very good review, iv been looking in to the f3 800 and havent been able to find any long term reviews and since the 800 brutale is basically the same bike but naked i figured anything you had to say about the mechanical nature of the machine would cross over to the f3 side, so thank you
Great review, thanks very much! Very informative and reassuring as I'm currently thinking about buying one and have read some horror stories but your experience seems allright.
Yes, other than the fork seal which was replaced under warranty I had no issues with the Brutale. It is probably one of the most beautiful motorcycles out there.....in my opinion. I had no regrets with this machine. Good luck to you I hope you have the same experience, ride safe and enjoy!
Garey Cooper Thanks! Yeah I'm still on the fence, but it's high up on my list. I see you traded in the brutale for a 1100 v4 tuono, the 1000 v4 tuono is also high on my list. We shall see. Ride safe!
very interesting video , after this video i have made my choice and bought the brutale 800 :), i do have 1 question, where did you buy the overgrips to thicken up the handlegrips? kind regards
I've heard of Brutale B3's having clutch issues, but the Brutale B4's are solid bikes. What scares people is not having a dealer nearby to service it as necessary. Other than the fancy looks, they are very conventional bikes that are easily worked on. And MV Agusta made thousands of them, so parts are still plentiful
Yes, they really are good machines and as long as there is a dealer nearby, or within reasonable reach you can keep them running well. My only ownership issue was the fork seal. And the major impact of that was the fact that MV do not have a good parts storehouse in the USA. So, my replacement fork seal had to come from Italy which took a couple of weeks altogether. Is this representative for all MV's? I doubt it and I would say it shouldn't put you off owning one certainly. But, just be aware there is a "tax" so to speak on owning the more exotic type machines. At the very least this bike was so beautiful I could just stare at it in the garage.....and having just been to my local dealer, Moto Forza in Escondido they are still making very good looking machines.
Garey thank you for your great reply, I am fit basically, the other concern was what you covered which was the fueling situation , as riding in Spainish towns villages etc, as I’m retired, if it wasn’t the fueling it would be an even choice, but I believe I will go with your choice the Aprilia, if you have any further thoughts I welcome them , thanks again, really love the way you deliver your videos you’ve helped me tremendously re my biking and choice of bikes
Garey, love your videos, they have really helped me, I’m now at the point of my first purchase I’m 58 , my choices are the MV Augusta’s Dragster 800 and the Aprilia Tuono , the chances of me tracking are very limited, I live in Spain on the well known Ronda Road mountain roads, you are the best person for me to ask, which in your opinion is the better purchase, the sitting up in the Aprilia, would that give a problem, not really going to be touring a lot
So glad to have helped a fellow rider Mitchel! Both machines are beautiful, this is true....so they both win on looking good! Maybe the MV is just a little bit better looking than the Tuono, a personal opinion. But you cannot ride based upon good looks alone. Between the two I think I would choose the Tuono, personally. I also do not track or take long distance tours. So these considerations would not be part of my decision process. The Tuono is taller than the MV, so depending upon your height this could be an issue. I am 5 feet 10 inches tall and could "flat foot" the MV. I am more or less flat on one foot and the other on toes with the Aprilia. Not terrible but something to think about perhaps. The Tuono from stock has better fueling and is smoother than the MV that I had. The MV really seemed only happy when accelerating or decelerating, not on small throttle inputs, or at low or cruising speeds. The MV is more nimble, but the Tuono is only slightly less. The riding position is a bit more aggressive on the Tuono, the MV is more upright. However if you are in reasonable physical condition I don't think 3 or 4 hours in the saddle of the Tuono would be too challenging. Why would I choose the Tuono? For the money it is a better value than the MV I think. The MV's are expensive! For cruising the fueling and torque are easier on the Tuono. The Tuono motor sound is intoxicating, the V4 is quite a motor. The ride on the Tuono is marginally better in my opinion. My Brutale was fairly stiffly sprung. So if it were me it would be the Tuono! Both are great machines, hard to go wrong with either direction. Good luck to you and let me know how it goes and above all....ride safe!
@@GareyCooperdude Im in the process of replacing the starter clutch/sprag it's not a simple job and it's a sore spot with these bikes, I will sell it because of the starter issue. I made a video of my saddlesore 1000 ride on my sight, I might do the 1500 next...
