Sadako's Buffs Are Nice... 

Let's talk about new sadako! She is way better than in her original release and post PTB nerf, but there is still something lacking about her in the chase department as well as how easy it is to counter Sadako as a survivor. It feels like the devs don't want to introduce complex killers because survivors will have no idea how to counter them, so instead they make it super easy for players to find out in a match (And they still don't know)

The biggest issue with sadako is that, at her core, she's an m1 killer with no anti-loop and this makes balancing her hard. She's basically pinhead (both having passive slowdown) without an anti-loop

Sadako getting changed again for the 147th time in 2026:

3:28 that was a nice one lol

I don't know, didn't played her after the changes but i will always say that she needs an anti-loop and the best idea is too make her go through pallets, windows and why not, the breakable walls cause fuck'em. It's too strong? Make her slower while going through them, boom, at least B tier

idk why holding a tape doesn't give Condemn like it did in her first version. That design was perfectly fine and gave a good risk/reward to grabbing tapes and turning off TVs. But BHVR seems determined to throw the baby out with the bathwater whenever they rework Sadako.

I recommend they give her back stacks when she hits survivors holding tapes. It won’t make the tapes disappear, but it still punishes survivors for holding tapes all match.

Honestly with what I’ve played,I think she’s pretty good right now. You’ll lose gens pretty quickly early on with her but the more you stack condemn on survivors the more slowdown you will begin to generate. Her stealth and map mobility makes her excel at hit and run. And while she is M1 killer she has a number of tricks that can win her quite a few chases. For starters being demanifested can let you avoid a number of pallet stuns. Time it write, you can manifest right in front of a survivor camping a pallet and hit them as the pallet goes down. Pair it with brutal strength and you can smash three pallets surprisingly quickly. And around short loops you can easily circle around and get a hit in. Raiko watch lets you mindgame fairly well around certain loops. And bloody fingernails provides a *massive* speed boost that can let you finish chases surprisingly fast and even keep up with people running speed burst. As long as you maintain momentum you can win matches pretty consistently with her. I’d say she’s a solid B at this point.

I think her lullaby while demanifested is a bit of a joke. Like how are you using your stealth ability and have a sound cue that reveals your location from as far as 24 meters. That’s pretty ridiculous imo. It’s actually an issue with Dredge too with it being way too loud especially while in nightfall. I would definitely like it to be completely removed, although I don’t think it’ll happen so at least cut the range in half. Maybe make both the newspaper and Reiko’s watch add-ons base-kit to further increase her chasing power. One thing that I also like is maybe making her projection sound cue be heard in a much smaller range if a survivor has 3 or more condemn stacks. Maybe even completely silence her manifestation/demanifestation chimes for the same requirements. I think that would be dope. The cd on the TVs after survivors turn them off is also a bit too long I think, reducing it by around 10 seconds would be nice. Also revert the tape retrieval time thing, that chnage was completely unnecessary. Some of Sadako’s add-ons should definitely be looked on, like her Iridescent tape is really not it.

I saw that 3:28, real smooth!

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3:32 what a transition 👏👏👏

Honestly her chases are kinda long that is why i personally use the blue telephone when i demanifted so I can apply the hindered status effect. It makes dealing with loops easier or making mind games on decebt pallets decently fun imo

I’ve always said that when demanifested she should be like og Freddy and fully invisible (maybe with Audio but only in line of sight) and then 5 or so seconds after manifesting she has the “phasing” effect Because her power right now is pretty much spirit passive Make it so tv can not be turned off but you can interact with the tv so you can limit which tv give condemned (make it so condemned isn’t a problem but also allows her power to actually have a use) Make it so you can only grab a tape when at a certain amount of stacks meaning that it will build more pressure as you would be at a higher amount when travelling to your tv Phase through pallet and windows then demanifested Spawns a well at a random location in the map that is only visible at 7 stacks you can enter the well that will permeantly remove your stack but the killer always knows where you are when demanifested Idk just some idea she deserves to have more in her kit (Don’t view this as me trying to make her op it’s just some idea that may encourage fan buffs)

My main problem with her current version is there's 0 risk to holding a CURSED video tape. There's no strategic decision to make on the part of the survivors, they should take a tape 100% of the time. It feels very weird that you're safer with a tape when, in terms of lore, that's the opposite of how it should be.

