Magic Player Tries To Rate INSANE Hearthstone Cards w/ CovertGoBlue 

Rarran: "i can promise you there is not really a middle ground" 1st card is Gnomeferatu 💀

I personally believe Ragnaros his voice lines also contributed greatly to its popularity. The whole, "by fire be purged!" Followed by, "die insect!" definitely left a mark.

Rarran: all cards are either bad or good, there is no middle ground Also Rarran for the whole video: this card wasn't meta defining but it saw some play

The card that's killed the most players in Hearthstone history? No way it's Shudder; it's probably Leeroy.

In HS the card that killed the most people was 4 mana Leeroy. That dude was a menace especially with Rogue.

Loved Covert almost guessing Nat Pagle's voice line word for word

16:38 for sure Leeroy, he is literally a neutral finisher that was there from Classic

5:52 to be more specific, Tickatus was played specifically because it allows warlock to auto win in any control matchup, and it was pretty much trash in any other matchup. I remember playing control priest in that era and facing warlock was just miserable. So in a way I'd say Tickatus was a significant part of that deck.

To his defense, Orion is played a lot in wild (or was played, depending on meta) where there are lots of playable secrets. The most annoying thing is trying to remove him only for a counterspell to be revealed and instead of dying he got +2/+2 and gave more value. + the fact that secrets there are getting cheated in turn 1 and 2

Covert: "Did Hearthstone really have a lot of effects like this? 50% chance to do something?" I'm pretty sure there was an MTG April Fools Day errata or something where they determined that ties could be resolved through suitably random means, such as a coin flip or a game of Hearthstone.

Rarran trying to gaslight Covert into thinking gnomeferatu is good is hilarious

23:56 I wish i was as happy about anything as Rarran is when his guests are dead wrong about something lmao

I haven't played HS since around when VanCleef was sent to Wild, and god damn, as a Rogue player, Covert shouting "YOUR GAME IS FUCKED UP DUDE." Is just. So gratifying.

18:05 When I heard "You couldn't concede the game" I lost it. LOL

Loved the callback to "Wizards of the trope"!

Came from CGB after watching the mtga part (as as a mtga player who once played Hearthstone for some seasons). I really enjoyed them! Make more if its possible, I'll watch em all. Please more of you both! :)

Although I know Rarran was mostly speaking about the card’s presence within the standard format, Orion was an insanely good card in Wild when secret mage was at the top of the meta not too long ago.

28:00 Nozdormu is also incredibly on-theme, as the Dragon Aspect of Time Police. All the Dragon colours are different kind of police. Red: Mortal Police Green: Nature Police Blue: Magic Police Bronze: Time Police Black: Corrupt Police - formerly Underground Cthulhu Police

Because it's class specific, I'm not sure Shudderwock will have killed the most people. My guess would be Leeroy as its a neutral finisher that made its way into many different classes decks

I wanted to say, as someone who never really played Hearthstone (maybe 12 hours total ~6 years ago) your channel has been the most entertaining way to engage with it. The way you help people who aren't so familiar and bring in guests is really awesome.

I think Jaraxxus could have been fun to see on this list. It was really the first "hero" type card we had and even got it back in classic. Very iconic with his voice line too i feel and some funny moments with an oponents randomly getting the kill a demon warlock card that can just kill jaraxxus

5:52 can confirm, my preferred playstyle is control and trying to play any control deck that wasn’t just ‘better tikatus warlock’ was a miserable experience while that card was legal.

sadly rarran didn't mention that rogue winrate skyrocketed to hell in early days if they had a coin, from like 41 to 55+

I love these kind of videos with different card games whether you are guessing or quizzing. They are fascinating either way and I love to see how knowledge transfers between each game. Covert has been great as well and i hope you keep bringing him back! Keep up the great work!

These are always a riot, no matter if it's evaluating MTG or Hearthstone. Especially, as Covert said, when you also go into some history and story behind the cards. Phenomenal content, keep at it!

