What’s Next for LeBron After Another Denver Defeat?| The Bill Simmons Podcast 

That Westbrook trade was the absolute disaster

The '14 Spurs played the prettiest basketball I've seen maybe ever and I am a die hard Jordan era Bulls guy.

Lebron after G2: “what are we doing with the replay center?” Lebron after G3 : “it’s just basketball” This guy is something else 😂

MPJ's jumper is a thing of beauty to watch.

Take a shot everytime bro with A's hat says "like".

The way they talked about Denver and Jokic reminds me of “old school” teams. And I’m a younger fan, so I’m just mostly getting it off of the history and documentations that I’ve watched.

2014 Spurs!? Come on Bill.

I think Charles Barkley called it a few years ago if Michael Porter Jr. becomes healthy and develops into Nuggets second best player then Denver is on its way to becoming a dynasty. Murray is still important but Porter’s shooting and defence is the biggest asset on the nuggets next to Jokic.

Nobody is beating Denver if they continue to play like this. They play the best team game in the league.

Yesterday mpjr just hit great shot after great shot. That was ripping Lakers heart everytime

Bill Simmons, I loved this video so much, I had to hit the like button!

2014 Spurs entered the chat

Why was Lebron so mad at the replay center last game. What, they made a mistake. It’s just basketball :)

Nuggets is simply an OLD SCHOOL TEAM built in this era. Lakers had a template and won in that joke of a Bubble Championship then blew up all of their size and IQ advantage to chase people who'd CREATE and spread the floor for Lebron to make his life easier. 6 years. Two top 75 players. 1 ring. 5 underachieving seasons.

What next for Lebron? Step 1: blame his coach. Step 2: blame his teammates. Step 3: rinse and repeat

This guy says “ like” A LOT.

All Simmons can bring himself to say about Kyrie is “he’s been good” 😂

As a Nuggets fan one of the things I have noticed is that anytime an opposing player drives and ends up on the floor the nuggets push and run consistently creating mis matches and 4 on 5 situations. Especially in this lakers series defensive rebounds and wild drives end up as easy buckets for us. love Jokers fire and motor, the nuggets fully embrace Jokers peesona its great to see team basketball!

I don’t even understand why media keeps on forcing Lebron for GOAT conversation. His resume don’t even deserve number 2. Here are the list of his asterisk championships. 1st ring 50 games Lockdown champion* 2nd ring Ray Allen’s 3pointer* 3rd ring Draymond Green Suspension Stimulus package* 4th ring Disneyland Bubble championship* In Season tournament champion😂

“Not to shift this to the Celtics …” no one else has to say that lol.

Holy fuck this guy says like a lot

That feeling to me is the exact same the Warriors had for so many years years

Now people see why AD didn't want to play Center

Let’s let Jokic win a 2nd title b4 we get more excited. He’s now in the pantheon, but let’s let him actually climb the ladder. The sky does look like it’s the limit. 3-5 titles looks possible. But Giannis and co foundered and fizzled. It’s not easy to repeat and stay dominant, more respect to Ws for their competitive longevity,

Does Bill hate the Spurs??? How are the 2013 Heat better than the 2014 Spurs???

They always hype Lefraud as the smartest player to ever play the game..I submit to you that is a false narrative. Jokic is a much more cerebral player with a much more comprehensive understanding of the game. Lebum will always destroy the team because he’s not a selfless player..if he was, Deelo would actually thrive as a PG.

Good call, Bill!

Python is the best description of Jokic ever.

Great Convo on LeBron. What’s being left out here of the “types of guys that work with LeBron “discussion. The reason LeBron Has to have a certain type of guy to play with him is because there are so many holes in his game. With Jokić, we never ask this question Because he is so lethal offensively. You can’t guard him with just one player. LeBron has never commanded a double team in his entire career. That is why you have to resort to surrounding him with stand still jump shooters, or other guys that can Carry the load offensively. He doesn’t have enough reliable weapons at his disposal if the defense plays him in a certain way or his jumpshot isn’t falling. If you’re truly an all-time great player, we should never have to utter the words “if this or that role player doesnt shoot well then LeBron’s team loses “. Truly all-time great players can find other ways to win even when their role players aren’t hitting.

As a Dubs fan, I got a lot of respect for LeBron and all that he’s accomplished in his life. That being said, if I’m Jeanie and Rob, under no circumstances can I give him the 3 year max extension he wants this offseason! 💰It’s not a Kobe situation and it’s just bad business. ❤

Bill, I would include the 2014 Spurs.

love the fact that Im not the only one openly Donaghying Scott Foster anyomore lmao

The python analogy is apt.

Wow, Simmons made it for three whole minutes until he brought up the Celtics on a non Celtics topic. Must be a new record.

