@@shirothr5384 you've got a point there, Road Runner and the Three Stooges were creative and funny. The writers of Madame Web never had an original thought in their lives.
@@alihosseinzadeh6020 Yeah, but like every other villain has that for some reason so high speed, durability, and strength doesn't really mean much after that.
I bought tickets for this movie last night. Almost every seat in the theater was taken, and it has a capacity of about 75. When I walked in the movie theater it was packed full of Spider-Man fan boys and nerds. The film starts, and about 10 minutes into the actual movie, 30 people walk out. And throughout the span of the movie, me and 4 others were the only ones who stayed for the rest of the movie. Madame Web really isn’t as bad as you heard guys, it’s so much worse.
It really surprises me that people will have the confidence to buy a ticket for a modern movie and walk in with ZERO knowledge or seeing what the vibe is. Back when movies were consistently good sure maybe, but past few years have been a minefield of hot trash with some gems in between.
I am just wondering how many relationships ended because guys made the stupid decision to bring their gf/wives to see this awful movie on Valentines Day.
My personal favorite nickpick is how Dakota Johnson kidnaps the girls, leaves them in the woods for 3 hours, then by the time she’s back, someone in the diner already has a newspaper about the kidnapping. How did all of that happen so quickly especially in 2003
Can we mention that in the same general sequence, the same song is shown playing both at the diner and on the taxi radio which is a 30 minute walk away, and is still playing when Cassie gets to the diner? Not only this but Ezekiel gets to the diner after her when she walks in the vision, but before her when she drives there. The entire thing is a hot mess.
An even worse example of how much thought was put into this movie is how is Casey able to book a plane ticket to Peru, in New York, while being wanted by the police for an alleged kidnapping AND while evil guy has her face and can track her every move.
Also this was set in like 2003, 2 years after 9/11. I was just born but my parents will tell you it was a NIGHTMARE traveling then even when you’re not wanted for… ya
Remember when right after her EMT friend died in the car accident (which she clearly grieved hard over) she was in her apt and realized she “saved” the bird who flew into the window by replaying the event and opened the window so it just flew in? It randomly cuts to her in a train station (where she meets the other protagonists, who all just so happen to be in the same place while the villain is looking for them 3 specifically) maybe implying that she was going to his funeral to try and replay the event to save him (?) but suddenly just forgets about her dead EMT friend after seeing the girls and it’s literally never mentioned again, not even by Ben when she sees him later…
Here are some things I noted seeing this trainwreck. 1.) if you are gonna pull the plates off a taxi, Don't just fucking leave them on the ground. 2.)And why would you remove the fucking tags in the first place the god damn tag is the actual taxi number that is all over the fucking car anyway. 3.)Can anybody explain why a Pepsi-Cola factory down at the docks in Queens New York was just filled to the rafters with fireworks? The fuck are you putting in those pepsi cans? Grenades? 4.) Dude. Why the fuck would you JUMP INTO the Ambulance barreling at you. like just duck???
Having Morbius and Madame Web next to each other in your resume must have the power to instantly blind whoever is reading it when trying to hire you. Back to back legendary stinkers
The funniest part is the CPR scene. she literally is tapping on his chest when she’s supposed to be pressing hard enough to literally break his rib cage
You failed to mention how the villain’s voice hardly ever matched his lips. It’s almost like they scratched 80% of his lines and had him just voice over everything.
Hollywood films are lazy af. WWZ had that problem too. Rewrites cost a lot of money. Especially if you rewrite the entire damn movie. If you have to rewrite an entire movie, that's probably saying that you shouldn't be making it. And no one wants to see embarrassing dubbing.
Thats actually par for the course for Hollywood, almost no audio from set is ever used. However I think that actually speaks to your point more, they literally couldn’t be bothered to match up his dialogue like every other movie in existence.
Very few people in Hollywood and the movie scene in general are actually hired for their talent. It is the second most corrupt place in the world, second only to the Congress.
One thing that annoyed me is how long it takes to establish that it’s 2003. First I saw the phone and thought that was weird, then I saw the Beyoncé Dangerously in Love then of course Toxic, but they didn’t really do the “show don’t tell” very well. You establish a time period early in the film.
