MY JOURNEY#7:ME VS. JEFF DURBIN: TRINITY? TRUE OR FALSE? Slanderous Attacks on the Church, answered! 

I was having a conversation with some reformed protestants. It went nowhere they eventually removed me from the group. I was defending our belief in Heavenly Mother. I brought up the passage of 'let us make men in our image' our is plural. And also brought up the fact Christ refers to God as our Father. And can there be a Father without a Mother? Anyways evangelical Christianity made me an atheist because of how cringe and unserious it was with accepting Jesus into your heart. Glad I finally found the Gospel and know a God who has flesh and bones.

Hello again David, Thanks for speaking the truth in love!! I loved the excellent explanation of the apostasy that occurred in the 4+ centuries after the authority and the gospel as taught by the Apostles was taken from the earth. Speaking of authority, I am sure you know this passage very well - John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, the are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained. Imagine that, men who were given Christ's priesthood authority had the power to forgive and retain sins!! This is part of sincere repentance, or lack thereof, of course. Also, as you mentioned in this video, another way our sins are remitted is through repentant baptism. Both are further proof that the sinners prayer accomplishes nothing helpful toward salvation. In fact it is an end around of what Heavenly Father actually prevented in the Garden of Eden -- doing something very quick and simple and being able to life forever in one's sins. Adam and Eve weren't allowed to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Life, but the false doctrine of asking Jesus into your heart tries to do the same thing. Devils also know and believe that Jesus is the Christ, they just oppose his work w bad fruit (works). Another fatal flaw in the doctrine of the Trinity is John 17:18-21. After Christ makes it clear that just as the Father had sent Him into the world, He was sending the Apostles, who are separate from Him, out into the world. That they, the Apostles AND them also which shall believe on Him through their word may ALL be one as the Father and the Son are one. So any true believer in the man-made doctrine of the Trinity must also believe that it includes the original 12 Apostles and everyone who believes on their word. Of one essence falsely includes millions and millions & not just 3. The restored gospel of Jesus Christ in these latter days is blessed with clear and pure doctrine that the Father and the Son are one in heart, might, mind and purpose as all who become true followers of His Son should strive to be also. In more recent videos, you have correctly cited the oneness that exists within the senior leadership of this Church today, and their wives, as being another proof of the fruits of the restoration. It has been very refreshing to see your defense of this Church even before your own baptism. Happy 1 year anniversary early next year. Thanks for all you do.

I am soooo glad you’ve embraced the LDS church! The knowledge you have of the history of Christianity now through the lens of the TRUTH is so educational and enjoyable to listen to!

Really enjoy your podcast and testimony of the restored gospel. Interesting how our Christian neighbors (Evangelicals) deny the great apostasy, yet they themselves apostatized from the universal church. Funny thing is that the Catholic Church states they never gave the apostates priesthood authority, so by who’s authority are they acting under?

Thank you for sharing God's truths 🙏 ❤, always pray for you, and inspire ministry, Thank you so much, Jesus Christ, for my brother David Alexander ❤️ and prayers

I’m so grateful for your experience with this! You are a wonderful dude!

Yes! This life isn't for a judgement but to learn and grow until the judgement... which comes later. Hurrah for truth!

One of the great ironys is that Athanasius was so vigorous in advocating for athe Son being of the same substance as the Father because that was the only way he could see that made his main concern "God became man so that aman could become God" work metaphysicaly.

Brother David thanks for expressing the truth, truly you are a great social media missionary who is spreading the word of God through out the world. Proud and happy for you 🙏♥️

Thanks for explaining the history of the Trinity. I have always believed that it was strange, and puts Jesus in different places at the same time. Like with His baptism and when he prayed in the Garden as examples.

Superstitious Christianity is a dead end. It is missing the realities of God and how He and we relate with eternity. The great missing link of Evangelical gospel(s)

The idea of the bizarre "trinitarian' creature would be a great idea for a science fiction movie. But first you would need to figure out what a "1 being, 3 person" alien might look like. No wonder God told joseph Smith that these doctrines of men were an abomination to Him. Thank you. Brother David!!