2014 spurs was best basketball I ever seen and I’m a laker diehard

Liked the teams of the century bill

Just let Bron retire. Hes already like the 8th best player of all time, at least until Curry passes him before retiring. Man can relax finally

Lebron has only 3 realistic options this offseason: 1) Accept his player option & announce retirement tour 2) Opt out of player option and sign a 2-3 year deal with LAL or NYK 3) Take a major pay cut to go wherever Bronny gets drafted I think option 2 is the most likely, but I wouldn’t be surprised by him doing 1 or 3.

To put a regular season winning streak over all of the 90’s Bulls title teams deserves more than an asterisk

2014 spurs tho??

Lebron is in the Muhammed Ali vs. Larry Holmes era of his career.

LBJ....IS the weakest link. He moved heaven and earth to poach Davis from NOP, and now he needs more help. Give it a break, he's a shot fighter

Where did Bill find this guy? At the Bus stop?😂😂

He said like 1,000 times

Lebum will keep being a bum and people will keep hyping him up and making excuses for him

My only issue and maybe I’m nitpicking but I think part of jokers success is. Comes from the lack of true powerful centers in the league today. And look no further than how Dwight Howard guarded him. That’s the only thing I can think of

2016 warriors won 73 games they up there

Dense D will be in LA next year. That doesn’t guarantee success but he from West Coast. He’s way better and consistent that D lo. His mid range is great 3-5 3’s a game. He gonna give you 20-25 a night efficiently. Not injured a lot. D lo and Rudy with one of those picks.

I wish AD would emulate Jokic in terms of providing more assists. This would add a very important dimension to AD's game & would help keep the whole Laker team engaged. Also AD would then become a triple threat in terms of points, assists and rebounds

@15:02 "unless the league really intervenes". He knows how the NBA works.

LBJ just realized last night that he is off from the GOAT race, he is done...

Lakers and LeBron need to part ways this off-season.

Hey how about the celtics losing game 2?

The only non-Lakers teams I could see due to contracts (assuming he doesn’t take massive pay cut) & competitiveness are the Knicks, Thunder, Magic, 76ers, and Rockets (if they can dump Jeff Green & Jock Landale for no return salary). I think he stays in LA but if he leaves I think it’s going to be for the Thunder or Knicks.

Please do a what’s next for AD and Devin Booker

The 2014 Spurs should be on the all century list.

I feel like Jokic is laying the foundation of what will be a strong GOAT argument. The fact that he swept LeBron twice will probably edge him past LeBron in the all time rankings, if he continues to be a walking triple double for another five years or more.

This is the reason no one takes bill Simmons serious. If it’s not a biased take, this dude spews the most casual nonsense.

I'm convinced Joker is a robot sent from the future. "That's what he does! That's ALL he does! You can't stop him! He'll wade through you, reach down your throat and pull your fuckin' heart out!"

how are the spurs not on the list of best teams when they destroyed the team Bill said was great

Bill is underestimating Minnesota. They are uniquely built to beat Denver and are clicking right now. That’s gonna be a tough series.

If you are the Lakers, you move off LBJ. Keep AD and build around him. That was always supposed to be the point anyway.

I think Lebron plays 2 more seasons. I think he wants to retire with gas still in the tank and walk away as still, arguably, a Top 10-15 player in the league., still an all-star level player. I think he wants to retire with a lot of people saying "man he could have played another year or two for sure!"....And I could see him taking a small discount on a contract but nothing drastic like taking 2 million. I could see him signing a 1-year deal for $20 million somewhere that Bronny is playing or is a contender.

Lebron fatigue is so real. Sure, hes broken the scoring record but hes also broke the losing record as well. He also has the record for most playoff losses, missed shots, turnovers, etc. His longevity is a double-edged sword and like a lot of his fans, he kinda ignores all his bad stats. Lebrons legacy is his longevity but its becoming a big drag.

At first when I heard Bill say top 3 team of the century, I was a bit shocked. But as I sit here and think about it....I'm not sure there are more than 5 teams that would beat this Nuggets team right now. Top 3 still feels a little high. I'd bet the 08 Celts, 14 Spurs, and even the 19 Raps might be able to beat them if they matched up

Miami Heat fan here but how can you leave out the 2014 Spurs?!

MJ saying “it’s only basketball” after a loss. Never never never would happen

Denver wins one championship. Is beating the 7th seed who are the lakers in the first round, and Now they are one of the best teams of the century! Come on man. Shit has to stop.

Why not PG3 to the Lakers? I’m not a cap expert but it seems they have enough flexibility to make it work, and he’d be an incredible fit next to LBJ and AD. If they had him I think they beat Denver this year.

