Pokemon X and Y: Fast EV Training with Horde Battles 

I'll share my fave horde Routes: HP: Pokemon Village (Foongus& Noctowl) Atk: Route 5 (Scraggy) Def: Terminus Cave (Durant) Sp.Atk: Route 21 (Spinda) Sp.Def: Frost Cavern (Vanilite) Spe: Route 15 (Murkrow)

Killing 5 birds with 1 rock slide

That awesome moment when your hatching eggs and watching shofu at the same time, then you look down and see that you just hatched a shiny gible!

Thanks! This actually helped me understand what the threads were talking about with the Items being used XD

"Use sweet scent in this grass and you'll run into a bunch of weed uh wingulls" my man shofu got me dying

Guess I got lucky. Pichus like my good luck pokemon, no matter what game. Lol, hatched one with PokeRus, now its infecting EVERYTHING.

Im happy i found this video, i got a perfect Iv / Ev trained gengar w/ Pokerus and thanks to that person and you ive train half my team im testing today.

Thanks for showing us this. Gonna try this method as soon as I can find Pokerus.

Nice vid shofu!

The wingull synchronized deaths... Epic stuff right there!

THANK YOU SO MUCH SHOFU!

Even without pokerus, this seems like a very fast method! Look forward to trying this

Thanks shofu this is so simple and really fast

I must thank you, this method really did work out.

Great video :) Helped a lot!

This method of EV training takes a lot of requirements to be effective in the long run. You have to get the Power items from the Battle Maison, which is post-game, for hundreds of BP total, which is very hard to reach when your Pokémon aren't trained enough to get to Super Battles (for quicker BP). For the most part you also have to get Pokérus via trading and spread it -by battling-, which involves getting experience and EVs that you might not want. In that case, you have to use a Reset Bag.

Thanks for this, lately i've been training EV's in the Friend Safari. I have about 30 friends in my list and if i want to train for example HP then i have 1 safari that contains Chansey, Dunsparce and Audino. I also have pokerus and the power item and this way was already very fast. But i guess horde battles are even faster :D

Shofu you are the man!

Thanx so much shofu 4 this vid, since my 3DS is messed up I can't super train so this method is way better so thanx so much

Wonderful video!

Cool guides, bro.

Ty so much this would really help me in getting my team faster

You can also use different Power items with your pokemon. So you can train two different stats every time.

this will help thanks man:P super training gets kinda hard on stage 3 and takes awhile

Helped out alot Good vid

You my friend are a genius thanx bro so much you are a serious time saver

I like this so much rather than single training. ALSO HORDE battling helps encounter random shinys.. Thanks for the vid.

Usually, you want to train your best stat. It'll gain amazing stat boosts in the process. Normally, to EV train, you usually ignore the bad stat.

special att mareep and speed wingulls you've seen in the video. geodude horde by the elite four for defense. i think there's an axew horde for attack at connecting cave also u can do speed for zubat horde. i can get back to you on more training spots.

thanks shofu, this really cuts the time from EV training.

I got a pokemon with static ability and a ground type spread move (Stunfisk) in the front. I go to route 5 for my ev training against hordes of Plusle and Minum because the static ability bring out those pokemon much more consistently than other pokemon. I found this to be a bit faster than using the wingals, even though i'm only ev training 4 pokemon at a time (not counting stunfisk and sweet scent pokemon)

It's so easy to EV train in this game. There is super training and horde battles, both of which were none existant before this game. Then on top of that, there is the Pokemon radar, so all you need to do is find a pokemon that gives the EVs that you want, and you can get it over and over by chaining it.

when i ev train i tend to have all fully ev trained pokemon in my party but the one i'm training so i only need 1 power item (i have each one + a macho brace so it's really epic!) also, you can get the pokerus from breeding tons of level one pokemon and wondertrading! i got my first pokerus pokemon there! also, always put your pokerus pokemon back in the pc! if you don't the pokerus will eventually dissapear!