If Grace is really ALL that matters then why would anyone need to EARN salvation by way of a particular belief about the Father Son and Holy Ghost?

I sometimes wonder what's worse. Dishonest Christians or honest atheists. Both refuse to believe in the existence of real heavenly Beings existing throughout the cosmos, who are GOD.

Right on David

Denouncing deception is the way to go these days. I thank Father for living prophets and apostles.

I loved your video and subscribed. What a wonderful perspective you bring to the gospel. I admire your biblical and Christian history knowledge and you inspire me to be the same. God Bless you from one faithful Saint to another.

David you’re a blessing. May our Loving Father continue to bless and prosper and protect. I do believe like you God is in control and there will be a great reveal from the documents and records kept under the Vatican confirming the plain and precious truths that were held back found in the restored gospel. I know the restored gospel is God’s only true and living church upon the earth, and as Alma to his son Shiblon, I don’t profess to know these things of myself but by the grace of God and the manifestation of the Holy Spirit which has spoken truth to my spirit. For me I need no such reveal of those documents, but it wouldn’t surprise me, to combat the deception that has happened by holding back plain and precious truths that the Lord exposes this great stumbling block which has caused generations to be kept from the truth. This beautiful Plan, the Great Plan of Salvation, wasn’t put in place to only save a few of Gods great family, Gods work and glory is to bring to pass the Immortality and Eternal life of man, not a few, but most of His children. That’s the reason it makes sense that God would provide a fair opportunity for ALL His children to hear the gospel message and then be free to choose. That is the beauty of this Glorious Plan. Agency is central to this plan working. Not one soul will be forced where they would be out of place.

This is a great repost David of you before you were baptized into the church. You shared some of the most beautiful aspects of the gospel and they really do speak to how true this church is and that this is the gospel of Jesus Christ. That we don't believe most of humanity is going to hell, that we don't baptize infants, that we perform baptisms for the dead, that all will have the opportunity to learn and accept Jesus Christ and His gospel in the spirit world, and more. It really is the good news and there is none greater on the Earth. One thing though is I think Constantine was actually converted to Christianity, even though he did get a lot of things wrong with the doctrine. But the worst part, as you mentioned, was when he and the clergy then enforced their decided doctrines on the Christians and other people in the cruelest ways unto death if they didn't conform. And that it continued for many centuries, even in other Christian churches that broke away. That kind of treatment would convince almost anyone of any doctrine because of the terrible fear it instills. This method even continued as they inflicted cruel persecutions onto members of our church in the early years simply because our beliefs didn't conform to theirs, just as before. And then they turn around and tell us our church is satanic. It's ironic.

This video is one of my absolute Favorites! So much helpful info here.

Thanks again David. I love the Evangelicals. I love the people and listening to their Pastors and Teachers. My hearts breaks though at the fact that they have installed, as one of their articles of faith, that the "Mormons" are all wrong. Whole ministries make a living "proving" we're are all wrong and we're all headed for that dreaded lake of fire and brimstone. So sad. Thank you for coming around to the fullness of the Gospel, David, and sharing your testimony. It help us who have been in the Church our whole lives as well (I hope) to bring in those outside of our faith.

David I really love how you have grown in your knowledge of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. In these Latter Days

Prevail means to win. But it also means not to give up until you win

Thank you for speaking up 😊

The Elders are taught to not argue with anyone. They probably know the answer to the Trinity question, but arguing brings the evil spirit and no one receives light and truth during an argument. I think you could have done a better job explaining where the Trinity came from. It was a little disorganized scattered and not logical. Love all you do David. So proud you stand up for God our Father and his Son Jesus Christ.

Thanks for this David! Excellent! (From your Cedar City boutique friend😊)

Awesome post! 🙏🏻☀️❤️

Lucid and eloquent. Thanks brother David.

