After Angela Rayner's speech at the TUC conference, we caught up with ballet extraordinaire Mick Lynch to see what he made of the pledge. Subscribe to our new podcast now, or you're a silly goose: linktr.ee/pubcast
@@nicks4934 Corbyn and Lynch both have more substance and passion for the working class in their little fingers than a thousand Kier Starmers put together.
If driving away inward investment from our shores and convincing the British workforce that striking and industrial disruption is good for the country, then by all means make this little loony lefty head the Labour government. Lynchmob will promote Labour's misguided belief that striking and squandering other people's money will advance the welfare of the nation. ''RED RAB'' along with his union subservices destroyed our once thriving motor industry and saw some of the best designed and engineered automobiles in the world go bankrupt or fall into foreign hands. Yes sirree Bob, Lynchmob would make a brilliant Labour Prime Minister. Very sad that such a destroyer of jobs is still being ''given platform'' from which to spew his anti-British rhetoric.
Absolutely not, Mick is fighting for fair and just pay and conditions as it stands, becoming PM he would have to have a more cautious approach to the masses.
We have and respect freedom of speech/expression. Do I agree with him on Brexit? No, but that's because we all have differing opinions. On what he said in this video, I agree with him as I'm sure many others will. On your point about P&O I see it as a weakening of unions due to the rise of Neoliberalism has hampered their ability to resist the bourgeoisie. I do think they should have fought harder.
The most important British man in generations in my opinion. The only person showing what real leadership looks like. edit - This is not totally fair to some others but I feel he's the only one left that has a chance to evoke real change needed.
@vincentblack7467 he does, he's a hard socialist. The EU protects private enterprise and prohibits socialist industries that's his personal reasoning. he definitely stands up for the working class.
RMT backs Brexit. No-one challenges it on the single biggest act of national self-harm since Suez. Question the RMT on Brexit- interview coming soon in a parallel universe. Look forward to it.
"They're not going to put me in prison, I hope." That says a lot about how precarious our society is becoming. Not long ago, a hesitant "I hope" would be unheard of in this model of democracy. Now we can't help but have a niggling thought in the back of our minds that the prospect, though unlikely, is possible. The business of politics is getting extreme.
It seems that Brexit was basically a power-grab by the Tories. Ever since they have been desperate to strip away our rights and protections, and even environmental protections. The Tories are basically a cancer destroying everything they touch.
I'm not sure about the RMT but Unite has in its internal rulebook that they will not take breaking the law off the table if taking industrial action breaks the law. They will allow votes that would break the law and if those votes pass they will commit to breaking the law. It's genuinely not beyond the realm of possibility that, in the event that that happened, that the union bosses would be arrested.
Don't see him being interviewed in mainstream media these days. They were sick of having their arse kicked.😂😂😂 This is the beauty of RU-vid and outlets like Joe Politics that keep giving a voice to people like Mick who is always worth listening too. I feel more inforned after listening to Mick Lynch for 10 minutes than having any of the 24 hour news channels on nonstop. Keep up the good work Mick.
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 Not so. The Tories won't win the next General election no chance. What they'll try to do is block voting on law changes by filling the Lord's up with 'their' people and as Boris Johnson and liz Truss are able to nominate loads of Lords each, (and Sunak) a first for British polotics Your taxes will go to the Rich people. The Rich people do not care about what's right only money.
@@dickymint8603 hell no to reform that's a party for the crazy old folk 🤣🤣. I'm snp but if English I would give the greens a try can't do much worse ... You won't know till you try..we did it in Scotland and I'm happy with the snp
Exactly: Zero Hour contracts should be outlawed. We've had rights chipped away and ridiculous levels of security and payment due to this. It got worse and worse as a kind of race to the bottom. Mr Lynch has integrity and something lacking in the UK these days and especially in the lack lustre government as it stands at this time.
Is there any benefit (in ZHC) to workers? Asking as I have no idea on the subject. I assume there must be some reason why people take them, given that the job market is still fairly strong (albeit, on the knife edge)
@@MatthewMopo lots of people can't get anything else... Also, many people don't even realise that they are on zero hour contracts due to extremely sketchy contracts. One benefit would be for people who are only looking to work "now and then" (i.e "Bank" workers). However, it should be illegal for people to have regular work that is not properly contracted.