Hollywood just needs to learn that reshoots are rarely a cost effective way of improving a film. Spend a bit longer in preproduction and writing and trust your directors and you will get better movies.
The true mystery here is how the hell the writers from Morbius got to write another movie. I want whatever dirt they have on Sony to keep getting hired.
What's funny is that they didn't do that because they knew it would flop like we all knew it would it was because they at first tried making it a movie tied to Spider-Man but than realized how tf can they do that if they have a young May and Ben Parker which means he isn't even born yet. So they just ended up making it it's own thing because they didn't even plan it properly until late in the production process, that's the type of skill they have at Sony studios I really want to know how tf they ever made good Spider-Man movies without Kevin Feige helping them out.
I bet you someone did a "bribe" for this movie to happen but the Sony investors weren't satisfied enough That they just gave that certain person a bare minimum
I fell asleep towards the end of the movie. I woke up after she got blind. I asked my girl, "did she get blind?" she was like "I'm not sure, I fell asleep too"
Dakota Johnson switched agencies after signing on for this film and when it was announced she was cast in this movie, she and the other leads tagged Marvel Studios on Twitter instead of Sony. So the speculation is that she thought she had signed on to a Marvel Studios movie. When she realized it was not a Marvel Studios movie but a Sony movie, she got mad at fired her agency. Which is hilarious if that’s true.
that funny, she probably didnt even bother reading the script up until the first day of filming. i knew this film was going to flop since i though it was going to be a series or something since madame web was always use as a plot device for spiderman. without spiderman she just a senile old woman lol. as a series it could work if they pace it better or make it into a murder mystery and by the end of the series she finally assume the role of madame web.
It’s horrible. They snubbed my name from the credits. I was one of the Production Assistants from the entirety of principle photography and they ended up not crediting half of us. I’m still on IMDB but it was very upsetting after learning my name was snubbed
Only half ironically speaking here but man, do you really want your name attached to this one? The guys putting the credits together might've just done you a favor.
No, it makes total sense why Cassandra didn't want the responsibility of saving the three girls. The whole point of her character is that she's cold and awkward, even at the beginning as a paramedic because she never could understand why her mother seemingly abandoned her and grew up in the foster care system. When she understood her past, her mother and where she came from, she could learn to make peace and forgive. Finally, she stepped into her protector role fully. It's the antithesis of Spider-Man, not that with great power comes great responsibility but that with great responsibility comes great power. She grew into her powers and they developped the more responsibility she agrees to take on, the more lives she wishes to change.
That’s true, but the movie was rushed, there were a lot of plotholes and a lot of illogical things, feels bad since the actors aren’t bad and could’ve definitely made a better film with a normal script
Also another bit. I can’t stand superhero movies using the retro motif, without even taking advantage of it. Captain Marvel was in 1995 and this one was in 2003; yet neither looked or felt like a throwback at all. There were only a handful of scenes that mildly depicted the time. But as someone who was a child of the late 90’s and early 2000’s, that wasn’t how people looked, dressed or talked. Yes they couldn’t get all the major icons due to licensing, but you can tell they didn’t try.
It amazes me how some producers and directors get handed 100 million dollar projects, fumble them spectacularly multiple times and just... get more jobs?
"why even make it" I'm convinced that the only way Sony can hold the rights to Spider-Man's IP is they have to at least put out a spider-man related movie every few years
Again Charlie mentioned it but it seemed like a lot was taken from the film,which tracks as Morbius also had a lot of stuff taken away from the original product.Idk Sony is like the little annoying brother of Marvel,they want to be a part of The Mcu so bad but doesn't want Disney to buy them,so I guess these movies are just there version of having a tantrum.
Almost the common thing said when bringing up the writers credits: Dracula Untold: "Oh God!" The Last Witch Hunter: "Oh Godddd!!!" Gods od Egypt: "Oh Godddddddd!!!!!!" Power Rangers: "Oh Go.....wait that one is actually ok." Morbius: "......Oh Goddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!"
