MORE Cut Content of the Vs. Games - Capcom Vs. Legacy 

Agreed, and thanks for bringing it to my attention; I'll pin your post so it can get maximum visibility. I'd rather have someone point out if I get something wrong than not saying anything at all, since misinformation defeats the purpose of a video like this. Thanks again!

Riki-oh is so FREAKING underrated. The manga is so dope and I hope we get an anime adaptation in the future (yes I know about the OVAs). But yes, OP is very correct.

@@XxKeNoHxX I've only ever seen the movie adaptation. I should really look into the original manga sometime.

I heard that wasnt his only inspiration, he was also inspired by yasunori kato from teito monogatari, but more on the ability aspect

Same! We know it got composed and everything, so it's probably just a matter of an older build surfacing. Might be a long shot, but so was even finding visual evidence of Ock in the first place.

Mvc3 music slaps so hard so im really hoping it leaks eventually

If it ever gets announced

"Everybody is Here?" What number of playable heroes are we describing for MvC4?

Completely unrealistic

Exactly! Sometimes a bit of exposure is all a series really needs; speaking of Smash, Ness is another good one; there's probably an entire generation of Nintendo fans that only know about EarthBound because of him being in the series. I actually tried to get into Fire Emblem for the longest time because I mained Marth from Melee to Smash 4 where I switched to Lucina, but had trouble adjusting to the series, since strategy RPGs trip me up a lot. I got recommended Awakening on 3DS not too long ago, and I finally "get" the series now. Probably wouldn't have made the effort if I didn't think the characters seemed cool in Smash!

Seriously. The series has made way more obscure pulls than BoF before. The fact that they had Nina pretty much all planned out and she was one of the final cuts is so bittersweet. Here's hoping a new Vs. game happens at some point and the series finally gets its due!

@@TheSeventhForce Street Fighter 6 includes several shout outs to BoF for example.

Yeah, the World Tour NPCs in Nayshall having BoF names was cool, but Fou-Lu more or less being a superboss (and the English version even gives him the manner of speech he had in the PS1 localization!) blew me away. Good to know there's some BoF fans on the SF team.

@@TheSeventhForce it's not that there were BoF fans on the SF team, but it was that the main writer for BoF, Makoto Ikehara, was the one that worked on the story mode.

@@TheSeventhForce Yeah someone on the Capcom team is definitely a fan. In my world tour mode I made Ryu from breath of fire 4. At least they still acknowledge it at least, just wish we got a new entry or just them in more crossovers. World Tour was a nice love letter for the series.

That's a pretty interesting possibility! I know for sure the assets for Batsu and Hinata in Kyosuke's super is all that exist for them in the data, but I'm not sure about Yang. There's some concept art for Hayato in MvC2 showing that June was supposed to either show up in a super or in a special move for him, though at least one of those sprites stuck around for his win pose.

@@TheSeventhForce I didn't know that regarding Hayato, that would've been interesting. Excellent video as always btw!👍

@@marlz11 Thank you!

That would have been awesome ! I’ve always found it odd that Spidey has such a rich rogues gallery/supporting characters but outside of Venom haven’t been included in a Vs game. I think Green Goblin, Black Cat, Kraven the Hunter, Morbius or Mysterio would have been good inclusions. There is actually a really impressive mugen featuring Spidey and his rogues gallery/supporting characters it’s definitely entertaining :)

Yeah, I never actually thought about how the tentacles could've operated. Could've made for a really inventive gimmick.

Actually since Josh Keaton voiced Spidey in MVC3, I feel like it would've made sense to have Doc Ock's VA from Spectacular Spider-Man return as well.

Power Stone characters would be such a perfect fit for a traditional fighting game. Rouge almost got in TvC, but the devs said there was too much crossover with another character. (They never said who, but I always assumed Soki; He's the only character on the roster with a transformation gimmick, and that's kind of mandatory for a Power Stone character)

Yeah, it's a funny explanation considering this is a series famous for giving even the most obscure characters (Jin, Shuma, Hayato, etc.) a fanbase. All a character really needs to be is cool to be memorable!

Yeah MvC2 was one of the first video games i ever played and at that point the only characters I knew of on Marvel's end were just Spiderman, Hulk and a couple X-Men. And it was my introduction to Capcom just... In general outside of Power Stone lol. Idk why they think a few character not being recognizable is an issue, when this could be the title that MAKES them recognized and even mainstay favs

It would've been really cool! Maki is still a great add (especially since it led to her being very slightly more prominent in the SF universe), but still.

And also in the background of a SF3 stage! I think small unnamed background cameos probably gave Capcom enough plausible deniability to sneak her in there without getting in trouble.

