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Mass Effect SECRET DIALOGUE - What Happens If You Recruit Liara AFTER Virmire, Noveria & Feros? 

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In this video, we'll explore some unique and entertaining dialogue that only occurs if you recruit Liara AFTER completing the main story missions on Virmire, Noveria and Feros first.
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After meeting with The Council to discuss the events of Eden Prime and Saren’s cooperation with the Geth, Udina and Anderson give Shepard three objectives to pursue - investigate reports of Geth activity on Feros, find Matriarch Benezia on Noveria, and locate Benezia’s daughter Liara T’Soni in the Artemis Tau cluster.
At this point, you are free to complete these objectives in any order you like. Most players will likely complete all three missions before going to Virmire to shut down Saren’s Krogan breeding facility. But you can actually delay the mission to rescue Liara and go to Virmire first, after you’ve completed Noveria and Feros.
If you’ve completed Noveria, Feros and Virmire, when you discover Liara she will have some unique dialogue. She will believe that Shepard is a hallucination. I guess the idea is that we left her there so long that she started hallucinating hahaha. But my favorite part happens when you get back on the ship and tell her all the answers to the Prothean extinction, a subject she's been studying for 50 years without knowing the real answers.

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@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
"Quit whining or I'll drop your ass back in that volcano!"
@HeyGuy4321
@HeyGuy4321 3 года назад
Love it
@RicoLen1
@RicoLen1 3 года назад
Yep, that does it. "Quit whining or I'll drop your ass back in that volcano" is my new favorite Commander Shepard quote. Over 13 years later and I'm still finding things to love about Mass Effect. Also, I can't believe someone could talk to Liara like that!
@JPS47
@JPS47 3 года назад
Could we get Femshep to say this?
@RicoLen1
@RicoLen1 3 года назад
@@JPS47 There is another video that covers that. I heard it first with femshep, definitely prefer male shep.
@nyxxose
@nyxxose 3 года назад
Just be sure Entei doesn’t bark from some other distant land.....
@justynagaecka9275
@justynagaecka9275 3 года назад
I always go like this: Recruit Liara,Feros,Noveria,Virmire and Ilos
@seanrasmussen2877
@seanrasmussen2877 3 года назад
Yaaaas!
@denislavventsislavov2078
@denislavventsislavov2078 3 года назад
Of course,i ain't going nowhere without liara
@dustyboi8975
@dustyboi8975 3 года назад
I remember in my first play through I went straight to noveria and couldn’t figure out why the game was so damn hard
@pearsemolloy9656
@pearsemolloy9656 3 года назад
@@dustyboi8975 same it doesn’t help that Noveria is the most dragged out mission in the game as well.
@arzen6494
@arzen6494 3 года назад
I did Recruit Liara, Noveria, Feros, Virmire and then Ilos. I was questioning why Noveria was so hard lol. how dumb i was
@ukmaxi
@ukmaxi 3 года назад
My very first playthrough in 2007 was this. Liara was literally the last thing I did before going to Ilos and I was amazed at how different the interaction was on my second playthrough.
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
Yeah it's awesome that they wrote an entirely different section of dialogue based on when you recruit Liara
@robertpanek5944
@robertpanek5944 3 года назад
So this is why I never got this dialog again on my subsequent playthroughs! I only had it in my first one too.
@nightflier5045
@nightflier5045 3 года назад
It was the last thing I did my first playthrough as well
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy 3 года назад
@@BigDanGaming This is that same with javik. If u recruit him after Rannoch he will say that shep thinks that they are winning, after Thessia he says sth about your lost fight with kai
@michelvanderlinden8363
@michelvanderlinden8363 2 года назад
ME1 Liara: "Oh Goddess help me" ME2 Liara: "The Goddess can't save you from me" ME3 Liara: "I'm your Goddess, now bow!"
@manofwarb
@manofwarb 10 месяцев назад
ME3 Liara - We weren't animals for you to experiment on, Goddess!! ME:A PB: "I am the Goddess!"
@_Tomon
@_Tomon 3 года назад
Ashley: Not to mention your little run-in with Sovereign. I'd call that definite proof. "Ah, yes. Reapers. We have dismissed that claim."
@griffingower1883
@griffingower1883 2 года назад
*5 seconds later: Sovereign attacks the Citadel with a fleet of Geth Heretics.*
@thekingflea2199
@thekingflea2199 2 года назад
All this technology and no cameras to take a pic or video of the hologram playing lol
@gazelle_diamond9768
@gazelle_diamond9768 Год назад
@@griffingower1883 "We have dismissed that claim."
