The whole point is that he's invincible and yet he always loses, because he stomps people in battle, but he never actually achieves what he sets out to do.
@@LeightonZZ nah his power doesn't work like that even if you stop him from saying anything it still hapen, even if you kill him his power will just bring him back no matter what.
Aizen: I placed a Perfect Hypnosis on you with my sword Kumagawa: What sword? Aizen: The... one in my hand Kumagawa: What hand? You never at any point had a sword. Or hands for that matter
See that would only work if he knew about it beforehand if he pops off that she kind before he knew it then anything and everything he would think would literally be played to eisen's favor because he'd be thinking oh I'm doing this when he's not
@@demnbrown He does know about Aizen lol. He knows that he is in a anime/manga and stated to also know other animes/mangas and actually read some of them
It's a fallacy to say he could make a death god from a different universe just disappear when that same death god has the power to fully destroy said universe multiple times over. AND has a wish granting object in his chest that also says no to universal concepts.
@@elijahwilson8990 Kumagawas ability is full fiction it’s like reality warping he’s the ultimate loser he never wins, but at the same time he never dies. All Fiction messes up your whole concept of reality shifting the future and past to Kumagawas will
@@Stafsx It doesn't matter his feats aren't good in the series and his statements aren't enough to argue he can erase Aizen who's both stronger, instantly illusions him with no need to show his sword, so like what is buddy erasing? illusions, it's just a matter of time for the hogyoku to do its thing.
I have a list of characters from fiction who just can't lose I call it The Hax list it's a short list it only has Ben 10, Darwin from X-Men, Giorno Giovanna, and Popeye, Kumagawa is now going on that list Update: The Hax List has been increased so now it has Ben 10, Darwin from X-Men, Giorno Giovanna, Popeye, Kumagawa, The One Above All, Dr Manhattan, and who ever else can have a case made for them being here 2nd Update: Something I should have stated from the start to be on The Hax List you have to compare the character to the others already on the list and see how they scale and if there was a way they could lose or be killed
Giorno's ability is to defy fate itself by returning things back to zero you can't fight him because you'll always be sent back to a point before you wanted to fight him so no fight has started I don't no man maybe I missed something we only see him for a handful of pages in the Manga and less than 10 minutes in the Anime
Aizen: you fool you killed a innocent person instead of me! Kumagawa: you really should be paying attention because you are already dead from my attack Aizen: what the- *freaking dies*
For those wondering Kumagawa is from Medakas box Gotta add why aizen couldn’t beat em Kumagawa can use his all fiction to make him effectively immortal Also he has a ability called book maker which brings anyone hit from it to his level Kumagawa’s all fiction combined with the fact he knows aizen before hand just speaks for himself If aizen were to win a fight between them it would be if Kumagawa was asleep
@@lordtoomas Honestly the first 2 arcs (the only 2 arcs that were adapted into anime) aren’t very good. It only gets really good after Kumagawa shows up in the 3rd arc since he’s such a good antagonist. Also do note that he’s probably not like what other people might make him out to be. People focus way too much on his introductory scene, which is good, but isn’t the most accurate to how he is like for most of the manga.
Kumagawa can't touch aizen though. Trying to touch aizen=existence erasure. Also aizen is canonically above gremmy. Gremmy basically also has all fiction. He got cut through the chest and immediately healed because he imagined that he never got hurt. He can imagine people out of existence and can create life. He can summon meteors and even put you into the vacuum of space. He can quite literally make your bones cookies. Imagine that the space around you is water. Imagine that his body is impossible to cut. The only reason he died is because he wanted to defeat his opponent with brute force alone. He literally fought one of the strongest characters of all of bleach with no voldstang meaning he could potentially be stronger than he was showcased at.
It's not making imagine come true, it's essentially removing things from existence (even concepts like his own death, but outside end of series he can't even reverse what he has deleted)
@@BenGTheGreatBGTG you don't understand, have you read the manga? if yes, you saw the clock tower arch, in this arch kumagawa creates from his imagination an imaginary sword capable of killing magical beasts, this sword created by him was physical, given that the fandom did not have an explanation of how kumagawa summons his screws they just assumed it was his imagination, not to mention that him has the bookmaker in case you forgot about it (sorry for my bad english)
@@neew7720 from what I remember that was reasoned under another reasoning then all fiction, though I would have to reread to remember what reasoning they specifically gave
But just realized they weren't talking about all fiction in the original comment but still it's not really to the degree the one comment implies according to memory since it's not necessarily an ability creating something but moreso a mental image so strong is can be physically felt/seen or logic like that if I remember right(which can't really recreate special effects/strength)
And also he's aware that he's an anime character and knows everything about every comic book character. He likely already knows what this man is capable of. Kumagawa has this!
Aizen: so you're seeing that you killed me *Kumagawa somehow with a screw in himself* Kumagawa: so you're seeing that I killed me *standing there after "All Fiction" kicked in*
The funny thing is one of his abilities (I don't remember if it his All fiction or Book Eraser) prevents him from dying even if he wants to. A safe mechanism that ironically was created for him to not unalive himself. Like a weapon which shoots ammunition that can kill everything except you even if you try to blow your head off.
I need people to realize that a chunk of Medaka Box characters aren't suited for fights against other verses besides their own. A lot of their abilities are just THAT broken. Like, their powers effects the laws of the universe they're in in their favor.