When the working class is ascendant ,suffering decreases , when the capitalist class are ascendant , suffering increases . 50 years of neoliberal carnage is long enough, we must rise. If Starmer doesn't deliver then we must bring the country to a standstill , the working class cannot endure another period of austerity politics and brutal class war , we must act collectively and decisively if Labour fails us. And Starmer does not fill me with any kind of hope whatsoever.
Mick Lynch really does speak with so much clarity and sense, he has a great ability to be able to speak off the cuff with such authority unlike tory MPs and their ministers. Its no wonder the transport sectary is scared stiff of getting into any negotiations with Mick, he has even said he would be happy to negotiate on TV with him for all to see. In fact all tory ministers have shown that they are scared stiff of going into any negotiations with any professional union negotiators, these tory's are just all scared of being shown up to be the wet lettuces, charlatans, cowardly incompetence's they really all are.
It's so refreshing to hear someone like Mick Lynch bringing back the sort of language that's off limits for labour party politicians. You don't hear them mention class struggle but he does!
Hey, most of our overhyped ''class struggle'' went out with Nelson's eye. However, in common with all the world's nations there exists a hierarchy of those who have inherited or earned their position on top of the heap. The Royal Family represent those whose privilege of birth automatically assigns them to the upper echelons of the society upon which they leech. Those whose capabilities, be they academic or entrepreneurial, deserve to enjoy the bounty which their talents and hard work have produced. Losers only see the comparative lavish lifestyles of the high achievers but opt not to observe the slavish devotion to their work these successful winners have to endure to stay at the top of the first division of the competition of life.
@@Berlitz81 and yet so many on the lowest rungs of society work hard every day of their lives and don’t get to live in luxury. This is where these kinds of “work hard and be rewarded” fantasies fall on their face. For example, I don’t work very hard, and never really did during education, but was lucky in what I found easy & intuitive and was lucky enough to be born in an era of computers and data ruling everything, so I’ve just bought a 3 bedroom house at 29. Not rich by any means, but so much more than huge numbers could hope for even if they work hard every day at what they are good at. Generational wealth needs to be tackled, but this myth about working hard leading to being decently well off needs to die. We’d all be in a bad place without people doing the jobs we pay a pittance for. We need to do better by the people who do that work.
@@Berlitz81'first division in the competition of life' is a twisted way to see our existence. That's why as humans we differentiate from animals, because we have compassion for others who are in vulnerable circumstances. Unless you're a tory
Of course life is a fierce and brutal competition. We have tried to artificially soften the harsh realities of life for the weak minded and nature's cream puffs but what we've ended up with is a couple of generations of workshy idlers who feel the world owes them a living. Such people as typified as you. We're in a global market where our competitors are tougher, and through necessity more enterprising than us. The work ethic and sense of self-reliance has been bred out of us by the **UNIONS**, wokes and the radical lefties. Our traditional industries such as the automobile industry, ship building and heavy engineering in general have all but been eliminated by our foreign competitors who can;- out work us, out design us, outlast us, out fight us, out talk us and even out breed us. The weak cannot be made stronger by making the strong weaker. The **COMPETITION OF LIFE** starts at school where the high performers will be sieved out from the low-achievers and be educated at a higher level and faster pace than more mentally obtuse. After the high achievers graduate from formal education they continue to outperform their slower peers and usually secure the top posts relevant to their preferred specialities. The losers, such as you, then shout, gender, class or racial privilege is the only reason why these elitist fat cats are at the top of the first division in the **COMPETITION OF LIFE**. No dear boy, such winners are way up there because they're superior to the likes of you. In the long run mother nature's **NATURAL SELECTION** process of any animal species, including humans, will come out on top as it is vital that the weak will diminish or perish so the strong can multiply and improve the species. Try to grasp the realities of the world in which you live dear boy and recognise that reality will always trump romantic liberalism. @@lose8447
The fact is that Mick Lynch is the real bastard in the woodpile. This Union lowlife tries to sell the false narrative that his fight is with the executives of the corporations which run most of Britain's railways. When British Rail was owned and run by the democratically elected government of the country the Unions effectively put a halt to the modernisation and upgrading of our rail network through their endless strikes and overtime bans. It was the Unions that destroyed the once great British Motor Industry with the likes of ''RED RAB'' whipping 1000s of mindless donkey jacket clad zombies into a STRIKE MENTALITY for the least little gripe. Unions, as typified by Mick Lynch and his ''LYNCH-MOB'', are nothing more than job destroying, economic doomsday machines.
