the military because women who did not go to the military are fully prepared for employment.

@@senahidetosi actually not 2 years. One and half

@@yu9605 Thank you so much for the half-year discount;;

@justice justice yo what ? I don't think so . I mean it still lurks around everywhere and Japan is not excluded from it .

@justice justice Japan has a train dedicated to only women because sexual harassment is so bad 😭😭😭

@@yemack so why are most women successful in japan then if "patriarchy" exists? Seiyuus, manga authors, actors, musicians, artists etc are just as successful as men if not more.

@@yemackof course there are careers where a specific gender excels at nothing to do with patriarchy like those in construction/hard labor where men are physically built for just like there are mostly women in the beauty / fashion industry but i dont hear you complaining. Thats a weak argument. but wheres your evidence? all claims with nothing to back it up. Why dont we ask the actual japanese in this thread?

@@yemack because im not making the claim you are and i just gave you evidence, do you want me to list all the successful japanese women because they are a ton, ill give you the biggest ones; japan's highest grossing movie of all time was made by a woman, megumi hayashibara is the highest paid seiyuu of all time, ayumi hamasaki is the best selling solo artist of all time, look it up and try using google. damn patriarchy youre doing a bad job oppressing all these successful women! do you want me to go on? your "evidence" is all hearsay from people who havent even been to japan while i gave you facts. also, you ignored when i gave you logical answers why one gender excels at some careers. nice. still waiting on that evidence so far you provided none.

Korean men are obliged to serve in the military for two years at the age of 20-24. They have to give up their youth for two years while receiving $1.75 an hour (Korean minimum hourly wage is $7.63). It is difficult to find a job after going to the military because women who did not go to the military are fully prepared for employment.

You know what's funny? Megalia was small community disbanded years ago and they never have been majority. Korean men used them to generalize feminism as bad thing and demonize feminism Their symbol(the hand sign) have never been also a problem in any ads or posts before but a Korean men community(fmkorea) started insisting that's sign of man hatred symbol from May 2021 and attacked every companies using those signs since then. One man in the vid said like "Men didnt really care before but some women started using it so it became problem" and it is not true, since women didn't use those signs to symbolize their genitals before men started making it a problem from may 2021. They made it a hatred symbol bcuz they want to one day.

@@elluise14 No. They use real evidence and what is actually happening after the president Moon was elected to target what happened in the past that made the current president popular even among young men 4 years ago. Funny how tides have turned all thanks to the effort of the current stupid government.

For them to show their face they had permission to do so. When people want to hide their face they do.

@@elluise14 Radical feminist right here. Megalian when first launched was brimming with tons of traffic so stfu. They were pedestaling the radical feminist movement and that hand sign was their logo with malicious symbolism since 2015. They were doing what you are doing: creating false news and spreading it all over the place and demonizing men. At first the men endured the attack but eventually there was tremendous backlash with all that hate towards men. Feminism was practiced and represented as Megalia for almost 3years and naturally that website disbanded. There are still MULTIPLE websites that share these radical feminism views like Women’sEra(여성시대) consisting of 800,000 active members today, so cut out the whole ‘never been majority’ bs.

this is the internet, you can't come here and ask everyone to act sensibly. are you kidding me?

@@felipefreitas3942 Lmaoooooooo when did they say they expect that behaviour? But also your comment was just so out of place it made me laugh

@@felipefreitas3942 brazil moment

I agree with that, equality & respect benefit everyone if that is reallt what it is. But honestly, I've never seen a radical feminist (& rarely a self identifying feminist) care about males equally to females other than lip service. It is usually "I onky care about women, i want males to support my cause and then will be willing to throw them under a bus." The issue of DV is a good example. Many feminists want to protect women only from domestic violence, & don't acknowledge or ignore the dact that false accusations in Custody disputes are getting very common and an easily abused special power. It is actually possible to protect everyone from DV, and equally treat false accusations (esp in Custody disputes) seriously. They are an easy way to gain money, power or custody. IMO feminists arw almost always Female-first & Gynocentric in practice, not gender equal, just like their name suggests- as opposed to what they claim about themselves. I kind used to be a male feminist, because i naively thought feminists wanted equality, as they often claim with words alone. I still agree with feminists on some things & some concerns, but would never trust them to not throw males under a bus if it helps them.

@Winter Wyvern *looks into 1000 years ago or even ancient times:* "So, about that."

Amen.

The fact is : where are those asking for women's superioty? Legit never heard them, just others saying that feminists asking for equality or criticising patriarchal issues are in fact asking for superioty, when it obviously isn't the case here.

@@adeles328 yup that's the point, you got it. But turns out not many understand it, some people need facts stated.

@@adeles328 Well, the thing is, they are not asking directly for "superiority", people like these (extremists) point at everything they can and define it as a "bad fruit" of a patriarchal system, taking to the point of assuming that, for example, if a man owns something (like a business) or is in a position of power and wealth (like an actor), they were somehow systemically handheld to be in that place, as if they didn't work for what they got or even, NEVER deserved it. You see the problem here? Feminists like these take cases where horrible man abused their power to diminish people that don't really deserve it. Ironically, that seams to be a trend when they address a situation, as you can see in the video.

@@Srevengel that never happened. You people love to invent the most ridiculous situations to support your ideologies of "bad feminism" instead of understanding what it's really about. If only you had the same attitudes when it comes to patriarchal agendas starting from centuries ago continuing until now then I guess the problem would never exist in the first place lol

Yeah lmao no point, absolutely no one is going to say what they really think regarding this issue on camera. Anyone who would is a extremist in a unique situation who would not be a good counterbalance.

Because Korean men consider any feminist a radical crazy feminist. They're quite upset that they're no longer allowed to oppress women, so any woman who speaks up for themselves is now considered radical.