One of the craziest things about this movie was Sonys attempt to stealth birth Peter Parker in this movie. There is an entire subplot where they have to drive a pregnant woman to the hospital, and you dont learn this woman is Mary Parker before you see her name in the credits. Nowhere in the movie do they say the babys name is Peter or that her last name is "Parker". You also learn that Webs nurse friend "Ben" is actually uncle ben in the credits.
Craziest thing is they think we'd wait for end credits to roll. I dont even go to the cinema anymore lmao, and at home ofc im going to close the movie before the 10 mins scrolling of irrelevant mf's names. Im not waiting for Hulk to lift a rock in the post cred scene or wtvr the fck
madame spider is supposed to be Spider-Man’s mentor; and old this movie fucked over the entire concept lmao.the fact that they said fuck the concept and fuck over a minor character with big impact is crazy.
Im like 90% sure that her name was mentioned at least once in the movie, so with that and from Ben referring to her as his sister in law is where you have to piece together that the baby is Peter Parker. Regardless though it definitely was stealthed
The reason why Power Rangers ended up 'decent' is because the two goobers didn't write the screenplay they only 'contributed' to the story which might have actually lowered quality let's be honest.
@@hotheadtxtHollywood keeps making popular ip based shows where showrunners say they don't read/like the said ip. Nothing has made sense in a long time.
The writers truly have no imagination with the villain. Spiderman when he's no longer playing with kid gloves is a truly terrifying figure. His strength shatters bones, his agility evades all obstacles and his speed is a death sentence at close range. Combined with his precognition he is a tough foe to fight. The fact that they don't funnel even a fraction of this into simms' character is sad.
He technically showed some level of strength and speed like where he sent Madame Web like 3 meters away with a punch or him overpowering and tossing cops like they were ragdolls and also him dodging knife swings but to be fair these things are literally nothing compared to any version of Spiderman, hell MCU Cap has done better stuff. Main villain outside of his venom thing is literally evil Spiderman but 100 times weaker
The fact that Madam Web literally jokes with Ben’s inevitable death and even tells him how it’s gonna happen is wild. And then ruining the iconic phrase of power and responsibility.
Because they do what the studio tells them to. Seriously...that's the reason they were hired. So when the Sony execs give them some ridiculous idea like the post-credit scene of Morbius and tell them to add it, there's no argument. It's just "Yes, boss...right on it." These two writers are puppets.
Ironically that Pepsi sign is where I took my prom pictures in Long Island City lol. It’s a beautiful park now called Gantry State Plaza but back in 03 it wasn’t really much. Just the piers
Idk if it was just the theater I was at but it seemed like the dialog audio was completely out of sync fir most of the movie, to the point I thought the villain had been dubbed over by someone else. Also did anyone else notice the weird bass sounds? In the opening scene he opens the umbrella and there's a random 808 boom sound. Also thought the digital zooms and jump cuts were atrocious, any editor off fiver could do better
Starting to agree with an old movie called "The Producers". In it the producers were intentionally making "high budget" bad movies to commit tax fraud when they claim the loss.
There were too many times where ezikiel the spider guy would be wearing his mask one scene and then a few frames later the lenzes of the mask are gone or the entire mask is just off out of no where
@BruhMoment-ct5ij That's what evil spider guy said before he saw Madame web getting ready to unleash her mega web attack and then she Madame webs all over the place
With the way this movie looks I imagine they thought about shelving it for a tax break, but probably just banked on the idea that spiderman fans will eat up anything.
Doesn't surprise me at all actually. A lot of hot garbage gets pushed out. And never once do they think that the shit is bad. Look at morbius............
I feel like the big problem with this movie is how much it fumbled an actually pretty interesting concept. Like in the hands like someone like Christopher Nolan, the idea of a person with premonition having to actively see horrible things happen and feel powerless to stop it, would be absolutely amazing, but I am CONVINCED that chat gpt wrote this because no human could write a movie that delivers like a Dhar Mann video 😭
Arrival has a similar plot idea, woman can see the future, can't change it because it's retroactive and has to accept it and enjoy what she can before tragedy comes
My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone. Then died by fricking ambulance
I think one of the perhaps more small frustrations I have is, can we get a movie with a good depiction of a paramedic? Captain Philips scene with the medic is one of the best out there, and the English show sirens is decent but man anything mainstream with a main character medic is usually very rough.