And the war they fought to enforce this doctrine of the trinity no sustaining vote in those days the victor won the debate

Brother David, can you explain how these evangelical people reconcile james and his entire chapter concerning needing BOTH faith and works because faith without works is dead.

Great video! I don't think I realized that the Trinity is from Emperor Constantine. The more I think about it the more I realize your analysis is correct.

Had the true gospel of Jesus Christ, priesthood authority and proper biblical comprehension not been restored... then the dark side would have prevailed. :>)

Jeff is a goose. Thanks for this

Thank you brother for standing up as a witness through ‘long-suffering and persuasion’ of the scriptures and the Holy Spirit testifying of the true gifts available from our Savior. If the adversary can keep our brothers and sisters from accepting the gift of baptism by one holding the proper priesthood of our Heavenly Father and receiving the Gift of the Holy Ghost he has already been able to keep them from promised strength and blessings.

Awesome!

Hi David. I liked listening to you discuss the history of the church following the desth of the apostles. Are there any books or resources you would suggest to learn more about the history of the church and its descent into apostacy? How did you learn about these things?

I think infant baptism is a corruption of the infant blessing or dedication. The Christ child was presented and dedicated at the temple as an infant. And we now bless our infants and give them a name and a blessing in the church which puts them on the church records. But that is not the same thing as a baptism.

I just love your videos and your songs

I saw that same video I remember getting irritated by the end of it.? Yep,,no one achieved anything. Missionaries were so gracious.

Jeff D is not kind. He reminds me of the movie, ‘Three Men and a Baby.’ When they read a book to the baby about fixing a car they said it doesn’t matter what you read as long as it sounds nice. His nice tone and demeanor don’t fool anyone.

Durbin loves to pick on average members who are unprepared for his specific questions. He wont take on real scholars like Daniel Peterson who would crush him

Very well done commentary. I cannot understand why people think that Jesus would confuse us. I pray to the Father but HaHa it's really me. Seriously! Anyway, thank you.

The first known use of the word Trinity in about 150A.D. is connected to a Greek Pagan Gnostic/Christian hybrid, spoken by Theophilus. This is how he describes the Trinity; God the Father, and his Word (Logos), and his Wisdom (Sophia). Sophia is a feminine being, while without fail the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is always described as male in the New Testament. But the Gnostic Gospels written about the same time have similar ideas. If the Trinity is true, then why does the first description of the Trinity look almost nothing like the Trinity that they teach now? So it's no wonder a Pagan king would have no problem accepting something based on Paganism.

God in Old Testament told Abraham (I believe it was him I might be wrong I haven’t read that verse in a while) to say that “I am” has sent him Jesus calls himself “I am” in New Testament. I do agree about your point on baptism also I don’t view the Catholic Church as the church God made

I find it embarrassing, the abject poverty of thought humans suffer with. We are so much more than we know. As the literal offspring of Eternal Beings creating and ruling the heavans above, we stand to inherit a mighty legacy when our mortal probation and testing is fulfilled. Just think of that for a minute.

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14:35 macarthur did not take some of his men and flea, he abandoned his men and fled. they suffered the baton death march.

He also goes by Burger King dude

Ive seen alot of Jeffs videos. They always show him and James White only with members or missionaries they have ambushed, less knowledgeable in the Bible or how to defend the faith. They have practiced their arguments and good debaters. Reminds me of Paul. Symbolically they are stoning the saints. They never would look so good in a honest debate with our scholars or a well versed member.,

Why are missionaries falls into that trap? Either naive lack of experience being nice or not listening to the HG,

The restoration defines direct Revelation from God through the Holy Ghost to Pater, who was immediately given the keys to the kingdom after his declaration that Christ is the Messiah, is the rock. As long as someone has those keys of revelation from God that Christ is the Messiah is on the earth the gates of hell will not prevail. Matthew 16:17-19 English Standard Version 17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock[a] I will build my church, and the gates of hell[b] shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed[c] in heaven.” Christ saw that His Father chose Peter tho be His prophet by that answer out of the 12