S Korea having Christian values. I felt sad seeing this because these women don't realise they are practicing Jezebelic practices and may have the Jezebel spirit I pray those who are reading this to be wary of the situation because many would be decieved May Jehovah be with you Amen💚💚💛 Disclaimer: dont be offended There are many bad men and women out there and few good people nowadays so this is not a generalisation but the few who don't realised how the world had been decieving men and women and not even realsing it because their subconsious mind is what get them affected. Edited: I wrongly wrote S Korea being a Christian Country which . Sorry if I have offended anyone. But I hope you get what I'm trying to say.

@@Myumeful i mean... they can speak up but why are they talking about someone else? i just have mixed feelings about this issue.

@@Myumeful Korean women aren't oppressed. Stop seeing Korean men as misogynists. Korea doesn't need feminism.

And definitions are constantly changing, plus people define things how they want so what are terms without nuance?

Korean feminists say like "Same work Same salary" but actually they don't. In korean government ministry, there are lots of female crew but no one do night duty. Also if male say "As female and male are same, we have to do same duty.", female say like "Stop misogyny! Female is weak so the male have to protect us. If you don't, you are misogynist. " Also lets take an example of police. ALMOST KOREAN FEMALE COPS DON'T / CAN'T ARREST THE CRIMINALS. That's because, feminists say "they are female, even they are cops so male have to protect female and if you don't you are misogynist". All korean policeman have to protect female police while fighting with criminals. Also there was a accident that female police shout like "Hey man!! Come on and catch him!!". Lots of people criticized the shortagr of that female police but feminists instigated like "All male who criticize this are misogynist". This is the truth of Korean Feminism.

this is exactly what I was thinking while watching this video

@@user-nk1ib2xe2x if they are expecting men to protect them and refuse to do their duties, they are incompetent for the job and clearly are not feminists. So check the definition of feminism again and stop calling them that. Also stop generalizing those women who work based on a video or limited media you have seen.

@@siren8624The is a massive difference between the dictionary definition and how feminists groups act in real life.They call themselves feminists and are widely recognised as feminists lol, what you expect people to call them. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't feminists. There is no "real feminism", all you have to do is call yourself one. Would you accept this from any other group, oh any bad thing a conservative does doesn't make them a "real conservative".

emagine how many feminist agree with that.

@@user-eg5bv5gd6x None.

What about no one should do a military service and should instead be voluntary?

@@_blank-_ north korea?

Singapore also has compulsory conscription for men but we don't have such issue here.

the point of it is precisely to outrage men, whether thats effective to their cause is a different story...

Yeah LOL feminists thinking saying korean men have small pp's is gonna solve sexism... little do the idiots know they're making it worse 🤡

@@cibasbrito U know men get a lot of plastic surgery because woman are also shallow and superficial right?? Why do people only assume Korean woman go through this?

@@cibasbrito So you're blaming all of the problems on men? "Men are superficial and shallow", sounds like you're the one being sexist.

@@cibasbrito I do agree that a lot of men's rights activist say a lot of bs, but that doesn't really excuse this sad attempt here. Also, you gotta realize that no one in this video (from the parts I've watched at least) generalizes feminism and is careful to call this extreme or radical. Then, for the surgery bit, I do believe that the amount of people getting plastic surgery in SK is high in general. I think there's just something substantially wrong in their concept of beauty and that no one really tries to fix it. Not that someone or a group is inherently at fault for it. Also, I don't know what you meant by the criticism falls on women? Are you talking about the surgery? My comment? The video? Please do note that I'm not trying to be hostile, just holding a conversation to share opinions and I'm not completely denying anything

Lol nowadays?

it's all because of the people that profit from that divide--anyone who makes money from holding the attention of others (mainly media and advertisers).

“Nowadays” you mean, all of human history

@@ChristopherCricketWallace In this case, it would be the current ruling party in the country.

Exactly

And even the Gillette ad

Oops, am I the only one who found the tag line funny? 🤣 I mean I know many men who would love a woman to sit on their face! 😂😂 So I guess it’s sexualising women yet again, huh. Well, sex sells!

Ok but that's kinda kinky though

But that has a sexual conotation rather than an actual "do things for you" vibe. :/

Where there is oppression, there is resistance 🙂🙂 This is about why feminism in Asia tend to be radical. In China, Japan and South Korea the patriarchy is serious, deep in the root of the culture. Those comments should blame the men supremacy before talking about radical feminism 😒😒

@@user-ks1rn8ze2i and hypocrites

@@thenoobinvestor6930 and incels

@@deadcorpse69 and simps

@@thenoobinvestor6930 where?

@@deadcorpse69it was in response to to ur comment in the context of the main comment so... The comment session

Its sad because although majority of korean women support the ideas of feminism many won't champion these ideas by going to protests and speaking about about feminist issues directly because they don't want to be associated with the crazy feminists. My mom for example agrees with many of their points but won't vocally call herself a feminist

I hope they choose the right representatives and pace according to their context!

It sucks that they still don't get what feminism I'd. There's a huge difference between feminism and misandry.

No, but this is a genius feminist power move. It goes to show how fragile the male ego is

@@ariellekwong206 It's not genius but extremely dumb. Real feminist women are now afraid to even identify with the label feminist because of these radicals as mentioned in the video. This is not a good sign if they want feminism to become mainstream

What is being discussed in this video is indeed "radical feminism" and a modicum of research would find this out, far beyond the third wave feminism as what is known in the West.

There is no moderate feminism. Feminists have always been extremists, feminist groups started as terrorist organization.

I’m curious as to how much of those in this so-called feminist movement have been infiltrated from outside forces with ulterior motives and agendas. It wouldn’t be the first time foreigners use soft power to subtly spread their ideologies, indoctrination, and spark controversy/instability in foreign lands which then leads to societal and real world consequences.

@@uwu_senpai I am stating purely on the definition of feminism, which advocates for equality. There are many genuine ones out there who actually want gender equality, so don’t lump the genuine ones with the radical.

