Scuf Envision Pro Controller: More Cons Than I Thought! Review Pt. 2

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After getting more stick time with the new Envision and having some great conversations in the comment section; I've noticed a lot more missing with the $180 PC only Pro controller. Luckily I also have 2 new pro's to add to the list, and some alternatives to pick up if you don't like the Envision.
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@REMY.C. 8 месяцев назад

GG's for the 100k. Love the humor and the channel even if I'm a m&k for almost 30 years. Sorry I was always watching on my PC and was never subscribed so here's my humble contribution. +1 sub.

@Mark-mu4pj 8 месяцев назад

Congrats on 100k it's well deserved 🎉🎉

@philmack1221 8 месяцев назад

Congratulations on 100k brodie!

@SovietN1nja 8 месяцев назад

Regular potentiometer stick modules actually require calibration or pre-sorting too. All potentiometers have slightly different resistance values, that's why when you resolder new units you can still get stick drift if resistance values are slightly off compared to stock ones. So every pad is calibrated at the factory to their resistance values written to their firmware.

@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 8 месяцев назад

You can do this in windows.

@MitchEllison 8 месяцев назад

@@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Link to tutorial?

@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 8 месяцев назад

@@MitchEllison Gamer Heaven has one that covers it. It's under a "how to fix stick drift" but what it actually is, is their means to calibrate the controller.

@upurweight 8 месяцев назад

Played with mine for the first time yesterday and it really is a great game pad. I think the potential of this controller is much more than the common consumer would use. Setting macros and binding keyboard inputs is somthing I'm gonna test but my reflex pro is probably just fine lol Congrats on the 100k subs. I can say I always look forward to your content.

@schmierodeluxe8680 8 месяцев назад

did you have to get used to the paddles a lot

@upurweight 8 месяцев назад

@@schmierodeluxe8680 very easy to use

@chrisbrenner20 8 месяцев назад

I wish more companies would add stick tension like the Elite 2

@jasonboy9676 8 месяцев назад

The elite stick tension is bursting with stick drift.

@truek1ng7 8 месяцев назад

The stick tension makes stick drift worse, my scuf controller can be put at a way lower deadzone than my elite 2 without getting drift

@TL-in1lm 4 дня назад

Elite 2 is possibly the worst controller ever made. After owning 2 of them i confidently say that. With the worst stick drift possible in 4 months of use.

@mikeernst8374 8 месяцев назад

Have you run into the icue issue when every time you restart icue, a notification pops up and says "stored profiles do not match the hardware profiles"? I have tried everything and nothing stops this from happening.

@Ashes2Ashes 8 месяцев назад

Great video as always! Quick question: As a south paw, can you simply swap the thumbsticks in the software? Meaning aiming on left and movement on right.

@humilitysavestheworld118 Месяц назад

Did you do the 3 Scufs Vs. Each other? Great vid

@swenic 8 месяцев назад

Check warranty applicability or buy a soldering iron? Looking forward to the soon TM episode. xx

@cheezyjokester 8 месяцев назад

I have so many controllers and sometimes I get one and then am bummed out with how it operates or feels. Thank you for doing the leg work for me so I don't keep wasting money.

@kevincampos6394 2 месяца назад

Great video. Is there a control you recommend that is similar to this? Looking for a good pc control with 4 back paddles adjustable triggers like this does and if it has extra buttons i wouldnt mind it

@minty257 8 месяцев назад

Congratulations on the 100k🎉

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

Thank you minty

@Deginga 2 месяца назад

Can we please get an updated video on the Envision Pro? are they all still buggy after updates and turning into bricks? Thanks.

@CandarianGaming 8 месяцев назад

Subscribed. I'm hoping more controller developers see this video and make better decisions when making for PC :)

@grandmasteraj855 8 месяцев назад

Homie gave us a second edition. The dedication is unmatched

@PYR0TV_ 8 месяцев назад

Hey you were talking about HE sticks so as long this is new board is it possible to replace orginal stick for HE one with driver board? ( or there is no PCB and or HE stick for this controller)?

@Raullives 8 месяцев назад

great follow up video 3 questions I still had from your video were addressed here Thanks, last question I had was size? what is it bigger than a reflex?