All she needs is for tapes to build passive condemned, remove the max stack lock in on hook limit or at least increase it to 5, and increase the time it takes to interact with a tv to at least 2 seconds so survivors cant just do it mid chase literally for free. Also it would be nice if she was given something else to help in chase while being demanifested like maybe extra movement speed of like 5 percent and or the ability to vault obstacles alot quicker by like maybe 30 percent but that would optional.

Maybe just add the thing if survivor holds the tape too much (30s) without inserting it in the tv he starts to obtain stacks with a speed of 1 stack each 20 seconds? And add also that 20% of the survivor’s total condemn will be transferred to random survivor after inserting the tape? I think it would a fair exchange to be immune against attack-condemn and hook-condemn while holding a tape.

I would like it if she had some effects when your condemned meter gets higher, so she relies less on early game pressure. Stuff like doctor hallucinations, maybe she insta downs instead of insta killing someone but it requires fewer stacks of condemned, being able to directly teleport to someone like pinhead when you got the box, or getting hooked in tv's like pyramid head cages, i cant remember if she crawls in the movies but do something with that if she does. (Prolly thinking of the grudge tbh) All stuff to make her games more fast-paced instead of condemned farming.

Honestly i liked the direction they went in with the Demanifested pallett ignoring buff. They should probably just give her faster vaulting or movement speed whilst demanifested to actually give it a point besides mind games and teleporting. Hell, they could even give her more unique effects like better blood pool or scratch mark tracking to make Demanifesting actually a good and useful tool to use.

People didn't believe me when i said that her counterplay is the easiest it has ever been and that she only seems strong rn due to survivors not knowing the counterplay yet. I hope this video makes those people understand the issue.

I think they should make it so if your holding a tape and doing a conspicuous action you slowly build condemed so the strat of just grabbing tapes isn’t as viable

I have an idea that would make her anti loop stronger at low condemn and weaker at high condemn. When Sadako chases a survivor her intermittent invisiblity duration changes based on the number of stacks a survivor has When A survivor has zero stacks the duration is longer When a survivor has full stacks the duration is short I felt like it would be moderately easy to implement, Circumvent the chief issues of having a strong chase with a slowdown and would add a layer to sadako and encourage multiple play styles. It also increases interactivity with her ability. Sure you can take the tape and keep your stacks low but sadako is now more invisible and thus harder to loop . Vs the risk of dying to condemn but being able to see her properly.

I feel if she’s demanifested then she should be able to go through wall or at least pallets just to make it more fun, and I don’t care if it’s broken, nurse is still broken since day one

Bro is trying to become a fog whisperer 😂

It’s so confusing to play this character casually they’re changing them like every other month

i think the lullaby should be smaller and the tape animation should go back to 2 seconds

I feel making more of her addons base kit is the best thing to do as they made nail and watch base kit and she feels amazing so by that logic more addons for base would be the best way to go. imo telephone and the new ring drawing for basekit, these two would both give her more Anti loop capabilities in her powers base and also a punishment for people that allow themselves to get hooked with a tape. The add-ons themselves would probably have to be reworked the purple could just be making the hindered effect better similar to skull merchants or clowns and ring drawing could be reworked to being another version of yoichi fishing net being an add-on that punishes a Survivor for allowing themselves to have too many stacks.

I remember seeing PixelBush suggest back when the anniversary was live to give Sadako a version of event killer effect where you could break a pallet without kicking it, and honestly with the buffs she got recently I don't see why this wouldn't work. Either give her that, or let her walk through breakable walls, downed pallets, and vaults. She needs to be able to do SOMETHING in chase other than just going invisible every now and then. It's not enough.

I think if they want to buff her in the chase department, the best thing would be to let her swing while demanifested but put it on a cooldown like chucky

I think they should be bring back the old passive condem mechanic when you hold a tape you build up comdem stack, but way less stronger, something like 1 condem stack for 60-45 sec so atleast it punish them a bit and if its not strong enough buff it. because her biggest probleme is that nothing punish survivor for picking up tape except the ring drawing add-ons.