@@uwu_senpai That's ridiculous. Wanting equal voting rights for men and women = feminist, so is wanting women to have the right to work and men the right to raise kids, etc. What is sometimes called "radical feminist" could be more accurately described as anti-feminist and/or anti-male. Feminism is just a weird word. It's a form of egalitarianism that got its name from one of the two. It's not that different from principality & prince and princess. The -ess part is from French (like actress, lioness, etc) and modified the typical word. Feminism just takes female/feminine, but it means "egalitarianism for the sexes/genders".

some men even uploaded a photo of burning irene's photo card lol because she read feminism book

Maybe they are upset because a famous idol is reading a feminist propaganda book and it’s encouraging young women to do they same which is poisoning society. Wasn’t that the girl who was all rude and nasty to her employees? Oppressed my ass that chick is a diva

@@TheKinghanzel yes that book is propaganda and The fact is that the book is the Bible for Korean feminist as well.....

@@TheKinghanzel someone’s mad, lol. You’re being very emotional right now, and we just can’t talk to you while you’re being this way. Come back when you’re ready to have a rational conversation. /s

@@TheKinghanzel "encouraging young women to do the same which is poisoning society" lol are you saying the book will make women think and get their own ideas? can't have women think for themselves or society will collapse lmao /sarcasm

네 아줌마.

@@Ju_Tube23 Sochuu-HANNAM

​@@Ju_Tube23Aunty's not much of an insult to western women.

@@tyerannical3650 그렇구나. 아줌마.

​@@pickyourlikeslulu you literally doing man hate. ewwwwwwwww

Agreed. There’s a HUGE misunderstanding of what feminism means, mostly due to the radical toxic groups.

So basically they’re female incels

There’s no difference in feminism. It’s obviously ruining modern society and if you believe women are more happy now than they were in previous generations because of feminism then more power to the movement. However the statistics show that’s not the case and it’s quite sad men and women are more divided than ever before.

It’s the same argument W0men use against “Not all men” , you say that even if it’s “not all men” , men as a class harm us . Now flip the same “Not all fem1nists are radical”, but those who hurt men are radicals so men too are cautious about it

That's why there's a better word, EGALITARIAN. I get that in countries were women are really underprivileged, feminist should be a thing because, for a lack of better word, they need a lift. But for example, in the US women pretty much are the same under the law. So I don't think there's need for that word anymore because it's when the balance starts tilting instead of balancing.

I heard some of the feminists are already censored, even some LGBT groups were censored today

Not a problem, the CCP wouldn't let an uprising of people, simply not conceivable.

i saw a video in which a chinese women spat on a man in the lift & even threw his food & stamped it :(

@@anushka1223 is it a recent one video or An old one?

@@hillsideonly 3-2 months back

Lol didn't even notice

haha you can see many expensive cars in Korea

@@ttoja1267 In Gangnam mostly

It's 82 :D

@@julien.2573 Thank you for your correction!

@@soggymoggytravels Lol, it has been proven that the book is not based on a true story. Just bunch of sensational stories weaved up to make the society look worse than it actually is. Kim Ji Young is far from being the voice of reason here. If anything, she wouldn't mind worsening the conflict for the sake of her narrative.

​@@davekorus It's clear the KJB book is intended to be fiction and there was plenty of backlash from feminists when it was published in Korea, e.g., Korean IG stars that photographed themselves with the book were cancelled. It weaves statistical data into the narrative in order to point out one scenario for women born in Korea.

@@soggymoggytravels but that's exactly the thing, it shouldnt be used as a showcase scenario for Korean women, because the book is simply exaggerating and blowing things out of proportion.

The flaw in that logic is that it fails to consider how it also might make their points taken less seriously. One bad apple spoils the rest, and then they'll all be bunched together and seen as people with irrational behaviour. It's not a good look. They already ruined the word feminism in the US

I mean a good number of them admitted to/flexed about trying to poison ppl and r*ping young boys but ig go off sis

@@Rustyhound-Cartoons What usually happens in social movements is that the more radical side of a movement helps the more moderate to seem credible for the rest of society. Otherwise those deemed moderate would be seen as radical, since they would be the most revolutionary option. Remember that women asking for the right to vote used to be seen as crazy radical feminists.

Yes there’s radical feminists but I think that everywhere in the world the word "radical" is thrown at everything to try the discredit movements

'When two things used to be normal to women' - yes in the past. Claiming that current generation men should be punished for what the past men did. - definite civilization destroyer. Basic of civilization: only person who did bad thing is punished - not the person's sons.

@@cheerupbaby7792 i hope govenrment. Will make laws. To push all gender for serve military...

@@cheerupbaby7792 shut up, not everything revolves around feminism. The entire world does not share the same privileged lifestyle you do. There is something called the DMZ where an active military is needed to ensure safety against north korea. So what do you say, women should also be required to serve? If you actually decided to read the comment before you, the anger is directed towards feminists who want to abolish military bonuses for these men who serve. Grow up please, your thinking is pretty narrow-minded to say the least. The stance you take reeks of entitlement and ignorance. For you to group so many individuals under this one blanket term of "men" just because of shared biology is also ignorant, what about socioeconomic status, race, education, sexuality, etc? Half this world may be female, but a privileged woman like Kim Kardashian who was born rich will never have to experience a day in the life of the poor, which is why a woman coming from extreme poverty will share much more in common with a man in a similar situation rather than kim to which the only commonality is genitalia. This type of argument you use will never work because you should know by now that plenty of women put down other women. There's even a good chance your own mother is conservative leaning in matters like these.

@@cheerupbaby7792 The point is that women in Korea have more rights than men if anything, so this misandric cult spreading it's tendrils and making things even more unfair is basically rubbing salt in the wound.

@@cheerupbaby7792 bc it's the feminism fault lol they demonize men and its frustrating

@@cheerupbaby7792 lmaoo look at feminism in america

Eunggg!

