The first TikTok is a classic queer joke tho. Saying "ugh, I hate that i look so gay" ironically, is peak queer culture. The other two people in that TikTok not getting it just shows that they are not familiar with the culture and it's jokes.
This just reminded me of a joke a few years back - I'm openly queer and have been for ages, one of the coworkers asked me to hang things up and when she checked asked for me to "make sure they were straight". I said "you're asking the least straight person to judge straightness" and we both had a laugh about it
Im a cis woman who socially transitioned in 2017. I cut my hair, started wearing only mens clothes, went by a new name and pronouns and wore a binder too. I went to gender therapy to ultimately just figure out the right medical transition route for me. I live in BC Canada, where its all covered. I realized through therapy that I was having identity issues due to alot of other things. The gender dysphoria was coming from trauma, autism, bpd and body dysmorphia. I did a few more sessions with the gender therapist and then did DBT and trauma counselling. I am actually the most feminine Ive ever been. And thats because gender therapy and access to these services is GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. It helped me, a cis woman, figure things out And that to me, is just an example of why gender therapy and trans health care SHOULD be accessible everywhere. Unfortunately, the transphobia and anti trans youth movement has exploded here in Canada too and people are protesting even in my own town. I detransitioned and found myself as an autistic bisexual cis woman. And it made me want to advocate for trans rights even harder.
That's right! People often miss the meaning of words " therapy" and "care". Like investigation, the process can have different results. The purpose is not to make everyone transition or to prevent everyone from transitioning. The purpose is every patient's health and happiness.
Hey, just in case anybody wants or needs to hear some good news: Germany has just passed a law that allows anybody to easily change their legal gender into their prefered gender (options: male, female, diverse) without any tests or anything. It's called the law on self-determination with regard to gender registration or just self-determination law.
As a cisgender woman who had endometriosis, a hysterectomy, and never wanted kids anyway, I find it incredibly angering when people reduce me to my sex parts. Especially people who claim to be feminist.
Yep, I'm a demiguy and no endo (much to both my doctor and I's shock), but I've also had a hysterectomy and OMG the gross stuff I've been told. And the fact that even saying something like "I finally evicted my bastard uterus, good riddance" gets met with "I'm so sorry you lost your uterus", and "Don't worry, your life isn't totally over".
@@waffles3629 Yup. Like, my uterus was awful. I hated it so much. It brought me nothing but pain and misery. I basically couldn't function as an adult until it was removed. I had no regrets at all in removing, only relief and happiness in finally finding a doctor willing to do it.
@@dragonofmordor I had a hysterectomy because I had cancer. I was so happy to get it removed. It was probably worth having cancer to get rid of it. I could possibly still be having periods to this day if it was still in me. It was such a relief to not have them any more. It's been over 11 years since I got it out.
@@makeinubakaI got a hysterectomy because my uterus was trying to kill me, too. The surgeon actually asked if I was sure because I might want kids later and regret it. (I'd already told her I was asexual and child free by choice.) I looked her in the eyes and told her, "If I want kids, at least I'll be alive to adopt."
God, I feel you on being reduced to sex parts, though I am speaking from a different perspective as a trans guy who still has their uterus. It's honestly a poor way to understand someone's gender alone when the human body is not so binary as people like to think it is, and that's ignoring how objectifying it is when you just rely on body parts.
"i hate that they're right" CLEARLY means "i'm somewhat embarrassed that my look is so stereotypically non-binary that a total stranger can correctly guess my pronouns before i've spoken a single word." obviously they don't want to be misgendered, but it's that kind of feeling like when someone sees my fat white lady ass and goes "can i offer you a pumpkin spice latte?" ...yes, yes you can but it's a little awkward that i can be read so easily >.>;;
love candace jumping from "you have to be born with a uterus to have a baby" (true) to "only women can get pregnant." she entirely skips the question of "does a uterus make someone a woman? does the ability to get pregnant make someone a woman?" yes, you have to be born with a uterus to get pregnant. some people who are born with a uterus turn out to be men. some people who are born with a uterus can't ever get pregnant. some people who, chromosomally and hormonally and psychologically, would be identified as a woman were NOT born with a uterus.
There's a lady, Lucy Kartikasari from the Netherlands(?) who labels herself as "detransgender." Assigned female at birth, she medically transitioned including top surgery and HRT. Then after about a decade she transitioned back to being a woman. And she is hugely supportive of the trans community. She says she regrets almost nothing of her choices. She uses the term "detransgender" versus "detransitioner" because de-transgender can be read as "from transgender." She sees having identified as transgender as a valid part of her ongoing journey as a person. It's really lovely to hear about people from the detrans community who arent anti-trans. Which is the vast majority. Anti-trans detransitioners are rare but given an outsized platform.
@@advanceringnewholderI looked her up on TikTok, she has both the Dutch and the Indonesian flag in her bio as well as the Australian one. She might have been born in the Netherlands and has Indonesian roots and now lives in Australia or has a Dutch parent.
@@advanceringnewholder Considering that the Netherlands colonized Indonesia at some point (and my own Indonesian heritage) it's really likely she just has Indonesian heritage or is Indonesian living in the NL.
