open.spotify.com/show/3hJo9o8... Patreon: / rslash Discord: / discord 0:00 Intro 0:08 Messing with IT 4:24 Affair 11:26 No college "Sneaky Snitch" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License: CC By Attribution 3.0
What OP did in the second story was cruel, but it was nowhere nearly as cruel as STARTING AN AFFAIR WITH THE HUSBAND OF A DYING WOMAN! I will never agree with anyone who condemns what OP did. As she herself said, "it's hard to feel compassion and mercy for a woman who integrated herself into my dying mom's life as she was screwing mom's husband."
And even then, it’s still not as cruel as the father. He started an affair, and then conveniently didn’t tell his new wife that he had gotten a vasectomy possible decades ago, then just “tried for kids” with her over and over, wasting her time and fertility. He had just as much opportunity to tell his affair partner about his chosen infertility as the OP had
“Start an affair with the husband of a dying woman and play ‘support’ for the whole family” I could never even fathom being an AP, let alone one of a person with a dying partner, even more so be the support of that dying person.
I agree with the assessment of the coworker. but not the punishment. Did the coworker end or waste the mother's life? The punishment is not comparable in scale. Disproportionate violence is how things like multigenerational blood feuds start.
@@mrlugh she could have other means of having babies, such as surrogate with her egg, or adoption. And why was it on the OP anyways? Her father had many many many many many many chances to tell her that he had a vasectomy. He knew she wanted children. But yeah, the OP is awful for not telling a vile woman that willingly been the side piece of her father while her mother was passing away. She was not obligated to say anything to this woman. She was not obligated to tell another person someone else’s medical history. That is on the someone else. Sure, she did that out of punishment , but why should she support a woman who was only helping out the family to be with this guy after her mom passed away from cancer. She only hurt a woman badly during her final days/months.
Story 2: I've heard this before a few times, and it's really sickening that this happens. The dad should've been by his late wife's side, but instead he cheated and lied about the vasectomy so his AP wouldn't leave him. Oh well, maybe don't cheat next time, cheater
@@myopinion69420the problem is that he didn’t even wait until his wife died and some time passed before finding another woman. He’s a scummy opportunistic cheater, or an idiot at best.
The father is thrice the scumbag: - He cheated on his wife when she found out she had cancer; - He let the lover be part of the family. It's like, "Honey, you're dying anyways, so I've already replaced you." This is extremely humiliating. - He lied to his lover about the vasectomy. This was not revenge, this was karma. The lover would have found out one way or another, OP simply sped up the process.
@@stefantsarev4442but OP didn’t speed up the process…she intentionally dragged it out so the mistress wouldn’t leave and meet someone else who’d have kids with her, until it was too late
The we (and the OP) don't know if the mother agreed to it at the beginning. Some people want their spouse to be happy with someone and suggest it, or at least agree to it. Without knowing if that happened we can't call him a cheater. He's still a scumbag for lying though.
@@SuperS05 I normally argue for a broader perspective, people jumping to conclusions on too little information. but it something about how the mother reminded her daughter about her dad's vasectomy that suggested to me she was not accepting of his affair. but... but that's a very subtle read with no meaningful evidence. With that said, as disgusting as the father and co-worker were, the coworker didn't deserve that particular punishment.
His wife was dying. Grief can make people do crazy things. The AP is horrible for taking advantage of that. But that outcome was to far. I agree with the mom she should of told her earlier
Man, I could have sworn Coworker was gonna cheat on the dad before divorcing him. Once the vasectomy was mentioned, Coworker would start an affair, not knowing about the snip, get her eggo preggo, try to tell the dad it's his and only then finding out about it. I'm super surprised neither of them cheated on the other cause how you get them is normally how you lose them.😲
Right! I think they both thought highly of how they started their relationship because it wasn't like "normal" affairs. In their minds sliding someone in as "mom" was the "kind" thing to do when the truth is they should have never brought her around the sick mom. It really speaks a lot about the dad and how pathetic he is. He can't stand to be alone, raise his kids alone, and will lie and trap someone in the relationship knowing they eventually want kids when he literally can't. I almost feel bad for the mistress but this will always be her "karma" for getting with a married man while his wife was dying.
