Shocking, Phoenix PD found their officer was not at fault, who'd have guessed! How about the FBI step in and do a real investigation, there are too many unanswered questions and this roided out tattooed clown should be out of the police and facing charges.
@Jack Stucki FBI director did state in a congressional hearing last year that right wing terrorist groups are a greater threat to America than ISIS/Al Qeida. Given we're seeing increasing support for those ideologies within police and military personnel I'd say he was 100% correct.
In CA we lost a family of three (one a baby) who went on a long hike in heat with water. All three were found dead. TOO hot not enough water, sunstroke.
You are right. If your not on the mountains no later then 5:30am mountain time on days when we’re expecting extreme heat then you have no business hiking. I’m an experienced hiker and I would never go hiking that late in the morning in that heat.
Why on earth would you leave a women your dating an recently met to take on a trail an let her leave on her own to get down.. That’s insane from the policeman!!
If you go somewhere with a 31 year old man, and the two of you split up at some point, are you now 100% to blame for everything that happens to him while you are separated from each other?
Who in the hell would go hiking at that early in the morning or at any time hiking without any water!! This sounds really fishy, he should have went back down with her .
There are two kinds of people when it comes to sharing an experience, one who takes you skiing and keeps you on the bunny hills, and the other who takes you to the top on pushes you off the double black diamond run.
Too much coincidence they both got lost in same area at supposedly diff times. If that’s the case there has to be a bunch of lost hikers just roaming around those mountain homes.
Hi,.. from this recent report it looks like my original theory of Dizdar going down the Cholla trail and taking an Uber back was wrong. Now they have video footage of Dizdar 4 houses away from where Angela Tramonte was found ? She died 4 houses away from where he is seen and They both got lost going down the same break in the fence ? This looks like a cover-up !
She went thru the fence to a house she could see. Thats how he “got lost” she made bad decisions we cant blame her for but he went looking for her. He tried to go w her back down after telling her she was there only a few steps but she insisted.
@@KarinaTheDreama , hi.. how could he have possibly known that she didn't make it to the parking lot 🤔 and decided to go towards the nearby houses unless he "Told her to go there in the 1st place .." That would make him a liar and prove that he was trying to cover-up his actions.
@@leroygrayjr.2957 She went around the fence at the Echo Saddle. He dropped into the neighborhood at the 'echo canyon bowl'. It's easy to get off trail where he did especially if he went down the north facing side, which a lot of people do.
@@olliehopnoodle4628 ,.. I'm not buying it. His actions were clearly negligent.. She was his guest., had never walked up that mountain before, didn't have any water and nobody knows what he told her about the echo trail. He is guilty of her death regardless of if he got lost going back down or not.
If we make this more public, I’m pretty sure the investigation will start again. Let’s speak out against this injustice and let’s not let the Phoenix PD rest without giving us the truth and hold that cop accountable!
Hello.. What I don't understand? Is if he's an experience hiker ? No I mean the cop knows how hot Arizona can get? Why in the heck didn't he suggest bringing water?! I honestly think there's something more to this story then meets the eye??! A sad shame💔💔💔💔😢 So young and beautiful.. My heart goes out to her friends and family. Oh I have been in the hospital in the past, due to dehydration? I became lethargic and when I was being released or lol whatever its called? My mom was with me. I leaned over to put my shoes on and fell, mum caught me and I ended up staying for 1 week at the hospital because there was an infection in my brain caused from dehydration. And this was just from being over worked and dehydrated from Home??!! We had A.C. I wasn't drinking enough water is why?!! So Angila ? Well she was fit. I'm wondering if she didn't have enough water in her system before meeting this guy? that shouldn't have ever let her climb down alone😭😭💔😢Very sad. I hope they don't give up on this case?!🙏🙏 Dear child...
@@KarinaTheDreama They're both idiots for setting off on a hike without water. If he's a jerk for leaving her to make her own way back, then you'll also think someone who jumps a light and kills a pedestrian is no more than a jerk. In most countries he would be charged with something like criminal negligence or involuntary manslaughter.
@@annatanneberger1 She was an adult! She was controlled by buckles within a vessel she didn’t have control of. She insisted that he go to top w out her. He had no way of knowing she was not showing signs nor telling him she felt like collapsing or etc. he was not a doctor that she was being treated for things in his care. She should’ve known the circumstances & risk she was undergoing the same as others there from out of state. She should’ve followed the signs. ITS NO WAY NOT INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER NOR NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE. I feel awful for her & her family & yeah I don’t appreciate the guy either but if u come to Arizona, u can’t sue whomever is w u bcuz the heat & sun were out & u didn’t bring water or sun hat .