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867
Yet another reason I let the council die in every playthrough, I don't care if humans take over the council or not, it is just a matter of removing those who are incompetent from power.
@davidos8760
@davidos8760 Год назад
@@thekingflea2199no they saw that shit and actually believed Shepard at least the salarian and Asari Councler does they put in the official records for people of high ranks to know that reapers exist it is why the specters all believed Shepard pretty openly even tho they are not allowed to talk about it due to public panic
@olegebloek
@olegebloek 3 года назад
I don't know why, but the way Shepherd just calmly says "We are here to save your sorry ass" to Liara is just amazing.
@Allaiya.
@Allaiya. 3 года назад
6:58 Liara lamenting about her life's work getting blown apart 7:06 Shepard's flat stare lmao
@jakewallace1869
@jakewallace1869 3 года назад
Rewatching that, I laughed for a solid minute🤣🤣🤣
@german2122
@german2122 3 года назад
he's like, plz shut up liara how can you be so annoying!!
@DhantExMachina
@DhantExMachina Год назад
Peak comedy
@chronenojysk5107
@chronenojysk5107 3 года назад
Idk how I can handle being Renegade in these playthroughs. Like poor girl, she was trapped in a Volcano, missed a lot of events and Shepard treats her like garbage. I can’t handle that.
@dkirby9052
@dkirby9052 3 года назад
Yes! Most of the time you just come off sounding like a dick. Renegade options that don't appear to be all that harsh at a glance, once they leave Shepard's mouth it is in a tone you did not intend and feel bad for choosing. That is just a problem with the dialogue wheel in general though. What you are choosing doesn't always line up with what comes out of the character's mouth.
@TeionM83
@TeionM83 3 года назад
That's why I always go Paragon. In ME2,there are some hilarious Renegade quick time events but, for the most part, I continue being Paragon. I like the galaxy's biggest hero and only hope to be nice instead of being a complete @sshole.
@CircusofPython
@CircusofPython 2 года назад
Renegade is the funniest way to play. Just be nice to your crew and Anderson and an ass to literally everyone else
@molasorrosalom4846
@molasorrosalom4846 2 года назад
Unfortunately there's some renegade options that will help with war assets. Like exterminating the rogue geth.
@ThatSoulsGirl
@ThatSoulsGirl 2 года назад
Playing Renegade doesn't mean you have to be an ass to the people you actually canonize that your shepard likes. Choosing ONLY renegade options when they aren't big choices will sometimes be funny but I reserve that for the characters I don't like and it makes for a Shepard that feels more real, IMO.
@marcusmalone
@marcusmalone 3 года назад
Renegade Shep was always hilarious. I remember randomly punching out a journalist at one point. Like wtf?
@Usernamenottaken2k
@Usernamenottaken2k 3 года назад
And then again in the sequel. Right in the kisser. Superb. Plus I'd had enough of her snide insinuations
@TheWefikus
@TheWefikus 3 года назад
I feel that the previous BioWare team had special repressed feelings about tabloid writers lol
@marpj6138
@marpj6138 3 года назад
I normally go Paragon, but I make sure to always punch the journalist. I dont know why, it would feel wrong if I did not
@serhiypanchyshyn2759
@serhiypanchyshyn2759 3 года назад
@@Usernamenottaken2k and then again in the third part! 😂
@marcusmalone
@marcusmalone 3 года назад
@@marpj6138 🤣
@floatinggoose9197
@floatinggoose9197 3 года назад
Alternate title : How to never romance Liara
@dpssocket
@dpssocket 2 года назад
I can never be renegade with Liara, she’s just too adorable
@kimosterhout3242
@kimosterhout3242 2 года назад
I discovered a brief dialogue on Eden Prime that I’d never seen before earlier today- I didn’t mention Nihlus during the Eden Prime mission and Ashley expressed her surprise at seeing a turian instead of going straight to “something’s moving behind those crates” when I clicked on the body.
@Independenceday95
@Independenceday95 3 года назад
I always rescue Liara first, but it's cool to see just how much variation there is in the first Mass Effect.
