Sleeving a 396 Big Block for a 1970 Camaro - MuscleCar S6, E8

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Learn how a block is sleeved when the 396 engine for our 1970 Camaro RS/SS goes to the machine shop. Tommy shows some of the finer points of assembling an engine including file-fitting rings and measuring rod clearance. Rick explains how to convert an auto car to a 4-speed.
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Max-Tuff Assembly Lube
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ARP: Main Bolt Kit
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ARP: Rod Bolt Kit
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ARP: Ultra-Torque Assembly Lubricant
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Comp Cams: Factory Muscle Solid Lifter Camshaft
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Comp Cams: Magnum Double Roller Timing Set
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Comp Cams: Magnum Pushrods
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Comp Cams: Magnum Steel Roller Tip Rocker Arms
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Comp Cams: Solid Lifters
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Eagle Specialty Products: Forged 4340 Steel Crankshaft
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Federal-Mogul Corporation: Engine Gasket Kit Set
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Loctite: 587 RTV Blue Silicone Gasket Maker
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Powerhouse Products: Outside Micrometer: 2-3""
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Summit Racing: Cast Iron Cylinder Heads
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United Engine and Machine Company/Icon Pistons: ICON FHR Series Piston and Hastings Ring Kit
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American Powertrain Systems: Brake Pedal and Clutch Pedal Kit with Mechanical Linkage
American Powertrain Systems: OE Spec 621 GM Bellhousing
American Powertrain Systems: Science Friction Billet Steel Flywheel
American Powertrain Systems: Science Friction Clutch Kit
Huntsville Engine and Performance: Machine Work on Block included Sleeve Cylinder Wall, Line Hone and Decking Block
Loctite: 2760 Primerless Thread Locking Compound
Matco Tools: Magnetic Base with Dial Indicator

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@PowerNationTV 4 года назад

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@jimthomas777 4 года назад

POWERNATION , I got a 66 Super Sport Chevelle with a built 327 , 12:5 to 1 compression Forged pistons , Vette crank , 350 four bolt main engine block , aluminum hi rise intake, HEI distributor , headers , 750Cfm carb. 11 inch clutch , Lakewood blow proof Bellhousing , M-21 Muncie 4 speed trans , 12 bolt posi Trac , Traction bars , 5.5 sec@ 96mph in 1/8

@richardroberts9825 3 года назад

@SGTJDerek 4 года назад

I miss Rick. Tommy works well with everyone but him and Rick were my favorite.

@goldenmanuever1176 3 года назад

Agree good to see boshers and bacon together.

@billiondollardan 4 года назад

Why do I love these shows so much? I don't really know. I just know I can't stop watching

@jacobjohnson3200 4 года назад

I like how they treat the audience like we have a brain and can understand basic concepts.

@thedaredevil1907 4 года назад

For me pure nostalgia

@rcnelson 4 года назад

What a dream--a large, clean garage with heat and a concrete floor, immaculate engines surrounded by plenty of open space to work in, and all the tools necessary. Paradise.

@MikeBaxterABC 4 года назад

Yep! :( ... I swapped an old tired straight 6, with a 350 chevy small block, and a TH350 transition. SO? All custom fabricated mounts brackets etc. Oh and I did all the "on vehicle" work, l OUSIDE in the winter, (In Canada)

@alejandrocortes9444 4 года назад

Man, great vids! I love these types of shows. No fuzz, no non-sense. Just the processes as they go

@jayyoutube8790 4 года назад

These shows were and are awesome. All of them. “Trucks” “extreme 4X4” “horsepower tv” and the others I can’t remember the name of are all great shows.

@karlsmith2570 4 года назад

jon doe I especially miss X-treme 4x4, especially when Jessi Combs was co-hosting the show with Ian R.I.P.: Jessi Combs

@trifivegarage8683 4 года назад

@@karlsmith2570 yep...was suprised when I heard about her passing. It's sad.

@jayyoutube8790 4 года назад

John O'Neill ok, now why would my “nose be brown”?