@@merilynnshark6144 I'm sure It's dependant on country just like for trans people, but definitely there are challenges. From what I've heard even less support than for trans folk. Medical professionals I think become a bit leery of the idea of someone wanting medical intervention then changing their mind and wanting further intervention to reverse it. But in the end, whether transition or detransition it's gender affirming care and deserves to be taken seriously.
Even saying that a woman is an "adult human female" is not correct, as it does not cover all edge cases. For example, how many adults are there on the average Women's Gymnastics team at the Olympics?
There's women born without a uteris, or they never grow bubbas, who grow facial hair, can't have children, ... (There's been womb transplants on the women born without one: 90 succesful ones, with 50 succesful, healthy births! This is a huge step for science, and infertile women would be able to have children much easyer too in the future. Or even trans women?...)
If I ran into an airport and screamed, "I have a 💣" I would be arrested. Those would be the consequences of my choices. I'm totally free to say/do that, no one is technically stopping me. I'm just aware that certain things have consequences because I have a functioning brain.
The saddest thing is, I'm aware of at least one person with Tourette's that has coprolalia and literally shouted that out at an airport. Thankfully they phoned up to warn them beforehand, but it must have been so scary (I think they were a teenager at the time).
@@mrseaweed88I completely understand the analogy, however yelling 💣 or 🔥 in a public space is actually not protected by the first amendment. They’re one of the few exceptions as inciting panic when there is no threat is punishable by law. I think FAFO applies better. Sure you CAN say some horribly deplorable sh*t to someone but that’s doesn’t mean they’ll refrain from returning the favor at some capacity (like exposing what you said to your boss, for example)
@@CashhhhewI agree, but Jamie made it out that the government can arrest you, which it can’t. Sure people can protest, boycott, but unless you invite a panic or threaten violence, the US government will not intervene. Other countries are def more strict, like Scotland, Canada is also pretty restrictive when it comes to free speech.
I just got wilderness first aid certified. Part of our training was that people need to consent, for kids their parent or guardian provides consent for them. If kids cannot have medical intervention and gender affirming care because they “can’t consent” I also can’t pack your kids deep cut in the woods, they’re gonna die. I wish people would just see how deeply LGBTQ+ identity issues can affect kids when they don’t feel like they are in a safe place to come out. Gender affirming care is lifesaving care, maybe not as imminently as bleeding out in the woods, but trans kids still need support and care and medical treatments as determined necessary by someone able to make that call.
@@catalyst3713 being inclusive to me is not exclusive with disrespecting myself and my standards. I don’t come into spaces spouting off about a narrow point of view to a large group of people who aren’t going to take kindly to that. Don’t play victim here.
It’s wild how many people think trans folks are asking others to call them any a certain name or pronoun. Like, I’m not asking you for anything, I’m informing you of what my gender and name is, you can choose not to use it but then you’ll simply be incorrect?
As long as you pass as the gender you identify and not going by they/them or any other pronouns outside of she/her and he/him, you shouldn't have any problems in general
I've had transphobes refuse to use my name until I give them my "real name". Aka my birth name, aka the name I go by. They are asking for the name I told them. Often while aggressively "misgendering" me with the pronouns I just said.
I think a certain hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy quote comes to mind: "why can't we all just he nice to each other for a change" I wish transphobes could understand this.
if people have so much trouble with the latin prefixes cis and trans, let's use greek! people who's gender is different from assigned at birth are heterogender and people who's gender is the same as assigned at birth are homogender! that'll fix all the troubles!
Nooo, they don't have a problem with the terms themselvs, they have a problem with what it implies, that it's a possibility that people can be a gender that isnt their assumed gender at birth, so they take away those words so you can't categorise it
I am 42 and I decided to avoid pregnancy by abstaining from sex because I'm physically disabled and cannot take care of a child. I am just now taking care of myself. Candace is saying not getting pregnant makes me less of a woman. Now I don't like her. Big L
@@Him_He_Me the only thing that bothered me is how she implied a woman is not a woman until she concieves and gives birth to a child, like all women should reproduce or they're not women. Can you imagine how many people there would be on earth if every single person was fertile and straight? Like 20 billion people.
People have very good reasons for not wanting to have kids. Simply not wanting them is as valid as any other reason. Your identity should not be dependent on whether you produce offspring or not.
I saw a clip of Allison Bailey of the so-called LGB Alliance talking about how "young girls [I.e. boys] are removing their breasts that have never felt a lover's caress." It's implying that the purpose of breasts is for a lover to "caress", which is not just scientifically wrong, but also very much not feminist. This thought most certainly stems from internalized misogyny.
@@LoremIpsum-dp1li there happens to be a widespread misunderstanding with regard to that quote. If memory serves, it is the opinion/quote of someone interviewing Allison Bailey. That said, my memory also tells me it was a print article (though this same interview could exist in both video and print).
All trans women are women, but not all women are trans women. Just like how cake is dessert, but not all dessert is cake. The existence of trans women does not diminish cis women's existence, at least I don't feel diminished and I'm friends with several trans women XD Also, as someone who studied biology, I really hate it when people conflate sex, gender and sexuality. They're three different things.
I’m a couple weeks away from having my Bachelor’s in women’s and gender studies. I find it frustrating and sad with the sex/gender/sexuality thing. I wish more people would recognize they are completely different, but related, things
Trans-women are biologically male, and Trans-men are biologically female. Women are biologically female, and Men are biologically male. So no, Trans-women are not women, and Trans-men are not men. It's just reality.