@johnclark8637
@johnclark8637 3 года назад
Renegade Shepard is so funny
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
Especially in ME1 - I love playing as renegade Shepard lol
@cryofpaine
@cryofpaine 3 года назад
My ringtone is a line from the mission where you disarm a nuke. The femshep version has so much attitude. I was in a company meeting one time (it was a small business). The CEO was talking, when I got a call. So while he's talking, all of a sudden you hear "You assume I give a damn. That's cute." 🤣
@vkak1
@vkak1 3 года назад
@@cryofpaine bruh, what was the outcome? Srsly, how'd that end for ya?
@cryofpaine
@cryofpaine 3 года назад
@@vkak1 A LOT of laughter! :D It was a small company. We'd often hang out after work, go out for drinks, things like that. It had a real family feel to it.
@ghorstbusters6238
@ghorstbusters6238 3 года назад
@@BigDanGaming is it to detrimental to be renegade in the later games?
@diamondinthesky4771
@diamondinthesky4771 3 года назад
I always recruited Liara before Noveria myself, only because bringing her along for the battle against her mother felt right. But it's interesting to see what it's like if that all happened before she met Shepard.
@OneLastScholar
@OneLastScholar 3 года назад
I enjoy the extra dialogue, but forcing Liara to shoot down (and be shot by) her mom was kind of cruel.
@mega9538
@mega9538 3 года назад
I've always done the volcano mission first mostly because its my fav mission. (Also easy to do until you meet that colossus in the end)
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
Yeah that Colossus is a beast. That Krogan and his Geth minions at the end always give me a bit of trouble too lol
@mega9538
@mega9538 3 года назад
@@BigDanGaming same but for the krogan part i just coward behind something but even then the krogan can just decide to rush me even when im behind a wall lmao
@randalltempelaar
@randalltempelaar 3 года назад
Volcano Mission?
@mega9538
@mega9538 3 года назад
@@randalltempelaar the planet that has lava all over the place/the one you rescue liara.
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
@@randalltempelaar It's the mission on Therum where you recruit Liara. The planet has an active volcano
@riftshredder5438
@riftshredder5438 3 года назад
I can't wait for the remaster to come out, hell I've been waiting ever since it was rumored
@Francis_UD
@Francis_UD 3 года назад
Remaster is likely gonna sück. Don’t get your hopes up. Dude.
@riftshredder5438
@riftshredder5438 3 года назад
@@Francis_UD it can't possibly be as bad as Andromeda
@vkak1
@vkak1 3 года назад
@@Francis_UD unless they fundamentally change the story or gameplay, how can it suck? ME1 gameplay was horrendous....you can't get worse than that. So, I know they revamped the gameplay for that, I'm gonna assume it is way better. And yes, they took out some ass shots....but it's a small price to pay honestly.
@r.k.6680
@r.k.6680 3 года назад
@@Perkele_foxtrot_oscar_bravo Uhm lol, trying to get fake glory? They did not let people beta test it.
@gassedup8046
@gassedup8046 3 года назад
Hell yeah brother😭
@frogoat
@frogoat 3 года назад
I accidentally did this my first playthrough. Sorry, Liara.
@samanthaclyde8688
@samanthaclyde8688 3 года назад
Wait a minute. Once I recruited Liara after completing Feros and Noveria but BEFORE doing Virmire (I always do Virmire last) and I got this scene.
@andrews.5212
@andrews.5212 2 года назад
Me too. I think it just triggers after two main missions.. too bad you end up not being able to romance her :( Too big a price to get these scene!
@MIKEpkmnMaster
@MIKEpkmnMaster 3 года назад
"Make it fast! Times'a wastin..." Lmfaoooo, I've never heard him say that before!🤣
@KazumaKenchi
@KazumaKenchi 3 года назад
She's been there for so long that she thinks she's hallucinating lmao
@capacitatedflux
@capacitatedflux 2 года назад
While it requires some creative storytelling on the player's part, grabbing Liara last (or at least after Noveria) can still make sense. If you pretend you get the mission to Therum after killing Benezia, in a sort of "you killed her mom, now Saren wants to get the next best thing" way, postponing the mission works out.
@CrackFoxtrot24
@CrackFoxtrot24 2 года назад
It's an interesting concept recruiting liara after sacrificing ashley/kaidan, lose one squadmate and then gain a replacement. It could've offered some very in-depth character interaction, with liara trying to fit in with the squad and sort of filling the deceased squadmate's shoes.
@manofwarb
@manofwarb 10 месяцев назад
Or losing two sqquadmates. You can also put down Wrex on Virmire.