@mrtank1967 4 года назад

Love watching all your builds you're doing a great job on this one look forward to seeing it all put together keep it safe and keep the rubber on the road.

@raymondfb 4 года назад

I learn something new every video. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos

@trifivegarage8683 4 года назад

Miss this series Rick and Tommy worked well together! 👍

@plupkination 4 года назад

Wow, this brings back memories!! Its crazy to see an almost 50 year old car being rebuilt, when I had helped a friend of mine rebuild his '70 Camaro while I was in high school back in 1984!! He got really lucky with the body and interior when he bought his '70, it was in barely used shape! He still repainted the car, but the bulk of the work went into the powertrain.. We rebuilt a small block 350 motor top to bottom, as well as the turbo hydramatic 350 tranny, if I remember correctly.. The overall result? Lets just say he was the envy of our entire graduating class! I really wish I had some pics to show! Its awesome to see somebody putting an even bigger muscle car motor in a '70 Camaro! Can't wait to see the finished result! Awesome job, guys!

@zippythechicken 4 года назад

this was one of their better shows

@nigelhodges7173 4 года назад

I have watched plenty PowerNation shows and they have all been good, but this episode is the best one I have seen by far, Tommy had some great content and explanations

@phoenixblack1220 4 года назад

Outstanding work! Looking forward to seeing the car in paint and coming together.

@omarbueno3658 3 года назад

I always clean my flywheel one last time before installing the clutch

@johnmilner7603 4 года назад

Keep'em coming cause I missed them when they were on TV.

@grigs249 2 года назад

The oil clearance measurements are never out of tolerance! Love the show

@oyesimon8112 4 года назад

I enjoy watching all you guy's, yah make the episode's fun and learning, I myself have learned to fix my own vehicle from a mechanic friend of the family, and I have ask question's when I take my vehicle to get checked when I hear a noise not appealing to my ears, I have seen other mechanic's but they sound obnoxious, you fellas are perfect 👍thanks teacher's you guy's are going to save me alot of money and I love learning, it's not bad to ask question's, anyways thanks for the lessons

@redchris97 4 года назад

8:04 God dang it Boom Howard!!!😂😂😂😂

@kennethconnors5316 4 года назад

like the way you guys work together , you know your stuff , still learning from you both

@crzzymnn911 4 года назад

I love this. I always learn something and theres just something soothing about working on a car

@Chase_01 4 года назад

I love watching professionals restore cars

@magnatron7734 3 года назад

Miss this show.

@ryanehlis426 3 года назад

I remember in auto mechanics class in high school my teacher had us mix STP oil treatment 50/50 with motor oil for assembly lube.

@bennyfactor 4 года назад

Thanks for posting these old episodes. Still interesting to watch even if it's not "new"

@LanGista02 4 года назад

Dang, you guys do all of this epic work so easily, as guy may think : no problem, i'll do it myself. Best way to teach engine assembly ever. I bet noone in my Town will ever assembly any engine with such a precision and care for the smallest details as grinding the pistion rings.

@Lindenbum 4 года назад

I used to have a 68 chevelle ss 396 I rebuilt the engine 42 years ago. This brought back memories from taking the block heads and crank to the machine shop for work. I thinks the machine shop and bearings they supplied set me back $300. Wish I still had that car.

@ramonrivera5467 2 года назад

That cars coming out right I can't wait to see when it's done.

@jonathanduke8295 4 года назад

Doing a great job guys

@flyfliker 4 года назад

Christmas ornament hangin from Ricks ear

@johnsmith-qz4bv 4 года назад

great work guys

@navvet4518 4 года назад

That’s going to be a blast to drive. 6000 rpm, sidestep the clutch and hold on! Im really happy that the 396 was serviceable. It’s a piece of muscle car history that is gone forever. I’m curious if there are subframe connectors in the Camaro’s future. That 96 has a few more lbs of torque then the 307. Great build guys!

@bigsean2473 4 года назад

blueprint engines still make them and all the other big blocks as well

@markbulva4188 4 года назад

I’ve never had to sleeve a motor but it’s always been my humble opinion to sleeve every cylinder so it’s uniform

@XxYucayequexX 4 года назад

I love these guys!