@mr.charizard9232 6 месяцев назад

Gamer heaven, which do you think is a better controller overall? This one or the ps5 edge? I have the edge and love it but this envision looks awesome! I only play on PC btw

@kutty2007 8 месяцев назад

I can’t find any in stock. Any idea when they will restock?

@johanjotun1647 8 месяцев назад

Can you use the Envision's headphone jack while in wireless mode? the Sony controllers must be plugged in to use wired earbuds.

@olivefree88 8 месяцев назад

Congratulations on 100k 🎉🎉🎉

@misfitz_ggsitzgeno3330 6 месяцев назад

what would you prefer for fps games the reflex or the envision

@NotyceZ 8 месяцев назад

Hi man, I want to play Warzone 2 on controller( I'm a PC player) and I have a tough time picking a controller between powerA fusion pro 3 and scuf envision (standard edition), can you please give me an advice? Thanks, appreciate your vids.

@tdwpOH18 8 месяцев назад

Congrats on the 100k 🎉🎉🎉

@NupoNupsNupsie 8 месяцев назад

can u remap the back bottens to right stick command? like up, left, A,X?

@codytimmons276 8 месяцев назад

love the vids man. glad i caughtt this at uplaod haha

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

Thanks Cody, have a good day man

@codytimmons276 8 месяцев назад

hell yea. You too!@@GamerHeavenOfficial

@anthonypepito210 Месяц назад

Can you please do an updated review of the Scuf Envision Pro with the latest update of the icue software and firmware for the controller. Much appreciated! Thank you!

@EdoBeats 7 месяцев назад

Yo excited about the re-solder tutorial video to come

@Its_Echo_87 4 месяца назад

Where can I find the comparison of reflex PS5/Instinct Xbox/Envision Pro PC?

@zerograv1ty11 8 месяцев назад

I'm still having mapping issues with the g keys and back buttons. Another issue I'm having is the controller randomly stopping my aim and shoot button and passes it over to my mouse. So weird. I've reset the controller several times and uninstalled the program and reinstalled.

@Njdynasty15 2 месяца назад

Is there a controller that has the same remapping function. I would like to have keyboard keys mapped to my controller. Thanks

@davidpace1635 8 месяцев назад

How does it compare to elite series 2 putting aside PC only and no motion sense?

@Chrish1981 8 месяцев назад

great follow up video, I love everything about this gamepad, problems or not, I want one lol. I don't know if it's the look or how many extra buttons but i want it.

@InfamazDre 8 месяцев назад

My biggest issue is icue, I just started using signal rgb and if I open icue it messes everything up. It would be perfect if not for that reason

@lucasv4 7 месяцев назад

Can you bind a controller button and a macro to the same paddle?

@uptownvapor 8 месяцев назад

Thank You for the update Kevin, really like this controller but you're right Price Per Performance!!!!!!!!!

@IPaid4WinRAR 8 месяцев назад

Wanted to say thanks for the Full Mapping Support section. From what I saw on SCUF's website it wasn't actually clear on if you could map all of the buttons on the controller to whatever you want, and I actually got the impression that you could remap only the G buttons to keyboard keys. This vid clearly shows otherwise.

@nicklaubach6984 8 месяцев назад

What is your best xbox style gamepad for call of duty

@EpidemiK03 8 месяцев назад

Congrats on 100k subs. One thing I wish Scuf offered, especially on this model, is tension sticks. A thumbstick resistance option, akin to what evil & battle beaver offer.

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

Thanks man I appreciate that, increased thumb stick tension would be a fat win

@Adam-pk7go 7 месяцев назад

I believe they are looking to add more controller customization down the road, but just wanted ti go ahead and release the base model now. Maybe that just means cosmetics, but tension seems possible

@OmairArif 8 месяцев назад

@3:17 PDP actually just announced they are going to sell Hall Effect replacement modules for the Victrix in early 2024.

@iTwoWolves 8 месяцев назад

Congrats on 100k dude. Just a quick note that I think others have mentioned as well. Picked this bad boy up yesterday and iCue crashes a lot. Played for 2 hours and had 3 crashes with no notification other than being in a gunfight and suddenly my rear paddles stop working. And in 1 case my face buttons stopped working. My hope is they come out with a stabilization update soon. Other than that, this controller is great.