@tibsky1396
@tibsky1396 3 года назад
Personally, I have always completed these missions before even going to Virmire, with the maximum number of side quests possible on the galaxy map. Even Liara's mission was always the first one I did before Feros and Noveria. So you really are showing me something. To be honest, I never thought about the perspective you present ^^
@laseangames
@laseangames 3 года назад
I never even consider waiting that long to recruit her since Iove to hear the dialogue between Liara and the mom.
@weskan8722
@weskan8722 3 года назад
Thanks so much for these alternate takes on Mass Effect. Really enjoying these. Learning a lot of game mechanics.
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!
@basicoptimalmouse
@basicoptimalmouse 3 года назад
Always trips me how different her voice is in ME1. The director in 2 and 3 be like "how breathy and sexual can you make Liara's voice this time?" "Yes."
@SwagBroPlays
@SwagBroPlays 3 года назад
OVER 10 YEARS AND STILL DISCOVERING NEW STUFF
@pocket_ghost2398
@pocket_ghost2398 3 года назад
Thats what im saying. Howwww
@MrSpartanspud
@MrSpartanspud 3 года назад
I always went to do Liara's mission first because she seemed like she was going to be a party member.
@oscara8454
@oscara8454 3 года назад
I always get Liara first. Especially on Insanity, her Biotics are too good to pass up.
@johndoe-wd9fh
@johndoe-wd9fh 3 года назад
Fun fact I did this my first playthrough without understanding the consequences. I just played the mission's that sounded cooler. I did think I may get my 6th squadmate in that mission. but I thought "oh well I'll get them eventually I'm still early on in the game". Not knowing how short the game was.
@mrj2162
@mrj2162 3 года назад
The remaster looks awesome
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
Agreed! I'm looking forward to playing it in May
@Baronstone
@Baronstone 3 года назад
It did until they elected to censor female bodies, now it's just another piece of shit SJW remake
@71hammyman
@71hammyman 3 года назад
@@Baronstone if that's literally all you care about from the game then you're not worthy.
@TheWefikus
@TheWefikus 3 года назад
@@Baronstone dude just literally zoom in on Liara and Miranda’s ass during the game if you really need it. Plus you still see it during the sex scenes. You sound just as sensitive as SJWs
@Dementia_Springtrap
@Dementia_Springtrap Год назад
I remember doing this when playing Mass Effect 1 for the first time. I had NO knowledge of anything in the series, (despite the first time I played it being this year) as well as ADHD, so I was completely distracted, marvelling at the game design and story, that I COMPLETELY missed the mission summary of there being a goddamned person on that planet, so I just…left that one for last. When I got there, I thought it was normal for her to be delirious and confused, so when I started telling my friends about my first time playing Mass Effect, and they shared *their* experiences, I was rightfully confused when it got to their summaries of the mission regarding liara’s recruitment..
@andrews.5212
@andrews.5212 2 года назад
My first ever playthrough i rescued liara after feros and noveria. I never realize i would get another companion xD xD But the "you are rude for an allucination" was priceless.. xD
@Warsawke
@Warsawke 3 года назад
Btw, in your wrex video on virmire you could have added that if you don't recruit garrus you can save wrex no matter what.
@Warsawke
@Warsawke 3 года назад
and you must not recruit Liara either
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
Ahhh so that's why that happens. I played through the Virmire mission recently (to get this footage) without Garrus & Liara. Wrex just automatically stood down after like 1 or 2 lines of dialogue. I was surprised! I guess the game doesn't want you to dip below 3 squadmates once you leave The Citadel? So it just automatically keeps Wrex alive if you only have Kaidan, Ashley and Tali when you get to Virmire.
@Warsawke
@Warsawke 3 года назад
@@BigDanGaming Yep. :D
@Hito_Hito_Fruit_model_UncleSam
@Hito_Hito_Fruit_model_UncleSam 3 года назад
I played this one so many times. Done lots of difrent things but i can never bring myself to not recruit garrus he was and always will be my favorite companion and tali as well
@AbigatorM
@AbigatorM 3 года назад
@@Hito_Hito_Fruit_model_UncleSam also he has the most adorable and shy romance with fem shep :D reroled to fem shepard in 2 just so i can get me some garrus
@jessemagana4596
@jessemagana4596 3 года назад
And that's how Liara spends the rest of the series thinking she's hallucinating everything.