it's like the writers saw what happened with morbius and thought making another bad movie would make people go watch it just for the memes again, but this one is so bad it's not even worth making jokes about it
The problem is people didn't even see Morbius, they just memed it sight unseen - Sony even re-released Morbius to theaters for the very reason you mentioned, thinking to ride the memes into a second chance at the box office, with the result of Morbius being probably the only movie in history to bomb twice
@@AttentionDeficitGuyit hilarious that it bombed twice. And their take away from this was to make another spiderless movie with the Morbius writers.. Wow
According to Sony, they wanted Andrew Garfield to make a cameo and establish him as him (and his movies) as this universes spiderman, but they decided against it for creative reasons (they thought they wanted tom instead or wanted to keep it self contained, one of the two). I'm pretty sure in actuality, Andrew kept saying no over and over while Sony were on their hands and knees begging for him, and this was their excuse as to why it didn't work out.
Andrew Garfield probably read the script and knew it was total garbage. 😂😅 His spider sense told him to stay away from this radioactive waste of a movie. 🤣
It's almost inspiring how Avi Arad and Amy Pascal are faithfully committed to this fool's errand of a Spider-Man cinematic universe without Spider-Man. My own parents don't believe in me nearly that much.
@@user-ws1hy5tv6r I think they just have the money to attach their name to every spider-man project that comes out so when one (rarely) succeeds they can be like LOOK GUYS WE DID GOOD
That doesn't even make any fucking sense either. Why would power come *after* responsibility, when the actual line says that you have to be responsible *because* of that power? Like, what would you be responsible for if you don't already have power? It's just stupid.
I swear one of the weirdest things of the movie I noticed is that the villain’s voice seems dubbed over a lot but not even trying to sync it up at all, there are times he is ‘speaking’ but his lips aren’t even moving
Damn it’s crazy, I remember I was in highschool watching your “fallout new Vegas unique weapons” now here I am years later watching a video of you talking about movies. “Basically I had to lick the sweat off a turkeys ball sack” 😂 “call me the nipples of the north” good times 😂
*The writers be like " I want my mc to be able to fly and bam!! A space cow suddenly appears in front of him and grants him the power to fly for no appearant goddamn reason"* *peace*
My favorite part of Madame Webb is when she says "It's webbin' time" and webbs all over her enemies. (Eh, doesn't really have the same ring to it as "It's morbin' time")
And here I was thinking the answer was to constantly improve my portfolio and fundamental art skills, when clearly the answer was to go to more LA conventions and hope one of the friends I make there are capable of getting me a job at Disney.
@@triipppzzz It's basically the only way in, but you also have to be willing to make mindless schlock made for nothing else but pushing a political narrative.
My favorite little tidbit is that the movie takes place TWO YEARS after 9/11, so transportation security should be TIGHT, so her going to Peru is funny to think about, like she managed to get onto a plane during that time
I unfortunately watched it on Saturday and let me tell you that the worst part of it all was when the people started to clap at the end of the movie. I was BAFFLED, I honestly thought I was in an altered dimension, I could not understand how a human being would be able to enjoy this movie
Mary: Ben is going to love being an uncle, because it's all the fun and none of the responsibility." Cassie: That's what he thinks. Why did they think this was clever?
i guess it is worse than Mobius bc at least with Morbius i laughed bc certain scenes were genuinely funny and the movie was pretty aware of that, but with madame web you can see that the movie is serious about itself all the time and unaware of how stupidly horrible it is and i laughed out of second hand embarrassment and nothing more
@@GloomyNateit's crazy I remember being so hyped for infinity and endgame, I had posters and shit, all my friends were hyped even ones who aren't nerdy. Now all superhero stuff coming out is just boring or straight up cringe. Feels like the genre has been killed by literally years of shitty movies/shows and even games.
I remember a part in the trailer when Ezekiel entered the diner and pulled out a hat and cane before bursting into singing "Hello my baby, hello my honey...." Michigan Frog style. Got literal goosebumps.
I can only assume this was some kind of property retention minimum effort. Supposedly Sony has to put out movies for the Marvel IP they still have every so often otherwise something happens with the rights.