Certified Wizards of the Trope moment

13:17 I'll mention for Implosion that part of the reason "2-Plosions" as they were referred to was so frustrating is because the card was so above curve compared to what else was out at the time that you HAD to play it in your Warlock aggro deck. 16:38 I'll echo the chorus and say it was also Leeroy. Between the Handlock, Power Overwhelming + Leeroy + Faceless Manipulator, Miracle Rogue Leeroy, Shadowstep, Shadowstep (along with Cold Blood/Prep/Eviscerate) and even some more niche ones (Leeroy, Rockbiter, Windfury for instance) he was just the finisher in everything including aggro decks like Zoo and Face Hunter. 43:34 I'd argue that part of the reason it was so iconic is because it stood alone as one of the only neutral 8s worth playing in that era of Hearthstone. The fact that it continued to be one of the best 8s in the game even after multiple expansions were added is a big part of the reason it was put into the Hall of Fame if I recall.

I appreciate your effort into these style of videos. These style videos are the peak of HS youtube entertainment in my opinion. I play Summoner's War: Chronicles and I think this style of videos would be so perfect for that game, especially since lots of the playerbase comes from SW: Sky Arena, one is real time action and the other is turn based... it'd be a great concept to pull in viewers from both audiences, but damn it sounds like high effort, I'm not sure I wannna put in that effort. I appreciate that you do, though, Rarran. ^_^

One way I like to evaluate Ragnaros as is: 8 mana 8/8 Charge, you can't pick the target, immune while attacking. This is obviously not the exact same as its actual effect but I think for a newer player it makes it easier to visualize what it actually does: you either attack a minion for 8, which is enough to kill 90% of all minions, or you attack your opponent's face for a fourth of their health total, and most importantly you do this the SAME TURN you play it, which is what truly makes any effect like this really good. A new player might look at Ragnaros and not immediately think that it's good, but if you explain it like this and they have the entry level understanding that Charge is a borderline broken keyword they will immediately evaluate it correctly obviously this is less true for modern hearthstone, where simply having big stats on board isn't enough to win games, there's a lot more ways to interact with the opponent's board while simultaneously building your own and there's a lot more different mechanics, which is exactly why ragnaros isn't played right now (though to be fair, it's mostly because of its cost, not its effect, in fact it's actually played in decks that cheat out big minions, because it's a GREAT minion to cheat out) but the basic concept still remains

I saw shudderwock and I could already listen "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch" repeated 15 times in my head

Tinkmaster Overspark in its random form was also played in Shockadin, and Baku Paladin, because transforming a your dude on turn 3 into a 5/5 won the game on the spot.

"WIZARDS OF THE TROPE" Lmao Rarr rar trying to hold in his laugh saying that goves me life

Hello Mr. Rarran. I am almost certain that leeroy has killed more enemies than Shudderwock!

This was a blast, fun guest 🤘

The line, "I remember how I have to talk to you." is the funniest shit to me idk why. Just the thought that Rarran is getting rep for anyone that has been around him for more than a video is really funny.

Here from the CGB Dojo! Awesome to see CGB and Rarran doing more content together! You're cool! 😎👍

Thank you so much for leaving the digression in. Those moments are what makes your show great.

i really like the rating hearthstone cards! please keep it up!

This video is one of my favorites so far. Classic HS was such a good time, it's really fun to remember all the callbacks!

13:45 *Epic Sax Guy starts playing*

god damnit i love this collab!!! i will always watch the full video with these two.

I loved his reaction to Shudderwock, please invite him to play wild together with the wild version! The Reno Highlander is pretty op and he can get some clips with Mutanus too

Fun fact: Nozdormu used to refresh your turn timer when he left the board, as well be consistently odd on how he works due to a lot of bugs lol. Naturally they removed that refresh feature

CovertGoBlue needs to play some Hearthstone, I would abosultely watch it! Watching Voxy play was also so much fun!

I really hope there will be a part 2 of this. There are things that could be brought up like Majordomo, Elwynn Boar, Maestra, Cho, Justicar, Tentacles for Arms... I wonder what his takes would be on cards like these, or anything "wacky"

“There is no middle ground”… “I would put this card in the middle”

I need more of this series! I love it.