@josephflanigan3649
@josephflanigan3649 Год назад
I did this the very first time I played the game. Went to Noveria first and pretty much had Benezia’s speech memorized. Couldn’t believe how easy the Liara mission was after Virmire
@DalonKid
@DalonKid 10 месяцев назад
Recuerdo que la primera vez que llegue a noveria active la purga antes de ir con la matriarca provocando la muerte de los científicos a manos de los guardias en definitiva una de las misiones que más me gustan de la trilogía
@terryautry6493
@terryautry6493 3 года назад
it's easy to forget her though lol.
@MrAmazingJeff
@MrAmazingJeff 3 года назад
Seeing all your Mass Effect videos is so making me want to playthrough all 3 games again for at least my fifth or sixth time maybe more I don’t remember the exact amount I’ve played each game. Also the whole crazy hallucinating Liara thing happens if you do her rescue mission third out of Feros, Noveria and her mission (I forget the age of it) and I’m not including Virmire in that because I’ve always done it last out of those 4 places.
@younghades9287
@younghades9287 3 года назад
I didn't save her until after Virmire and I just thought that was her normal dialogue. I was more worried about getting through the story than actually saving her.
@tristanpowell85
@tristanpowell85 3 года назад
Did you.... Did you not recruit Garrus?!?
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 года назад
Yes but only because it's going to be a topic in another video. Garrus has some unique dialogue in ME2 if you don't recruit him in ME1
@Arklay_98
@Arklay_98 3 года назад
@@BigDanGaming First who doesn’t recruit Garrus to begin with he’s your boy and second I didn’t know you could not recruit him.
@vkak1
@vkak1 3 года назад
@@Arklay_98 this dude has played the game to exhaust as much paths as possible for us to see what happens, especially cuz, we ain't brave enough to explore even half those heartless paths.
@Joseph4997
@Joseph4997 3 года назад
I hope this channel blows up after Mass Effect Legendary Edition releases, good quality shit
@sanderhoogeland9161
@sanderhoogeland9161 3 года назад
Haha, I could never do this to Liara. :)
@wolfder6661
@wolfder6661 3 года назад
I can and I would defiantly do this just to watch her go mad
@master_ace
@master_ace 2 года назад
Seeing this ME1 footage really highlights the improvements they made in LE
@TewbBelrog
@TewbBelrog Год назад
As someone in the midst of playing through LE, I kinda prefer low res Liara. Something about her LE incarnation feels very uncanny valley to me.
@fretingsmiles
@fretingsmiles 3 года назад
Thanks for your videos so that we don't need to go through the games so many times just to experience all these dialogs. I can't ever get myself to go renegade on best girl Liara. Even watching these makes me cringe!
@FoolsGil
@FoolsGil 2 года назад
I was disappointed that in ME2 Liara wasn't more standoffish if you went through this route. Imho Liara would recover Shepard to repay a debt, but wouldn't be even mention the Shadow Broker until you did some extra missions for her (even if they were renamed N7 missions)
@shane3858
@shane3858 3 года назад
The renegade dialogue in ME1 was the best. He was such a dick in that game, lol. Not quite as dickish in ME2, but still good, but his renegade dialogue in ME3 was just kind of "meh." I hope in future games they make the different personality choices much more drastic like they did in ME1.
@amyhoard1222
@amyhoard1222 3 года назад
Doubtful, they didn't really have an option to be a dick in Andromeda so I doubt whatever they call the next game will be any better. I also doubt they will ever bring Shepard back from the dead, again, since 3 was ment to be the end of his/her story.
@jacobballance117
@jacobballance117 3 года назад
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese lmfao
@serathaevistille995
@serathaevistille995 3 года назад
It's actually kind of the other way around. ME1, Renegade is pretty balanced and mostly just, 'Shut up, I'm talking, you're wrong.' Kinda thing. ME2 they go for more of a bad cop, badass outlaw type of thing, which works well, though some Paragon options I consider necessary in ME2. Like saving the Genophage research data. ME3 is where Renegade just becomes utterly psychotic and awful. I hate it. Murdering friends, literally. Innocents, genociding, even. I can never do the big Renegade options in ME3, like sabotaging the Genophage cure. It's just wrong.
@shane3858
@shane3858 3 года назад
@@serathaevistille995 No, it's not. I'm not talking about the actions that follow the renegade options. I'm talking about the dialogue, i.e., what he actually says, is much more entertaining/funny in ME1 than in any of the other games. Like when he tells Liara to shut up or he's going to toss her down a volcano. There's nothing nearly that funny in ME2 or ME2 for renegade.