You prob get this question a lot but I'm kinda lost I understood the video. The thing is now what if you buy 10 vitamins then add pkrs, power item & do a horde battle what is the outcome of that? I'm used to the more traditional EV training where you fight one particular pkm at a time but then they added ST which doesn't make much sense to me when the EV's are added up because I want to know that I correctly put the right amount of EV's into my pkm.

thanks man this is awesome qu: what do you use to record your videos ?

i am not really sure, but do these EV´s count in the same way as in super training? like its impisobble to get 3 stats up. or is it in this way possible too max out every stat?

great stuff thanks man!

Just wondering what happens if you use a reset bag on a lvl 90-98 then ev train it? Do the stats increase to the lvl it should without leveling up? or do I have to breed a new pokemon?

@shofu i'm just getting back into Pokemon and i was jut wondering, do u think a trick room team still good competitively?

Cool no problem, be sure to spread it as much as you can.

Pokerus is fairly easy to get, if you spend the time doing it. How I got it in my X game was using the Lucario the 3rd gym gives you. I just spammed its power-up punch and other physical moves for awhile till the nurse at the pokemon center informed me that I found pokerus. Also, pokerus is spread through your team through battling. Just have a pokemon that has pokerus in your team and do a couple battles.

so I just encountered a Murkrow horde battle (not battle safari) ...and i got REALLY lucky and caught one that was Jolly nature with it's prankster ability. Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't prankster it's hidden ability? apparantly u can get pokemon with hidden ability in horde battles? ALSO! I need help. I'm just going through the game, not sure if this Murkrow has good IVs..should I save it and not use it through in-game? I don't wanna ruin it's IV's if it does have good ones..

dude thank you so much, you rock.

I bloody love you mate

About 11 hordes which give 25 evs each (1 yield pokemon) or 9 which give 30 evs each (2 yield pokemon). No this only works if you want to fill the whole 252 space per stat. Getting more specific numbers requires precision.

Wow. Thank you for that information. On my platinum and Emerald versions, I have over `100 pokemon infected with Pokerus. When I get a X (or, maybe even as far as a Z) version, I will remember this tip to make my pokemon super strong. I would like a super-strong Carbink (sure, some of its stats are ok, but it does have a great movepool.)

You can deduce that from knowing what the pokemon's best stats are, but if you need a guide, Bulbapedia has a list of pokemon and what EVs they yield

ty Shofu

since pokerus gets cured after awhile, would i be able to continuously spread the pokerus from my newly infected pokemon to other pokemon who havent contracted it before?

The best stat of your pokemon is usually the one that you will EV train. Example if i have a Gengar I would EV train it in Speed and Special Attack because those stats are already high and if i can get them higher i can hit first and with more power.

Funfact: This even faster if you use a Tropius with pokerus. He is the only pokemon who learns Fly and SweetScent. He also gets Razor Leaf and EQ for clearing hordes. I use Tropius @ Wide Lens so Razor leaf hits everything. This way you only need one pokemon in your party for clearing, sweet scent, and fly. Btw, I only take out Tropius to EV train parties of 5, I've EV trained an entire box of pokemon this way, and Tropius is still contagius. I do use punching bags (use them without actually using them) to verify when an EV is maxed, and super train the last extra 6 EV's in a different stat to ensure everything is right (b/c you see the +6).

Does the exp share gives all the team the same evs? i mean if i kill those winguls with tyranitar with exp share ON, all my team will get 50 evs??? if they have equiped a power anklet and pokerus?? thanks for reply me :)

I think it spreads naturally to the pokemon in your team, so if you have a pokemon with pokerus in your team and 5 other pokemon without it, it should then eventually spread to those 5 other pokemon. I does go after a while if an 'infected' pokemon is left in your party, so if you want to keep the pokerus, you just put an 'infected' pokemon into your pc and the pokerus shouldn't go. It doesn't however spread to the other pokemon in the pc. I may be wrong, but I think that's how it works.

Yep. Its still in effect.