Shouldn't need sealant on the flange, as filter has a rubber o'ring for sealing against the motor. I suspect it wasn't tightened correctly was more the issue. You should put a smear of oil on the rubber o'ring of the filter before fitment. Also a little WD40 on the thread of the spin on filter. When you screw the filter up you need to put a mark on the filter at a point as soon as the o'ring contacts the engine body & you feel resistance. Put a mark on the front top edge of the filter @ 12 o'clock (a line) with a felt pen (use colour that is noticeable on the filter casing). Now tighten the filter clockwise so the mark is now at 9 o'clock. You should be able to tigten it most of the way, if not all the way to 9 o'clock position by hand. If not then tighten last portion with cup tool or similar. Your filter should now be tight enough!
Hey Frank, really appreciate the well thought out response here! Though I no longer own the bike the instruction you give here is priceless and right on point sir.
Nice video. Glad u enjoying the bike. Back in October 2016 I was either picking the Brutale or the F3. (675cc versions) I went for the F3 beqause of its looks. In my opinion the best looking bike out there. I dont really care about the wristpains a bike produces. You'll get use to anything :)
Could not agree more, that F3 is just stunning. Particularly in person. It really lives up to the MV Agusta motto; "Motorcycle Art". I have also heard that the extra horsepower in the motor actually makes it a bit more tractable than the Brutale. Enjoy it and ride safe!
666JL666 I traded in my 2010 cbr1krr for the 2014 f3 800 amd it was miles better in everyway. my only negative is that its 3hrs away from ware I live. lol
Dont worry. MV Agusta got out of their debt and now brought in a big compagny who also have a passion for motorcycles. "Black Ocean Group" I believe. Lets hope the future gets brighter for MV Agusta and can expand their dealerships.
@@GareyCooperdude WOW GAREY!! What are the odds you out of all people won the Carbon Ducati V4!! I've recognised your face in Jarets video, I was like: I've seen that guy before and .... here you are. The odds man. Congratulations dude!!! Enjoy the ride ;)
@@Black_Gold_Saw I know...never thought it would happen either obviously! So over the moon about this......crazy and excited to see and ride the thing! I will post a video when I do sir. Ride safe! Enjoy that F3 dude.
3:10 A major issue within 4 months of purchase and 1 month to source a replacement part? Enough said. Thanks for the review Garey. Any idea if the newer Brutale’s are more reliable?
Sorry to be just getting to these comments/questions dude! But, my understanding is that MV Agusta has new ownership who purchased the company and are injecting cash and ideas into the entity. This should hopefully help! The problem I had with the part re-supply is that until now (or so is my understanding) MV do not have a parts warehouse in the USA. And their cash position kept the supply of spares to a minimum in Italy. We'll have to see how the new ownership handles some of these critical customer support issue. In the meantime however the bike never stranded me and always started when I wanted it to do so.......and they are beautiful.....
Sorry dude, I traded this machine in for a 2017 Aprilia Tuono...so no longer have the motorcycle.......I HAVE heard from fellow owners that the change to the engine map helps.
After 2 years of posting the comment above, i finally got my 2014 brutale 800 same color as in the video! I didn't realize that I've posted a comment here two years ago.
CGC, I cannot say if mine is typical....or just an unlucky occurrence for me. The "typical" issue reported for MV Brutale's of this era is a clutch problem. I no longer own this motorcycle so other than that one issue it was very reliable for me.
@@GareyCooperdude well, Mv are a small factory where bikes are made allmost by hand..something rare ourdays. It is understandable they do not have the same perfection as Honda or BMW have
@@c.g.c2067 yes, and their machines are like rolling art.....beautiful. As I say overall mine was quite relabel...the real downside to ownership of these machines is that to my knowledge there is no USA based parts warehouse. Most parts need to come from Italy...and least this used to be true. But, I cherish my memories of the MV and am happy to have owned it!
I’ve recently bought an 2012 Brutale 675 at the Mv Agusta Dealer in Antwerp. I’m the second owner of the bike and it had 4100 KM at the the time But already has 5000 KM on it because i use it for daily use. Good deal?
