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Late Medieval and Reformation Heresies (Intro to Trinitarian Theology) 

Dr. Jordan B Cooper
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This is part of our overview of Trinitarian heresies. In this video, I discuss the late middle ages and heresies which appear during the time of the Reformation.

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@williampeters9838
@williampeters9838 Год назад
Dr. Cooper, I really appreciate all of the work you put into these presentations (especially the slides). Your videos have been really helpful to me in pushing me towards a more sacramental church like Lutheran or Anglican. I just wanted to encourage you that the fruits of your labors are more than theology nerds being edified. Your videos have had very real and concrete effects in my walk with God as I’m sure they have had with many others. Prayers from Richmond, VA!
@maxonmendel5757
@maxonmendel5757 Год назад
hey im from Fredericksburg! Dr Cooper does definitely help those of us still seeking
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 месяцев назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 месяцев назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . : ) :) .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 месяцев назад
@@maxonmendel5757🦙
@maxonmendel5757
@maxonmendel5757 11 месяцев назад
@@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool whats wrong with invoking departed saints? are they alive or dead? dont we Christians believe that departed saints are alive in Christ and share fellowship with Him even now? So if they are with Jesus, and we can be united with Jesus, where is the barrier between my spirit and the spirit of a departed saint? we are all one body, arent we?
@writerblocks9553
@writerblocks9553 Год назад
The maniches (I’m sure I’m spelling that incorrectly) almost sounds gnostic with the idea that the physical world is evil, when God said he creation was good. Not saying it is gnostic, just sounds like there are some parallels. Probably created by the difficulty with reconciling the character of the ‘God of the OT and the NT’ which is, in fact, the same God.
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve Год назад
The dualism of the Manichees can almost certainly trace some of its ideas back to Zoroastrianism, the religion of ancient Iran. The prophet Zoroaster taught that there are two gods, one good and one evil. In his teaching it was the good god who created the material universe. Gnostics picked up some of these ideas, but one big change was that they believed it was the evil god who created the material universe.
@Holy.Spirit
@Holy.Spirit Год назад
im just another guy talking, but we know of course of theologians who had put in the work, so we can solve some of the mysteries of our great LORD. its kinda weird seeing you put in all this work, its like maybe we are seeing it in real time. You are working really hard, and you are very studious and blessed by the Spirit. amazing Dr Cooper.
@EvanHuber-mi6dn
@EvanHuber-mi6dn 2 месяца назад
Meanwhile, The independent Baptists will look at all these guys and say “ These guys are our spiritual forefathers”.
@DrGero15
@DrGero15 3 месяца назад
Do you have these type of videos for other types of heresies? What about modern heresies?
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Год назад
Very educational!
@mega_mind397
@mega_mind397 Год назад
Common Jordan Cooper W
@derrickbonsell
@derrickbonsell 2 месяца назад
Bosnia actually had a large Bogomil presence into the time of the Ottoman conquest. It's believed that the Bogomils are one reason why Bosnia developed a Muslim majority, the population was already primed to accept Muslim claims.
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve Год назад
To be fair, the Mennonites don't believe in Menno Simon's doctrine of Christ's heavenly flesh. The problem with such a doctrine is that it makes Jesus the sole member of a separate human race, rather than a member of our race--which thus makes Him unable to save us, as He would then not be a descendant of Adam and could not undo Adam's sin. One needs to keep in mind the saying by St. Gregory Nazianzus in his 101st epistle that "whatever Christ did not assume is not redeemed." Jesus avoided inheriting Adam's sin by His Virgin Birth--that's the whole point of the Virgin Birth. I think I would avoid calling Adam Pastor's followers "Adamites." There were several groups throughout history called Adamites, and they had nothing to do with Adam Pastor. They practiced nudism in the hope that by acting the way Adam and Eve did before the Fall, they could undo the effects of the Fall. (Yeah--that really didn't work out.)
@dvinb
@dvinb Год назад
If the Blessed Virgin wasn’t immaculately conceived, thus free from sin, how could Christ, who took His flesh from Her be sinless? You either have to accept the Eastern concept of ancestral sin or the immaculate coneption
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve Год назад
@@dvinb Your argument is nonsensical, as is the doctrine of the immaculate conception of Mary. If God was willing to preserve Mary from inheriting sin from her parents simply by saying the word, then why couldn't He have done so with Jesus as well? What then would be the point of His virgin birth?
@dvinb
@dvinb Год назад
Luther believed in the Immaculate Conception, atleast in his earlier years. I‘m just asking, how can Christ have sinless flesh, if He received His flesh from another sinful flesh, what is the mechanism behind preventing the sinfulness of His flesh and what is the scriptural, patristic or philosophical basis for the belief in a mechanism which can remove the stain of original sin?
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve Год назад
The Amish are a subset of the Mennonites. All Amish are Mennonites, but not all (or even most) Mennonites are Amish. The differences between the Amish and the other Mennonites are not theological, but rather about culture and how they conduct their day-to-day lives, with the Amish being more separated from the outside world than are the other Mennonites, especially in terms of things like the use of technology. The Amish are a very factious bunch, with new denominations forming all the time over such issues as how broad the brim of a man's hat is allowed to be.
@gagegarlinghouse258
@gagegarlinghouse258 11 месяцев назад
It's also worth noting that Barlaam accused the Hesychasts of being Bogomils.
@paulblase3955
@paulblase3955 11 месяцев назад
I answer some theological questions on Quora and I run into what sure seem like Bogomils all the time. Deny the Trinity, hate the established church, and even that Michael was Jesus. What goes around comes around, I guess.