Literally one character’s abilities is just anti healing, as in she’s able to reopen any injuries a person ever had whether it’s physical or mental. Another can push away any and all damage inflicted upon him instantly and without thought. And don’t even get me started on the person who gave Kumagawa his abilities
I've never seen the anime Kumagawa is from but from what I just heard he's literally that kid on the playground who'd say things like "Nuh-uh I have a forcefield" or "That didn't happen cause I dodged" when you'd play pretend with them
As long as Aizen doesn't explain his powers, he can win. You are under the hypnosis without even knowing it. The moment you make him aware of the power it's over.
@@blackmark2899 kumagawa reads bleach in the manga and anime also No this guy explained his ability badly all fiction can erase things up to a 4D scale if he erases something it never existed in the first place all he needs to do is think and it it’s gone he can also bring things he erases back with Non-Fiction with bookmaker he drags his opponent down to his level by putting a screw he creates in them also causes them to have depression and can only be beaten through will power and imagination manifestation which aloud him to make an imaginary sword that could defeat magic beasts and his giant screws as his weapons which can be anywhere including inside of his opponents body
Don't forget the fact Kumagawa would know who Aizen is and would know his powers because the manga probably exists since Kumagawa has referenced other series.
@@DashBolt Um, no it wouldn't. RTZ only activates to attacks solely directed towards it. And even if he did say that, RTZ will be erased, from the past present and future. It will have never existed. RTZ is strong yeah, but it isn't immune to conceptual manipulation and erasure on any level.
@@etnaD- did you even watch the show? Temporal erasure is literally what Giorno was up against, and he just said no. And besides, no one ever said that it had anything to do with actual attacks. Anything that counts as an attack, which includes using Kamagawa's powers
For those wondering, his power is all fiction. He can basically take concepts out of existence. In one case he took the concept of him losing out of existence.
@@masterbait7251 funny cuz madaka from the same anime as kumagawa has plot armour as an ability to , to the point that a nigh omnipotent being admitted that she can’t beat her cuz she has *main character states* and the only way even medaka beat kumagawa was cuz he *WILLINGLY* gave up all fiction temporarily even then he ran her fade till she got ultra plot armour to beat him Oh forgot to say , yeah that nigh omnipotent being I just mentioned was defeated and sealed by kumagawa And we’re not even taking about his book of end nor non fiction yet Yeah he’s JUST *THAT* broken
Medaka box, but you have to read the manga since the anime only has one season I think, and just to let you know beforehand, kuwagawa is not the main character
How would that even work when he would know everything about him already all he has to do is read bleach and then there's nothing he can surprise him with
He already knows how his powers work how would aizen make him think his powers work differently plus he already knows aizen's character and the basis of his entire being he just simply thinks of aizen and ever being erased and then it's done
I'd like to add something, kumagawa's powers are extremely fickle, so he's cosntantly being careful because he could just wipe oit everything including himself at any moment. I'm not sure how much this would come into play here, but it is always important to remember when talking about kumagawa.
@@kobayashiajimu4747 he can but its stated if hes far away from his creations for some time they go back to not existing but still pretty busted anyways he could also copy any power with it if he just lets say made a weapon with those powers properties with his imagination like that one time he made a sword that kills magical beings in one hit the only reason it didnt work on the being is because the said person made it up and its imaginary lol
no, god in disguise is Anshin'in (also from Medaka Box.) she has 12'000'000'000'000'000 different powers, and she is older than the observable universe.
@@dray_20 Antispiral is definitely not omnipotent and he isn’t shown to be able resist existence erasure, but it is possible for him to use multiverse labyrinth to trap Kumagawa’s consciousness. This makes it difficult to say who would win in a situation like this.
Now this fight is actually not that easy. Because Kumagawa needs to react to activate his power. If Aizen, who could move light speed, killed Kumagawa before he could do anything. Then it’s done, cause Kumagawa maybe able to undo his death, he has to consciously do it. That’s how his power got sealed. Not to mention, yes he could undo his death or other peoples powers. He would need to SEE aizen to know he was there. Even with meta awareness he can’t actually know he’s there
I mean yes he really could see if he was there he's not simultaneously in another dimension or something like that anyone with spiritual awareness or enough spiritual prowess would be able to see him
How can he kill him when he can undo his death and on top of that there would be at no point that he could get to drop on him considering he could know everything about the first he's from every ability he has and how he fights so what makes you think he'll be able to blitz him
Kumagawa,sponge bob,bugs bunny ,alien x , prime superboy,the darkest knight, and rimeru tempest I’m not 100 percent sure but these characters are omnipotent and cannnot be beat
@@admiraljaded9575 ln vamp hunter d can just say no to you existing on a conceptual level. Can hit you from anywhere no matter distance. And nullifys immortality and regen like doom guy. Unless you're a literal joke like popeye or spongebob or bugs bunny. But remiru. Anos. Their dying
@@theauditor3224 could you go into detail into how rimeru could lose because light novel rimeru Can create and destroy multiple universes within seconds And I don’t even know if Anos has even ever tried
You can argue either side could win bc we know that aizen is atleast 4D. And if he is In a higher dimensional level then him then his ability won't work on aizen
I was about to say this battle is one-sided, because ain’t that the same guy that reads every single manga to be up to date on everything about the characters, the show the powers
This is why Kumagawa is straight up built different, mf is practically the author of every anime in existence in a verse battle, the only way you can win is to beat him psychologically or metaphorically, even you'd still get your cheeks kicked by him