I hope he opts out and finally leaves the Lakers alone. With Lebron, the Lakers have had six seasons with just one relevant season which ended in the bubble title thanks to AD and team chemistry. The other 5 seasons they had 2 where they did not even make the playoffs, and three in which they barely made the playoffs to then get bounced in the first round and soon it will be TWO sweeps of them. It is time to cut ties. Either let him walk himself so he can save face, or simply wait till he opts in and then trade him after that. The Lakers deserve a shot to build around AD with younger talent...

Fake retirement to do his sleight of hand like last year's sweep.

Jokic is nowhere near Magic or Bird. He hasn't eclipsed Hakeem Shaq or Duncan

What's next for lebron? After game 4 he's gonna show up for the media in a full body cast like the scammer fish from spongebob talkin bout "It's just basketball, feeling cute might retire"

Can someone please explain why jokic gets a pass for the postseason without Murray but Giannis doesn’t get that for his without Middleton in 22? I mean the guy avg. 34 15 7 against Celtics in 7 game series

Aaron Gordon > Paul Millsap KCP > Gary Harris MPJ > Will Barton 29 y/o Jokic > 25 y/o Jokic 27 y/o Murray > 23 y/o Murray And wait for the Wolves series for Watson and Braun to shine. Different around Jokic too.

I’m watching the end of the bucks pacers game and Middleton hit 2 huge 3 pointers at end of the game. Bill and ryen had almost buried him!

3 mins in and we're talking about the celts

If Denver doesn’t figure out the first half problem they aren’t winning it all. Not everyone will choke the 3rd quarter like the Lakers do

Jokic: Winning is a lifestyle

Jokic plays basketball the way a great quarterback does, he reads the defense and makes the correct play based on each situation.

Nuggets are a very, very good team, a great team, but they are not invincible or the greatest ever. They are a big team with a big, smart and talented center Jokic. The Nuggets are really tough in Denver where the altitude drains you and in the last 6 minutes of the game their size makes a difference. The Lakers are a big team but not as big or organized as the Nuggets especially with current injuries. The Nuggets will run plays with spacing and cuts that help them weather the storm when they are down or their shooting is off, they trust in their system. The Lakers tend to freelance 2 man screen games depending on the ball handler to gain advantage like Lebron or AD to just have an advantage because of their abilities. But when you're tired or missing shots its better to have a system of plays to rely on. The Nuggets would be vulnerable to a team with a lot of speed and finesse like the Jordan/Pippen Bulls or the Lakers showtime with Magic/Worthy/Cooper/Jabbar. BUT the Nuggets look damn good in todays NBA, their guards just outplay the Lakers guards offensively and especially defensively.

Lakers added no one to guard jokic. Stupid. People dont realize after lakers eliminated nuggets they pickup up aaron gordon next year.

2013 Spurs should've beat the 13 heat and DID demolish them in 2014. That's the greatest team of this century

You watch, Rui will have a big game and Reeves wil have a few threes. And, yet, Davis will have 11 points and 13 rebounds and the Lakers will pull their starters.

what reward do the Lakers get by winning on Saturday? A pissed off Nuggets team back home in Denver only to get embarrassed in Game 5 and fly back to LA???......Nope, Lakers are wanting this series over Saturday.

LBJ already working on his signing with the timberwolves / nuggets / thunder or Celtics

The only team I see LeBron pushing over the top is the knicks

Everyone talks about James when the best player is on the other team. Everyone thought the Celtics were unbeatable? No. But Denver is close.

J. Kyle Mann is my guy and I love his scripted series but he needs to learn to stop saying "like" so much on pods. Always happy to see him, KOC, Mahoney and the other younger guys on with Bill.

You can tell Jay never watched Lebron throughout his career

3 best teams this century? No 86 Celts? 96 or 98 Bulls? 14 Spurs? 2003 Kings? C’mon now.

It's just basketball, who cares? 😃😃😃

14 spurs best team this century

No Denver’s not on those old warriors and beat levels stop it bill

my prediction was Jokic is going to try really hard and nobody will be able to do anything about it

I wonder if his "the 2013 Heat couldn't put it together in the postseason" take is consistent for the Nuggets seeing as how...I dunno...the Heat won the chip that year and Nuggets didn't.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Jokic is better than Olajuwon!

He should sign for the nuggets. Run the 2nd unit, get a couple of rings

Denver is a good team but hold off on 1 of the top 4 teams in last 20 years!

2001 Lakers never had real competition. Blazers were washed already, Spurs wasnt loaded as in 2005 and then Sacramento Queens. Iverson 76ers won 55 games on a pathetic East. Spurs 14 and Warriors were best teams imo.