I often wonder what kind of society we will have if the asset stripping and automation is allowed to run its course, while the rights of individuals and their champions are removed or made impossible to exist. This seems to be the current goal of the 'Conservative' governments across the world. It's through people like Mick Lynch that workers and society is put back in the picture and questions are asked. So important, so underrated and very much ignored by the masses. Thank you PoliticsJOE for reporting and giving a platform for these big questions. The like and comment here is to help boost the YT algorithm so your channel is seen.
One good solar flare, back to the dark age's. The Tories haven't the forsight on automation to have a plan for what ifs. Only acceptable losses for when not if technology fails. You can't Nuke a solar flare.
@igavinwood Well said my friend, we need a total reform in the political system in our country, they have had their own way for centuries, It must become the peoples turn very soon or do we have to hang around to watch them wreck themselves and us utterly, history tells us it will happen at some point. I have a feeling we are pretty darn close!! Peace and Love to You my Friend.
100% right. The modern digital age has become a terrible tyranny to the working class. I’m not just referring to more modern electronic ways of working. I’m talking about the massively increased monitoring of workers, made possible by the digital age. This is often “smuggled” in by employers, under the guise of health and safety etc.
Western Governments are mere puppets/actors - SELECTED to implement the agendas of the NWO - WEF - UN -WHO - ie Globalist NWO Slavery policies and of course a massive depop agenda.
@@davidpryle3935 That's a really good point you make, I am sick to death of hearing how everything is for our own good, when it's blatantly not! It's like living in a dystopian nightmare.
I used to vote Tory, however with the naked greed and profiteering that proliferates in large corporations, private companies encroaching in public services and their bosses more concerned with looking after their shareholders than customers and in many cases their workforce, I have no intention of voting for another Conservative government. Radicle reform is needed to move the dial back to where it should be. Mick Lynch is a highly intelligent man with an eye for detail. I support him in his endeavors,
That's no excuse for past voting for the Cons. Don't come here bleating all sack cloth and ashes and playing the penitent. Your up to your neck so don't expect any quarter you deserve none.
@@ijc9984 agreed but the same has to be said of voters of the treacherous Labour party, the enemy of the working class since the miners strike of 1984.
"I see life as a permanent scrummage! You're either on the side that is pushing in favour of working people and progressive politics or you're pushing the other way for the forces of reaction." What a great quote!
My thoughts exactly,I was a union rep for the TGWU years ago,I've watched the detrioration since Thatcher,and it needs to go.If we asked for a rise in those days,the unions had the right to look at the employers books to see if a rise was possible.
Unfortunately,people in general have bigoted ideas on unions,they can't see past the end of their noses.They actually were taken in by Thatchers bullshit.@@boota1979
He is nowt more than a typical subversive lefty . He is out to bring back the dark days of union bully boy intimidation & strikes of the 1970 ‘s . He is a shifty Herbert trying to hold the country’s train set & public to ransom .
All public infrastructure should be run and owned as cooperatives. It’s the best way to keep them out of the hands of greedy business owners and rubbish governments.
Unite reps love you mate. We have a new union occuring within our company for members and we have recognistion now. It's a huge learning curve for new reps, but we are commited and are going to do the best for our members we can. You are a true inspiration and lets pray that we can finally get rid of this corrupt out of touch conservative government.
Have you noticed they say "anti business" when they mean "we want to treat people like slaves and profit is all that counts?" That's not business. That's greed.