@serathaevistille995
@serathaevistille995 3 года назад
@@shane3858 Oh, my mistake then. I guess that's because the games took a bit more of a serious turn after ME1. Very doom and gloom.
@d4clt218
@d4clt218 3 года назад
Wait. This was because I did her mission last? I honestly thought that was the default- Those are some nice attention to details.
@nicktikkets6932
@nicktikkets6932 2 года назад
Your a legend big dan. Some great vids... The only problem is everytime I watch one of your vids it makes me want to jump back into the world that is mass effect.
@quigonbond
@quigonbond 3 года назад
She doesn't say anything about her mom's death.
@coldwynn
@coldwynn 3 года назад
Hah, Liara is talking about how her research doesn't get the attention it should and Shepard crushes her hypothesis in one sentence.
@dank2804
@dank2804 6 месяцев назад
Liara isn't getting out of the volcano with this one🤖📢📢
@Baronstone
@Baronstone 3 года назад
What sort of jerk talks that way to someone that just had their entire world crumble around them?
@marcusmalone
@marcusmalone 3 года назад
Renegade Shep, that's who.
@JC839
@JC839 3 года назад
Rescued Holocaust survivor “I’m hungry” Renegade Commander Shepherd “quit your whining or I’ll drop your ass right back in that camp!”
@dirkbsilver9260
@dirkbsilver9260 3 года назад
Always hated Renegade path as your lines are all dick lines.
@valmiro4164
@valmiro4164 3 года назад
Well, she made it sound like her life's work was dedicated solely for their mission.
@Allaiya.
@Allaiya. 3 года назад
I feel like I got a similar scene after just doing Noveria and Feros first. Though I think she realizes Shepard wasn't a hallucination earlier than in this video.
@menalgharbwalsharq648
@menalgharbwalsharq648 2 года назад
wow, I replayed the legendary edition after many, many years, and I knew the graphics were amazingly improved but seeing this, This is way above anything I would have thought. They really did a great job here.
@brandab4536
@brandab4536 Год назад
so does this mean liara never met the virmire casualty? she could also potentially never meet wrex, too. interesting video
@grandmasteryado8478
@grandmasteryado8478 2 года назад
Gonna have to try this on my next renegade playthrough. Liara going a little crazy isn’t something I expected 😂
@k4den4perpetu4
@k4den4perpetu4 2 года назад
Can you make a compilation of the responses to "How are you really doing Shepard? Not what you tell your crew to keep morale up" at the end of LotSB? I hear they change depending on where in the story you are when you play the DLC
@orthex13
@orthex13 3 года назад
Cant tell you how many times I played just to hear every line. But I always recruited Liara early. May do another Full Renegade run, and try this out (when Legendary comes out).
@ragabashmoon1551
@ragabashmoon1551 Год назад
Unless I am romancing Liara on a playthrough, I always do this. It's just too hilarious not to.
@bindair_dundat
@bindair_dundat 3 года назад
So you gotta go after Liara eventually? Can't just go Ilos after Virmire? :D
@Dark_Voice
@Dark_Voice 2 года назад
Nobody on Normandy knows about Ilos and everyone suggests that the Benezia's daughter might know more about that like if it was something obvious that Liara will know about Ilos. I bet lorewise you could look into any Alliance database and Liara is obsolete BUT the game simply forces Liara on you. (Although it would still be a very hard thing to do because Shepard has only images of Prothean town being attacked by collectors. He has no idea about Collectors etc of course BUT he has totally no idea about the name Ilos => they would have to go through all planets that are linked to Mu relay and then sort them by whether they have Prothean ruins or not and when they would identify Prothean worlds - THEN they would need to go through all the photos of all planets until they see Ilos from the visions. SO, trying Liara is better, easier and more convenient by far and I would try to exhaust all my other options before doing the archive search especially since you know she studied the protheans)
@antagonisstic
@antagonisstic 3 года назад
You can just do Feros and Noveria and she will act the same way talking about hallucinating.
@N7RayHeflinShepard
@N7RayHeflinShepard 2 года назад
7:06 😆😆😆😆😆 Liara: WHAT!!!!! HIM: *STARES INTO HER SOUL*
@CYB3R2K
@CYB3R2K 5 месяцев назад
The only reason i can't do this is because singularity is way too precious to miss early on especially on insanity difficulty.