I think the story is fake af bc of this and bc OP is the real daughter's friend that learns all this from her deathbed and promises to disclose it after her death. Like a shitty novel
@deisisase I know! That's why I'm kinda wondering if this is even a story that happened IRL, cause how often do you hear of cheaters NOT cheating? 😶 especially since Coworker was so desperate for a baby.
I like the misread in the first story, "...100 years our of date." That would mean the offices communicated via telegrams and snail mail alone. This made me chuckle to think about what an IT guy would do in such an office.
Oh, was that a typo? (I listen thru headphones) I also had a humorous image of the company using Teletype machines and manual typewriters and barely have basic electricity.
Actually, by 1920 the telephone had already become the primary means of communication between cities. So 100 years out of date would at least have phones!
Story 3: J was absolutely childish in this mess, K made an honest mistake, and J decided to just go off on the deep end. Not to mention that he was trying to cheat the system with his mom's influence. J does not deserve university until he stops being so childish
True, but its worth noting how sucky the school is. J couldn't go to his own award ceremony because of an exam? No.. you reschedule the flipping exam good grief.
@@Nekulturny - No, you dont reschedule the exam. Reason, some exams are multi-school exams and therefore cant be rescheduled. It's the ceremony that shouldnt have been organized during exam time like it was. And before you say that such exams dont take place, they did and may even do so now. Such exams happen when you have schools that have subjects that arent at another school. What happens then is students travel between schools to take the subject that isnt being taught at their school. One example is here in Adelaide Australia where I live you had Brighton, Marion, and Daws Road high schools who did that. Brighton high was known for it's music and any students in year 11 and 12 who wanted to do music at that level would have to travel to that school to do such. Many students also travelled from those schools to Marion to do subjects there, specially where languages were concerned since not all schools offered senior classes in such. So yeah, dont blame the exam, blame the school organizers for doing what they did knowing that the studen who was receiving the award wasnt going to be there.
Affair story: I half expected OP to get a fake-positive pregnancy test so that her dad would think his wife was cheating on him. That's probably what I would've done. I don't think I would've had the patience (or acting chops) to "play the long game" like OP did.
2nd story: I felt like rslash should've added the context that came with the story: Basically, the OP that posted the story is retelling it in the friends place, due to them passing away and pormising to post the story 1 year after their passing.
@@kdepp90Not to the story itself, but that info makes this feel more like a deathbed confession considering the line about not seeing their mom in the afterlife.
Damn I know that vengeance is better cold but op was lying for years to be a happy family just to drop the bomb in the worst moment. All that time lying... Scary
yeah it's absolutely the father's responsability to tell the truth. I mean having a child is like a question you do before getting married, he's a jerk but damn
That last is sadly mostly fiction. Went too far claiming "unable to apply to any universities in the USA". There's literally thousands of universities here and you can't get blacklisted by them all
I can believe that statement is false, but what do you mean "mostly fiction"? How does one dubious line at the end invalidate the majority of the story?
Vasectomy is not foolproof, but definitely reason enough to ask for the paternity test. As long as he's not (openly) a dick about it (partially hidden schadenfreude is fine IMHO) it definitely overwrites 'you are a monster for not trusting at my word alone!' excuse, if truthful she will understand
I'm gonna have to look that one up. I already tend to hear a loop of Nelson's laugh (The Simpsons) or the Fake Tears sound effect (Pokémon) whenever I hear some Karen, CB, etc. whine about having to face the consequences of their actions.
Last story: One thing at the end is not true ... there is no way that would prevent him from entering most Unis in the EU. Maybe some because they care for your reputation but most just care for your grades or even just your skillset if you can proove that. When your old enough you dont even need to have finshed school. You can just do a test to enter. Also there are forprofit Unis in the US they take everyone as long as they can pay.
The last story, story 3, was confusing AF to me because you mixed up the names of Kyle and James. I thought I was just being dumb at first but at 17:15 you definitely said James was collecting evidence... on himself, which isn't what the story said, obviously. I'm not gonna go back and check but I'm positive this isn't the only instance of this.