The origins of the Labour party is rooted in democratic socialism, whereby the needs of the many are democratically represented through the members and unions. It aimed to develop a bottom up approach that fed the needs of the working people up to the policy makers and politicians. However, since Blair , the voice from the people has steadily been drowned out by the Corporate class. The popularity of Corbyn made them panic to such an extent, that they purged left leaning members from local constituencies and selection long lists and those not loyal to neo-liberalism. What you have now is a party that is nearly devoid of pluralism and risks becoming an ideological dead end when their Tory (light) policies fail to work, who themselves are unable to govern. But, like Brexit, sometimes lessons need to be lived in order to learned.
The monitoring of giant company profits should be available for us all to see, and the salaries paid to the top people should be capped at half a million pounds, irrespective of the company's profits. The top people have just had an increase of half a million pounds. They don't need that kind of pay rise, the real workers DESERVE a decent pay rise, they earn their wage, do the top people earn their salaries, definitely not. The time has come to raise workers wages to what they should be. Austerity increases crime, shoplifting and burglary rates rise significantly. We need rid of the greedy tory thieves who are holding the country back and neglecting all of the services that we were once proud of. Once the greed party have been kicked into touch, there's no reason why things should not improve for everyone.
These companies behave like children that have been put in charge of the house keeping money. They spend it all on toy's and sweets. Not accepting that there's expenses such as rent to pay.
Lynch is a joke, kiers will welch on his manifesto, workers will lose rights. We lost many workers rights when we left the EU, Lynch voted leave and voted for bojo.
It's the first thing I checked for once this popped up on my feed. By the sounds of it, Labour's plan is pretty tentative as it is but that still doesn't seem good enough for the MSM.
I think Mick's mentor Bob Crow was right in his call for a political party formed by the working people for the people, something we havent had and still need, in this country since 1970s. R.i.p Bob Crow 🙏
We have had that, the original Labour Party was formed by working people for the people. And then it was hijacked and destroyed by a bunch of charlatans who disbanded it and replaced it with the plastic toryblairite generic politics nu-labour tory2 party in waiting - where it makes no odds who you vote for, the greedy capitalists always win!
That would be the worst thing the Unions could do. Governments can break Unions far easier than Unions can break governments. The evidence is all around you. Red Tories, what a ludicrous comment. Who are Labour's Johnson, Mogg, Braverman, Patel, Gullis, 30p Lee ? None of you that spout such nonsense can ever answer that question.
Lynch is supporting and advocating voting for Labour, singing the praises of the New Deal fo Working People, praising Labour's plans to bring the railways into public ownership, reintroducing sectoral bargaining, getting rid of the anti union laws from the last 10 years, outlawing zero hours contracts.. Who the f**k are these red Tories you're whining on about... ?? Time you grew up...
My job got outsourced to India recently and I was made redundant. Here's an inside tip, if you are talking to your TV, mobile or broadband provider on chat, and they have a typical British name but their English is terrible, I've seen this first hand: they are Indian staff that are given a British "work name." British staff lose their jobs, foreign staff are degraded and get paid pennies, big business makes a fool out of everybody.
@silondon9010, That's the "benefit" of privatization courtesy of globalization in which the puppet EU oligarchs through it's unelected "commision" dictate your law and economic policy. In other words the policy of removing every public service and replace it with economic destruction so the controllers get a bit more billions. The EU is a sham and fraud and that's putting it more than mildly. It is a subservient and most important part of the war-for-profit party. Ask yourselves who blew up the Norstream 2? A supply of cheap gas to Europe could not be tolerated. Much better to bring LNG from America at four times the price. In US gasoline (petrol) has now almost doubled in price from 2 and a half years ago. Some Inflation" but wonderful for the owners of the oil companies. Terrible for the ordinary people food prices going higher and higher and jobs disappearing--real jobs replaces by 2 three hour shifts with no health coverage. Trillions for war but no money for housing--only for speculators. Millions homeless but "all is well. Truly bread and circuses but with less bread for more and more people. A dystopian, Orwellian world run by (supposedly) a Zombie-like "gentleman." The promised "carrot" has become a stick nay a "firestick" as the unfortunate Sioux and Cheyenne and Apache saw to their cost long ago. The "empire" took it's first steps 70 years ago secured a firm footing in Nov. 1963 and has expanded rapidly and ruthlessly since and has stalled at the Russian border. The question is...will it got out with a whimper or more realistic a nuclear winter and the end of almost all life on this, our only home in the only time we have or could ever have. The end. I am not religious but may "your god go with you."
