Shocking! 3 Deciding Factors for a Stage 2 for Your Harley Low Rider ST 

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Love the topic. I want a bike that has pop at the twist of the throttle; prefer torque cams versus HP cams. I’m not doing burnouts, or riding wheelies, or riding in the top end to see just how fast it’ll run. If I need to pass, I want to hit it, be by the car I’m passing, and back in my lane safely. I also enjoy a cranky exhaust. I’m a big fan of Zippers Performance in Baltimore I believe they’re headquartered. They make what I think is the most iconic torque cam in the Red Shift 468. I like combining that with D&D billet cat exhaust (Made in Texas), and the Thundermax Auto Tuner. I think your bike would jump out of its paint and sound like a NASCAR….and yet be very rideable which is important to me. I don’t want an unreliable hotrod that is always on a lift in the shop tore down, while my buddies are out riding without me. I know you have two bikes, but I like my bike bullet-proof. Traveling Tall up in Knoxville also swears by Zippers, and Adam Sandoval is getting his new ‘24 RG dialed in by Rusty, owner of D&D Exhaust who does most of Adam’s bikes. AND Zippers and D&D have collaborated for years. Best of both worlds brother, and less than $5500 I’m sure.

Awesome video as always my friend

I had a stage 2 done this last winter on my 23 road glide standard at a place here in northern Illinois called Bone Breaker Performance. I was happy how it perked up my 107. It went to 97 hp and 120 torque. I know you’re gonna get to far better numbers than that. But I’m quite happy with it and like any motorcycle, it was something I wanted, not really needed. Let’s face it a stock bike is fast enough to get injured on orbit worse. Great video as always. Keep them coming and let us know how it turns out!

Stage 4 on my 2017 street glide special love the power and it's alot of fun once you go from stock you will never ride other stock bike again just my opinion can't wait to see how you like it and your going to love it and have alot of fun ..

You’ll love the stage 2! Love mine… Just find someone you trust… Moonshine may be a little more $ than Joe down the street but they will do you right and get it done rather quickly in comparison to the small Shop that will need to wait on parts. Plus they will be able to tune it. A good tune is the most important thing.

Done 3030 cam on my 2023lowriderST at 933 miles and never been happier

Glad to be aboard with you, Ty from my state. I live near Moonshine Harley-Davidson. I know some of the employees. I’ve been there many times. As far as a Stage 2 or any other upgrade, I enjoy what I have. It’s a Stage 3, but on an Ultra Limited. It’s a 122 cubic inches. I had a Basani 2 into 1 on my Low Rider S. I liked it.

Just me, but I'm older, cost isn't an issue, but, I have a fine amount of power with my 24 Road Glide and I don't want to go by things fast, I want to enjoy every vision. I've had all the speed rushes most anyone could handle. Now I'm here to enjoy what I never saw when I was younger. Just me and certainly not a rebuttal.

Nice video keep up the good work Ty From Tennessee

Moonshine just did a stage 2 on my 14 Ultra Limited 2 weeks ago and those guys are amazing. Huge difference in my bike now, those wood cam are great plus went d&d 2-1 exhaust. Call Nick at Moonshine and he’ll get ya taken care of

Do it! Just not too loud... I don't want my pre-loved LRST to hurt my ears :D

Looking forward to following along and see how it turns out!

I really appreciate your content and channel.. I too would consider myself a regular rider and I appreciate your honesty and also your delivery.. well done Ty.

Ty fast bikes are fun can wait to know what kind of horse power and Torque you're gonna get out of it when you put a stage 2 on your bike.

I bought all the good stuff for my 2024 FXLRST stage 1 bu tthinking of the stage 2 , plate and rods and cam and pump 5K. thats nuts and how much is the tune I guess I gotta pass for the sound and a little more power. its the sound for me. ive already put 5K in it and the wife keeps saying. you said that was the last thing you needed ha keep riding bro. big island

Can’t wait for future videos on it

One tip is to wait until the colder months during the "off-season" when fewer bikes are on the road so the dealership(s) are LOOKING for work to do. Your bike won't be down for nearly as long and you'll be back on it in time for the so-called "riding season." I have Rhinehart slip-ons on my Fast Johnnie RG ST. I'm considering getting a Basani 2-into-1.🤔🤔🤔decisions, decisions...lol

Thank you Ty for your monologue.

Love MHP!!! I’m from Bowling Green,Ky but I live in Cape Coral Florida for the last 20 years I want to visit Moonshine In Franklin so bad. Hopefully one day. Anyway always appreciate your content. Ride safe!

Thanks for the video and i would not go anymore than stage two

Ty, off subject but what vest is that you're wearing? I'm in the market and like the way it looks!