Very important . Lmaooo

@@ariellekwong206 you are a troll, keep ur toxic childish attitude to yourself

XDDDDD

Not argument for men-hating. Please remember that the real feminism is the belief in the economic, social and political equality between sexes, which aims to stop stereotypes and injustice on the female group. Gender equality is not contradictory with the feminism and if we abandon the word of "feminism" and just use slogans like "rights equity", the very problem of girls will be disguised.

Weird way to frame how the U.S. learns about civil war era history. There's only one correct way to present the civil war era and that is as a complex issue that involves both state rights and human rights issues among other issues. Fortunately, that era ultimately won everyone the same human rights. Unfortunately, it tipped the power of the federal government as more supreme than that of the states. As far as I know, no one has ever been taught that the civil war was *just* about states rights but it does appear as if you think it was *just* about slavery. If something cannot be taught objectively, then it should be taught subjectively. And things that are subjective cannot be considered true until proven objectively. You're basically saying gender and race inequality issues aren't verifiable. I think many are overblown but even I wouldn't go that far. Not sure why you treat "objective" as if it's a bad word. Even more worrying is that you think objective thinking is dangerous thinking. You realize all scientific fields strive to be as objective as possible, right? Do you find science inherently dangerous, too? If a view is objective, it is true whether that view comes from an oppressor or not. You're statement shows you don't even understand what "objective" means. Here: expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations. You really need to do some thinking about how you view the world. You're striking me as someone who thinks they are educated but, in fact, have yet to learn to think critically.

exactly, thank you

@@Haylla2008 Firstly, woah, I was not expecting quite such an aggressive response and I think a few wires have been crossed here. When I was mentioning "objective" - I was meaning in the way it is often used to white wash history and gloss over the very real events/life experiences of the people involved. Secondly, I would never say/insinuate there is no fact based truly objective evidence of gender/race inequalities because that is just factually untrue. In an ideal world "objective" should mean exactly what it does, but it is rarely used in that way when it comes to educating people about "unpleasant" but extremely important history. Especially, considering history is written by the winners. Thirdly, growing up in Texas in the U.S. - yes, a lot of education here (in my experience) about the Civil War paints it in a very specific light as conflict about states rights exclusively. Slavery surely was mentioned, but not being properly represented in the retelling as states rights. Fourthly, I think my view and trust of people in power/or in general is a little more on the pessimistic side, especially when I'm misinterpreted and they seemingly charge in to insult rather than educate/converse, but I am only soo cynical because I expect and hope for better. I have no problem with educating people on the facts, in a lot of cases that exclusively is preferred. Issues as complex as race/gender NEED to be taught with more nuance, because, if we're going just based on facts, racism must have ended the second after the Civil Rights Act (in the eyes of some people.) Which is obviously not true, but this is the kind of misinformation that can come about of maybe-not-so-well-meaning people advocating for exclusively "objective" education. Also, your statement of "fortunately that era ultimately won everyone the same rights," is just "objectively" wrong. I would venture to even say is wholly misinformed. If that were the case then Jim Crow and the Civil Rights Movement would not have existed. I understand feeling passionately, but insults are not necessary and introspection may be. If I am wrong on this I would very much like an explanation as to why I am, sans insults please. Sorry that was a lot to dump but I wanted to make myself clear.

​@@TuxedoMasc "When I was mentioning "objective" - I was meaning in the way it is often used to white wash history and gloss over the very real events/life experiences of the people involved." That would be a subjective interpretation from the people who were in power at the time. If something is objective, it stays objective. You used the wrong word. Fair enough. "Secondly, I would never say/insinuate there is no fact based truly objective evidence of gender/race inequalities because that is just factually untrue." You did insinuate as such but I'll take it as an honest mistake/misspeak. "In an ideal world "objective" should mean exactly what it does, but it is rarely used in that way when it comes to educating people about "unpleasant" but extremely important history. Especially, considering history is written by the winners." No. Objective does mean exactly what it means. History is not an objective field of study. You said it yourself, it's written by the winners which means it is interpreted and sorted by people with a bias and there's no regulation of that bias until you get into the years of peer reviewed papers. It's a subjective field of study with some objective truths (i.e. slavery happened). "Issues as complex as race/gender NEED to be taught with more nuance, because, if we're going just based on facts, racism must have ended the second after the Civil Rights Act (in the eyes of some people.) " You act like race and gender are some unexplored monolith of complexity. They're barely worth studying in the first place but, even when studied, not that difficult to understand. Besides that, there are plenty of *facts* that point to racism not ending after the Civil Rights Act. Be honest (with yourself). You've never heard someone say racism ceased to exist after the Civil Rights Act. What you heard is someone say something along the lines of "we put laws in place to prevent discrimination" and you interpreted that to mean them denying the existence of current day racism. "Also, your statement of "fortunately that era ultimately won everyone the same rights," is just "objectively" wrong." No it isn't. Ultimately. Ultimately. Words are important. I use words the way they are meant to be used. And, really no aggression meant but, you clearly don't. That era and those events had to happen in order for other strides to be made *ultimately*. TLDR; You should have used "subjective" not "objective". Those words don't change meaning just because people misuse them. I imagine we disagree on how important race and gender actually are and almost certainly on whether it should be studied as intently as it is. We can agree to disagree on what an "aggressive response" is. My "insult" was an attempt at evoking introspection on your end. I have a plethora of it myself. No hard feelings. You responded maturely enough, which is more than most people can claim.