I think it’s so funny when they say “it’s basic biology” like damn you only did basic biology no wonder your confused it’s advanced biology when they go into he fact that gender is literally biologically a spectrum, it’s controlled by multiple different chromosomes that don’t always match up and your gender and/or sex are decided by the different combinations of those chromosomes. That’s why it’s actually not that uncommon for someone to XX and have fully male anatomy or be XY and have fully female anatomy. It’s almost like the human body has the capacity to be grow into any gender so trying to make it black and white doesn’t work
Odin carved the first man from an oak and the first woman from an ash. There are as many genders as there are trees and each person makes up the beauty of the forest
I Jewish. My favorite example of more than two genders is the 8 genders in the Talmud. My Jewish Learning has a great article on it. Here is an example from the article that applies to me as a trans woman. "Saris adam, identified male at birth and later developing female characteristics through human intervention." Yep, centuries ago Rabbis understood that there are male assigned people who medically transition. There is also the term "Aylonit adam" for female assigned people who medically transition. And they include categories that can apply to nonbinary and intersex folks. "Androgynos, having both male and female characteristics. Tumtum, lacking sexual characteristics."
I think Jaime missed a massive laps in logic in that last video, the story was about a trans person who "identified as a girl from a young age and never wavered or contradicted herself." And the parent was like "yes this is a long running thing I will respect you child and your knowledge of yourself" the anti-trans guy immediately attacked hormones and their supposed use on young kids, when neither hormones, nor giving them to children were ever mentioned. Man literally changed the story so he could make a very supportive dad for his trans kid sound like a bad thing
I REALLY wish that supportive dad had just responded with "What the hell are you talking about, dumbass? That child ISN'T 'getting hormones' - THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. She'll get puberty blockers when she hits puberty, but she won't be getting any hormones 'added' until she's eighteen. If you don't know what you're talking about, DO THE RESEARCH - don't just make a bunch of shit up to fake people into getting mad."
32:38 Not sure if you are saying that later, Jamie doesn't re-mention it? But time stamp I saw your comment just as I was getting to that part of the video.). Jamie does address here that Rogen mentioned hormones, but that Adam Conover never mentioned hormones were given.
I hated being called cisgender, and that made me feel like an asshole. I later figured out why I hated it when I finally realized that I was trans. I was internally so frustrated with my gender identity that it must have reminded me of what I was not. I spent so much of my life lying to myself about anything LGBTQIA+. Now I am finally out as a bisexual transman, and I finally feel comfortable.
Never forget Candice went to the Ben Shapiro school of debate which is simply throw out as many words as you can so your opponent who more than likely doesn't not naturally talk that fast can't get a word in
Any time I realize someone isn't going to let me get a word in edgewise I pull out my phone. Tells them they aren't worth my time as well as just lets me ignore them.
The thing about those parents who say things like “my baby is a boy and nothing will change that.” The slightest gender nonconformity and the parents will be bombarding them with “you’re a boy, you know.” And things like this, believe me, I know.
I have a trans uncle and I myself am trans. My mom always says “but they will always be my sister” and when she misgenders me she uses the excuse “Im old and my mind is set in its ways.”
@@xBloodxFangx Air horn at the dinner table each time she gets it wrong. Either that, or you start having candid conversations about early onset dementia and how are concerned about the way she seems to struggle so much with change in her everyday life. Stress that you love her and she will always be your mom, but there are spezialized care homes where her needs could be properly met. Get some flyers.
@@WantedVisualchaotic good spotted, that's a good idea though... But one I doubt I'll ever get the chance to try out myself since it turned out that most of my family on my mother's side are either LGBT+ or allies. On the other side though... They're all allergic to communication and family ties so I think I'm safe there, they don't need to know what I'm up to since the only one who's shown any interest in communication I've actively blicked as he unfortunately just wants to continue actively causing harm- and he's very likely unaware that I'm trans since I only told family who also hate him for his actions. Man, people like that are tiring though, so much wasted energy on their part
Misgendering a cis person: "Can you please not do that?" "Oh yeah sure thing." Misgendering a trans person: "Can you please not do that?" "I have as much right as I want to call you what I want!"
@@waffles3629 No, it would be woman and men and then trans men and trans women. Your reply is stating that trans women are biological women/females and they just aren't.
"Only women can get pregnant"... Darn, I'd hate to be a vet dealing with all those different species of animals and only being able to call them "woman". 🙄
My thing about "sepereting the art from the artist" in regard to JK Rowling. You can see her sexist views in her writing. Hermione and Luna is just to troll woman. They laugh at Hermione for wanting to free the elves from slavery. The transphobia isnt in the writing but there's enough other repulsive shit that you just can't avoid. I won't even get started on the racism elements too.
There's so much woman bashing in Harry Potter! I didn't see it in Hermione and Luna, I quite like them but there's a lot of making fun of girly girls in the books. Like making fun of lavender for her giggling and boy-craziness or Cho for crying all the time. Also, there are evil characters portrayed as manly like Rita Skeeter
@emily79519 I quite like Luna myself. But if you look at the way she was written it felt like a parody of stoner hippies in an oddly sexist way. Hermione felt like a huge joke of liberal woman fighting for rights and wanting to be well read and educated. Again. They all made fun of her for wanting to free elves from slavery which is not funny???