Yeah, as far as the series trying new protagonists go, he's one of my favorites (Rashid's pretty great, too). If we're somehow fortunate enough to get a new Vs. game, I imagine there'd probably be a SF6 character over SF3 (more than likely either Luke or Kimberly; the latter I'd actually be really happy about).

If we get a fighter-centric crossover we are likely to get some representation like in SFxT or CvS2. The closest thing to them being in a traditional Vs. series context have been TvC as you mentioned as well as Pocket Fighter and SvC Chaos. SFV has yet to even get in a fighter-centric crossover.

@@TheLightBringerX I agree wholeheartedly, in all honesty. I’d say the 3S cast ironically might be more popular now than they were back then.

@@TheLightBringerX I honestly wish modern games would dial it back, as I don’t like the game being about landing long combos tbh. SF3 isn’t my favorite series but there’s a lot of cool characters. Hope we see some characters from 3 in another VS game (Alex and Remy pleeeaaase)

If your a fan of Alex I recommend the Street Fighter Unlimited comic series, He's one of the main protagonists of that book.

It seems like Marvel 3 aside, they generally like to use one main Megaman per game and then stick in supporting characters. That said, it doesn't surprise me that Volnutt in particular was chosen, considering the Legends games are probably second only to Classic Megaman in terms of wearing its Tatsunoko influences on its sleeve. The Bonne family are send ups of the Skull Trio in Time Bokan, and Volnutt was even revealed for TvC alongside Doronjo!

@@TheSeventhForce Also, CvS didn’t have Megaman at all (SvC Chaos had MMZ, who was a main character) and both of MvC3’s picks had been main characters in their own games.

Probably some aspects of shuma Gorath and Omega Red

That does make things considerably easier, yeah. Though a re-release of Alien Vs. Predator would be sweet, too. Only way to get it these days is buying that big arcade stick with pre-loaded games Capcom put out a while back.

Yeah, for sure. I'm still very salty Alien VS Predator wasn't included in the Capcom Beat 'em Up Collection.

Thank you! Those two are two of my favorites in the FGC space too, they do fantastic work covering overlooked topics. It's always a great day when either of them drop a video.

The MvC dream roster you were wanting is basically something similar to Card Fighter Clash 2, right?

A MvC equivalent of Hyper Street Fighter II/Alpha built off of MvC2 is something I've always thought would be cool, though it'd probably be unfeasible for a number of reasons. From a technical standpoint, my understanding is that MvC2's underlying source code is kind of a mess that tangles itself in knots the more you try to untangle it, probably due to years of building on top of other Vs. games (Even CvS1 has leftover MvC2 code/assets in it!) The studio that ported it to PS3/360 way back when had an interesting interview about it some years ago.

Very Interesting, I had no idea just adding to the game would be so hard. @@TheSeventhForce

Jump Vs. Capcom is the dream! Probably a licensing nightmare, though.

@@TheSeventhForce Considering the number of licensable and even indie characters appearing in other games, I think that an 'Everyone is here' scenario could be possible. ^_^ ,b And, considering how some conglomerates(' products) are doing these days, I'm sure that some 'good will' would be beneficial in the(ir) long run. ~_^ Still, would you want - characters like Mario, Creepie Creecher, Breakbone (from Kayko & Kokosh) and Pico (from Newgrounds) in (a heavily expanded version of) Smash or Jump Ultimate Stars? - Megas XLR, Dy-Na-Mo (from Powerpuff Girls), a giant Solid Tin Coyote (from a certain Road Runner short) and various Transformers in a Super Robot Wars title? - all of the above and many other cartoon/anime, comic book/manga and video game characters appearing in a jRPG, racing game or other 'infinitely expandable' game( type)? Considering what's been happening over the last several years (if not decades), having Garfield meet Snoopy and Sonic (and/or some Freedom Fighters) crush some Daleks wouldn't be unwelcome. ^_^ The (im)possibilites are truly endless.

Thanks! I'm basically a well of useless trivia lol

@@TheSeventhForce Not useless to me! lol

Hell yeah, breakfast for dinner. And thanks for watching! I'm glad my videos are decent enough to watch over dinner, haha

That was really tricky to put together, but I'm proud of it all the same, lol. I'm glad someone noticed it!

Thank you so much!

Sorry! 😅The plan actually was to have this out by 6pm EST, but ran into some major issues with my editing program during the rending process that I spent the afternoon sorting out.

@@TheSeventhForce Just finished the video. Comfy ass, good ass video as usual! And seeing that Doc Oct got my cock as hard as a rock. Uncovering 3D renders of unused characters is like seeing a dinosaur in real life, its insane!