@@Haylla2008 I guess we can only agree to disagree. I truly wasn't saying that there is no fact based evidence of discrimination, because there is. And I'm not exactly sure why you don't believe me when I say that, but fine, can't change your perception. I do think think that gender and race are complex issues, the fact that we still have problems with them in almost every society to this day is evidence enough that we still haven't gotten it right after 200,000 years. So, yeah, I think it's kind of important and worth studying. You're use of the word "ultimately" IS incorrect b/c we still don't all have the same rights for everyone yet. So, therefore, wrong. (Though I'm sure you'll argue that's not true.) Also, the "misuse" of words. Firstly, language always involves intent and isn't black and white. I was talking about how people themselves misuse the word "objective." So, I'm not sure why you're (seemingly) willfully misunderstanding me. Secondly, "those words don't change meaning just b/c they misuse them." Language - like race/gender - is complex. This happens, and is well documented, in language all the time. That's how words that originally thought of as nonsense, "irregardless," become part of the dictionary. You are thinking to one dimensionally about language, but I guess that just my opinion. Though I agree in this case it's people, let's say "misrepresenting" the word "objective" rather than misusing. Though I'm sure I give a similar impression, in the regards to believing steadfastly I'm right, you seem to be someone who thinks a very binary and literal way. And I think that thinking doesn't serve well in regards to issues as complex as race/gender or language, but fine. Agree to disagree. Thank you for being civil with me - have a nice day.

Of course they are. US education is not exactly a role model unfortunately.

@@mattm4497 then why the whole world wants to go to us for studies

@@imrjvzoldyk1694 you need to distinguish between the basic, mandatory education on primary and secondary level, which is really really bad in the US and the university level which often is the opposite, as some of the best universities in the world are in the US. The USA is often a country of even "very good" or "very poor".

@@mattm4497 i see

@@mattm4497 Dude, make it even more precise. A handful of universities in the U.S. attract foreign talents. The average immigrant from other nations aren't coming to the U.S. to get schooling from a community college, or a state college. Secondly, if they are, they probably have some sort of guarantee in their country on a job.

Yeah I'm so sick seeing people make fun of each other. why not work together to fix the problem?

@@NurIzzati-yj2jt Exactly, we will achieve so much unitedly rather alone and also govts benefits from our differences, it's like divide and rule.

According to Biology Humans wage war every 7 years. We cant wage physical wars so online war is common.

@@vasdgod according to biology????? whut???

I looked up korean interviews with an influential "feminist" who wrote a book she wrote i believe called Corset, and it's just pure cringe. It's also got a very culty aspect to it, so I really don't get these westerners/koreaboos thinking that everything associated with feminism has to be inherently good.

they'll probably get banned from reporting in china

No. That would be pointless because nobody is allowed to speak freely on that subject in China. The wrong answer can literally get them jailed.

they already did ,just search for it.

@@adlerzwei so you must be the one who get jailed inside of a dungeons for the past 20 years by china huh.

@@YOYO93ism no they haven't.

I used to live in the US, after seeing one of my peers get pressured into a occupation only because she was a female (OBGYN) I started voicing out as a Feminist. However when I came back to Korea, I realized feminisms here that took root are more of that of misandry. Most 'so called' feminists are not voicing out on equality but rather wanting to create a divide and gain privilege's. Unfortunately the true feminists are far low in number for many reasons. (1. Education, most radical feminists don't bother to educate themselves on most topics, its mostly yelling, if you tune in almost any talk or debate you can see that- One reason a public started viewing ALL feminists as idiots) 2. Image- due to the creation of a a radical feminist website all talks were shared within then released into the public. Among such talks were chats between members claiming "I want to stab my father since he's a male" "I scratched our neighbors car because he's a guy" "Wanting to just kill a random boy on the streets" "All males are potential criminals"- Now you see that's where I had to stop my support within Korea. As from those news I realized 'Feminism' doesn't or merely exists in Korea. Mostly angry, people who need society or males to blame cloak themselves in the guise of 'feminism' here. I see a lot of youtube comments hating on Koreans for this issue, but realize this is not a simple case like other parts of the world were 'feminism' is being hunted down for no reason. It's really extreme.

I'm glad we scare you. Continue to be scared.

@@mheekkim2901 They are the true insecure ones.

​@@sisilulu. shes a women, yellow menstruator 😂

Unfortunately, most of the world thinks that way. They think reverse whatever is the only way to go about it.

@@priyankarchakraborty3874 I've also noticed that this has been happening in the African diaspora in the West. It's been getting really intense and vindictive

@@priyankarchakraborty3874 it's cause its the most easiest low effort way to go about it, cause you are not putting up an actual constructive argument rather petty 3rd grade insults to get a reaction, most idiots choose this way because their brain capacity cannot handle anything more.

@@amaan6845 Very accurate.

@@judibon8207 Hmmm. What is unfortunate is that the real issues get drowned in this commotion and rarely gets addressed.

Lolzzzzz😂😂😂😂😂

My first thought too...🌶

For us indians it looked to me as one small peg 🤣🤣

Lol same

I saw a sausage on a grill

If you approve of a feminist logo being one of body shaming and misandry, i guess go off sis

@@thfkmnIII misandry is not real

@@candletabletop154 of course misandry is real what else would you call feminists saying all men are trash , kill all men and all the things like that most young girls now think feminism is hating men but that is called misandry

@@user-lb8sk4kf3o that's called a natural response to something that has always been and always will be a THREAT to us on the basis of our biology. men are not in fear of women. give me a break. especially not in mf asia.

@@candletabletop154 ... Kinda. misandry is not real in the sense. women would need to be in power for the mistreatment of men by women to stop being an individual issue and start being a societal one.

I didn't even know what was wrong with it untill they mentioned it 🤣🤣,.so moral of the story it depends on how you look at it

Ikr, that was ridiculous. It was *their* perspective. Most people didn't see anything wrong with it until they pointed that out. Even if the logo stayed the same, as a girl it wouldn't offend me cause there's nothing to be offended over. Most radical feminists just need a reason to call out men and even women over their conduct for no damn reason.

fr lmao that was so unnecessary. We've got bigger problems in our country and these jobless people waste their time on useless stuff like this. Who even cares.

Lol yeahhhh

It about mentality

radical leftistism is completly imported from the united states those people make actual activicts look bad

@@user-zh3ke3eu3r lots of groups in america have a radical problem, its a hell hole

Exactly. Many cultures worldwide are being destroyed by globalism when Americans are on a slide freefall.