"Free speech" doesn't protect defamatory speech, harassment and slander. If a publication slanders someone (knowingly distributes false information about someone), that someone can sue. I'd argue that calling a trans woman "a man" and INSIST on using he/him pronouns for her is not just slander, but harassment that seeks to cause distress. It's tricky though, culture at large has to reach critical mass of understanding this before a legal precedent can be set.
A good chunk of the US has a weird obsession with free speech. Like, they don't seem to remember that slander and truth in advertising laws also limit free speech. Free speech without limits leads to politicians and corporations being allowed to lie wildly without consequence.
As my math teacher said, "You can do anything you want. You can say anything you want. Just don't expect there will be no consequences for what you say and do."
xkcd once made a comic about how free speech does not mean others have to tolerate your views, and in the title text, Randall talks about how he once heard someone say that defending your position with "free speech" is really the ultimate concession since it's saying that the best thing you can say about your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
And the thing is that Freedom of Speech just means that a government can't prosecute you for your opinions. But as a person technically you could sue anyone for slander or libel, it doesn't guarantee you'll win, but you can.
My cis female cousin had puberty blockers when she was younger, because her parents hoped she would grow taller before puberty stops her bone growth. I don't know if the wanted effect was ever achieved, but she is a happy mother of two children nowadays. No ill effects. Just a little extra time to grow.
The reality is that they aren't against puberty blockers. They are against any level of gender non-conformity. So they are against youth expressing as the opposite sex, changing names and pronouns, and puberty blockers. There is no "acceptable" gender non-conformity. The closest they come is telling trans youth to just me a "feminine boy" or a "masculine girl." But that is _only_ said to trans kids. Cis youth who are gender non-conforming are told to be more traditional. The goal posts for queer people are always one yard backwards from wherever they currently are. And those goal posts will keep moving backwards and until they hit cishet normative traditional gender roles.
Puberty blockers have also been used for decades in cases of precocious puberty. Imagine being 7 years old and developing breasts, or starting to menstruate. Haven't heard of any long-term negative side effects of the use of these medications.
That is a different scenario. With gender dysphoric kids, puberty blockers is stopping their natural puberty from developing. Ex. Doctor gives PB for a 13 year old and the 13 year stops puberty blockers stops at 16, at that point they can't reverse time and get back 3 years worth of missed puberty.
@@cole5669thats not how it works. It's not like you can only undergo puberty during a set few years (thus missing out on 3 years of puberty due to being on blockers for 3 years.) Puberty will simply resume upon coming off blockers and will still go for just as long. The process simply starts later.
@@ILuvMoogles I've never heard of that and even if that's the case, puberty is essential for physical and mental development, so it's best to be left alone.
luckily, transphobia in general has gone down a lot, however the transphobes are just becoming louder and louder because they're with less people and are actively trying to find other transphobes now. My brother used to be kinda transphobic and homophobic but now he's actively referring to me as his sister (for context: I'm a trans woman) so yes, slowly transphobes are lessening in numbers
transphobes will seriously get enraged over and look wayyy too deep into an obvious joke but then insist that we are the sensitive and misguided ones 😭
Whenever people bring up the "buT It'S FReE SpeECH!!!" argument, I think of this line from an xkcd comic: "I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express."
I am a huge free speech supporter. I am a Jew and will defend the free speech rights of Neo Nazis. But I will also denounce their views. You can support someone's right to express their views while strongly condemning those views.
You have the right to say bigoted things, but I also have the right to tell you to shut the fuck up. Also, you don't have the right to do whatever you want. If you're causing harm that's not free speech.
@@jennoscura2381 exactly! Unless it's a law to talk about a certain subject ever, you have free speech to talk about it! Even if it's socially unnaceptable, you're still not going to prison :) Maybe to the hospital though if you're particularly annoying though
@@jennoscura2381 i feel like that gets into the tolerance paradox, whereby being tolerant of intolerant views allows those intolerant views to spread and recruit more intolerant people and silence by intimidation the people those intolerant views are targeting. so it is because i denounce the views of neo-nazis and any views which would advocate for the extermination of a group of people that i will NOT defend the "free speech rights" of those people. besides, we already have laws limiting free speech when it is a public health and safety threat: you can't yell FIRE in a crowded theater, you can't make terroristic threats, you can't make death threats against ANYONE... there's actually a lot of limitations and rightly so. "free speech" basically just means the secret service can't throw you in prison for saying donald trump sucks donkey dick.
6:11. Even when we DO provide them with receipts of JKR being transphobic, they will still come back with “she never said that” or “how is that transphobic”. It’s because to them “transphobia” doesn’t exist because trans people don’t exist. It’s the whole “Telling the truth isn’t transphobic” BS that they spout on a daily basis. Also I agree Jamie. I used to LOVE HP. I even tried the “separate the art from the artist” thing but I just can’t. Every time I look at anything HP I just see all the horrible things she has done to hurt people I love.
the detransitioners falling into the transphobe pipeline are what saddens me the most. By falling ito that pipeline they have only ensured they'll be more isolated and alone by shunning away people who might have understood and sympathetised with them, and are causing people to have a negative view of detransitioners in general. So many have become convinced that any complications or problems they faced are universal and are now actively hurting trans people and being outright cruel in their fight to 'save' people from ebing trans, and they jsut cannot see what they've become or what they're doing in the process.
