Provoked: Exposing False Teachers - Kenneth Copeland 

Did you hear about Osteens church building? They hired contractors to remove a wall and reconfigure an office. When no one was there, they came in to do it early. They removed the wrong wall. They had found millions of dollars built into a wall. He's just as bad, only Copeland is more aggressive. Every Friday is there day to pleade for money to help the poor people, which is really just a lie. Joyce Meyers has a fleet of Mercedes Benz and the most exclusive, valuable antique and painting collections, values at 40 million etc....some just hide their money better. Swiss bank accounts are untraceable. It's insane. They are all wolves. God Bless...🙏

I was NAR (hyper-charismatics) for about 4 years, and the similarities I later found out between what I was hearing from Copeland, Bill Johnson, Chuck Pierce, Dan Duvall, etc and Mormonism are striking

Bill Johnson and Kris Valloton from Bethel sing Copeland's praises and have had him give sermons. No surprise, there.

Todd White too

@@toolegittoquit_001 I thought that dude repented

A true believer can be deceived but if your attracted to his teaching there’s probably a reason…

just by looking at his eyes creep me out. The interview between him and the reporter about him buying the private jet makes my skin crawl everytime i see it.

Next time she remarks about how he makes her feel good you should bring up the fact that sin usually makes us feel good as fallen humanity...addictions make us feel good like alcohol or meth or coke....should we indulge in those things because it makes us feel good? Just like a drug will destroy your life, a false teacher may destroy your eternity. Feelings aren't nearly as important as truth. Try if possible to debate points with your friend. You may wind up changing her mind.

@Goin-Chester she was getting upset, so I just told her she needed to research him and the whole group to find out the truth.

His face alone looks demon possessed

I agree! He looks like a demon too 😰

How exactly do you see a demon in someone's face? I'm not calling Kenneth a saint, but simply looking at his face makes him a demon? Remember, Lucifer and all of the other angels are by looks, very beautiful creations of God.

I soooo agreee .... its something about him that scares me

That was to grant to mankind, when he surrendered and then took up again in victory for us.

That should read… That was to grant to mankind, what He had surrendered… what Christ gave up was what God gives us. And He now sits at the right hand of God and we will join Him as he declared us to be one with Him and the Father . Amen

Stay blessed and go to HEAVEN !

Money changes people,sad but it has happened to a lot of preachers.I love Jesus so I love truth, compared to heaven money means nothing,I don't have a lot of money who cares I have JESUS. KEEP TELLING THE TRUTH. May God bless all true Christians.

Not greedy necessarily, desperate people in the main.

It is interesting the hypocrisy that you point out here.

Yeah, and his long friendship with Sid Roth and his merry band of heretics seems to cause Brown no concern 🤦‍♂️

What is an example of something more in depth? I appreciate the feedback

@@jakebull2571 Hello Jake! That’s my husbands name too lol. Are you asking for another video for reference, like a WoF type coverage? Or are you asking for me to give a description? I can do my best to provide you with whatever you are seeking. Also, I hope my comment didn’t come across rude, I intended no malice at all, but just found the video to be mostly surface level. Which is totally ok!! If that was the goal. 🙏🏽♥️

@@jaquirox6579 thanks for the reply! Yea maybe just a description of what would be more in depth would be helpful. I appreciate constructive feedback like this.