@@agathachris9722 define globalism

Oh stfu. This is a problem they have had for years. Nothing to do with America

Misandry=feminism

@@Danny-ck6iw No

@@viviandarkbloom9232 your entire gender cult would admit otherwise. You all literally say you are misandrist but when someone calls you just that, you all lie about not being misandrist.

Misandry is good. Somebody needs to humble these beasts

@@Danny-ck6iw You guys call anything misandry

Why?😆 Men dont care about u😂

It is definitively a thing ! In online males communities that's one of the most common thing they do. Articles with women barely wearing clothes are often trending and trust me you would feel disgusted reading their comments

Some men do body shame women but I don't think it's ever in public advertisements that everyone can see because that's just going to lose money for the company who put out the ad. Body shaming women has come to a point in society where 99% of people agree that it is horrible. But bodyshaming men is still seen as a funny joke and if men where to speak up about it, they are called "too sensitive". Really just plays into the way that society expects men to be this stable emotionless tree that provides and takes anything positive or negative without any complaint.

Haha there was an online ad that was promoting a product that helps turn the color of female nipples to "pink". I grew up hearing Korean guys say "Black/brown nipples are such a turnoff/ugly." etc 😬

Yea typical men. They always talk degrading about women in their conversations, paint us as sex objects in their music, touch us without our permission, etc. and we're just supposed to sit down and take it. I don't really see a problem with it, and if ppl do have a problem they should just ignore it. You don't see me trying to take out the hip hop industry for basically painting us a sex objects, I just simply ignore it.

@@anm2x Honey have you seen the hip hop industry? they basically indirectly tell women you aren't good enough if you don't have huge boobs, big booty, etc. And not to mention advertisements only praise women with those body types.

The sad truth is that every politician does this, especially in Sweden. So it's difficult to take any of them seriously and yes, it also increases what I think you were suppose to write, hostility.

No one cares. If the other side doesn't comply, what's the point of staying quiet? Act up!

@@ariellekwong206 thats how wars start.

@@Mrgasman1978 good. This patriarchy needs to end sooner rather than later. Let's just get done with it once and for all

@@ariellekwong206 i don't know where you live right now but history should had taught you that fights never estabilish a balance. The winner will just take it all. Besides that, you don't even consider collateral effects of that. Men who are very good husbands, fathers, boyfriends, who will be discriminated as well. You talk about killing mosquitoes with shotguns.

Fr

Problem is that groups like megal became the most influential feminist groups in korea

That is a massive generalization where u have just chosen to focus on the worst ppl. Why would u do that? The same goes for both Feminists & MRA's. Mistrust of some person or group doesn't mean you want to hurt them.

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Short cut is not the essence of the problem.

@@jhs5716 There is the other thing she said about “oh-geok-oh-something.” Do you have any proof that she is a solid radical feminist? And why is it that men all hate the idea of men and women being considered of equal standing?

They're so pathetic 🤣🤣

@@jhs5716 아마 당신은 내 말을 이해하지 못했나 봐요. 그녀가 급진적인 페미니스트라는 증거는 무엇입니까? 그녀가 손팻말을 사용했나요? 🤏🏿 그녀가 페 페미니스트라는 것을 알려주는 말을 특별히 했습니까? 한국 남자는 여자와 남자가 동등한 지위를 갖는 것을 두려워하나요?

@@Starfire10982 Yes, Korean men are those who claim that it is male discrimination to replace water bottles. They don't want women's rights to go up because they think they are being discriminated against more.

@@ee-nk5sl then the feminist must show that those two things are not the same. Yet they keep showing more and more that misandry and feminsim are same thing

@@ee-nk5sl it is the same

@@thenoobinvestor6930 w h a t

@@talkingbushrandom4230?

It sounds like Korean right-ring men’s activists are successfully hijacking and rebranding what feminism is for the less informed masses. Similar hijacking occurs with other social movements. The far right rebranded Black Lives Matter (an anti police brutality movement) as lawless looters; they rebranded democratic socialism (the current systems of Canada and many Northern European countries) as the totalitarian regimes of Soviet Russia. Unfortunately in the US the common person is too uninformed to not fall prey to such tricks.

Fr how are they just going to steal our gang sign like that?

@@Bbbbbbbbbv Lmao 🤣😂😆

@@Bbbbbbbbbv 😭😭🤣

🤣🤣

Finally, a dude that I can stand behind lol

truth hurts lmao

it's the other way around

@@lodz8666 Can you elaborate on how men are being toxic? You know this is a video about women making fun of guys small d**ks right?

@@TheKinghanzel i dont expect him to answer

@@lodz8666 there’s both. Why the need to downplay toxic women? It’s only fair to point them out.

idk it's stupid asf if they think things are gonna get better by calling men "bugs" and trying to brainwash children... they're not feminists they're terrorists and traitors

"Majority of men have affairs" Let me take a wild guess that was from a conversation with girls with no source whatsoever to back up. Basically a delusion at best.

@@shindavid6484 Traitors to who? And the day feminists will actually put up bombs or mass murder sexist men, you can call them terrorists. The audacity lmao

@@davekorus stfu , develop empathy and listen to a woman

@@adeles328 ​ lmao there was a group of feminist teachers discovered that used tactics such as bullying and singling kids out in order to spread their ideologies of men being less than women. if poisoning the youth isn't treason, I don't know what is. do some research before you talk on the matter

This

Lol, misandry was always within feminism

@@shrisiva4016 a trip to the Oxford Dictionary would help

@@minhosdibidibidibdib5433There is a huge disconnect between the dictionary definition of feminism and what feminism actually is in practice.