What drives me most crazy is that these people intentionally misunderstand the entire topic of being trans and then act like they are experts. While actual trans people who are experiencing this in real time, firsthand are ignored and told we don't have a right to say anything. It's madness.
‘iTs UnNaTuRaL’ coughs in 8 genders of the talmud, sekhet ancient Egyptian gender, the Hijra people of the Indian subcontinent, the priestesses of inanna, the priests of the Eurasian scythians, the māhū of indigenous Polynesia, sistergirls and brotherboys in indigenous Australian nations, the priestesses of Dionysus, two spirit people in indigenous nations of turtle island, the eunuchs described to have frequented the Ptolemaic courts, the mudoko dako of modern day Uganda, the jinbaanda of central Africa… I think the only place we’re missing is the coloniser nations of western europe. Hm. Weird.
When the British showed up they made the hijra illegal when they occupied India. There's also the Muxes of Latin America which were persecuted under the Spanish. You have the mahu from Hawai'i which much like the rest of the native island life suffered under control from the US. You and I both understand what these people do not want to face which is the fact that the concept of a heteronormative two gender society is a product of Western colonialism from a strictly puritanical society with heavily enforced gender roles. The kind of gender roles that had women burned at the stake for wearing pants
@@TheWerewolfOfNorway-mf5jz the irony of your username trying to be edgy about Noray when it is an incredibly inclusive country both legally and socially. PS your transphobia has no place here, please leave.
Yea. I am a post op trans woman. For me trans only really comes up when it's time to inject my estrogen. Otherwise, for the most part I am just living my life. I am an observant Jew. Judaism occupies my bain for more than being trans. Especially since Passover is tomorrow.
@jennoscura2381 my step brother is gay and Jewish and I think it's the same for him too. He'll be celebrating Passover with his mom and her family tomorrow
Yep, they really do act like we spend all day thinking "I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans I'm trans". Yeah, I'm actually just trying to decide what kind of waffles I want.
i have all of the harry potter books and i am trans the one thing i do that i find funny is i put a pride flag over the author name when they are on the shelf so it doesnt ruin my bedroom
I have all my Harry Potter stuff, movies, books. And I am trans. I literally grew up with it. The author is loony but Im not letting her ruin my love for Harry Potter
I did one further. I gave away all my physical copy books ages ago just to save the space and weight when moving. Her true nature was not well known then, especially not to me. But now that I know she's transgender? I certainly don't plan to buy them again, but they're still nostalgic for me. So... Arr, me hearties, let's sail the seven seas and still enjoy ye olde story without supportin' that bilgerat author!
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 So you agree that trans women should reject being called a man and trans men should reject being called a woman. Great! Thanks for your understanding. 😇
17:16 this is actually considered a hate crime in Canada! To actively harrass and purposely misgender someone is considered a hate crime in Canada as it would be covered by our laws. Simply misgendering someone by accident wouldn't but if someone was harassing Dylan here because of her identity by misgendering her, it's a crime.
This is EXACTLY what transphobes don't seem to be able to comprehend. If you misgender someone the first time by accident (either because they look kind of 'ambiguous' in that sense or you just don't pick up the clues for whatever reason) most of the time you're not going to get any pushback for it, maybe just a correction and perhaps a polite request to use the correct term in future. Which, if you're a respectful person with *actual manners,* is not a difficult thing to do - we're taught politeness and consideration for others as *little kids,* and most *little kids* can manage to both grasp the concept and act on the knowledge learned. But if you're *repeatedly* misgendering someone, even after being asked not to do so, THAT IS A CHOICE YOU ARE MAKING. You're not receiving pushback for something that's completely out of your control - *you are repeatedly putting thought and effort into doing the thing that is getting you pushback.* You are that idiot repeatedly standing on the rake and then getting annoyed when that rake smashes you in the face, instead of - y'know, *not standing on the rake.* You CHOOSE to be that idiot, the world will TREAT you like that idiot, it's not rocket science!
@@sheersternfeld1914 I think genderfaun. That's gender fluidity that more encompasses masculine genders. Genderfae more encompasses feminine genders. I'm genderflor myself, which is agender genderfluid.
The detransers are ridiculous... it's like someone who has an allergy to tylenol going on a rampage on everyone elses page with "Hey... I took tylenol too and didn't think I'd regret it but then I did... so it's dangerous to deal with that headache. Why can't you just accept your headache you were born with and why are we pushing this idea of treating headaches on children?"
@Vahlee-A It’s not a perfect solution, but maybe balled up socks could work? I know that I am probably far from the first person to say this but it might help.
New assignment for them I guess Edit: my firat reply seems to have disappeared. The 'them' I was referring to were the Naval division of the Locibarpulan Lancers, who I was already planning to send over to Terf Island for otger reasons
She is correct, many great artist in history were racist, sexist, anti-semetic, etc, but because they are dead they do not profit off of our enjoyment of their work. JKR is still alive and does financially benefit from us using her products, and she recently used 70 000 pounds of that profit to continue to harm trans people.
I think it also depends on the creation/art form. Edit: Such as how much of their ideology goes into the artform and whether they're gaining influence or funds from it.