@@jakebull2571 oh ok, sure I can give it a go, at attempting to articulate what I was thinking. So for me watching this video, it seemed to really give some real 101 info on KC and WoF, which is really assuming the audience has never heard anything about it before and therefore needs that first off foundational describing. But I think, and I could of course be incorrect, that the vast majority of the audience here is already fairly familiar with the cult sect. As it is sadly a dominating belief sect in America now, that goes directly hand and hand with all the NAR guys. The NAR churches and WoF churches are always co-mingling, and even are guest speakers for each other at their churches and conferences. So with that said, I don’t necessarily think that the 101 sort of definitions were the most necessary, though they weren’t pointless either, so it’s fine to provide them. But I think, when you chose to give so much of the 101 of defining it’s basis, you automatically are sacrificing time to digging into deeper points of the movement at large. The WoF is so exponentially more dangerous then debatably most cult sects, and I think it’s all because of their extreme nature of creating a church body of haves, and have nots. Because of what they teach and believe, anyone incurring any kind of suffering in their life, is made out to be living in “secret sin”, and their suffering is said to be proof that they aren’t right with God, and also that their faith simply is not much. So any Christian’s within their body incurring literally any kind of suffering, from physical ailments, family stress, job issues, financial struggles, or even just real bad luck like a car accident, literally all of these sufferers are pitted as a “have not”. The mere physiological damage it causes in those folks is tremendous. But more importantly, the spiritual damage. The rate in which people leaving this movement chose to abandon God completely, seems to be abnormally high compared to other cult sects. I I think it’s because their churches create such a utterly devastated Christian. First by becoming the local pariah at their local church, because they acquired a chronic ailment out of their control, and then being bombarded with everyone letting them know that it’s all their fault, if they only had bigger faith, and only tilthed more to their church, and if they only admitted to their secret sins… then “of course God would heal them!”. And then round two of their devastation, once they leave the cult, it’s the massive crumbling of everything they believed God to be, to suddenly be completely wiped out. “You mean God doesn’t always want me to be healed? You mean God doesn’t want me to be rich? You mean God doesn’t want me to be happy and healthy, and popular by all standards? You mean God doesn’t want me babbling in senseless tongues every time I pray? You mean my hysterical forced laughing, and throwing myself on the ground, and pretending to be overcome with those outward expressions is actually a massive insult to the God of self control??” And sadly, these people commonly feel like the real God is just nothing then. They are so devastated, and to them it feels like the real God is just plain Jane nothingness. And that’s in their ignorance of not knowing any theology yet, of course, but most don’t ever get into theology because they just walk away from it. They are very jaded, very bitter, and feel absolutely betrayed. Betrayed obviously by the people that lead them into the deception cult sect. But more interestingly, they commonly feel sort of betrayed by God too. Like it all was just such a huge lie, and their perceptions of that church are so strongly tied to what their perceptions of God were, they struggle to unlink the two. It’s also abnormally difficult to get anyone in WoF to look at any theological materials of any kind too. A simply YT video, or a book, or a AG dvd… all of it. These people are so trained by their leaders to reject any outside materials, that they just immediately dismiss anything you try to share with them. Even if it’s not even of the rebuking nature, it could be a very passive info stream, but they just reject literally everything that’s not blatantly from their teachers. And along with that, they are the most quick sect to demonize anyone who tries to speak any kind of biblical truth to them. They will straight up snap at you, and start attacking your character, without hesitating! It’s vile, and the most extreme response compared to any other cult sects. And because of these things, it seems nearly impossible to evangelize any of them. Anyone that has ever tried to talk to a WoFer has probably quickly learned of their nasty whips, and felt very discouraged, very quickly. I recall one time Mike Winger responded to exactly this question purposed to him by me, and he said honestly… it’s so hard, I don’t even know what to tell you. He agreed that WoF tends to just demonize people, and that’s it’s actually quite dangerous territory to try to push into it. After Mike said that to me, I found it interesting that even his experiences with them as a pastor, was exactly the same as mine. And we don’t really have much for help on that exact topic online. Majority of discernment channels barely touch WoF, and nearly no one touches on how the heck to break through to any of them! Not one really talks about it at all, and seemingly, people aren’t really doing it either. And take for example, Andrew Womacks school in CO called Charis College. He’s fleecing a ton of ignorant teenagers coming to his “Bible college”, thinking they will be leaving with valid degrees, having no idea that none of it is valid, and it’s a cult school where no normal church will ever recognize their schooling as valid. The same with the slightly older school Rhema Bible College, which is a tiny thing, that seemingly no one has even heard about. But they sure pump out a lot of biggish names we hear about. Most of the leaders of the WoF churches today came straight from Rhema. But why has no one heard about that school? Why is that not on anyone’s radar, or being discussed? Why aren’t we trying to saturate some of the YT search engine, for people looking for info about Charis or Rhema because they want to go to school there once they graduate, why don’t we saturate it with discussions of them being a cult sect, and not real biblical Christianity? Those schools are just running uninterrupted, even on the YT space, where people supposedly make videos about everything. But what I see, is for some reason, people kind of don’t touch WoF!! And why? That’s the intriguing part here. Why is it not getting touched on, or even better smashed and ground down to a pulp! So when a 17 year old searches for it on YT they find a video discussing the cult school, right next to the promo ad that Andrew Womack posted, or the one Kenneth Copeland did when he was their guest speaker last year. Ok ok I’m really rambling now, lol, but those are just some thoughts. My in laws are WoF church owners in multiple states. My husband was raised in this, and still struggling with accepting truth now, even years later. I have nieces and nephews going to their colleges. So for me, it’s definitely personal. But also for me, it’s a gut wrenching disgusting sight to witness at every single family gathering, because I have to hear them demanding my God. Bossing him, commanding him, and arrogantly speaking in such a way that just twists your gut into knots. It’s gross, and it’s hard. Especially knowing that I’m dealing with their church leaders… not followers. So I don’t know if any little bit there might have been a helpful new idea, or totally not at all, lol. But I gave it a go! Have a good night and God bless. 🙏🏽♥️ Also, I appreciate your willingness to engage constructive talk with me Sir. 🙏🏽