@@shrisiva4016 "in practise"? And what makes you think what a few white extreme "feminists" say is "feminism in practise"? More than 90% of the women who claim to be feminists only aim at gender equality, and this is coming from a feminist itself. Im not even surprised at you making that generalization because that mindset is exactly what patriarchy supporting communities like MGTOW want to instill in the minds of the people. They want men to fear "Feminism" by branding it a female supremacy movement; quite similar to how western media tried to present BLM as a movement that threatens white people when it was just about racial equality.

Omg 😂😂😂

Knew it was a Tiny d-

I didn't actually but one of the women said 'if they didn't ment that way then why they took it down.' Kinda agree to that also. Feminism was for equality but these type of news make it feel like they wanna oppress men.

and here indians are so proud about koreans. as though they are heavenly angels and wanted to visit their place and grant all support and love to them...k-pop and k-drama are far from reality and they never show and speak this. it's all effect of love(only) yourself....idiotic theme...

I understood as soon as I went to the bathroom and grabbed my sausage with my thumb and index finger. You feel me Kevin? Lol lol

Did reasoning and debating with men every work? Nope. So let the women go crazy, this is just the beginning 😉

@@ariellekwong206 Cry moar pls.

@@swiftkill8254 nope, you 😊

they must have copied you guys

LMAOOO thats exactly what i thought too, i spent hours playing that

never you are a Yakuza lol

Those are radical feminists who fight hate with hate.

Social development by means of disrupt, disharmony between pairs and the perpetual clash of continually invented antagonisms. Yeah, I can see the fruits of such development in America or Canada.

I like and admire Korean society at large but honestly comments like this are starting to get to me. The excessive admiration with vague statements like “developing socially, at light speed” are annoying in how meaningless of a statement it is. In this case social development is entirely subjective and it’s weird to attribute some sort of quality or quantity in which it is “developing”. It reads as if kpop stans are applying the same energy to talk about Korean society at large and that’s generally not the perspective or energy I like to hear applied to countries.

yes Korea developed very fast so there are still few older people who look down on women.

@@chris1z142 I lived in Korea for 14 years. Their society is unique and very non western. Your annoyance is also unique to yourself.

@LV I mean from a Korean perspective, which is often insular, this issue may seem small and unimportant but from a global perspective it reflects larger themes that the rest of the world are coming to terms with currently. This is what I meant. Gender , sexuality, equality etc

100%

I mean it levels the playing field 😂

Ur just not feminist enough

True.

why Korea man is so sensitive about this 👌emoji?lol，Chinese laugh at you，Chinese man dont care this emoji😏

@@khenbornagain because Korean no confidence，Chinese dont care LGBT🏳️‍🌈，they can do anything in legal，Chinese is very confident😎

@@fanyang8533 At this point, I have no idea if he is joking or being serious.....

@@khenbornagain feminism includes all women. trans, lesbian, bi any of the + and of any skin color. feminists who dont see trans women as women are the minority lmao they even have a name TERFS- trans exclusionary radical feminists. plz look up what ur saying before spreading misinformation

@@kiki.m1185 The delusion is real. More feminists would call out the BS TWAW meme if they weren’t threatened with physical violence and getting “cancelled” as a result of acknowledging a biological reality. Inducing fear to get your way is nothing new.

most women dont go through nothing serious

Just fragile men being fragile and emotional.

@@Myumeful feminists : "mEn ShOuLd Be EmOtIoNaL Men : start showing emotions towards their harmful movement Those same idiots : wait not like that 🥺🥺

women there are being oppressed so bad to the point that when they are just fighting for their rights or calling out how problematic some men are, korean men hate it. It's not like korean feminists are hated because of this campaign. They are always hated because they do not want to be oppressed anymore but korean men still want to be superior and exercise their power. This campaign is just wrong but even it doesn't exist, korean men still hate women who do not obey them.

@@Myumeful FYI , just expect to have a revenge , the fate of a woman of a race is invariably tied with the men of the same reason , won’t be long when currently the men in 20s ,30s who are in majority anti fems come in power .

@@Myumeful projecting

Didn’t seem too bright in my opinion.

Other Korean guys who are in marketing have said the exact same thing.

@@kodtldJust bc you disagree with what he said and got mad haha

@@kodtld he seemed very calm, collected, and based in fact.

@@Widen03 Actually it's because he first got insecure and later claimed that the camping ad was made by a "radical feminist"

In many countries women have decided to not get married because too many men still want to push what a woman's role should be instead of treating her like an equal on the relationship

@@exquis_ Equal is a little word that hides so many hazards. Love is such a beautiful fragile, wonderful thing so difficult to happen yet so easy to destroy. I pity all of the young people who will never experience the love between a man and a woman, the love of a family, the joy of having children just because some nasty women poisoned their world with feminist politics. Feminists are destroying society by creating the popular use of concepts such as 'equality' when it actually has no meaning and can never be realised. Are apples equal to oranges? Men and women are different, designed by nature to co-operate for mutual benefit. So many women will only learn that when they are too old to change. It is very sad that the bitterness of feminism has infected so many millions of innocent women.

@@jimmorris8927 can men go back to hunt and leave women alone most time? how far do you want to go back in time

@@jimmorris8927 boohoo 😭 is this supposed to appeal to women? on my country marriage is synonym with mostly women getting killed while in marriage or after divorce so you need to try harder by making marriage appealing 🙃 domestic violence too possessive men are yikes 🤮

@@exquis_ You seem to have the idea that you're progressing but single women were an essential element of the Industrial revolution circa 1800. That's where the term 'spinster' comes from. We've already been through the 'angry women' phenomena here and I can tell you it doesn't work out well for most women. Men get hobbies while women get sick of agreeing with each other.

PERFORMANCE MEN . Hahahah

radical feminist spotted!!!

There’s a lot of toxic women in these comments lol. Kinda ironic

Men: “you’re too fat. You’re talk too much. You’re too intimidating. You don’t smile enough. Your hair is too short. You’d look prettier with more makeup.” Women: *pinch gesture* Men: “HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THAT OUR DINGALINGS ARE SMALL! THIS IS RADICAL! THIS IS DEMEANING! YOU WOMEN ARE OUT OF LINE! MY FEELINGS ARE SOOO HURT😭🤬😭🤬😭”

​@@calypso3928 misandrist feminist spotted

There is always a need for feminism as long as men exist. You guys have a innate need to hurt and disrespect women no matter the country.