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

Thats super weird. Even if the app isn't open you should still have the onboard profile storage with all your rear button bindings (like how console controllers that dont use app allow you to keep profiles on the controller to switch on the fly). I will keep an eye and ear out for the issue you mentioned because that sounds frustrating as hell.

@iTwoWolves 8 месяцев назад

That's a good point. It's 100% possible that because I set it up in Mappings I'm doing something wrong. I will investigate further. @@GamerHeavenOfficial

@BrooklynSkateUSA 8 месяцев назад

Ive heard that there’s an iCUE update next week so hopefully that will help

@iTwoWolves 8 месяцев назад

Thanks@@BrooklynSkateUSA. So I am definitely to blame on this one as there is a hardware mapping setting as well as regular mapping (like keybinds to back paddles). That fixed most of my issues doing all hardware mapping. Look forward to the update though, that's great.

@KhyrisEidan 4 месяца назад

What's better than the Scuf with the PS layout? That's really good and budget friendly?

@Fireprotectiontech416 7 месяцев назад

The one issue if found with using the envision so far is the button mappings suddenly loose configuration and I have to open up the app and back out of a game for it to re configure. It’s very odd and only happens once in a blue moon but still is a glitch they need to sort out

@07GTStallion 8 месяцев назад

The way I see it this controller checks everybox and then some for a lot less than the PS4/5 or xbox variation FPS pro version controller that Scuf offers and has a destinct advantage with the programable buttons being able to be bind to key strokes and more. All the pros you mention are exactly why this controller is amazing and all the cones dont affect me. Im a PC only gamer and only play FPS titles. I dont care about gyro, I dont care about playing sony ps games on pc, in not concerned with stick drift potential. Scuf made this controller for a specific market and I think they knocked it out of the park.

@americasass3674 7 месяцев назад

Is there a way to change the dead zone shape like to a square or cross dead zone shape?

@chronicmayhem 7 месяцев назад

So does clicking L3 and R3 cause stick drift?

@JayNice11 7 месяцев назад

Do you think this controller is better than the ps5 and Series X scuf?

@tylerchasse1405 8 месяцев назад

Just saw that pdp is going to be releasing he modules for the victrix bfg pro sometime next year so something to look forward to

@Nycoorias 8 месяцев назад

On a slightly unrelated note, are you aware of the alpakka open source controller?

@I3B4oKpULBfUZtZL-pSFpg 8 месяцев назад

congrats on 100k I'm interested on it but just wondering does all those buttons detected as seperated in steam controller configurator?

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

No just in Ique program

@soccerchris05730 8 месяцев назад

Congrats on 100k! TBH, I just want an Elite series with 1 ms delay and less stick drift, had stick drift on all three of my elite 2's. The envision seems dope af though and I may choose it even if an Elite Series 3 drops. As a strictly PC player who hasn't tried either, not sure who has the edge ;] the dual sense edge or the envision but I'm super excited because it seems like companies are listening!

@jay5881 8 месяцев назад

Hypr released PS5 controllers with HE sticks. Mind doing a review? They also have the option to keep the rumble and speakers in the controller but mention that if you go for this option it will take longer to calibrate your controller.

@GBPyt 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for this update and congrats on 100k. You gotta review the new BIGBIG WON RAINBOW 2 PRO, seems like the only wireless 4 rear button under 90 dolllars and has trigger stops and just too many features to be this cheap! could it be?

@collintaylor7836 8 месяцев назад

Congrats on on 100k

@trentgraves7904 8 месяцев назад

Would love to see you compare this to the duel sense edge

@chasegombos114 8 месяцев назад

what would you recommend for the best controller for pc with hall effect sticks? no need for paddles/buttons but wouldnt mind them.

@OmairArif 8 месяцев назад

Well he said the Vader 3 Pro is his favorite controller, and that has hall effect sticks.