Gnomeferatu was such an interesting card to discuss, and it’s proving that it still is. I remember when many people had the same statement as Covert here: that it was basically a 2 mana 2/3 vanilla. The thing that I think most people didn’t predict was that a 2 mana 2/3 would end up being playable in more control-style warlock decks like Cube lock which relied more on getting to drop higher cost minions. You needed a minion of some kind to contest the early aggro board at least somewhat, a 2 mana 2/3 was the preferred vanilla statline for this type of minion in this type of deck (you’re hoping the 2/3 can take out two 2/1s versus a 3/2 which just dies to your opponent’s aggro 1 drop) and then sometimes against a combo deck it would just eat their Malygos and they’d Auto concede because their deck can no longer realistically beat cube lock.

my guy out here forgetting that 'audio amplifier' exists thinking warlock is the only way to increase hand size.

When nozdormu showed up, i was hoping youd remember the life coach tourny xd

That shudderwock conversation had me dying 😂

22:05 I remember during the C'thun era, there were some heavy control match ups where the warrior would use Thaurissan and basically play Cthun then shield slam it. This guaranteed that it died, allowing them to then play Brann and this other battlecry that would add a dead Cthun back to your deck, which then adds two. There was a game where a player decided not to do this and his Cthun was hit by the Tinkmaster, meaning no two extra cthuns and thus he lost. 28:00 Nozdormu broke the game a few times and became an instant win because your opponent's turns were skipped. So technically, it was so overpowered that they had to nerf it.

I love CGB thinking about mid and lower level players brewing and trying cards. I also love Rarren talking about hearthstone clips because he’s totally right , I only remember the iconic cards that have insane moments like babbling book or rag like he said

Nomi also saw play in murloc paladin, because it turns out when your whole deck except your combo is draw and you have 2 cards that put 7 minions on the board, you deck yourself out super fast (you could proc nomi on 7) and the 3rd wave of 6/6 was enough to finish off an opponent usually, because they'd be at like 12 and couldn't remove a couple of elementals. The other funny part about that deck is zephrys, which is a highlander card but the deck ran a few duplicates, but as it turns out when you don't have any cards in your deck you don't have duplicates, and zephrys usually was just a 6 mana fireball and that was good enough (or sometimes 2 mana get a pyroblast)

I really like the idea of this episode, iconic and wacky cards are so much fun to see

God I love this guy and I love your chemistry, you should have him on weekly :D

Honestly, just one of the most hilarious reviews ever. Pls more!

Love seeing you two interact!

Orion , Mansion Manager is still played in wild secret mage(very good card) , the problem in standard when it appeared was the secret pool being to small and not enough support to cheat them out

19:48 appreciate the s/o, cgb ✌

At 21:30 covert says hes scammed by the templating but MtG has the same templating issue with Blood Moon lol. Hes right that on creatures it usually specifies ability loss.

Always enjoy these videos with people from other games!

lifecoach is still taking an eternity to do anything in slay the spire, i have no idea how people have the patience to watch him lol

I always love Blue's energy with Rarran in these, 10/10 yes please

Since CovertGoBlue is an MTG player who almost never thinks about Hearthstone (which is what makes this series so fun), I think he really overrates continuous abilities on small minions. In Magic, you often have to spend a card to get rid of an annoying weenie, or alternatively, the annoying weenie can choose to block a big creature, at its controller's discretion. But in Hearthstone, all it costs to kill a 1/2 is to hit it with a 2/2. That's a pretty low opportunity cost.

Magic actually has an old card that functions like Mayor Noggenfogger, called Grip of Chaos. It didn't affect attacking, since attacking doesn't target, but it caused all spells and abilities that have a target to randomly select its targets from among all legal targets.

Man, I really wish you'd pulled up Deathstalker Rexxar. His hero power felt SO game changing and is still so fun to use, concocting a beast that NOBODY has ever seen before with a wacky mix of effects was so damn fun.

I love these videos. A suggestion for a future video would be do all the quests to see which ones he thinks are good

I rewatch that world championship match like once a year, it was dope.

regadring Tickatus, it was meta warping when combined with pre nerfed Y'sharrj when adding corrupted cards back to your hand made them cost 0 mana, and unless you played an extremely specific type of card generation at the time, you were basically playing with 10-15 card decks because of how disgustingly busted the combo was, it was an auto loss for many of the non aggro classes at the time, and was so dominant in win rate ON ITS OWN (the deck archetype had a fairly mediocre winrate of ~51%) but the winrate of Tickatus was like 96%+ it's the reason why blizzard haven't printed another 'mill' type card that has no opponent interaction at all.