My Final Tweaker to her are 1. 2s Tape Insetion 2. No TV auras since you can't mindgame in chase anymore they just see where you TP too 3. Passive Condemn so people who just turn off TVs right away get most punished by holding it for that whole 70 seconds Oh also make her Iri add on the brown meme add on, and give Iri tape something actually useful! It's literally a pink add on that does what plagues brown meme add on does. Removes part of the power, but gives a slightly ok buff. I want Pink addons to actually be worth buying.

Imo, all Sadako needs to improve her chase is to make reiko's watch and old newspaper base kit and give them new effects. They increased her invisibility while demanifested and in the post manifestation state. Those two add-ons make her invisibility viable to use in chase, and making them basekit would allow her to use other add-ons. Sadako has a decent selection of add-ons, though a few could use changing to be more usable. As for Tapes, I'm alright with them only taking 1 second to take and put back, for now at least as ppl are learning to play against her. However, as people learn to counter her power, that 1 second may prove too short. Or, maybe it won't. Time will tell. Regardless, I still think using a tape should have a downside basekit. My idea was that while holding a tape, and bonuses to action speeds a survivor has are negated. So, no prove, overzealous, resilience, hope, endurance, or haste. I know this sounds strong, but Sadako is an m1 killer that has better mind games than most with her invisibility. And if we keep that 1 second tape return, then if Sadako misplays, the survivor can return their tape and cleanse stacks. Conversely, if the survivor misplays despite the 1 second tape return action, the Sadako gets the down and can lock in stacks.

Before this nerf she was my main but now she is my 3rd main, like everyone I got tired of figuring out and changing the play style

I'm very new to the game and haven't quite learned all the in and outs of how it's balanced, but I'm wondering: If what's holing her back is 1. a vulnerability to being looped for a while and 2. that players who know her can easily avoid building much condemned outside of her control, why not introduce that survivors build condemned *while* being chased? something like a 1/4th stack of condemned for every cumulative X seconds being chased would certainly help her apply pressure at will, right?

The preview is me after eating sushi/pizza/burger

i like how u edited it so it changed maps when u teleported to a tv

I think it would be cool if she could “vault” breakable walls and pallets while de-manifested

2021: So anyway we nerfed the pig 2024: So anyway we buffed the Onryo

Story of this poor girl's life

I think it’s more of a problem that the killers with chase tools will always be better then those without them because survivors have so much to extend chases with their exhaustion perks like sprint burst and lithe while killers without a chase power only have bloodlust

Dead dawg turned into plauges map 😂

I think they should keep the destroying tape on normal hit. That way, survivor would get punished if the hold onto the tape for too long

Hens and otz will ask bhvr to nerf her

They should've just kept her as she was in the ptb. Potentially losing condemned stacks by hooking still makes tunneling 1 person and ignoring hooks the optimal strategy.

I hope they will buff Pig like Sadako 🙏

I just wanna throw this out there. Sadako's counterplay has, for the most part, remained the same since she was released. If the Survivors STILL don't know how to counter her 2 years into her release, they're never going too.

she was perfect when she came out, but ppl cried at the slug strategy too much ( they went against that strategy once in 789 matches )

And sadako is the best example of why mmr sucks because the more you plan the worse it gets high fun at the start then the more you win it gets more even(witch is fair)then you still get a increase to mmr then you hit a brick wall and get stuck faceing people who know how to counter you and as sadako you may as well sit in basement with rancor and hope they cant help but flashlight you over and over as thats about the only way thats going to be a fun match