@ananon5771 8 месяцев назад

when it comes to gyro, another thing to mention is it allows for PC players on the controller to play FPS games that have no aim assist. in a game like CS2, many mainly consoles players would be unable to adapt to the accuracy of a mouse without it if it was ported, but gyro players can pop heads with no problem, I mean in the gyro config you said was the most common, the gyro is basically like using a mouse as a form of aim assist. as I said in the comments of the last video, Solarlight was able to frag out in a TF2 tournament with gyro (though his set-up was more advanced than average, using tools like flick-stick and gyro-ratcheting to amp gyro to be even better), which is insane compared to console pros that would feel totally outgunned in even a console fps without aim assist. Especially cause tf2 is almost as demanding as a game like Quake. Also, the touchpad can be bound to functions in games that are not able to be bound on a standard pad, useful in many more PC-oriented games.

@Nycoorias 8 месяцев назад

Don't mind me, I'm just boosting this comment a bit.

@Jinkle 5 месяцев назад

I hate the fact CS2 doesn’t have controller support, I can’t use MnK I tried, it would be so great if they could add controllers only versions to games where the current players would complain about aim assist, separate games within the game is the answer.

@ananon5771 5 месяцев назад

@@Jinkle There is controller support, it just lacks aim assist, if you can't compete, that's why gyro aim exists.

@philiphayes1470 8 месяцев назад

Top update. Congratulations your showing 100k my end now, I think your heart and soul is clearly evident in all reviews and I'll take your word over any other fucker in the world. Many thanks for all your shares... "👍"...

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for that positivity

@jamelrolle1356 8 месяцев назад

Congratulations on your 100K Subscribers

@justdf6468 4 месяца назад

am i right in understanding that steam recognises this controller as an xbox controller? can anyone explain why when it has ps4 layout?

@vmiget01 8 месяцев назад

When you make the desolder thumb stick video, PLEASE include the temp of the soldering iron. Thanks

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

Ok 👌

@Direalest 8 месяцев назад

I need your help the Gamesir G7 died after about month and half of use... Ironically after the warranty period ended smh

@yeaabigog7697 8 месяцев назад

Can you use g keys for binds in games?

@AyeYoYoYooo 8 месяцев назад

Please consider reviewing the RetroBit Wireless Pro Saturn controller, with Hall effect sticks ! Definitely not a typical pro controller, very different niche from what you normally cover so thoroughly. Would love to know the lag testing, your opinion of how you feel the Saturn style d-pad compares to Razer’s delicious 8-way microswitched d-pad on the Wolverine pro/raion/etc.

@AquaticMammalOnBicycle 3 месяца назад

Those “Pros” are a lie and a scam. It’s literally the same plastic junk with loose wobbly buttons and same exact shell as the earlier models, but with analog sticks jammed in with no additional design work.

@AyeYoYoYooo 3 месяца назад

@@AquaticMammalOnBicycle in what way does the D-Pad MOTION/Range/tilt feel different from the stock model 2’s ? I don’t need them to be great with fighting games as I play those all via BrookWingmanSD + stick , just for platformers or puzzle games

@xmenn44 6 месяцев назад

i returned to watch these videos again cuz its been 2 years, and i now need a new controller

@brandonmckirgan407 2 месяца назад

Love this channel

@Magromancer 8 месяцев назад

I just got the Envision Pro yesterday, couldn't get the iCue Hardware Mappings to work on the paddles but still was able to use it in games without the paddles, but right after finishing Genshin Impact last night, it stopped working and I'm thinking it might be the cable because the wireless device works on all of the different USB Ports I used it in, I also tried resetting the controller but same thing, I sent a repair request on the website, hopefully it won't cost me much to get it fixed because other than the mapping difficulties and the controller dying on me after playing Genshin, I really like this controller.

@xSCUBAxx 7 месяцев назад

once you figure out how to set the right stick as your mouse cursor in the software let me know

@Thwap23 7 месяцев назад

For anyone who doesn't know you can remap the A and B buttons, you just have to remap them to something else first. They don't let you not have them mapped but you can put them wherever you want. I think this is a bigger pro for the Envision than people give it credit for, you can remap any button to basically any function, PC or Controller and don't need to have any wasted/double bound buttons. I setup scroll wheel reset and dedicated inventory buttons using kb binds for Fort, all in the included software which is pretty nice.