@@nicks4934: Lynch is clearly better than a large percentage of politicians which is why you'll see many say that he's currently acting as the real opposition to the Tories and why he should form his own political party. He's an excellent communicator, has principles that he adheres to, has a good understanding of the dynamic forces that drive society, is able to negotiate, has real world experience outside of the Westminster bubble...the list goes on.
Mick lynch is a very eloquent and knowledgeable man, who speaks nothing but sense. The way he looks out for his members and all workers is nothing but admirable.
At the NHS trust where I work all cleaning, catering & portering went through ISS & another of the big private providers before all being brought back in house due to their failure to deliver an acceptable standard of service. Trouble is doing this was effectively the last resort not the preferred option. How many times does privatisation have to fail before it's accepted that it does not work...
'you can't run away from that' they have ran away from almost every pledge/promise. Starmer has prevented me from trusting anything he or his cabinet say.
They haven't though it's just spin from the media. You will only be able to say this when they have been in power. Labour will not say anything leading up to an election that the media and tories can spin as extreme left policies as it will put off the floating voters, who if you follow history decide elections.
As a graduate in my 20's looking to work towards self employment in 2016, I was just able to support myself on my cleaning job. That was until a new contractor took over and hours were halved overnight, forcing me to give up my flat and move in with my then partner's family. What was intended to be a stop gap post grad job whilst I worked on putting my university degree to use, has turned in to a 7 year nightmare of being swept around like a used tissue. Fortunately, I've been able to switch sector due to some previous voluntary experience with Cit Advice (big respect for the work they do btw), but for many this just isn't a reality. I'm also saddled with student debt for a degree I've been too side tracked and diverted, by trying to meet my most basic needs, to develop on. It's been a huge wake up slap as a woman trying to support herself interdependently, and one I'll never be able to look at British society in the same way for. If you're a woman from a low skilled background, have "unproductive" qualifications, or are from outside of the UK, it's virtually impossible to meet ends unless you have a partner with a main income or share accommodation with others that can pool resources.
If a Labour government gets in, we need the likes of Mick to ensure they will deliver and not just say it to get elected, which is one of the major criticisms I have of Starmer’s Labour, they’ve said the electorally convenient thing, they have not been afraid of u-turning when it suits.
As so many other commenters have said: Mick Lynch is a fine example of leadership. I don’t agree with all of his views (some of which are likely in the past), but he speaks so much sense, and he seems to understand the need to present a United front against neoliberal stupidity.
Mick Lynch’s legendary predecessor at the RMT, the late Bob Crowe, used to refer to EU workers rights, as “a veneer of socialism, riddled with opt outs, on a neoliberal capitalist nightmare”.
We need to break this idea that in-house recruitment - on contracts - is "inefficient", or that every facet of a business can be automated to make it "competitive". Always amuses me when the self-employed types come out of the woodwork to lecture about how great the free market is. Then get surprised when they're priced out by monopoly mega-companies, that they can't compete with.
Incredible interview. What a communicator. Totally agree with him on the need for insourcing and how business could benefit the many rather than the few/Tories. His faith in Labour delivering on their promises gives me a little more confidence in them as a party. I do feel like i have no one to vote for at times 😞
Wow - why oh why is this man not running the country? On reflection, just as well he isn't, directly at least. The rest of us need need his astute understanding of not only how 'things' are but how to progress towards how they could become without puffing up him/ourselves with abstract notions promising eternal wish-fulfilling conditions for all. However inspirational the latter may be, imagination like religion should remain a private matter to be en joyed and its own right, not imposed.