The affair story: would really suck if the affair wasn't an affair, but just a, "please move on, I'm dying, I want you to be happy. Date coworker, she's clearly into you and a good person." Only until it was too late that ops mom had a suspicion that coworker was under the impression that she wanted kids, and maybe her husband wasn't being honest with her. So she asked op to spill the beans to save coworker
@sakatababa OP seems to be fine with "not joining her mother" ie going to hell for this level of nuclear apocalypse revenge. If my dad cheated on my mom, as she was dying of cancer, I can't say I'd be a good person either.
@@tailsofchaos how is she not? intentional obfuscation for a very long time with explicit purpose to cause maximum damage. she literally destroyed her chance to ever have an offspring. yeah, that is overkill. telling that fact right at the start would lead to breakup. waiting was pure malice.
Oh, and for information, two-party consent states doesnt apply when you are protecting yourself. Specially from those like James and his mother who make such calls as they did. This also applies to those who like to call up harassing people for money, as in scammers.
That would be so funny. Someone would be calling to blackmail you and at the end he would say :"And dont forget you dont have my consent to record this conversation!" and you could not proove the blackmail because the court would say: "Sorry you had no right to record this so we cant use this as evidence.". lololol
Story 1: How many times must this be said? Do not mess with the IT guy. Story 2: I want to hug OP for the loss of her mom, but also applaud and high five her for that slow burn revenge. She did right by not telling the AP about the vasectomy early on because the aftermath would not have been as epic. That woman thought she was going to have everything she wants all the while sleeping with a married man whose wife was dying of cancer. Story 3: James took what was an honest mistake that happens and turned it into something that it wasn't. He seems like the type to throw tantrums every time something does not go his way and use his mother's credibility when it suits him just like those entitled kids who say "wait until my mom hears about this" or "do you know who my family is".
Story 2: Ha. Ha. HA. Don't worry OP. Your mom knows, and you will see her again. (I mean unless your dome kind of monster otherwise.) You did nothing wrong. They made their bed.
Sometimes doctors tell women not to inform their husband when they're diagnosed with cancer. It's disturbingly common for men to decide they can't handle the stress and abandon her.
It takes a certain amount of grim determination to hold on to that secret for so long. The husband immediately cut ties with his wife once he knew she was going to pass away.
Sure, but the only real action OP needs to take for the long coin to work is not spill the beans. That seems like an amount of effort that can be easily maintained for decades especially if the father had a vested interest in that. However it seems really difficult for the secret not to accidentally spill during that time, like you would imagine at some point his doctor would casually mention the vasectomy during a checkup or something of that nature.
Story 2... I feel sad for OP because she had to go through watching her mother suffer an excruciating death due to cancer. From the sounds of things, cancer runs in her family, so she better keep on top of this. I always recommend that people who have cancer running in their families to do a genetics test to see if they carry the genes that can cause cancer, but if not to always go to their doctors for regular cancer testing. That said, I also feel a little bad for the affair partner. I know she did something wrong by carrying on an affair while OP's mother was quite literally suffering and dying of this horrible disease- but nobody deserves to have their spouse lie to them about fertility. However, if she wanted children so badly... you don't need to have biological children to feel complete. There's a lot of children that need parents and are waiting to be fostered and/or adopted. Honestly, OP's father sounds like a horrible person just for what he did to OP's mum. That poor woman knew she was dying and had to keep up appearances because she knew her husband had stepped out on her and had started an affair with the very woman who was playing nice.
To be fair, there was the cut context of this story being their friend's revenge, not theirs. They had to wait for her to pass away before spilling the beans so that none of it could blow back on the friend.
Story 2: This man literally cheated on his dying wife with a lady around his daughter's age, withheld that he had a vasectomy, married her, and wasted her child-bearing years for possibly decades! Unlike AP, Op's mother knew that he was obviously a sociopath, so she passed that info to OP. The story was nuclear for both AP and OP's dad.