I never understand why anything that's reduces gender dysphoria is bad *hiss* but things like plastic surgery for body dysmorphia/dysphoria is "normal"; Boob jobs are normal, nose jobs are normal, BBLs are normal, but woe upon the world if a teen were to get puberty blockers.....
look up "precocious puberty". you know what else was available over the counter in the 70's? Amphetamines. For housewives. Who would then take benzo's to sleep.
I'm going to have a hysterectomy within now and a few years. So I guess I'm not going to be a female anymore. Oh wait, I'm childless and already missing my tubes, so I guess i haven't been one for years now. Oh well 🤷♀️
Also, having the cis man argue in favor of transmen being real men even if they have babies actually makes me really happy because of my prior experiences with cis men.
People misunderstand the First Amendment all the time. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference. It's not a private person's right to slander or hate another person with no consequence. Words matter.
Somewhat. They liked to use "normal" instead of "heterosexual". Now they've moved to focusing on trans people and wanting to say "biological" instead of "cisgender".
Science has shown us that light is a spectrum. We regularly refer to degrees of autism as being on the spectrum. I think we need to realize that gender is also a spectrum and that a lot of things we have traditionally tried to classify as one thing or another are likely on a scale as well. It's going to be a long hard road for a lot of people to get to acceptance, unfortunately.
The guy complaining about free speech and saying that Dylan Mulvaney should be okay with being misgendered is forgetting that there are exceptions to free speech, namely slander, libel, and defamation. I can't wait until we get to a point where trans people can sue bigots for defamation if they continuously publish articles misgendering trans people. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not totally versed on how all of this works, but I know in New York, it's at least classified as hate speech.
People who say others should be okay with being misgendered should be misgendered right back, even called the wrong name; see how long before they complain.
Germany's new trans law has this as a clause. Willfully misgendering someone who (the accused suspects) has legally changed their name and gender can be fined up to €10.000 starting this November.
Am I the only one that thinks it's weird that some people that were alive during the 1960's - 1980's don't remember the widespread experimentation in gender expression that happened in pop culture before the 90's. I mean, just look at the music videos, you know?
David Bowie, Queen, Prince, every glam rock band, just to name a few examples. And the music was so good, too! I'd think it would make them more accepting.
@@cole5669 You say that now, but that's only because the goalposts moved. Many of the same groups and organisations railing against transgender people now were railing against non-standard gender expression back then.
@@Shampyon Gender expression been okay since the 80s and even before then. Gender identity is going overboard, because you have ppl with obscured pronouns outside of they/them, some trans ppl don't understand that sports is based off your biological sex,not your gender identity, women and girls don't feel safe or comfortable in their own locker rooms, and so much more. So they'll always be this disdain with gender identity the more things keep going this way.
i used to be transmedicalist and a bit nb-phobic (believing in "trans-trenders"), till one day it just clicked in my mind. Like why the fuck do i care what other people do, im a transgender man, their are so many cis people that wouldnt respect my identity and who i am. Why would i do the same thing to people that have it even worse bc they dont fit in the binary ? (since then ive worked a lot on many of my bigotries and how its just best that everyone can be who they are) Like how much free rental space do we take in those transphobic people ? meanwhile we're just trying to live "normal lives"
I grew up with homophobia and transphobia so I was a bit of a bigot for a time. Glad to have learned to be chill through my move :) I’m Pan/Ace NB now so, kinda funny.
@@ekrtznekrtz5229they don’t. They define male and female, with is a pretty strict biological thing (obviously with exceptions, like intersex people). The concept of man and woman is more so psychological or physiological. Sex does not equal gender. Stop looking in the wrong place to find the correct answers.
That "these are facts" lady just wanted to get that out of her system. She's rapidly insisting that she's correct and doesn't need a reason, it's just facts. The dude was just a target to release it onto.
You know what I am not going to be able to watch this. I have a trans child and to me this is total strangers hating on my baby (Um, he's 26, but still my baby).
perfect thing to watch on a walk 3:17 not to go on a tangent but why are we still doing this? that essay from a few years ago was mostly about trans men being "tricked" and condescending to them in a weird way while also dehumanising them and treating them like scum. one of the first transphobic tweets of hers that most people paid attention to was erasing and misgendering trans men. she buys into the anti-transmasc crap just as much as the anti-transfem stuff at least. man, can we stop pretending jk is completely focused on specifically trans women?
I don't get the extreme reaction to hormone blockers. Like, we're totally cool with giving them to kids when they have medical issues where they need them. hormone blockers don't transition someone. They just pause things until they are old enough to make decisions without being forced to go through things that might be extremely traumatic for them. TBH, I'm not trans, but as someone who due to medical issues found hormones incredibly traumatic right from the start, I would have loved to have access to hormone blockers.
Free speech just gives you the right to speak, not the right to be heard. You're entitled to your opinion, but nobody has to agree with you or give you a platform to speak from, nor does it render you immune to consequences for saying something that can hurt others, like libel, threats, inciting suicide or violence, etc.