@@jaquirox6579 thank you so much for this response. Really helpful thoughts here and gave me really good insights. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to be so close to this kind of false and harmful doctrine, as well as the toll it has taken on your husband and others. It seems like you are quite well versed in this, and truthfully I am grateful you’ve shared what is certainly a deeper dive into the dangers of the movement. Keep standing strong on the Word. Blessings to you, sister.

It definitely has some ufo's on it shooting out something from them lol 🤔

good question

There was an episode where they explained that t-shirt.

@@maxmustermann1206 title please

You can't do anything to make what Jesus did on the cross less valuable. The unpardonable sin was what the Jewish Rabbis did to Jesus. They knew all the signs to look for, and denied Him straight to His face, they absolutely knew who he was and rejected Him. They are the only people that could commit that sin. I thought I did the same thing years and years ago... then a Jewish man that came to Christ explained it to me. Don't let that bog you down with your walk with Jesus... you didn't do it because if you did God would have no need for you anymore and you wouldn't be here. God needs you to let it go so you can live for Him. From someone who's been where you're at! ❤ Listen to Chuck Misler or Dave Hunt or David Wilkerson... they have passed away but were 100% on bible teaching. The ones that are still alive are Tom Hughes, Brandon Holthouse, John Haller.... The Bible is pretty clear, it just takes bad people to twist it.

The unpardonable sin is to reject Christ Jesus and if you repented and turned back to Jesus then you are forgiven we serve a gracious and merciful God the Bible says if we confess our sins He ( God the Father) is faithful and just to forgive our sins Amen ❤

"Jesus replied, 'Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.' " (John 14:23). Do you love Him? is it your desire to obey his Word? Rest in the salvation Christ has purchased for you.

It is my understanding that this sin is attributing the works of Jesus to Satan. That was applicable when Jesus was on this earth. It is not an action to be concerned about 'stumbling into' God bless 🙏

I thought the unforgivable sin was self cancelation..?

Just remember this basic principle, we are not saved because of perfect theology. Poor theology if it goes far enough can change the means of salvation away from Jesus (mormans/JWs) but most people in WOF camps are true beleivers in Jesus Christ as lord and savior from their sins. As far as Copeland - that's a different story because the word does say teachers will be judged with a higher standards.

@@beaberean3286 Thanks for that. It helped.

@@stormhawk31 Yes just as bearbean said, beware of thinking that your theology is perfect. It is highly likely that your own theology is as flawed as Kenneth Copeland. But the core tenets of Christianity is clear in the scripture. We are constantly understanding and growing as we meditate on Gods word. But certainly if we someone contradict the scripture directly it should be rebuked.

@@akashm5719 I am aware that my theology isn't perfect, but I am also aware that it's nowhere near as flawed as Copeland.

Very well said! Kenneth Copeland exudes evil!

There are more than a few calling out MR's foolishness KDub (Chris) has been busy ..

is it God’s will to heal everyone?

He doesn't interact with those beneath him. Petty peasant 😐

Where are the Sign gifts today ? 😂 And God is sovereign and will do what He wills with our 'help'

He certainly is a false teacher!

You seen the report in Copland his million dollar plan.