In my opinion, the 7.5.0 patch was _mostly_ a failure that took many things in the wrong direction or implemented them poorly. Sadako changes were nice, they got even better with the following changes after feedback. Hillbilly finally received some love after years and, despite a few add-ons tweaks that were added, the result is almost perfect. The STBFL "nerf" was horrible and incentivizes tunnelling while reducing it's chase potential and synergy with weaker Killers (ya know, the ones that used it because Blight & Nurse can't really use it well? Those that used it to compensate for their weak chase but had a way to not tunnel with M2. Now the Obsession will be entirely ignored and the perk is mostly just good when tunnelling, especially if it's the Obsession that goes for the save). Instead they should revert the nerf entirely and only make the perk deactivate when too close to a hooked Survivor and not work on basekit BT. The new gen system is _horrible_ in it's current form. While the idea is sound it doesn't really do much else than remove 1-hour games and make nearly every regression perk and non-regression kick perks a liability (as even though you don't want to 3-gen, too many regression events and you will end up with one of the last gens that almost blocked, making the endgame more difficult despite the Killer's intention, effectively punishing them for using certain perks or simply defending gens that Survivors keep coming back to). The S-tier Killers don,t care but _yet again_ it reduces perk variety and hurts weaker/M1 Killers much more. The system should only kick-in (heh) when there's one gen left (maybe two since map generation can be nasty with gen spawns). The FOV slider was a _massive_ W and, except a few issues with certain powers, is a fine accessibility option.

First(I love your videos dude)

The nerfs don't stop blight nothing can he will hit survivors like a bullet train on steroids

Wow before this buff she was F- and now she got promotion to F- nothing has changed xD

You are a dead by daylight youtuber without a twitch channel, that's very strange in 2024 when every dead by daylight youtubers always have a twitch channel where they stream

A small and simple change, I think would make Sadako pretty good once again. When demanifested, she can walk through pallets. Simple anti-loop but wouldnt work on every loop, but enough so that itd be enough for survivors to have to think twice before dropping a pallet

God I hope there's nothing they can do to make that killer I hate her guts she's too freaking annoying

She was fine after the first rework. Should have just left her alone

I feel like one way to fix her stealth mechanic would be to make her completely silent when survivors are not holding a tape and reintroduce passive condemnation. Upon grabbing a tape from a tv, survivors then can hear her “lullaby”. This will make it so survivors are completely oblivious to her location while demanifested and grabbing tapes becomes more of a risk for information.

Sprint burst, predrop and turning TV off makes her the worst killer in the game. Survivors have 100% control over her power.

Glad that BHVR tweaked her. I'm enjoying Onryo again ❤ Although the only thing she needs is a bit more lethality. Not only should the lullaby be removed, but as many people suggest, manifesting through pallets/breakable walls would be quite unique. Or perhaps making her vault/break things faster when a survivor is holding a tape, since hooking survivors as Sadako is really important to keep up with the condemn. Another idea that comes to mind is that every 2 stacks, survivors get a random status effect like blindness, obliviousness, haste, or hinder. Just something to make her more effective in chase, and she'd be in a perfect spot in my opinion.

They need to have a small type of global condemned and get rid of survivors being able to see tvs

she does not need more lol.

i dont want her to be another boring m1 killer that just slugs or camps and this is just a weaker sluggy version of her

I think she is fine. Not every character can be A or S tier and she can easily destroy solo players. Maybe her weakness is looping and friend teams, but every killer has to have weaknesses. She has build in slowdown (and teleport) and people who like it can play her. If they want good chase killer, they should play killer like blight. Sadako shouldn't be everything, she is okay now. Pair her with looping perks and buff her based on her basekit weaknesses. That's how you play this game. She doesn't need slowdown as much, like blight doesn't need chase perks, or doctor doesn't need aura perks. They are different and that's how it should be

Nahh for a casual player she is plenty enough to go against and in no way is she on a comparable level to pig meaning she is a tier or two higher than pig.

Since it is stated that sadakos kit was heavily influenced by the number 7, they should make it so that after 7 minutes every survivor will be condemned, in return, sadako can teleport freely from tv to tv like how she is suppose to, in return, she loses the demanifestation ability cuz it has a lullaby and its useless, in return, she can become undetectable for a while like demo tp.whil survivors are on hooks/dying state, their condemn timers are paused For survivors, each tv has a tape and will reduce the timer by either 30 sec or 1 minute and the tv where the tape eas inserted will off for 1 minute or 30 secs as well, thus reducing the amount of tvs sadako cam teleport to at a time

Wild idea: give her back her condemn and let people have fun with the only killer in the game that plays differently in terms of objectives, playing curse instead of hooks... I have 0 interest playing her as yet another shitty M1 stealth killer, that's not what the character is about and that's not what her power is designed to do, so stop nerfing her because survivors can't play differently than rushing gens and looping.