Angela's family and friends hired an investigator to find the truth. This was so negligent on the officer's part, as an officer, a hiker and a thoughtful man. Wonder if they drank the night before and she was extra dehydrated and so more disorientated. So cool the fence is painted same as the rocks and soil of area.
She asked him to get a pic for her site they argued she insisted. She left w out him. He looked for her. He called for help. He kept looking for her. She shouldve asked another hiker to help her. Its very sad. I feel bad for her. U cant blame him he didnt desert her. As much as i cant stand him myself its not his fault.
I wish we could arrest the cop for his lack of care towards the female.. but we cannot. It wasn't his fault EXACTLY. They're adults.. and although she sisn't look entirely capable of even hiking half way.. she was so slender and without physical resources to actually survive that kind of hike.. she pushed herself too far. Now, back in the 80's, in my day, these kind of things weren't prosecuted, because they were *accidents*. There would be signs and follow up, so people didn't risk it all. Maybe we need to return to that ethic.. and that cop should be held accountable, in some way, though. Because he didn't care about her, and basically abandoned her to a life threatening situation of which she lost her life. SOMETHING needs to be addressed.. in that man's life.
The trail head has signs warning of the danger. These include specifics about hiking in the heat and bringing water. At about the 1/5th point of the trail there is another placard with warnings and a story of a young man who died.
I wonder if she ingested any type of food, drink or supplement, before the hike, which would have increased her body heat during the hike? 🙄 Besides, anyone can see, the likelihood she'd be capable of finding her way back alone is NO BRAINER! HE WAS NEGLIGENT IN ENSURING HER SAFETY? 🤔
Social media makes the harsh reality of the world look easy and photographic. Obviously she was enticed by the 3 million "influencers" who promoted a simple hike up Camelback Mountain located in the Arizona desert IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER!! She wasn't the brightest lightbulb.....
@@olliehopnoodle4628 yes, mostly different trails towards the bottom but they ALL leave you at the parking lot & u can see the parking from heading back down after midway. Her going rogue off trail through that fence was something we all know better to do. I cant understand why she did not ask for help. None of this gives reason to hold the jerk to blame liable for her choices, she wasnt a child. Water is basic. Paying attention is basic especially when there really is only ONE trail to the top returning the same way. She didnt get lost - she knew she was doing off the trail to that home. She may have been seeking this rescue for ulterior motive as well- quite possibly. Ppl have bias against the guy & ya he’s a jerk but that ALSO was her choice!
@@KarinaTheDreama There are two trails from the trailhead. The Echo trail and the other one, which name I cannot recall, basically crosses the helipad and circles around to the Ramada. On the Echo trail the parking lot is not visible until you get to Echo Saddle. I agree it was a jerk move to separate, I would not have let her take off on her own but I don't believe that makes him legally responsible for her death. A lot of bad decisions were made that day. There are several warning signs. There is also a water vending machine at the trail head so they had a chance to get water there.
Well, about 20 feet from the sign discussed in the video is another sign that specifically warns of the dangers of hiking the trail in the heat and without water. Also, the trail sign matches the look and color of the other 36 poles that have the same sticker.
I think the expression 'Almost to the top' is inaccurate or misleading. They were only about two thirds the way up and probably another 20 minutes or so from the top. Most of the numbered poles have a location sticker on them that includes distance and altitude travelled. I'll take a look when I hike it tomorrow.
@@cesarcueto1995 I took a pic of pole 27 today. Most of the numbered poles have a sticker on them that includes distance and elevation traveled. Pole 27 is .93 miles from the trail head. The total distance of the trail to the top, one way 1.23 miles. There as still .3 miles left to the top. They were about 3/4 of the way to the top. Elevation wise they had gone about 700 feet in elevation with about 650 feet in elevation to go.
Actually once they compared the other hiker’s pic incidentally capturing the last photo of her, the cactus tells us they were only about 12 “steps” away from the top. She didn’t see it bcuz it turns. The Arizona Sun in the Summer Heat of this state? Im from here. It is nothing to mess with. U wouldn’t find me there at anytime in the summer unless I was superwoman & it was 6am. The hike goes at a steep incline the entire way. U are climbing for almost half of it. U cant feel oxygen going into your lungs nor that there is any in the air. Wear a ventilated sun hat, frozen hanky, hydrate well before & bring water & juice or sport drink as well & go early, dont bring a dog! Dont stop for pics. Stay focused dont talk, breathe.
I just wish that people could take responsibility for themselves. An adult should know that on a very hot day you need to take water with you if you go on a hike. Everyone blaming the cop but shouldn’t the young woman have known that you need water when it’s hot out? What was stopping her from going to the store, before the hike, and buying some water to take with her? I don’t understand how this happens when an adult should have this simple knowledge. It’s hot….bring water. No? Yes?