By the Way when You see someone in the wrong,you are supposed to PRAY for them,Not judging them....Stick to the Word! And take the Beam out of Your OWN eyes before You try to take the specks of dust out of anyone else's eye...you will see more clearly your OWN sins. YOUR JUST AS SINFUL REPENT

Finally, some who gets it. We need to stop this division amongst ourselves. This is exactly what Satan wants. "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand." - Matthew 12:25

George Pearson has made several sub-optimal life choices So have I 😢

He has the same set of beliefs. Yes, he is in the same camp. 'I AM God Almighty !!'. 🤦‍♂️

And still many want hearing aids🙄

So you're saying God doesn't heal anymore? I could say the same thing about Paul the apostle - he left his friends and ministry partners sick even though he had a gift of healing. Jesus himself left likely hundreds of people sick at the pool of Bethesda and healed only 1 man. Why is that? Maybe because the gifts of the spirit, work as the spirit wills! This is how it was back then, and that's how it is now still. This is why charismatics don't go empty out hospitals. They didn't do it in the time of Jesus or the Apostles either.

​@@beaberean3286 The fact that Paul no longer healed people in his old age is a sign that he no longer had the ability. The apostles had superpowers from God that we do not have today, an honest analysis of our reality shows this clearly. God can heal through our prayers if it is His will but a direct laying on of hands with immediate effect does not exist today. Claims of gradual improvement from colds or other diffuse diseases I do not compare with the powers of the apostles. These healings that they did were mainly to be a sign to the unbelievers and therefore the recovery should have happened immediately so that it could be witnessed.

@@mrp3418 Thats completely assumed. And no they were not superpowers...Let scripture interpret scripture. The Apostles did not use these gifts at will, 1 cor 12 says the gifts operate AS THE SPIRIT WILLS. There are absolutely instances of people around the globe who have been instantly healed when hands are laid and then they come to salvation...but this only happens by the spirit of God. God gifts individuals with these things as part of his sovreign will for moments in time as HE desires. According to you, the Apostles had freedom to heal whoever they wanted whenever they wanted like they were superheroes, but that's clearly not what the scripture teaches or shows. You need balance. This is why I believe in the gifts of the spirit for today but understand why we don't see 100% success. It's still based on God's infinite wisdom.

These NAR preachers insist upon preaching a gospel accompanied with signs and wonders. Yet they NEVER have any signs or wonders. They openly mock and blaspheme God by their actions Small wonder the name of Jesus is despised. These people have no fear of God

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Who do you parrot ? God or Satan ?

"Low hanging" fruit that Jesus Christ also spoke against. Don't know which bible you're reading. 😅

@@WasLostButNowAmFound 😅 the same one as you. you can look up Kenneth Copeland on RU-vid and find countless videos by solid teachers rebuking him. This will have no new content and is preaching to the choir. And your use of “low hanging fruit” implies you didn’t understand what I said.

We are to contend for the Faith. We can stop when the attacks upon the Faith have ceased And yes, there are many that are beguiled by these wolves 😢 Besides witless comments on the work of others, what are YOU doing ?

@@toolegittoquit_001 I have no need to defend myself. I do not disagree with what you said either, my point is that Copeland has been dealt with faithfully many times. There are other false teachers not yet confronted that are worth the time and production value. Copeland is by far one of the easiest false teachers to rebuke.

Copeland is a charlatan. If you cannot see this, it is clearly not a good use of my time to convince you 👋

Did Samuel choose the wrong son ? Are you saying God made a mistake then ? No, God did not make a mistake - nor did Samuel ….

And, by definition, prophets CANNOT prophecy out of their own spirit. That is not prophecy. The proper name for that is blasphemy

Absolutely not true! The Holy Spirit guides our lives.

That isn’t true, and you should retract that statement. I’m Calvinist and a continuationist or, in other words, a Reformed charismatic. Sam Storms, Wayne Grudem, and John Piper just a few Reformed theologians who believe that the so-called sign gifts of the Holy Spirit are still operating today.

That's a lie.

You clearly do not understand what 'Calvinism' is. God is Sovereign and will do what He wills through the Holy Spirit. We believe that the Sign gifts (giving specifically to the original Apostles) ceased after the Apostolic age. There are many gifts of the Spirit operating today Please do a modicum of research before demonstrating your total ignorance on a topic 😢

@@1fleshnhim the Holy Spirit works in us and through us, not by speaking in tongues or prophesizing. He guides in ways you can’t see. The Holy Spirit is part of the trinity and very powerful.