You have an "interesting" situation here! I have always thought that MV machines were generally purchased by enthusiasts who didn't use them as their primary motorcycle or commuting machine. And the previous owner(s) of your machine would seem to indicate this; 4100KM/10 years = 410KM per year average. These are good and generally robust machines. Using it as a commuter you will put more KM's on this machine than I think the "typical" buyer would. The issues are; 1. Is there a good dealer near you? It seems so, I don't know your distance to Antwerp but hopefully it is close. 2. Parts Supply. In the case of the USA this was (and maybe still is) a problem. At the time I had my machine there was no MV warehouse in the USA. One then had to rely upon the parts supply at your local dealer....you on continental Europe may have a better situation because of your proximity to Italy? Which leads to my 3rd and final comment; 3. MV has changed hands since the days of this machine. It is now under different and more well funded ownership, as I understand. But, the ability and desire of this new ownership to support older machines from the "ancien regime" might be a future concern for you...... However, I loved my little 3 cylinder Brutale (I had the 800cc) and I hope you will love yours as well.....
Forgot to add! How old are the tires on your machine? Please look at this and if they are as old as the machine...change them as soon as you can....anything else less old, you still may have to consider how safe they are in all weathers in lovely Belgium!
@@GareyCooperdude Thanks for the response! We have an Mv Agusta dealer right around the corner. To give you an update on the bike, it’s still in perfect condition, only had to fix the radiator because of a small leak, changed the rubbers for the rear sprocket. Further more no issues and allready have 12.000 KM on it so it’s time for a valve check!
Yes, with the GoPro set on "wide" or "Superview" you get what is called the "fisheye" effect that makes it look like a tunnel or as you say a submarine. I need to learn to use the more appropriate settings for interior shots when not doing a VLOG outdoors. This was also done some years ago using the GoPro 4 I recall. This generation is even more pronounced in this effect. Thanks for the constructive criticism.
Hello Cristian, I am not sure what you mean here? Are you looking at one that is currently for sale at $8K? Or, do you think that one MIGHT be had for $8K? I would say that with all MV's see if you can discover if there are well kept service records for the bike, and if it has been dealer serviced a call to the dealer to see if they can comment on this particular machine is a good idea. 4500 miles is not a lot for this machine. The biggest complaint I've heard about this series of MV's is the clutch. And you might check to see if this machine has had the clutch replaced at this stage? I never had problems with mine other than what is mentioned in my VLOG here. My last comment on the MV in general is that I am not sure if this should be an "only" machine. Or, appropriate as a daily use machine. For an occasional rider, they are a beautiful choice with lots of fun to be had. And, how close is the nearest MV Agusta dealer..... Best of luck to you!
@@moila81 This machine is beautiful....fun just to look at in the garage......but, you should definitely try it first in my opinion. 6 feet and 3 inches is on the tall side for this machine. Good luck and ride safe!
I think that's insane to pay that much for insurance, but then I always buy used bikes and I only get Liability on them. I figure if I wreck it, it's not worth it to pay to get it fixed, I'll just get another one. Making a claim will only raise my rates.
@@GareyCooperdude 21 st.You, 17th.? The US is one of the only countries using this out dated system. Even NASA works in metric. Otherwise enjoyed your review.
@@donaldgoodinson7550 Oh, I took the comment in fun Donald no worries! I just couldn't resist a retort being the goof that I am. Actually we do lag the world here in the US by not making the switch to metric. I did note in the UK that distances are still commonly referred to in miles oddly enough. My biggest impediment is being an old guy who has spent many decades thinking fractions of an inch...LOL. Take care and ride safe!
@@GareyCooperdude Thanks Gary. I too was brought up with the Imperial system until I saw the error of my ways.LOL. I think the UK is changing ,I was there 3 years ago and they slowly but surely seemed to be coming around.I lived there in the 1960s and what a performance when they changed the pound,shilling and pence into the metric system. One could have been forgiven for thinking WW3 had begun. Love the MV Augusta but bloody expensive here with little after sales service. Guess I will have to stick with my Honds CBR 600f.Nice bike.
I was lucky I guess in my ownership.....but we know that these machines are really not for all. And, I've heard enough to know that they are "iffy" in terms of reliability. They really are "pretty" in terms of design, but one has to say that they are more about the design/look rather than being any kind of daily rider type machine. Very sorry you had the experience that you did with the machine. P.S. Personal note here, I see the scar below my eye here which I received when my 7 year old grand daughter hit me with a golf club, luckily missed my eye, and now am healed.....LOL.