@Audiojack_
@Audiojack_ Месяц назад
This is what happened to me when I first played the game blind.
@BlueBoxRevan
@BlueBoxRevan 3 года назад
Liara missed everything. Worth it.
@Salted_Fysh
@Salted_Fysh 2 года назад
Shame there isn't a scene were you tell her about Benezia. Maybe she'll even cry.
@gabematthews4532
@gabematthews4532 7 месяцев назад
I actually did this on my first playthrough because I didn’t know where in the cluster she was in
@nooicce
@nooicce 3 года назад
Cannot wait for legendary edition!!!
@N7RayHeflinShepard
@N7RayHeflinShepard 2 года назад
Honestly I find this dialogue kind of cute and hilarious
@TheHikeChoseMe
@TheHikeChoseMe 11 месяцев назад
damn renegade shep is brutal.
@Tkokat
@Tkokat 3 месяца назад
Mass Effect 1 renegade shepard was a different beast
@tacticianM
@tacticianM 2 года назад
I did this once just to see what whould happen I was surprised to see it was different
@corbenikgaming7688
@corbenikgaming7688 3 года назад
i wonder if the old mining laser exp glitch will still work on the upcoming Legendary Edition? lol
@ANCIENTWARRI0R
@ANCIENTWARRI0R 3 года назад
I dont remember that on the Xbox version but I hope the Renegade/Paragon glitch from Noveria is still there. I love to max both.
@marloaleman9539
@marloaleman9539 3 года назад
Peace hippy nice Mass Effect video happy
@Tax_2000
@Tax_2000 3 года назад
I always recruit liara as soon as I get the normandy.
@johnblackhead2384
@johnblackhead2384 3 года назад
I really enjoyed watching Liara change from one game to the next. It’s a very well written arc.
@Dark_Voice
@Dark_Voice 2 года назад
Its totally not. She changes based on writer's needs, not based on her achievements and especiences. They literally tried to do afterthought explanation of her insane changes in comic books and DLC (they needed to do all that to make her at least slightly possible BUT its simply not enough). Liara doesnt change from one into another, Liara is something in one game and gets throw to the trash AND new Liara replaces her - thats not good writing, thats actually one of the worst writing methods. Crucible is insanely bad writing as well - complete deus ex machina ending that wasnt even mentioned in ME1 and ME2 (esspecially "we wrote ourselves into the corner so...") AND of course its Liara the Plot device that finds it. She doesnt do anything for Shepard as a Shadobroker. (Apart from the intel that is more about gameplay than anything helpful really AND its Shepard that gets all the intel anyways.) They literally made her cold backstabby Shadowbroker from Prothean researcher - after backlash they released half a year later her DLC (Lair of the Shadowbroker) to mention that she will use the organization for something good, do the catchup with Shepard and all that. (Because they realized how much they fd up with Liara. No things like Mass effect Redeption and other comic books werent enough. Full DLC as a sorry, we fd up was needed that retconned some of her character change.) In ME3 they tried to downplay that personality even more and force her on you because they didnt wanna receive the backlash again. She is so friendly to the point of being a stalker and very creepy if you dont romance. (If you romance its acceptable only because thats what people loving one another do.) Her Shadow broker status is mostly used in jokes and comic relief moments throughout the third game because they dont dare to do anything with Liara the Shadowbroker AND with Javik (Eden Prime) and Crucible they try desperately to reverse all the damage done by her ME2 change. You might enjoy the change BUT its complete trash character design and very badly written.
@johnblackhead2384
@johnblackhead2384 2 года назад
@@Dark_Voice It’s only a game. You are far too emotionally invested in ones and zeros. Maybe get a hobby.
@qcdoomqc
@qcdoomqc Год назад
@@Dark_Voice lmao go touch grass ffs. Holy shit. Her friend/lover dies after a pretty traumatic experience, that changes a person. Her arc makes sense, she was young and subject to change and grow in ME1, too.
@radioactive06
@radioactive06 Год назад
​@@johnblackhead2384it is pretty bad written tho
@nexxus2614
@nexxus2614 Год назад
@@johnblackhead2384 "Yes, very valid sounding arguments coming from your side. Here, let me personally insult you because I can't think of any counter ones."