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 месяцев назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . : ) :)
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 месяцев назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 . . .
@magpiecity
@magpiecity 11 месяцев назад
I think the Christadelphians have a Christology similar to that of Pastor.
@pennsylvaniafellow4409
@pennsylvaniafellow4409 Год назад
So called Pastor Adam Pastor. Mr. Pastor even. The Honorable Pastor Pastor? The Excommunicated Pastor Pastor.
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 месяцев назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 . . .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 месяцев назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . : ) :) .
@solafidedeum
@solafidedeum Год назад
🕆 1 Timothy 6:11-12 But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, and gentleness. Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called and about which you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.🕆 Let the Holy Spirit guide you this week according to these 2 verses from the bible, Let God’s Peace and Grace be with you (To The Reader). Praise God always. Amen.,. 🕆🙏🙌
@jimluebke3869
@jimluebke3869 11 месяцев назад
I've heard that Adamites went extinct because of their rigorous dress code, and the cold climate of the mountains they lived in. They believed that their redemption had returned them to a state of Edenic innocence, therefore clothes were sinful.
@magpiecity
@magpiecity 11 месяцев назад
Weren't these a 15th century break away faction from the Hussites?
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 месяцев назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 :) . .
@FearAndTrembling
@FearAndTrembling Год назад
Is right Christianity opposed to all dualism? I think yes.
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve Год назад
Opposed to dualism in a metaphysical sense? Yes, as Christianity teaches there is only one God. In regard to the day-to-day battle between good and evil that we're all living through, Christian teaching is more dualistic (in a pragmatic sense) than most people realize.
@FearAndTrembling
@FearAndTrembling Год назад
@@bigscarysteve I think I'm cool with a pragmatic dualism. It's the metaphysical one that I'm skeptical about.
@DrMJS
@DrMJS Год назад
Nobody expects the (Spanish) Inquisition!
@sterlingpratt5802
@sterlingpratt5802 Год назад
Woohoo! Bogomils!
@Catholic-Perennialist
@Catholic-Perennialist Год назад
Notice that the moment the laity are given the Bible they resurrect every heresy of late antiquity. Either the laity aren't supposed to have Bibles, or there really is no scriptural basis for orthodoxy.
@carlh7714
@carlh7714 Год назад
Your first conclusions make sense, historically, since these aren't laity coming up with the heresies. There is also no Scriptural basis for drawing such a conclusion. Your second conclusion is...nonesensical. You are essentially saying that the Bible doesn't teach that people should follow the Bible rightly. How about a third conclusion. There are evil people and the devil is quite good at twisting Scripture. That seems both Scripturally and historically sound.
@Catholic-Perennialist
@Catholic-Perennialist Год назад
@@carlh7714 "My Father is greater than I." So you think that only "evil" people read the statement above and reject orthodoxy? Do you think this is the only place Christ is demoted? Do you really think that the New Testament contains only one Christology?
@carlh7714
@carlh7714 Год назад
@@Catholic-Perennialist I'm not sure what you're asking. I'm not sure if it's actually related to my comment, either. The only thing I can think is that my use of the word "evil" through you off. Since the fall, all humans are naturally enemies of God and do evil things (because we're evil by nature). Just read "evil" as equivalent to "fallen". Evil people twist Scripture. Demoted? Not sure what you mean by that. If Jesus (who was in a state of humiliation at the time He spoke this) says His Father (who was not in a state of humiliation) is greater than Him...is that somehow a controversy? I'm not sure if you're claiming that this statement is somehow Jesus saying that He's not God (which is heresy and obviously so based on the text of Scripture). I'm fairly sure you are claiming that there are multiple Christologies in Scripture, which probably means you need to review Cooper's Christology-related videos. There is one Christology, but people who miss the whole "God incarnate" bit tend to get confused and think there are multiple.
@Catholic-Perennialist
@Catholic-Perennialist Год назад
@@carlh7714 There are multiple christologies in the New Testament, but you use hermeneutics like a steam roller to crush all of scripture into the simplistic box of orthodoxy. Peter's first sermon was adoptionist.
@carlh7714
@carlh7714 Год назад
@@Catholic-Perennialist It's more so that we try not to pit God's word against itself because we know He's not lying to us, so we look at things like context.
@SojournerDidimus
@SojournerDidimus 11 месяцев назад
Lots of Gnosticism in this episode.
@mysticmouse7261
@mysticmouse7261 Год назад
Bogusmils
@SammyJ..
@SammyJ.. Год назад
Sola fide, sola scriptura… oh sorry, you only meant Trinitarian heresies? My bad!
@carlh7714
@carlh7714 Год назад
Those aren't heresies, bud; they are linguistic clarifications that avoid heresies.
@pete3397
@pete3397 Год назад
So, what you're saying is that St. Paul is a heretic since he clearly says justification is by faith and that Scripture is the source for doctrine. Unless you mean Rome's errors with respect to Paul's doctrinal teachings?
@electric336
@electric336 Год назад
The early church fathers disagree with you, Sammy.
@bradenglass4753
@bradenglass4753 Год назад
Roman "christians" pretending to understand heresies, very amusing LOL
@SammyJ..
@SammyJ.. Год назад
@@bradenglass4753 Not as amusing as Protestants, who follow a religion invented 15 centuries after Christ, making themselves judges of who is a Christian.
@donatist59
@donatist59 7 месяцев назад
BOGOmils: Buy One Get 1,000.
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