All those transphobes would be royally pissed if someone would use the wrong pronouns for them and yet they think that trans people should be fine with it. I'm fortunate enough that I'm fine with my afab pronouns (as agender) so it doesn't bother me to still be referred to as she/her & Miss etc - though I do have a good amount of gender dysphoria about certain parts of my body so sadly it's not all well. I feel for those in the trans community that have to deal with this stuff.. I sometimes see comments that are pretty mean spirited and ignorant and it truly hurt me to see. (I stay off of social media for the most part, because I can't deal with all the hate) Whoever reads this: I love you. If there are people that can hate for no reason, it means that I can love for no reason.
In my country there was a politician that was talking ridicule about people having preffered pronounce, because of some kind of bug the system gave everyone he/she/they behind their name on the goverment website, she was angry and wanted to be called she. An other person said they should have know our party only has people with he/him pronounces in the goverment, they are religous and think women shouldn't be in politics. It was fixed realy fast.
Supporting the art without supporting the artist becomes a little bit more complicated when some of the actors loudly become allies against the autor's transphobia.
Bro they’re gonna hate when they find out the oldest book we have evidence of explicitly described trans people… shout out to the priestess of that ancient Mesopotamian goddess (Inanna) who pretty much invented signing off books with an author and also said “To turn a man into a woman and a woman into a man are yours, Inanna” This continues with Ishtar, a similar Sumerian deity.
The other day this kid was being transphobic abt my partner (not maliciously but still icky) and he ended up quoting the Bible verse about homosexuality being a sin lmao, unsurprisingly he also works at chickfilla
My new favourite response to bigots using the Bible as a defence is to quote a random other book (my choice is the Gruffalo), followed by, "see, I can quote a book too, and it has just as much evidence as existing as your book". It tends to shut them up. 😂
That's why I refuse to eat at Chick-fil-A. I don't care how much people rave about how much they love their food, I'm hot spending my hard-earned cash to support homophobia and transphobia. I won't set foot in a Hobby Lobby for the same reason.
I will never understand the obsession that transphobes & homophobes have with if someone else can have children or not. Like I'm a cis woman who will never have children of my own due to not only my fertility issues but also because even if I could have children I don't want to potentially pass down health issues to said children along with the idea of being pregnant not being appealing to me at all. Should my future wife & I want kids outside of our fur babies, then we would decide together how to go about that. Also every single time a bigot wants to use the free speech argument to justify saying hateful & harmful things I always think of two things: 1. Just because you can doesn't mean you should and 2. Having the freedom to say what you want doesn't mean you can't be called out or face consequences for it. If what you say leads to people getting put into a harmful situation or results in people getting harmed or killed then you will be held accountable for it. It's why if you scream fire in a movie theater or bomb in an airport you will be arrested for it because you are deliberately putting people into a dangerous situation were someone can & probably will get hurt. Yes you have the freedom of speech but that doesn't mean it's like a get of jail free card to spread misinformation or hate that harms other people
That 1% regret detransition rate is potentially slightly misleading depending on phrasing. It is good to point out that it is 1% of all detransitioners, not 1% of all trans people. The difference is that instead of being a fraction from a fraction, in reality it is a fraction from a fraction from a fraction. In otherwords, you need thousands and thousands of trans people before you find one who will not only detransition, but does so due to regret. Overall detransition rate would plummet with societal acceptance and I have a feeling it would also further reduce detransitions due to regret as well and not just due to societal pressure.
For medical transitioning overall of the 0.47% who detransition over 65% still identify as trans and either medically transitioning wasn't for them, they had rare health complications, ran out of money, or transphobic laws forced them to detransition, and of that 65% more then half will go on to retransition within 5 years. Olson et al., 2022 found that 97.5% of kids who socially transition still identify at trans five years later. The Lancet Journal of child and adolescent Health, Oct 20 2022, found 98% of trans teens taking hrt were still continuing their treatment five years later. Skye Davies, Stephen McIntyre, Craig Rypma, 2019, "Detransition rates in a National UK Gender Identity Clinic, found that 0.47% of people who medically transition regret doing so.
That last one is WEIRD. Does he think that people are giving HRT to 6 yr olds???? Because that isn't happening. And yes, kids have been getting puberty blockers for precocious puberty since at least the 1980s. In the late 90s/early 00s, I worked for a paediatric endocrinologist who had several patients with precocious puberty who were treated with puberty blockers. This was standard treatment. Does that guy think it's okay for a 3 year old girl to be starting puberty???
so the kids has hormone blockers so then they do hrt while they reach puberty, right? If that's the case, it makes sense why so many people get confused how trans kids work
I love how some of these people look at trans people and go "you guys got the minimum effort you guys are fully accepted and should shut up already". Like it is normal to have legislation out there to erase your existence, for people forming organizations to hate you, to feel uncomfortable using basic facilities in person, to have to weigh your identity against how difficult things are being out and most importantly face the daily possibility of being killed. That these are just "life" and things people deal with. That we should be happy with what? Nothing? Nothing because they are all mad about like any little thing we get including the right to the basic humanization of language including using our names and pronouns. Things other people take for granted.
Also still mad. The most medically invasive thing we suggest for kids is puberty blockers which are reversible other than that when we talk about trans kids we are talking social transition and like people are purposefully conflating the two. Like oh no Suzy wants to wear a dress and play on the girl's volleyball team and is upset that she gets misgendered. This is somehow medically irreversible.