I’m so excited to see how the numbers are after you DO THIS

I have proven that I am not responsible enough to be trusted with extra HP/Torque… 😮 In Sturgis this year, I’m having The Fairing Exchange install Dakota Digital gauges in my TriGlide.

I have heard great things about the Moonshine service department. They do things outside the standard HD box. Me, I just want to know what i in my Freewheeler. It's obvious she has an upgraded exhaust system. It's obvious she has an upgraded cam. I just have no idea what is in there though and I really want to know. I am sure the previous owner probably had it tuned when all these upgrades were put in, but I do not have the tuner. There is no record of anything in the Harley database other than they installed Spooky handlebars and reattached an emblem. So, the owner had this done outside the dealerships.

I traded my ‘21 Ultra for a ‘23 Ultra last August. I had my dealer swapping several parts from the old bike to the new one along with doing a Stage One. The technician that was working with me advised me to go ahead and get the Stage Two saying that in the long run it would save me money since they would already working on the engine and I wouldn’t have to pay extra labor hours later on. Now when it comes to stuff like this I’m as dumb as a rock so I don’t know if he was telling me the truth or just blowing smoke up my skirt but I do know that this bike has more power and I don’t find myself down shifting nearly as much on these Tennessee hills and twistees that we are blessed to ride on here in our part of the world. So did I need it, no. But do I like the extra power that I have on a heavy bike like the Ultra, absolutely. So I’d say go ahead and get the Stage Two, especially since your bike is a CVO.

Stage II eh...well with those projected torque and HP, get ready to change tires more often, and might as well change the belt to chain drive...lol thanks for sharing

Can you post a link to the vest you’re wearing? Thanks

My son's 3rd bike was a $30k Chopper back in 2009. What I'm doing with my 2020 SGS. Stage 1 tune. If I am able to use that up. Then I will rebuild or replace. It's plenty fast enough. Spend money when it breaks

I have a stage one on my RG and it’s fast enough for me. 😂😂😂

I’m extremely fortunate! I went from a 2003 Sporster (1200) Sport to 2006 Night Train (88) to a 2007 Road King (96) to a 2023 Low Rider ST (117). At times the ST still scares the hell outta me…so I’m good but thanks for thinking about me.

Im looking for stage 1 on my ST. I thought there was a stage 2 type cam in it already? Greetings from the uk.

🛑🛑 Go Balls Deep, Ty!💯 Put a Trask Turbo on that ST and put a “Hawk Tuah on that thing”!! 😂🤣😆👍

White Lightning said they would do a cam for way less than them figures. I'm assuming your just adding a cam.

I would let moonshine harley do it,they do so many bikes and it hard to beat experience

I would not do more than a stage 2 that's just me. I think your low rider would look killer if you had the new custom dynamics Demon headlight. Again, that's just me.

Is that $5k using your pipe and tuner?

Stages I don’t need no stages 😂.

There's a couple guys cycle fanatics is one and mk 87 is another, that get all there parts for free and all there work done for free on there motorcycles . And they pass all this off as they paid for everything themselves. And when you question them on this they block you. They are fakes, so Iam glad you pay for everything and don't pass it off like they do. I have stage 2 on my sportglide best thing I ever did. The only thing is your tank of gas will deplete a lot quicker.

I'm not a big fan of the "stage" moniker. I did just put in an S&S 475 cam and oil pump kit in my '23 FXLRS 117. Gotta love the lope that yields. Maybe $1500 if you do it yourself. It took one day to do and no way near $5k. Then there is the tuning thing which from what I hear is about $800. The thing rips and sounds much more HD than that silly stupid stock system. Screamin Eagle? No way. Not worth the time and $$$ for almost nothing. Sure, you lose your engine warranty but so what.

Nicely done. Can be hard to figure out how to go about this. I did a detailed video on parts and cost breakdown as well recently. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0t46bQEK0Ng.htmlsi=ax6as06-itY-ihFX

Going to a "Stage 2" is the best bang for the buck power upgrade that can be done. I'm a hard rider and have had a "performance bagger" since long before it was a trend. Don't take this the wrong way, but I've ridden with your crew and seen plenty of the videos, you all are not performance riders, nor do you "push" your bikes. So why do you want to waste your money and time with an upgrade that you will do nothing with? You're not using your ST's power with a stage 1, why in the world would you want more? Really the only thing a Stage2 is going to do is get you riding above your head and out of your comfort zone, which increases your chance of "issues"....

Anyone with basic tool knowledge can do a stg2 at home... i have never been in a motor and done my cam myself.

No way Ty. These bikes are already expensive and fast. The best use for your hard earned money is safety and comfort but that’s just me. I hope that what ever you decide it’s right for you.