The truth of the concept that God is a 'trinity' was not taught by the Apostles that Jesus chose, in fact if you read the New Testament it is unmistakably evident that God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are 3 seperate entities with 3 different roles but united in purpose. The problem with Christianity is the same problem that the early saints had with a better educated class of people, like the Greek philosophers, who came into the Church but were bereft of the Holy Ghost, yet they interpreted the meaning of the available scriptures with their worldly mind. Its like those who try to understand the scriptures today, like this Jeff fellow and like his namesake, but they do not understand said scriptures because they don't have the Holy Ghost to teach them. It wasn't very long after the death of Peter and Paul around AD 80 that all sorts of heresies entered into the Church. You can see the warnings of this in virtually all the letters to the Church and the Epistles of the likes of Peter. It would be accurate to state that the Church, by the turn of the Century, had fallen into apostasy. The Priesthood was suspended, baptism had become corrupted by the baptism of babies,, the Church began to schism, and heresies abounded. However, at that time there was no mention of the nature of God or concepts of the 'trinity'. It was around the mid 2nd century that 'christianity' began dealing with the notion of separating itself from the polytheism of paganism. This is when the few Biblical verses that state the Jesus and the Father are one, despite over 200 verses alone in the 4 Gospels attesting to the contrary, began to receive prominence. The very first recorded mention of the idea of the 'trinity' was written in a letter from a philosopher called Tertullian to a friend of his around 160AD. As things moved on the concept was developed but never with agreement. This caused further schisming. By the time that Constantine usurped the Church and wedded it to the State, there was still no agreement. In 325AD Constantine told the Council of Nicaea to close the doors and don't come out until they have agreed on a definition of the 'trinity'. They did, but it still caused division and the Catholic Church was still arguing over it 300 years later. There isn't a definition of the 'trinity'. It has tried to be explained in countless ways without success because there is nothing in creation analogous with the doctrine. It is unintelligible, it is self contradictory, it cannot seem to be possible. My Father once told me that if something doesn't make sense, then it is more than likely a lie. That made sense to me. After 70 years, I haven't met anyone who can explain it, simply, that another could understand it. I've had people try to explain it to me and when I said, to one in particular, that I still can't get my head around it, they had the temerity to say I must be stupid. I know, however, they just claimed to understand it because they wanted to appear clever when they blatantly and obviously were not. These 'apologists' just give you a nonsense definition and then look at you as if you must be stupid.

I wonder whats on David mind as he watch Pres Jeffrey Holland during Pres Balllards funeral seevices.

"And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." READ THIS VERY carefully. What is being explained and what is the example? Christ is talking about: THE SALVATION OF THE DEAD He says so right there. He is talking about the "keys" of the kingdom. The keys of the priesthood. The power to bind and loose in Heaven and Hell and on earth. This is why the "gates of Hell" will not prevail. Or to say withstand. Gates being the thing that holds people in hell. So, through the power to exercise this power the people in hell will be able to receive the gospel and they won't STAY there anymore. Think about it. You have to understand what HELL is. Hell is not the kingdom of the devil or a place where demons are. It was created by God himself. It is a place were people go to await the final judgement. Paradise and Hell. Are waiting places. NOT final destinations. Hell is not in conflict with God's plan it's PART of the plan. BUT it is also an obstacle that MUST be overcome if someone is to be saved. Christ overcame HELL for us. So he has the power to let us free. So, when Christ says Hell, There is no way that Hell is fighting his kingdom on earth. It is actually the place were people are bound in the next life. The "gates" of Hell will not even Previl against the priesthood. Search all of the Bible. Christ has the KEYS of death and Hell. He has total control over the place. He is not talking about a thing overcoming the church in that scripture at all, he is talking about how the keys will destroy the "gates of hell" his kingdom will go even to them!

some protestants don't think you need to be baptized in water ... it is just the spirit.