Third story: DON'T GLOAT ONLINE. You're only giving ammunition to your enemies. James would have gotten away with it if he didn't trip over his own ego.
The second story leaves much to be desired in terms of catharsis. Don't get me wrong, my evil side rejoiced in the fact that the homewrecking coworker got her chance wasted, but it is really sad that all the repercussions the disgusting father got was two living and one dead person being mad at him. Because the cheating is horrible. But also wasting the homewrecker's time is evil af.
The cheating dad story makes me wonder how old he is. If OP and the coworker were close in age and the coworker hit menopause he must be at least up in his 50's, probably 60's.
@@transsnack You're just making my point. If OP was 37 and the father was 54 he would've been 17 when OP was born, most likely 16 at conception. While that does happen it's not common.
Story: When I came on board, they were 10 years out of date on technology." rSlash: When I came on board, they were 100 years out of date on technology." How Dabney timed 10 with itself and got 100 years out of date technology out of a sentence that was only 1/10 of that is beyond me.
As the daughter of a man who also cheated on her mother, I can't really fault OP for what she did, I'm just amazed she was able to keep up the act for as long as she did. Sure, you could say that what she did was wrong, but...so was the Coworker and the lying cheating scum father. You could say she was being an agent of karma.
Stary 2: remember ... if hes lying to be with you, he'll lie about other things too. Being complicate in an affair ... you know the kind of man your with. One that is happy to lie to get what he wants and you're happiness is second to his wants and "needs".
That last story is very similar to what’s currently happening with my former friend. Their behaviour has been incredibly entitled with staff and they’ve been emotionally manipulating me for months. I doubt they’ll get blacklisted but they definitely need some mental health support and at least a year out of uni
The coworker story: My Mother was terminally ill with Leukemia (battle for 11 years). Approximately a year before she died she made a short list of women that she thought would make a suitable wife for my Father, as she knew he would be a bit useless on his own. He married lady number 14 months after my Mother died. I know that my Mother did this out of the greatest love & respect for him. She wanted to make sure he was goingto be OK. I think OPs Mother was doing something similar? As for coworker being around to help care for OP's Mother. Be grateful. When people get long term sickness or terminal so many people can't handle it and just disappear from your life completely. The ones you think will be there, wont. Others will take a you completely by surprise with their strength and mental fortitude. She should be endlessly grateful to that woman for her help? Her father however is a bellend. He used that woman to help nurse his wife, help raise OP, get through a horrendously hard time, used up her youth, and to reward that he lied to her. Total POS.
Stort 1 & 3: yeah there were big consequences but neither feels like pro revenge Criminals are still walking loose, and you didnt even get paid And in the last story, the person did it to themselves, no one really did anything besides pass along a post
Dang they screwed that last bully out of two countries 😂😂 but something tells me he wouldn’t have been going to college anyway since the school issues would’ve still happened
James cannot get a spot in university anywhere in Europe or the US?! He was a total DB but that feels a bit overkill for his behavior. There must be a lot more worse things that he did that weren’t mentioned.
Second story: She should have been punishing the father for the shit he'd done. Not that woman. Sure she isn't completley innocent, but somehow, the dad was never targetted, wtf. At least she tried to build a relationship with the stepkid.
The last story should be labeled Nerd Revenge. I mean the kid got 7th in an academic competition and he was pressuring his school for better grades? How does that even make sense, and yeah I'd be pissed if I had an award ceremony but they decided to do it without me... This nerd revenge story doesn't make any sense, Are you saying he couldn't get into any university? for what reason, because he pressured the school to let him graduate. he obviously did well enough to graduate if he was 7th in the academic competition. This story smells like straight up Nerd BS
He can't go to university because f the evidence that he's not a good person who will harass and make false claims against other people, even school staff/administrators, and universities usually don't want to deal with people who might either cause them trouble or give them a bad reputaion. And also, their school somewhat sounds like a prestigious high school since it has connections to several univerities. So since he was basically blacklisted from those universities, he's blacklisted from all universities because of higherups at those universities most likely have connections with the higherups at other universities.