That Dinosaur analogy is PERFECT, haha

Yeah, with folks like Neo_G, Niitsuma and Ryota Suzuki off at different companies these days, Itsuno's one of the few fighting game producers from the old guard still at the company. I'd love to see one more fighting game from him before he eventually retires. (Still looking forward to Dragon's Dogma II, though!)

Extra note: There's some similarities between Rival Schools' and MVC's System Engine. Itsuno may not been involved on MVC but he has the exact expirience to move on this "future" project.

Request: Can you make an Analysis Video separated for V.Joe, Amaterasu and Saki?

I really wonder what they were cooking with him. One thing I don't think TvC and MvC3 get enough credit for is how many characters in both games manage to have character specific unique mechanics that compliment the character's playstyle instead of being overly gimmicky.

Honestly? I'm mulling over expanding to crossover games in general if there's enough interest. That said, I'd actually have to see if there's any known cut content for those games. Would be interesting though, I'm nearing the end of a Project X Zone playthrough, incidentally!

Breath of Fire III has one of the best soundtracks of all time. So jazzy and relaxing.

@@TheSeventhForce agreed! Shame Capcom won't remaster the main line 4.

Not as far as I know. There's a chance it could be in an earlier build, but that's still a question mark.

It's the title screen background for Marvel Vs Capcom 1! The Dreamcast version uses it as it's main menu background as well; I use it as a general background in most videos about the Vs. games.

IIRC, they tried to get Date for MvC3 as well, but that time the team in charge of Sengoku Basara straight up said they'd rather not have him in it; same thing happened with Monster Hunter in MvC3 as well.

Same here! CvS2 in particular is pretty much a fighting game sandbox, I love it to death.

I mean, they could possibly find a way to differentiate him name wise, like if BoF3 Ryu got into a crossover, they could go with Ryu (Brood) or something. MvC3 had two Phoenixes, after all. Fou-Lu would've been a great compromise given his relation to BoF4's Ryu though, yeah.

Yep. If I'm recalling right, Ultimate in particular was originally going to be a DLC expansion w/ a disc release similar to how Street Fighter IV handled expansions from Super onwards. It was a one-two combo of the earthquake affecting development and Capcom higher-ups wanting the update out by Fall 2011. Niitsuma's on record saying that if not for that latter point in particular, there'd have likely been close to twice the amount of new characters added to Ultimate.

Done! Sources are linked and categorized in the video description now. Big fan of your site, by the way! I don't always get to catch your streams, but I enjoy reading your articles when I get the chance.

@@TheSeventhForcegreat, thanks, and glad you enjoy my little website~

Lol, nothing personal against SonSon (and I appreciate her inclusion and what she represents all the same!), I'm just surprised at some of the series that got into the series instead of BoF.

Thanks for the feedback. Is there any portion of the video in particular where the music overpowered me? I try to have the music pretty low as is, so I'll tweak them further for my next video.

@@TheSeventhForceProbably, near the end when you're discussing about Doc Ock and Frank West almost being in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 vanilla.

@@skinnyweenie8679 Got it. I think I know exactly what went wrong there, shouldn't happen in the future!

Right? Maybe next time.

Idk how popular SonSon was back in the day, but the first arcade Strider game was absolutely a big deal when it released. That said (and maybe I should've mentioned this in the video) we were actually told which UMVC3 character Nina lost her prospective slot to: Firebrand.

MvC1 had the worst choice of secret characters. LOL

Arthur I think deserves his place since he's a classic Capcom IP that also should've been playable waaay before MvC3, but I'd take Nina over Frank, yeah. TvC has my favorite version of Frank, anyhow.

Devil dinosaur

Maybe Luna snow or or the or the fox

@@JuanGomez-ke5py 😯

@@JuanGomez-ke5py Thank You

*Ryu and Fou Lou from Breath of Fire IV*

More!

I'm a Disney fan, but not a fan of monopolies.

@@TheSeventhForce I have mixed feelings on Disney because on one hand there films are a huge part of my childhood and they helped shaped my love for both cinema and animation but on the other Disney owning everything is harming other film directors because Disney controls such a large share of the market to the point where it boxes out other types of movies. For example Martin Scorsese wanted release The Irishman in theaters but only got to release on Netflix because of major film studios were not willing to let Scorsese make this film with the budget he needed sure it did eventually get a release in theaters but that was only done to qualify for academy awards. I think Bob Iger is to blame for Disney becoming a big monopoly with mindset being to make money instead of making great masterpieces like Disney used to do with their movies.

Fair enough. 😂

Yeah I actually like she hulk: attorney at law

I just think it's neat!

Why are you participating in the thing you say is pointless?

who cares LMFAO, it's interesting