@iamnobodyy_ 6 месяцев назад

yeah im ready to get mine tmr im going to set one to scroll wheel reset and other to scroll wheel pick up and having mouse click on 90% of the controller is really good

@kevclark8661 8 месяцев назад

great follow on and great point about hot swappable sticks modules ...if not hollows than the ability to remove them easy ala the dual sense edge is an acceptable alternative..good job

@ryanjackson4717 5 месяцев назад

Where is the stick drift fix link

@mightyhats 4 месяца назад

I couldn't find part 3 of this video, if this Scaf controller does it work with Cronus zen or not? could someone guide me 😅

@slugzz- 8 месяцев назад

So this controller can’t be overlocked?

@MultiChrisjohnson 8 месяцев назад

congrats on 100k goat

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

Thanks brother I appreciate it

@ethangould3678 8 месяцев назад

Hey bro, I think you forgot to put the sticker drift video in the description, going to go look through your playlists now. Thank you for the review! 5:44

@AJxPrime 8 месяцев назад

he literally said ina few days hes gonna do the video lol

@JohnnyJaga 8 месяцев назад

Congrats on 100K, Kevin! Now is the time to appropriately "mollywop the back paddles!" I said that in my sexiest, slowest voice possible.

@litpink 8 месяцев назад

congrats on 100k

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

Thank you lit pink

@daveoum8586 8 месяцев назад

Holy crap I thought this channel already had 1+m subs seeing as it was always recommended for controller reviews. It's like the go to channels for RU-vid.

@MenacetheProblem 4 месяца назад

Yeah I’ll admit I bought a b550 gaming board but didn’t get the WiFi and Bluetooth option because i thought I would always play with Ethernet connected but failed to realize I would lose the Bluetooth wireless controller feature. Had to pick up the envision for having the wireless dongle

@epicmike3915 7 месяцев назад

What custom xbox controller is that at 8:04?

@razormartins 8 месяцев назад

So it cant be overclocked to 1ms?

@Aebebeoa 8 месяцев назад

I was thinking about buying this pad, but I found out that it does not have a gyroscope, and now I know that I will definitely not buy it. It's a pity because it seems to be very good. For me, its biggest drawback is the lack of a gyroscope

@jont1375 8 месяцев назад

Waaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! 100k!?!? Congratulations!! 🎉

@assassinproxd 8 месяцев назад

Can't wait for that teardown, I plan to replace the giblets with hall effects when they finally crap out on me.

@chronicmayhem 8 месяцев назад

This is the first scuf controller im considering buying, might even semm my elite series 2

@giovanniprado3887 8 месяцев назад

I am gonna wait for the version 2 of this controller and hopefully they will change the back buttons/paddle.

@aaronmx8 6 месяцев назад

For PC Duelsense Edge, Stelth Ultra or Scuf Envision Pro?

@Randoman590 3 месяца назад

If you're playing on PC, you want Gyro. Envision does not have Gyro. So immediately scratch that off your list.

@kane5429 8 месяцев назад

I have a T4 kaleid with 0.02 or 0.2 error when rotating analog sticks with hardware tester. I'm pretty impressed with there halo sticks

@djervis11 3 месяца назад

Wait, there are wireless dongles to use other controllers on PS5? I’d love to be able to use my Vantage on PS5. Is that true? Can someone link or send me the name to Google?

@iyeetsecurity922 7 месяцев назад

Out of the ~20+ controllers I have, only _one_ has has drift. The PowerA Nano. And that's *my fault* because I swapped the sticks out a lot to find out which fit the best/look best.

@kotztotz3530 8 месяцев назад

Flydigi Vader 3 Pro is currently $56 on Amazon as of 10/24/23 1:40 CST

@AspectWarrior 8 месяцев назад

You should try the Fantech wgp14 controller, its only $40, has HE sticks and 2 back buttons, but it supports ps4 and not ps5, but does have pc support

@samwell1791 8 месяцев назад

ive never seen a comp player use gyro

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

I know it's not allowed in tournaments, I meant more so people playing ranked at home and s*** like that. I personally don't ever use gyro, but I hear people in the comments flexing about how it's the esports rage apparently.... Not sure exactly how

@samwell1791 8 месяцев назад

@@GamerHeavenOfficial maybe that’s they key I need to hit top 250 lol 😂

@MV-ri7zu 8 месяцев назад

@@GamerHeavenOfficial really? Im pretty sure Huke used it in mw2 in cdl matches or tried to, but it didnt really help.