@@Acidreflux0000 Are you living in some kind of alternate reality where women never hurt and disrespect men or other women? There is no justification for organized sexism.

@@Acidreflux0000 I am a women 😃 and yes there is no need for feminism cuz women are the one who disrespect men now

@@Acidreflux0000 Parallel universe from 18 century

I learned this too. I can be a good person and want people to have equal opportunity, but not be part of a group. Having the feminist label attracts too many negatives stereotypes made by the vocal toxic minority of feminist.

@@harrywang9375 I agree on this. Just yesterday I saw a video where feminist explain feminism. And their answer are all different. There was one answer saying that its a movement where they make women to have everything they cant while men can. What is that supposed to mean? Also, being equal doesnt always mean the same. We can work in the same place, same position, same boss, same environment, yet if you have a different performance, you'll have a different salary. And is it equal? Is it fair? Yes it is. Men and women are built different, and those differences play a big role in our life. Im all for equal rights & oppurtunity. As long as we put so much effort on what we do, then of course. I dont want to be treated as weak just bcs Im a woman, and Im pretty sure men dont want to be treated a someone who's always strong to the point they cant have emotions. We have to treat each other with full respect. But its a different story if you want to talk abt equal outcome. Since its not always good thing🤷🏻‍♀️

@@migueljuarez6788 exactly. Being a decent human being doesnt require you to be a part of a certain group. Because I believe on characters more. We can think for ourselves. We have full control on our mind and behavior.

@@thiccarmybomb2395 Yea most people are like that. The don't subscribe to a group, but are still decent well meaning people

Koreans are pretty outgoing

The interviews were probably cherry picked, but I'm still impressed with some of the responses.

But South Korea does not seem to be East Asia

@@ppzoe_1228 South Korea is definitely one of the most westernised Asiatic countries. The culture is significantly different to every other country in Asia. Buddhism, Confucianism, and Christianity have all played a big role in shaping this culture which has generally made Koreans act quite respectfully to one another when in person. Of course this also brought many downsides, including the general hiding of emotions. This is one of the main reasons social media is extremely heated in Korea, where people can anonymously vent out their emotions, as the marketing interviewee mentioned. It's an interesting dynamic for sure, and it's not quite for everyone. Korea is still amazing in many regards tho

@@ppzoe_1228 take your geography and cultural studies lessons, kid

the guy did said it wasn't coincidence tho. are we reading the same subs?

@@chubbycheeks2941 tho he did beat around the bush suggesting that the managers and higher ups were not aware.

@@zachariahseed1048 you're right but he's also right not to assume that everyone knew about the gesture

@@chubbycheeks2941 Considering the fixed version of the poster also had a suspicious logo of it's own right, it is definitely suspicious.

Megalian = just radical feminists and exactly actually misandry. You don't need to listen their perspective at all. I am Korean, I was born in Korea, I have grown in Korea, and you can trust me. They are extremely abnormal.

@@user-ku3ez8jd3w Megalia was born out of the still existence of online korean male places spreading hate on women like ilbe and DC galleries. Clearly there's a missing perspective here. Radical feminists only exist because of those men's actions. Maybe put the blame on them first?

@맥치킨모짜렐라 keep fighting! 🙌

Everybody wants to listen to feminisms. But nobody is ready to listen to the mens problem in the society, or even silented and censored by the feminism movements.

@@exquis_ When I saw some of the news about the crimes against women in Korea (molka incidents, so many rape drugging in night clubs, Nth room, those galleries for starters) and how they're handled, I'm not even surprised radical feminists like this start to pop up. They really have to address why this started in the first place.

Exactly what she said at 7:00

It has become more like insulting and making fun of men now....

@@bholuwhoop5944 The radical form maybe, but that is true for any extreme ideology that loses the narrative in exchange for reaction.

Oh dear God it's a campaign. They're controversial to raise awareness and get publicity. Jesus christ.

This could be said about any ideology because the fact is you can never control what people identify themselves by.

@Arsenio Petrus ofc not, justice system should be blind. Everyone, no matter the gender, should be punished accordingly. I'm just talking abt how the justice system in SK turns a blind eye on sexual assault. This happens in other countries as well but since the video is abt south korea thats why i just mentioned SK.

Huh? Men are sentenced far harsher than women and treated worse in the justice system

In my case it shows how patience I have for it.

Based

😂😂😂 fool!

I'm a Korean man. I agree with the search for fair women's rights, but Korean feminism has changed. Now they are busy chasing interests and hate each other. So I need to correct it.

yes they just hate men but feminism just hope equality

There is definitely radical feminism. Megalia (which is the korean website) is a prime example of that

@@ee-nk5sl Maybe because they claimed that they're feminists while being misandrist? Or maybe we can call them misandrist feminist instead of radical feminist. I don't know

That just sounds like a No True Scotsman fallacy

Yaa I totally agree.

😂😂😂

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@@m11nt Oh right, my bad.... I quoted him, but was telling about her 6:00.... Anyways, both were right....

exactly, radical feminists ruin feminism for women that actually want to face real issues

That's what the US is doing to themselves too. Split into two groups (Republicans and Democrats) then let them fight amongst themselves.

Rich white capitalists are the only ones who are winning this game.

Who's winning you say? It' the current ruling party of South Korea- the Democratic Party and the Moon Jae In government. They gained a lot from the divide and conquer tactic.

@@bird42069 please educate yourself about radical feminism before u embarass yourself

But feminism isn’t an inherently radical or dangerous ideology. Feminism: “the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.”

@@lornam1142 나치즘도 "내용"만 보면 나빠 보이지 않아요