Actually, they changed that back in the 5th gen. As long as the pokemon gets any kind of experience from battle, they also get the full amount of EV points gained from that pokemon. That's what makes Exp Share so helpful. Items like the power anklet only work for the pokemon that equips it though.

It's just rare to get. The easiest way to get it is just trade for it specifically or just go to the GTS and keep trading random stuff until you get a pokemon with it. Also be sure to always keep a pokemon who is actively infected in your pc so you can keep infecting more stuff because after a while a pokemon won't be able to transfer it.

Pokemon have a maximum of 510 EVs. Each stat can max at 252 in X/Y (it was 255 in older gens so you could potentially waste 4 EVs). So you can max 2 stats and put 6 EVs in a third. Or whatever combination you want. But if you aren't just maxing try to make the EVs you put into a stat divisible by 4.

do you only need pokerus on the pokemon you are using to battle? or does it only have to be on the pokemon you are trying to ev train. because my blastiose already cured its pokerus.

What about after the pokerus is gone? I have it spread to some pokemon, some pokemon were cured.. They have a pink face when shown in summary. Couldt the EV training be continued?

So with this method do you need to use the items like zinc or does 5 horde battles with pokerus and held item take care of it all?

Do you mean an IV judge? There is one in Kiloude City's Pokemon Center but you can only visit that town once you beat the Champion.

soo, im still a lil confused with this. if i dont have pokerus and i dont have the power items, how many horde battles will i need to battle?

I have a question. if you don't EV train your pokemon and they level up past 50, will their stats stay the same when they reached lvl 50 or will they change after EV traing them past lvl 50? Really need to know this.

Do you have to worry about over training your EVs? I know you can't overtrain (wasting 3 EVs if you go to 255 instead of 252) in super training, but can you do it here? Or does it stop at 252 now?

what if a pokemon is level 100 and then you start EV training it? will it still gain it's maximum possible stat? e.g. attack stat (assuming i reset any EV's earned beforehand with a reset bag)

"You spread the pokerus by batteling, so make sure you spread it while batteling or ehm... i mean before, it doesn't really matter when" - shofu 2013 :D Great video, but you can improve EV-training a bit: Get a Smeargle (EVs: 252 SpAtt, 252 Init, 4 HP; modest/timid nature) with Fly, Surf, Sweet Scent and happy hour and level it up so that it can oneshot things especially in horde battles and give it an amulet coin. This smeargle is perfect for EV-training cause then you only need 1 Pokémon with the moves Fly, Surf and Sweet Scent which are needed for fast travelling and EV-training, thus you can easily train 5 Pokémon at once. Moreover it's perfect for earning money cause with the event-attack golden times and the amulet coin you get 4 times the normal amount of money.

It's half the speed. It doubles the EV's. You don't need it, but it's definitely faster. So the horde he just did was 5 wingulls that give 1 ev each. Then the power item adds 4 to that per pokemon so each wingull was worth 5. Then pokerus multiplies that by 2 making it 50.

well when you level up, all of your stats could go up. If you ev train a pokemon at a low level then the speed and attack will probably go up around 3 or 4 each level, while the other stats might only go up 1 or 2. the audino thing might of been a coincidence, because it doesn't make a difference how you level up after you're fully ev trained

So, just to make sure. Only the Pokemon in front needs the power item to spread the EV's around? Or do they all need a separate power item?

Thanks man!

About 51 with pokemon that yield 1 ev per stat or 26 with pokemon that yield 2 evs per stat. 1 ev yield stat pokemon horde -> 1 x 5 = 5 252/5 = 50.4 (don't necessarily need a horde to get the last 2 evs) 2 ev yield stat pokemon horde -> 2 x 5 = 10 252/10 = 25.2 (don't necessarily need a horde to get the last 2 evs)

Thanks for trading! Appreciate it heaps!

i caught shiny psyduck while watching this, i named it Articuno, and i'm going to give him an everstone

I have a question. I heard that if you're gonna use vitamins like iron or protein it would only count for the first 100 ev and they give 10 ev for each one. When I used protein for my Mawile (lv 1), I didn't notice his attack stat going up. Did the protein do anything or would I be wasting my money trying to buy vitamins for my team?