Have you not been paying attention? He got blacklisted for being an awful petty delusional maniac who abused his mothers influence to cheat the system when things didn’t go his way. All for what? Because his friend forgot to give a trophy back once?
@@artcasual99 This! Unlike high school, collage is not mandatory, so collages get to pick and choose who attends and when looking at hundreds/thousands of applicants the letters sent by the high school could make or break your chances, so a package of his bad behavior and threatening officials is not going to impress the collages at all! It is why most students try and get letters from their favorite teachers to help buff their applications to collage to stand out. So you could imagine what the collages are thinking when third parties take it upon themselves to send a packet with an applicant's bad behavior they stand out for all the wrong reasons. Grades are not the only thing considered when applying to collages because TONS of people get prefect grades and are still rejected because they take in other factors like behavior in school.
One of the reasons ovarian cancer is so deadly is that there’s often no symptoms until it’s too late. And even with regular screening it’s difficult to detect. There’s not really a definitive test for it either.
The other replies are accurate. Same thing happened to my grandmother: she seemed perfectly healthy, but then within a few months, boom. Ovarian cancer. Gone within a couple of years.
My last place, I was considered "indispensable" by pretty much *all* my cow-orkers. _"If you leave, how will they ever deal with XYZ??",_ etc. I never had any pretenses about being indispensable, and never banked on that. I *DID* ultimately get everything running on autopilot to the point where they *did* find me dispensable after all. And yeah, you *can* do your job too well...
Story #2: HeLLLLL naw, she should not have told them sooner, those cheaters made their choices. Sure it would have been nice to drop the bomb far earlier, but the satisfaction of knowing you could have set both of them free and are the reason they wasted their lives on a relationship that was never going to work? Priceless.
The affair story. I too would have kept that secret, and, waited as well. and, I would have smiled, with the phrase, Oh by the way, dad had a vasectomy that he never reversed. Then skipped out.
Second story was indeed cruel. There’s no way the mother didn’t know that her husband was cheating on her with that woman. But the dad should not have a.) cheated on his wife, and b.) never kept his vasectomy a secret knowing fully well she wanted a baby.
That last story is surprisingly complicated, if this were an AITA I'd go with ESH. Some more than others but seriously, all of this could have been avoided had any one single person acted like an adult and not repeatedly waited for their perfect moment to escalate the situation. SMH.
I kind of hope it slips that the op of the second story’s dad & the coworker’s relationship started as an affair & the dad realizes what OP implied about hiding secrets & that she knew. Yeah I feel bad that the coworker wasted her childbearing years on someone not interested in having more kids & that OP hid it from her a little too long but I feel like the dad shouldn’t have been the only one in trouble for secrets. This was a homewrecker duo that made it look like a loving husband/father’s coworker friend was trying to help out when in reality she’s his side piece slipping her way into his family & making it seem like while caring for the wife was possibly secretly rubbing it in that he chose her.(She talked about how she planned to have kids with her fiancé to the mom who found out this woman is sleeping with her husband) This man went out & had an affair while the wife he cared about to the point of even getting vasectomy was dying of cancer & then let his side piece he later married join the family as if he was already moving on.(I mean he was but he was still there for his DYING WIFE that managed to find out about the affair some how meaning these people weren’t as sneaky as they thought while pretending to be innocent/caring) I feel bad coworker wasted her time when she wanted kids but she’s not innocent, she chose to be a homewrecker & the dad doesn’t deserve to be the only one to be shunned. I dunno how to feel about OP hiding it until the right time, it’s all tricky cause on one hand OP deserves to get that revenge.