@TheDragonOfWhi
@TheDragonOfWhi 3 года назад
I always do the liara mission last. Mostly because I can't stand her. And find her inclusion into the group pointless. (But that's because I play as an Adept there for do not need her, likewise never really bonded or played with Jack)
@SCRaetz
@SCRaetz 3 года назад
Man, I forgot how annoying AF Liara was in ME1. I love that she takes some levels in Bad Ass in the later installments.
@KlavierMenn
@KlavierMenn 3 года назад
Well, tbf she was just a 'college kid' at that time
@noxymex
@noxymex Год назад
She's literally the embodiment of anti-social young adult??? It isn't her fault lmao
@TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture
@TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture 2 года назад
must have been in there for quite a while - she sounds dehydrated
@bbb4228
@bbb4228 2 года назад
I just did a renegade Shep run where I didn’t get Liara until the last possible moment
@TVideoCZ
@TVideoCZ 2 года назад
This was actually my first playthrough lol
@FernasRPG
@FernasRPG Год назад
I am doing this on my run now :)
@buffcanuck83
@buffcanuck83 3 года назад
Excellent video. 👍😄
@SAClassHunterZero
@SAClassHunterZero 16 дней назад
Thanks for showing this; I uh... don't like Liara so I was ecstatic to find a way to make her wait as long as possible lmfao "Hey Shepard, that Asari Matriarch had a daughter, right? We should go visit her." N O T Y E T "Shepard, that Asari controlled by the Thorian helped you with the Prothean Cipher. Maybe Liara can analyze what you saw." N O T Y E T "Dammit Shepard! We lost Ashley and we can't figure out where Ilos is without Liara!" O K A Y F I N E
@persona2grata
@persona2grata Год назад
The first time I played ME1 I did this without really intending to and thought this dialogue was hilarious. "I have all this knowledge to tell you about a dark threat to the galaxy!" "Yah yah, we know all that already. Reapers destroyed the Protheons, they weren't the first species to be killed like that, part of a cycle that extends back millions of years, blah blah blah."
@winternet9478
@winternet9478 3 года назад
Damn i got her last on my first playthrough😅
@NinjaGuyDan_
@NinjaGuyDan_ 3 года назад
Bruh I despise renegade Shep lol Though some of the renegade options in the later games I always take no matter what (Headbutt the Krogan, push the guy out the window, punch the quarian for trying to blow up a geth dreadnaught with you on it)
@saecula2391
@saecula2391 Год назад
@ 02:10 lol I heared this "secret dialogue" on my very first playtrough ... no romance possible any more at this time 😁
@littlemouse7066
@littlemouse7066 2 года назад
It makes sense if you don't go to save her she gets worse since she can't eat drink or move so she thinks she's allucinating which she doesn't if you go sooner. By the way male Shepard is terrible.
@206Zelda
@206Zelda 3 года назад
We lament over how wonderful these games were, and the very company that made them can't produce anything without trying to juggle real-world issues and install them into the games like a mustard stain in the 2020s. Wonderful video as always, BDG!
@cryptid4700
@cryptid4700 2 года назад
You can actually do this with just feros and noveria which I accidently did on my first playthrough
@tooprime9938
@tooprime9938 2 года назад
Fun fact I did this on my very first playthrough back in 2007 and it was confusing.
@ParavantStudio
@ParavantStudio 3 года назад
I get that ME1 is a 2007 game, but why does it look so muddy in your footage? Did you record these out of a console or did you forget to apply the proper changes to circumvent the infamous low-res bug for PC?
@Muljinn
@Muljinn 3 года назад
Actually, it looked that fuzzy when it came out in 2007.
@132james1
@132james1 2 года назад
I recruited her right before the last mission when I was cleaning up all the side missions I had before beating the game in my first play through 😂😂
@TheImapotato
@TheImapotato 2 года назад
I told her to stop whining too & rejected her advances. She then became as fleshed out as Navigator Pressly... meaning she was supposed to be the romantic partner only
@007leet
@007leet 3 года назад
I actually did this my first playthrough back in 2007
@jeonghutamilim2259
@jeonghutamilim2259 5 месяцев назад
I wonder, can you ignore Liara completely in ME1? If so, then what? Will her bones be excavated in ME3?
@bassbeardiful
@bassbeardiful Год назад
I'm doing my first playthrough of me1 ever right now and i absolutely just got this blue character lol. She was the last one i found. Also, i 100% left that dude to die. I don't enjoy staring at him in elevators nearly as much as the ashley chick.
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