These kind of card reviews are awesome, I would really like to see these people like play a round of dungeon run or something where you're kind of coaching them very slightly. Don't know if there's a magic the gathering version of dungeon run but if there is then they could do the same for you. You do that one and they coach you very slightly. Would be really cool to see how well each person does in that

I really enjoy the content with covertgoblue. Pls more of it. :)

Magic have dark confidant 09:45. Yeah it have to live, but that's much easier in mtgm

Another thing with Imp-losion is back in the day if you got the 4 damage it can just win you the game on the spot, simply due to how powerful tempo and having board control was back then

My friend has a couple decks that if you let them get out of control, the triggers he has to keep up with would go longer than that 15 sec. He is not tsking long turns at times because of thinking, on some of it, he is trying to keep up with the triggers. One time his elf deck had him also keeeping up with triggers each opponents turns too, so he ended up that game not having any time between his turns to do anything but try to resolve the triggers, and all of us couldn't find an answer for this ever growing board state. His Zeffai thunder conductor deck has him trying to track number of spells, and copies and just so many things on the stack, I can't explain enough how often he has come close to decking himself from his own triggers in that.

43:20 Can't believe you didn't mention that it used to just hit something random :D Spending your entire turn just to be hitting yourself in the face was so funny xD

Noggenfogger CAN hit you and your own minions.- for fun wild player.

Love the collabs with CGB!!

Love your collabs with this guy

regarding Orion, Mansion Manager, he sees a lot of play in highlander mage decks currently, so while at the time he was released he wasn't played and was considered a bad card, there's enough secrets in the standard pool to make him a good value option to fill out a singleton deck.

I've got to say, your crossovers with MTG got me into MTG Arena.

The card that killed the most players is going to be an aggro card long before it is ever a control card. Not only is aggro more common on ladder, but you are going to concede A LOT of games before Shudder even gets to kill you since you know it is doomed 3 turns prior. I would argue Steady Shot (yes the hunter hero power) has killed more people than Shudder and it isn't even close.

I would love an episode of this, where you just go through a bunch of the various Dragons with Covert.

The Wizards of the Trobe clip is the peak of Rarran content xD

Dredging definitely made effects like gnomeferatu more useable even if they're still not good. I'll always remember the time I barely lost against a big beast hunter deck because they played the "fill your opponent's hand with bananas" monkey right after I dredged for odin and left me just short on damage to finish him off before he drew the "revive your big beasts" spell.

Sadly, Rarran didn't mention the cool fact about Nozdormu, it used to reset your turn timer when it enters the board, so there was a combo in wild that abused that to make an infinite turn. Just to be clear the card that SHORTENS your turn was used to EXTEND your turn infinitely.

As a magic and hs player i forgot how cool Hs effects are. Major was used by Dane to fuck up Raza/Anduin combo 😂that shit was hilarious

I do think I ran Imp-losion in a Zoolock deck way back when I was still playing. (man has it really been close to 10 years since I played?) The benefit of it in a Zoolock was usually that you were getting a kinderegg - three effects at once - some damage, then at least 2 minions. And when you want to have a lot of disposable minions it's not bad. But, also not amazing.

These videos are so good, love it

Man I miss hearthstone. Last time I played, NAXX OUT was the current meme

Tinkmaster art is awesome, btw one of the best hearthstone react videos I have seen. Big up guys

sickk hope titans are later, good planeswalker analogy

Big fan of the unintentional Shudderwock analysis

I recall the Aviana + mana refresh druid deck where you could cheat out like 5 Ragnaros'. Possibly one of my favorite combo decks ever.

I have no idea what hearthstone cards do, my brain just kinda turns off when looking at them, but I always love videos like this, so fun just making someone guess if cards are good or not idk.

34:00 NAHHH, you did him dirty. There was definitely a time where Orion was up there in most annoying cards in the meta. I remember he was played in 80% of secret mages. It would snowball like crazy

I'll never forget when I was playing against a friend from college and sniped his best creature with Tinkmaster. He was seething.

Nat pagle is a special card for me. It was my first legendary on my first ever pack I use to play in every deck. After the nerf I dusted but in the next day after that i got a gold version from a arena pack and I still have in my colection.

I opened a golden Arch Villian Rafaam back in the day. So much value....so glorious.

Love your collabs with CGB