For the second story, I believe OP will see her mom. Why? Cause of several reasons: 1. Her plan was entirely dependent on the father not being a selfish moron and keeping the truth of his vasectomy from his AP and also dependent on the couple not finding another solution to have kids. 2. OP just repaid the same energy that the coworker did to her mom (seriously, the audacity of that woman). She, just like the coworker, played nice until the very end. The only difference is that OP revealed the truth while coworker didn't reveal anything to the mom or the daughter (thankfully she didn't realize that they actually knew and so this glorious revenge was able to take place). I feel like there was a kindness that OP gave that she didn't herself receive. 3. There really cannot be any sympathy for a cheater like her. Cheaters are awful but this one took the audacity crown and cake home. She not only was in her space, being friendly to her and her child while she was sleeping with her husband but while she was also DYING and her child was GRIEVING. Do you know how disgusting of a human being you have to be to do that? To act sympathetic towards a dying person and their child while stabbing BOTH of them (has to be both cause OP did not deserve having her father's AP around her while she was hoping for her mom to get better and didn't in the end) in the back? The husband is automatically disgusting for cheating and allowing that to happen too. Both of them deserve each other.
That last story What was James’s goal? Kyle was one of the most well liked people and this was all over a trophy and presentation? I don’t understand what his endgame was with this plan
Honestly, the cheating coworker is a touch dumb for not insisting her husband get checked, and when he inevitably refused the truth could have come out without OP getting involved more than they already did by staying mum. Though, if the father was capable of keeping that secret and continually lying to his wife, then I guess he'd also be capable of manipulating her into thinking he wasn't the problem with their "fertility" issues. Despite the cheating I do feel a little sorry for the woman, because at the end of the day OP's father was the most cruel of all. Emotionally and physically cheating on his wife the second she was diagnosed, then continually lying and betraying his second wife. People in general need to stop marrying the people they cheat with: you KNOW you're marrying someone with compromised morals and views on fidelity, their track record is bad and you know it, it should be no surprise that they are capable of betraying you in other ways even if they don't cheat on you in the end. But still...I kind of want to excuse her for being young and dumb at the start, but how can you offer that kind of support to a woman dying in hospice all the while planning on taking her place? Something bad there that she definitely never confronted within herself.
Ok but for the second story, the dad WAS in fact horrible for not telling his partner about his vasectomy. Yeah, it was arguably cruel of OP but OP had no obligation to say anything as it wasn't their procedure that they went through preventing the partner from having kids, it was the dad's procedure. This whole thing wouldn't have happened if he had just been honest.
story 2 - the coworker and father are complete scum, but in my opinion OP's revenge was somewhat misguided. The revenge hit the AP hardest as she basically cant have kids now and I totally think she deserved it, but it wasn't her responsibility to be good to OP's mom that was the Fathers job so he should be the one to bear the brunt of the revenge. The father got away with this horrible scummy behavior and lived the good life for YEARS and his punishment was just an angry divorce and losing contact with OP. Not sure what OP could have done differently, but the father should have paid more for what he did and more importantly OP didn't deserve the years of self torturer.
Stpry 2: What did the cheater expect marrying a fucking liar. There's that phrase that says, if they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you, but it's more than that. If they'll lie with you, they'll lie to you.
Hate to say this, but the coworker, in my opinion, honestly deserves that outcome... She practically barged into OP's life as another mother figure while her mother was still alive. She didn't have to, but by doing that, the initial trust OP had for her started to dwindle and just got worse as time went by. OP could have told her about the vasectomy, but the trust at that point was probably too low. Pretty sure she just wanted the coworker to feel the same pain she was feeling. Betrayal is an awful thing. It also wasn't her job to spill it either. That responsibility lies entirely on her father's shoulders. So essentially it's his fault for not disclosing that information, not OPs. He's the true monster in this story.
The end of story 2, op says "I know I'm not going where my mom is for what I've done" keep in mind, gods love isn't restricted to just 1 group of people, his love and forgiveness is for anyone willing to accept it.
I was like... why does everyone think that doing one bad thing sends them to Hell? This (arguably) wasn't even bad, but salvation doesn't work that way... at least not in Christianity. It's graded on the pass/fail system, if you accept it, Jesus has already paid your full scholarship.
My late Mum adored Dad Jokes - the worse, the better. I used to work with a mate who quite literally had a terrible new joke each morning. For around 3 years, each morning I'd get a joke from James & relay it immediately to Mum. It's the little things. 🥹
All James had to do was NOT be a dick to Kyle and he would've been fine. He just had to go and be a jealous monkey and ruin his own life by messing with the wrong people.