I really do not see anything suspicious as far as intent or knowing somehow that she was going to die. Normally, I’d say he was a jerk & careless& cold blooded. Not a gentlemen for a cop & a 1 st date. BUT- SHE ASKED HIM TO HO TO TOP TO GET PICS FOR HER SOCIAL MEDIA to make it like she got to the top etc I assume. That’s what he did. He had probably tried talking her into the close by top of the mountain is why ppl say they were arguing. The fact he ended up in the houses tells me she probably called him maybe or he tried to take shortcut to car. 4 homes away how was he supposed to know which house she ended up at??? Btw, 4 houses in thst exclusive neighborhood which I know is(btw!) is more like 1/2 mile! These are double-digit-million-dollar homes w private entrances. I don’t think there is any liability on this guy. He made a bad decision even he did what she wanted him to w getting pics. Final story. I went on a date w a cop ONCE unfortunately, the guy ended up being a total idiot rude ego-maniac jerk. I’m sure there’s good ones but truthfully they’re probably engaged or newly married already!
You never leave someone on the trail. It is like driving on the wrong side of the highway and being surprised something bad happens. You should be surprised if nothing bad happens.
And it doesn't matter what she asked him to do. A person going into heat exhaustion is irrational. I remember a friend arguing and pushing us away as we tried to cool her by pouring water over her head. She was worried about her hairstyle - she was on the verge of collapse! Afterwards we could laugh and she didn't remember fighting us off.
Who even hikes in 100 degree weather? No thanks... but then not to bring water in that kind of heat?... Sounds sketchy. Also what kind of person leaves their date who just arrived the day before to go down by herself?
They could have had an argument and she told him go F off. Who knows. If some guy got me angry, I would walk miles in the heat just to be away from him.
Why didn’t she make the decision to stop and buy water before the hike? Everyone makes her out to be a child who needed to be chaperoned. I don’t understand all this. If someone asks me to go hiking….I’m preparing for it. Water is something that I’m taking with me. Why she didn’t bring water….we’ll never know. Why he was responsible for telling her when to drink water….we’ll never know. I would have stopped first and bought some water before the hike…..and i never would have hiked up that far.
She should have asked any other hiker for help. If I was very desperate I would ask to drink from anyone's water..It seems mind blowing that anyone would step out into THE MOUNTAINS without a droplet of water... the police officer should be more prepared since he's from here. Shame on him.
@❤❤Maria Cruz aka RaRa❤❤ so they were separated....what's your point? The victim role suits ya, huh? Men have had enough. That's why so cat food is out of stock. Enjoy the world men built😊
Yes! I would have stopped at a gas station Or convenience store to purchase water BEFORE the hike. Why didn’t she do this? Or was it his responsibility to tell her when to drink? She made a bad decision by not bringing water unless someone can prove that he withheld water from her. She’s an adult and should have known to bring water. 🙄
@@April-sp8un where you there? Did you hike with them? The ME said she did it to herself. Men aren't always the culprit when a woman makes a stupid decision.
This is just a tragic accident. Everyone is mad because the officer didn’t escort her down, but maybe she didn’t him to escort her down. Perhaps, she just wanted to be left alone for the walk back down. There were enough people on that mountain that day to know that she was not forced up there. This was her decision to make that hike with or without water. She was an adult.
Lots of tragic accidents on the motor way. Still people get charged with negligence. I live against a mountain. You always take responsibility for the people who set off with you. Especially visitors and people you've only just met. Check they've got water and appropriate gear (hat, sunscreen, rain jacket, gloves, depending on weather). Never split the party, unless both parts have at least one experienced hiker who knows the route.
She was an adult and should have known how to take care of herself. Also, they could have had an argument……who knows. If you don’t know to drink lots of water while hiking, then she should not have been out there. It’s sad but she was an adult.
That police officer is responsible for her dead! How will you take someone that you know is not from here hiking with out water and then leave her alone??? Put him in jail!
No, he’s not responsible for her death. He didn’t drag her up there. She went in her own accord and never brought any water with her and it was hot out. As you going to make that guy (cop) responsible for something she, as an adult, should have taken care of and known about. You need to drink water when it’s hot out. I would have stopped at a store first and purchased some water to bring with me. Why didn’t she do that? Or he should have thought of that? She was an adult on an adult vacation by herself and she had no idea that you need to drink water when it’s hot outside. Why didn’t she know this? She knew how to purchase plane tickets and such but she didn’t know that you have to drink water if you’re hiking in the extreme heat? Is that what we’re to believe? I feel bad about what happened to her but I would have stopped and purchased some water before the hike. Why didn’t she do that?
Um really disappointed at the hostility in the comments. Why dont u have an open logical mind and watch this record of what happened. Its actually scary that its so unfair towards him. I agree he is a jerk.