5:24 “separating the art from the artist” is for artists who are dead and not making money from continued dissemination of their work, that they can then use to expand their platform from which they spew misinformation that actively harms people
... Appalling actually that it always comes down to the simple fact that many people consider themselves superior and naturally deserving more rights, ease and/ or wealth than their targeted groups...
The thing is that it's not just gender that's a spectrum, sex is too. science doesn't deal in binaries. there are intersex people and people with different chromosomes and hormone levels and sex characteristics; *it is not, and has never been, a binary system.* we package these characteristics into the boxes of "male" and "female" but really, there are a thousand things in-between, and gender has nothing to do with any of them. i've heard people say before that intersex people are a miniscule percentage of the population and you shouldn't judge based on outliers, but they're roughly about as common as redheads, and we don't sit around saying the only natural hair colors are brown, blond, and black. you can argue semantics on tiktok all day long but the truth of it is that nothing, no matter how small or how cosmic, will *ever* fully fit into the labels we give them, because the world wasn't meant for that.
"If gender is a spectrum, why do we have to try to change anything? Why can't you just be you?" Because while gender is a spectrum, not all gender identities are. They are typically a specific space on that spectrum, and in order to 'be me', I would have to change things, because the body I was born in does not represent the 'me' I feel I am. Gender being a spectrum does not mean any particular person would feel comfortable on any point in that spectrum or presenting like it; for me personally, although I am nonbinary, I am also a demiboy, and would not be comfortable or identify with presenting anywhere on the feminine side of the spectrum. Something being fluid / flexible =/= inherently devoid of meaning or definition.
This summer my family and I are travelling to Great Britain (London to be exact). And against my wishes, they (mostly my mother) wants to visit the Harry Potter museum. I’m just going to wait outside the museum and probably chant something among the lines of “JK Rowling is evil”
There are so many things I'd want to see if I could go to London. Harry Potter world wouldn't even occur to me, and the author's transphobia cements that. Have a great trip otherwise!
Fair warning from a Londoner (and maybe a helpful argument to make): if she's thinking of the Studio Tour, that place is right out on the fringes of the city and is a nightmare to get to, especially from the city centre. The transport connection is unreliable, taxis are REALLY expensive, and London isn't a fun city to drive in. If you can suggest Platform 9 and 3/4 and the shop at King's Cross station as a better alternative, it might be worth a try. It's more accessible, and also has the added bonus of being way easier to avoid going into. Good luck on your trip here either way, though - I hope the other parts of it are good!
I am a trans woman and I have taken HRT for more than 13 years. Ok it's not 20 years like the person in one of the video, but it's a long time anyway. I have never regretted transitionning, not even once. This person needs to understand that her bad experience doesn't mean transition is bad. I was a teenager when I started transitionning and I would have greatly benefited from puberty blocker, but they weren't accessible in my time. Yes, teenagers can know if they are trans or not. Yes, I was already in touch with a psychiatrist and an endocrinologist that allowed me to start hormones as soon as I turned 18 (the legal age at the time in my country, I don't know about nowadays). And I have never regretted it. Also the person said that nowadays society has accepted trans people. Well I don't know about USA (I mean I see the news, it looks awful...), but I can say for France that it is totally wrong. People were much more acceptant when I started, in the early 2010. They were curious, clumsy, but generally well-meaning. There was transphobia, of course, and I faced it on some occasion, but it is much, much worse nowadays. Now it has become a political issue, and people have a political opinion on it, regardless of what the science says, regardless of what trans people live and experience. People who have never seen a trans person have an opinion on our right to exist. For like 10 years, I didn't feel the need to say that I'm trans, to talk to other trans people and so on. Now, the evolution of society on trans issues scares me so much that I feel the need to go to trans group and exchance with other trans people. In the 2010, it was much more easier. It was harder on a medical perspective, but easier on a societal perspective, really.
Love from your Christian Non-Binary friend! 💚 Latest break through in my Church was the Pastor now uses some gender neutral pronouns, and I'm going to be able to chat to Bible Study leaders about how to be respectful and understanding of LGBTQIA+ identities!
@@SeaBreeze-w9999 Genesis 1:5,10. By just quoting sections like this, you'll see that it is possible to argue that God didn't make the shoreline, nor do dawn and dusk exist. God made me, and I am non binary. God loves me, and I love Him. James 3:7-9 God bless!
My sons both have trans female friends and these TikTok’s are infuriating. Trans folks are no different than Cis folks, everyone is just trying to live their best happiest life.
hi, trans person here who uses it/its/itself pronouns. i get there are people who hate those pronouns, but i know a handful of trans people who also use it/its. it's gross for people to use those pronouns to devalue the humanity of anyone
i feel like there’s a very different vibe when someone is being referred to as “it” because that’s its/one of its preferred pronouns and when someone is being referred to as “it” in an attempt to dehumanize/insult/etc.
@@SnowDragon_2204 yee, that's what I referred to at the end. I just noticed Jamie (second video mentioning transphobes calling trans people it) feels uncomfy. I completely understand, I just think he should also know that people use it/its by choice or no pronouns at all
@@theultimatenerd9825 I thought I had replied already, but here are some examples. "this is my friend, its name is ___" "it likes ___ & ___" "it said so itself"
In case anyone wants to know an easy example of "cis" outside gender issues: high school organic chem class and 8th grade bio. Trans and cis fats. Olive oil is cis, beef tallow is trans.