As someone whose mained Sadako since i started playing DBD in 2022, she's definitely "better" than she was originally, but that's not saying much, as her power used to genuinely be so negligible that it may as well have not been there. And honestly, while I think her buffed state was too strong with far too much ability to decimate new players, these recent changes just make me sad. Its like BHVR has no idea of what to do with her, every element of her design is paradoxical. She's a stealth killer, who has no stealth because of a lullaby and the visual terror radius. She has instant lethality with condemned, which is heavily limited by the lock-down mechanic, and its quickly removed unlike even Pig. She has a chase power to avoid pallets, so everyone pre-drops and you end up eating more pallets. And her best aspect, her mobility with teleports, can just be shut down by any survivor who walks up to a TV and clicks "turn off tv". She just feels like she has absolutely nothing going for her, Wraith and Spirit having much better stealth, Pig and Myers having much more impactful potential instakills, Freddy and Dredge having better teleports... She isnt the absolute bottom of F tier she used to be... but she's at bottom of D at best at this point. It's Freddy all over again, come out as the bottom of F tier, get over-buffed to a problematic debatable S tier, and then get nerfed back into the ground right back to F tier. Ironically I've been having more fun playing Freddy than her lately.

They should just make her condemned work like Freddy or Pig, where it's a slow, passive buildup no matter the circumstances, that way they don't have to worry about how much Sadako can affect the timer through lock on or whether or not the survivors even have to use the tapes, it would be forced and controlled, the only thing they'd need to focus on is the rate condemned builds

How did sadako get 50 changes in the past year meanwhile twins who are twice the population remain a depressed slouched lady and a mutant toddler on crack? Yes I know they are more mechanically intense but the amount of attention sadako has gotten dwarfs the amount the twins get and yet she is still mediocre. At this point just give her a minigun and call it quits already

Nothing wrong with being C tier, some characters are made to be below average or average. Why does she need more exactly ?

I say all the survivor mains are nothing but complaining babies about anything to do with kil;ers I’m not trying to be mean Just pointing it out

dude, thank you for not downing that survivor that was trying to give up. ive been irritatedly commenting on dbd videos saying this for months- i wish killer players would stop taking the down when a survivor just randomly gives up cause it sucks for us. so if you dont down them they will have to sit there or DC and take the penalty. either way youll end up with the kill of course or i wouldnt suggest it, but i just want them to have to take the punishment for rage quitting on us and making the game worse.

I've played a bit of Sadako both pre and post 7.5.1, and honestly I think she's perfect. She doesn't have anti-loop, sure. And the moment Survivors get used to her gameplay again she'll become much weaker, of course. But anything new added to Sadako could just bloat her already "new-player-unfriendly" power and play patterns. And, besides, not every Killer *needs* to be A-tier; best in all situations. It's just unsistainable.

Nah I fucking hate facing onryos and then I suck playing as her

Her biggest issue is that there are no downsides for survivors to just grab a table whenever they’re not holding one

For me Pig is still D tier. Everything about her is very meh.

They should have just left her PTB alone and shed be practically perfect. That said she is in a really good place right now but they need to change the TV interaction time for survivors its absurdly fast like to the point they can just put tapes away right in your face during chase and you cant do anything about it. That and the lullaby are her biggest faults aside from the obvious no anti loop. The manifest speed helps at least

No she’s fine now. Stop changing her

Ok, but still don't care. Where is Freddy's rework?(

Bro she still has the second highest killrate in the game what are you talking about

Nah honestly, leave her alone. She was stupid annoying prior to the latest DLC update. She doesnt need to be back where she was where she is rn is as good as she has any right to be after all the dev time theyve spent buffing then nerfing over and over. Id rather they spend that time on something more unique and interesting. Besides that, Sadako has no obligation to be the next Nurse or Blight, she doesnt need anti loop on top of passive slowdown when she has a built in Judiths Tombstone with no downsides especially when it is so abuseable