@@stevebrooks6275 do you have a more adult response? So far Starmer has broken every promise he made. Plenty of people said the adult choice at the last one was Boris. Really when will be actually take politics seriously and elect someone who isn't a proven liar?
@@stevebrooks6275 yeah, well if you think being an adult is taking a proven liar at their word then no wonder this country is in such a mess. You just keep clapping on the next neo-liberal knights of the realm
Mick you're a hero. Thank you for your relentless pursuit of trying to unite the working class to stand and fight for fair pay and working conditions ✊
We should be able to vote for no confidence in U.K. politics. The entire system needs a total rethink. For instance: How can you be head of a cabinet department when you have no experience at all in that field. Surely a health minister needs to have actually worked in the health system before etc
Mick is very eloquent and knows uis job and position inside out. I also think he is a realist, and he knows he'll have to work hard on Starmer. But at least they are talking about change, and a plan. Thats something this present government haven't had since coming to power in 2010.
Let's hope so. I find it hard to believe that word that comes out of any politicians mouth! Labour will have to do a lot to win back my trust, and the gruel and contempt they are currently offering isn't sufficient!
@@gio-oz8gfhow many broken pledges ???? are people really so stupid to ignore how much to the right and how many tory policies kid starver seems to want to keep????
@gio-oz8gf Not offering public sector pay rises in line with inflation, no more money for the NHS, further privatisation of the NHS and freezing energy bills at the existing sky high levels. In terms of contempt, lying about everything they stood for is a sign of contempt for the public. Also, look at their briefings against the left of their own party. A great sign of contempt for their own voter base!
Double time Sundays time and a half Saturday's treble time bank holiday. Working class are being taken for mugs .wears that all gone in the shareholders pockets.
Like many Trade Unionists Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey voted to Leave. Their decision to leave the EU was a different leave than that of the rich Tories in the Shires -it was to defend their rights against cheap EU labour.
Would you trust anything Mick Lynch says, because he says it's important to get behind Labour in the run up to the next GE and he likes their proposals in the New Deal for Working People.... perhaps you ought to read it....
Great interview and so good to hear Mick Lynch speak with such calmness and humility. I wish we had someone of his character in politics here in New Zealand. On the question of business vs workers.. I wonder what the market value of the weekend is? Weekends that would not exist were it not for workers fighting for the forty hour week. My point is that without people having more than just the bare means to survive, there is no market…. All this profit extracted from society by the uber wealthy and the corporations is eventually cutting off the branch they’re standing on.
"you're not going to get it in the first year or first term" Not saying this isn't reality, but this is 2023 - it shouldn't take this long. Especially since I strongly feel Starmer is going to screw it all up in his first term and leave us with the worst tories ever
@@keithparker1346 from GOV UK: You must have worked for your employer for a minimum period before you qualify for the right to claim unfair dismissal at a tribunal. If you’re classed as an employee and started your job: on or after 6 April 2012 - the qualifying period is normally 2 years before 6 April 2012 - the qualifying period is normally 1 year
@@ozzie2612 pretending that both parties are the same is a tactic of Tory supporters, and disillusioned far-left voters. They are not the same. This new deal is radical and Mick is rightly excited
I think that he's best not in government and there to hold Politicians feet to the fire.. What we do need is a media class that is willing to do the same, and supposed journalists that aren't preoccupied with trying to get a future job in parliament as press advisors...
Labour needs to work with the Unions to get this country bk on track?but all the damage the Tories has done cant be fixed overnite its goin to take a long time nd publicneed to work with them nd not complain when things not done overnite?we all need to work nd stick 2gether?
Seems that Mick has taken on board what the Labour Party are saying. Lynch has clearly said that people need to get behind the Party for the next GE. Mick's supporters need to listen to the sense he's speaking...
He said sectoral bargaining and not sexual bargaining. I was imagining agricultural workers with big hands and sack like trousers trying to sell their bodies.
If Labour is to stand a shadow of a chance, they had better come off the fence and decide to set themselves against the WEF Net Zero, and WHO, say as much in simple terms, and bloody well stick to it from day 1. Personally I think they will be worse than the current arseholes.