I remember on my first play through, I caught a Pokemon (I can't remember which one, maybe it was my shiny Roselia but whatever) and I checked my Pokemon and noticed that it had Pokerus. It did infect a lot of my Pokemon with it so hopefully I still have some.

In Supertraining a stat only can get 252 EV's, which is very good not to calculate anymore. Is it the same with these horde battles?

Yes it can. Just make sure to keep one pokerus pokemon in your pc for back up.

what's shofu's set on his stealth rock tyranitar? ev wise and nature and stuff. anybody knows? he said he wants "some spead" but still bulky and i guess still atk, plus def nature. confuses me. fast an bulky...?

Really useful tutorial! Used it so much Just need a Pokérus though to become perfect xP

i have a question with ev training. should your pokemons evs be spread out evenly thru out hp, atk or sp atk, def, sp def, and speed? or should u just max out 1 or 2 main stats and even out the others for a pokemon that can not only dish out alot of damage but also take a hit or 2 to stick around a little longer?

didn't realize we're already friends haha, cheers for the scatterbug

hey shofu question can i use a gen 5 iv calcuater for gen 6 or no cause stuff changed

Does it matter if a pokemon is maxed out on ev's but is still at a really low level? Or do they have to level up at the same rate of getting the ev's?

If I use a Pokemon that is already fully EV trained (and give it, and the Pokemon I am EV training the proper power item) will the EV's from the horde battle still fully transfer to the others or not?

Silly question, if you maxed out your pokemon level, is it still possible to reset your EVs and re-spread it to that pokemon?

Thanks so much dude

So if I'm using like mew to lead my party and use surf/earthquake, do I give him the power item? Even though I'm trying to train the other pokemon in my party

Thanks Shofu. Very very useful. Though i guess, My preference would buy 10 of the respective drugs and ST one pokemon. But yeah, your method would be much easier. Macho Bracer for while. After Grinding Battle Maison for the respective EV hold item. Dang, 1 Horde Battle/ 25 EV. I did the math, Wingull = 1 EV, the EV Hold Item = +4 EV. Pokerus multiplies them by 2. that is 10 per Wingull, It should be 50/Battle. But damn, 25 is fast enough.

and if you want to keep pokerus you just have to put one infected pokemon in to your pc, because the time for pokerus to disappear would stop. furthermore you could also spread pokerus while your pokemons are in their egg so you could garentee that they won't get any EVs from batteling ^^

If i wanna ev train my pokemon attack with belsprout, how many horde battles do i have to go through to fully ev train my pokemon?

So, you don't need the power items unless you have 384 - 480 spare BP (16 for each power item, and you can train 4 at a time unless you have Teddiursa). So it's better to put a Lucky Egg on your leading poke so your other pokemon will level up faster

I subbed. Thank you.

Hi, I have a question: If you went into a horde battle to increase your Pokemon's speed for example, after the battle, will it already show an increase if you go into your Pokemon's stats?

.....the pokerus effect disappears after 2 or 3 days. when the pokerus disappears from your pokemon the effect of the pokerus will still stay but it will not have the effect to infect other pokemon cause of that you put one pokemon with pokerus in your box so the pokerus of that pokemon will not disappear. hope this could help you

A better place for ATK is Route 19, (Weepinbell, Arbok) they give 2 EVs per kill, so they give 30 with the power items, and they give 60 EVs with Pokérus.

hey shofu how much would you get even without the pokerus? do you know?

Hey Guys here's a tip use teddiursa instead because he has access to earthquake sweet seant and rock slide and from level 91-100 can pick left overs pp ups and heart scales with the pick up ability

Just watched all yo lil ev training guides and team building shit. Inspired me to get competitive, lol let's get it I wanna battle you some day bruh

If i'm EV training and the pokemon levels up do the other stats gain EV's as well?

Thank you !