Mantic Games - Perfect Alternative to GW? 

I've upgraded to mantic Firefight ...have 1500pts of Asterians for a fraction of a GW army

Kings of War is the game I wish fantasy had been and the Goblins are stunning I love the fact that they have other armies gear.

The Warpath? sized boxes remind me of the GW Combat Patrol sized forces. So, $45 on Mantic vs. $160 for GW.

If looking at kings of war and not wanting to buy one of the 2 player starter sets, the ambush sets are great value, with a small chunk of models as well as the rules to play them. Most of the ambush sets also have the newer mantic plastics in as well.

Mantics zombies and Gouhls are pretty good miniatures. still prefer those to the GW versions.

I am still currently putting together marauders and enforcers from the starter set. Also they have a new faction coming up for the game as well. I look forward to getting into a game sometime.

Been looking at maybe picking up the Marauders Enforcers firefight box, thanks for the video!

Firefight is so much fun! So are Deadzone and Kings of War! Mantic makes some seriously fun games :D

The Mantic rules are way better than GW stuff. Very streamlined.

Armada is great, and you can get all the models as STLs from Mantic Vault.

Neither GW or Mantic used to interest me much. I'm not into "gangs fighting in a parking lot" style games. But now both are giving us Epic games that are arguably REAL wargames.

Ah man, you missed Dungeon Saga, which is like their version of Warhammer Quest! Neat little board game with minis that can be used for RPGs. I think they’re releasing a new edition, definitely got my eye on it. Their newer minis are definitely better. Not as cluttered with “detail” as GW minis, but that makes them easier to assemble and paint and actually get on the table, and you don’t need fifty pouches and random stuff covering every model.

Ronnie Renton is the owner and CEO he was once a GW executive back in the day.

Would definitely recommend Warmachine MKIV as an alternative as well! :)

KoW and Deadzone are far better

I actually have a Mantic Games bag that they gave out exclusively that first year (months?) they were operating as an early adopter bonus. I bought a whole ton of those early dwarves and I still have a load of them unmade as I stopped playing fantasy shortly afterwards when I moved and had no one to play it with any longer.

I just wish they wouldn't have abandoned Vanguard. I'm in the process of collecting all the warbands (yes, I'm a crazy person) but have to stick to alternative models for some. I love the Trident Realm of Neritica, though.I hope they do a streamlined version of Vanguard at some point. I like that they embraced 3D-printing and I'm really thinking of getting a resin printer for all the Armada stuff in their Vault.

For an alternative game you should look at Conquest. Their quality is very close to GW and the gameplay is super fast and interesting.

I'm just not sure how good Mantic's quality control is. The first box I purchased was the mega army of the Trident Realm of Neritica and the Depth Horror Eternal model was missing his head. After contacting Mantic they want proof of purchase before they will send me a head. I have it but it just seems a little silly, as if I'm trying to cheat them out of just a head of a $12 model. I had been buying GW stuff since 1987 and say what we will about them I have never had a single piece missing from any blister pack or box set in 37 years. That being said Mantic does make some nice looking models I just hope quality control isn't an issue going forward.

I used to love playing Firefight but with the player base in the UK being so small I was lucky if I could find a game once a month 😕

Been looking in to Deadzone and Firefight as an alternative. GW rules are too complicated for their own good. Some models might look average but there isn't a rule you can't use for example GW models or 3D printed ones. I'm collecting Leagues of Votann from GW because I like the look. I'm planning to use them as proxies for Forge Fathers. I just need to change the bases to sizes meant for Firefight/Deadzone. The Mantic army that I wanna collect are the Veer-Myn. I might even use them in some skirmish games from GW. Kings of War looks interresting but the multibasing is a nono for me. I would use multiple small bases and use movement trays. Helps if I need to repaint a model of want to change the places of models. I know it's an extra investment but I will gladly pay. Their Mantic companion is cool and their extra 3D printed options give more dynamic poses to their models. For me the price and the rules are a big plus. I never intend to go for super detailed models or well painted models. I'm just a beginner painter and just want to play some games.

I can't get away with the waxy pvc-like material Mantic use, and the yawning gaps on their multipart models. Bought a pre-owned starter army dirt-cheap from eBay and I had to grind joylessly through the assembly and painting. Love their company ethos, but I don't think the quality is really there.

I was hoping to see a demonstrated play thru comparison. not simply a product infomercial.

So my observation is. why play Mantic as an alternative to GW? Why not play it for its own sake? Why does any game have to be played as an alternative to any other game, like so many content producers seem to suggest? You should be playing any game for its own sake and because you enjoy it of course. I play multiple games not because one is better than the other but because they have value in their own right.

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This is all nice and well but if other people don't play it then you can't get value out of your models. Doesn't matter how much cheaper they are

I have a soft spot for Mantic games but it's been hard to get my friends into their offerings, I've only really succeeded with Vanguard and to a lesser extent Deadzone. The rulesets for the bigger games like Kings of War were a bit too simplified/abstracted compared to the likes of Warhammer Fantasy, and while they have got better some of their sculpts are... not great. Not to mention the fact that they still use restic/PVC plastic for many models which is horrible to work with. Also personally gutted that they seem to have dropped support and/or development for Vanguard, which is a fantastic game.

Are the Marauders a good cheap alternative to 40k Orks

You cannot beat GW at quality "and" you become part of a massive community with clubs everywhere

Ronnie owns 100% of Mantic

The only problem is thst no one plays this stuff near me, it's all GW wargames.

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If you were to play Kings of War at full model count, KoW can be far more expensive than The Old World. KoW armies are HUGE. Luckily you can multibase your units and use a lot less

Their orks are terrible, their guard is perfect

Rules are decent. But their models almost always look like pants. And are cheaply made, from cheap materials

I like Kings of War, but Mantic is a big, loud meh from me. I like the company, but the models and lore are an issue. The models are often ugly, the scaling weird and the materials sometimes questionable, particularly the PVC stuff. The lore is bland and not very captivating, GW lore, particularly in the past, has been lightning in a bottle. The fact that they stick a proprietary spin on many of the armies instead of a pure miniatures agnostic system doesn't work to the games strengths imop. They have expanded into 3d printing with Mantic which is a move in the right direction. The bottom line is its quality is Mediocre, the lore is poor and it's harder to get players. As much as I like Kings of War it hasn't become my default system as I now prefer One Page Rules or just Oldhammer it for Grim dark fantasy.

Their sci fi line is phoned in they kept chasing whatever fad GW was doing with deadzone and were always behind. Their fantasy is far better alternative.

Mantis’s figures look like garbage for the most part. Super static poses…not good.

Mantic rules? 👍 Mantic sculpts and models? 👎👎