@MV-ri7zu 8 месяцев назад

@@samwell1791hitting top 250 just requires a ps5 and a massive grind if you can get to iridescent then its just playing more.

@mahfkr 8 месяцев назад

@@MV-ri7zuThere are some videos about the benefits of gyro aiming. I’ve never used it personally, but I think it’s really interesting. Still more of a novelty feature though imo

@Cloysterpete 8 месяцев назад

Battery life is one of the most important factors for me, it’s why I won’t even consider the Dualsense Edge. Scuff doesn’t even mention the battery life on the website so I’m assuming it’s terrible.

@konawolv 8 месяцев назад

The battery life is actually incredible. Probably 40 hours or so. I played wireless for about 2.5 hours and the battery life was 92%. I'm not even sure if it was 100% charged or not

@vaqentuari8585 8 месяцев назад

Scuf Vantage 2 vibes! Wish I could use it for console.

@Maverick_Sazerp 7 месяцев назад

I don’t understand the PC only argument… if it did work on Console, how would you map all the buttons without iCUE? Would it not make all the g keys useless? ❗️(Real honest question)❗️

@richardelliott3626 7 месяцев назад

I got my scuf today and the icue app won’t install

@xaytana 8 месяцев назад

So it seems like those G keys are no longer so special. Next Xbox update (October's) on PC, via the Xbox Accessories app, introduces keyboard bindings for the Elite and the Adaptive Controller's inputs. This also seems to go a step beyond what Scuf is doing, as you can rebind _any_ button on the Elite Series 2. Maybe this will eventually roll out to all Microsoft controllers, and hopefully all Xinput controllers beyond that. I'm not sure if it's a separate remapper, or if this is functionality utilizing the GameInput API; maybe someday Microsoft will outright offer what Steam Input offers via these kinds of updates. I also wonder what implications this has for the console side of things, especially on Gen10 where they have been looking to expand more into cloud/streaming services with the implication that there may be an Xbox OS for various lighter devices, though this keyboard mapping update may even have some implications in the current console cycle that could be a future update; considering some types of games really do need more inputs than what Xinput, or consoles in general, allow for.

@BDC_Loot_Goblin 8 месяцев назад

Firstly I’m obsessed with your channel I’ve been binge watching all your reviews trying to get the best controller for me. I’m a pc player and play Apex primarily so I want a controller with comfortable rear paddles, responsive sticks, and low input lag. I was hoping this would be it! I already have an elite s2 with massive stick drift, and I play on a razer raiju, which I love but it’s a bit beat up. I’m going to try the flydigi. Would you consider doing a vid on the best controller for competitive shooters specifically? Love the content!

@GamerHeavenOfficial 8 месяцев назад

That's awesome to hear Gavin, and yes I will make that video. But to not waste your time if you're in the entry level I would say the gamesir g7, if you're in the mid level fly Digi Vader 3, and if you're in the high end a hyper signature , or Aim v3

@BDC_Loot_Goblin 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the advice! I think ill go the hyper, but I do love the flydigi too, something about it speaks to me, maybe both 😂 can’t wait for that vid!

@allansm66 5 месяцев назад

@@BDC_Loot_GoblinI ordered a Hypr in November. It hasn't even been assembled yet and they ignore my inquiries. But they took my money right away.

@BDC_Loot_Goblin 5 месяцев назад

@@allansm66 fyi I decided against the hypr, the price to performance didn’t seem to stack up for me. I went with the fly digi Vader 3 pro, it arrived in a couple of weeks and I love it!

@allansm66 5 месяцев назад

@@BDC_Loot_Goblin good thinking. Everyone should stay away from these guys. They're a pseudo company that warms up to content creators, but WILL leave you hanging after the order has gone thru.