@raymondj8768 4 года назад

I used those roller rockers on my 800 HP race motor they lasted 6 years there pretty dam strong !

@vilheim11 4 года назад

They make it look so easy

@fullmindstorm 4 года назад

Cant wait for the next video.

@Pgcmoore 4 года назад

outstanding!!!

@ghulam8697 3 года назад

You people is genius

@NewtonWashinton 4 года назад

I was glad you changed the heads, i have no problem with the block repair, lower end looks ok with high dome pistons to get your 11.5:1 and solid lifter setup, 2 bolt mains is not L78, also intake does not look correct. a stock L78 makes 425 hp and 445 tq, Chevy under rated these at 375 hp, with headers you make 457 hp and 464 tq.

@ssj2xxgotenxx 4 года назад

It so much better to watch automotive videos with professional narration and filming.

@xXcashXx3 4 года назад

Remmeber watching this and horse power on spike tv

@karlsmith2570 4 года назад

xXcashXx3 I remember when Lou Santiago was the original host of this show

@codyramos3200 3 года назад

Trucks! with Stacey David was the shit back then 15 years ago

@1SixpenceFan 3 года назад

It was called something different before Spike TV, I can't remember what it was right now.

@jonathanduke8295 4 года назад

Keep on keeping on

@thenofilterchannel8247 3 года назад

I've always said I can sleeve anything,, finally I seen someone do it RIGHT

@javierandrada1620 2 года назад

exelente video. muy instructivo y completo. los felicito gracias por compartir sus conocimientos abrazos desde argentina.

@jayyoutube8790 4 года назад

Remember “shady tree mechanics”? That was one of the 1st shows from way back then...

@joeestes8114 4 года назад

jon doe yes, i really liked that show! I wish i could watch the reruns for that show.

@karlsmith2570 4 года назад

jon doe don't you mean "Shade Tree Mechanics"??? If you did, I remember that show, Sam Memolo and Dave are still doing the show but it's got a New name, it's now called "2 Guys Garage"

@joeestes8114 4 года назад

Karl Smith oh ok yes! I will check that out Thanks!

@jayyoutube8790 4 года назад

Karl Smith whatever.. don’t matter, everyone knows what show I am talking about.

@KensGarage. 3 года назад

Rick looks like the iconic 70's muscle car driver with those chops haha

@tonymonastiere8510 4 года назад

True L-78's and L-34's had 4 bolt mains with a L-78 having steel crank. "Hi-perf pass" was cast on the block @ oil pump area, and stamped with T1212JD on the block. They came with square port heads, with 2.19 intake valves along with 11:5 comp and solid lifter cam with 0.520/0.520 lift. On top came a hi-rise aluminum manifold with a Holley #4150, 780cfm. The rod bolts on a 396 were 3/8" while the 427 hi-perf. came with 7/16" bolts and the rods were dimpled. L-89's came with aluminum heads. Using No. 72 jets in the primary with tube headers would get around 500h.p.

@vhp454 4 года назад

They also came with 7/16 diameter push rods

@dbabb2484 4 года назад

Nice google work man

@mikeraddish7213 4 года назад

375s comp.ratio was 11to 1. Early 427 hi perf. Motors came with 3/8 rod bolts. They were notorious for breaking . You had to check them when buying replacement short blocks to make sure you got the 7/16 bolt. This was before arps came out

@machone7580 4 года назад

Kept the shelled-out block but scrapped the heads for new Summit castings? With today's low-ZDDP motor oil, I'da put a roller cam in it for sure.

@stevewelborn8744 4 года назад

That's what I was gonna say. A nice hydraulic roller would add some power too.

@mikemcgrew65 4 года назад

Rick Campbell I have my cams made at Engle Brothers, I let them know what I plan on doing with the engine and so far they have been spot on!

@ebrowntaylor1 4 года назад

Oh yea, the stress of potentially wiping out a lobe just ain't worth it to me either.

@poortouringhotwiregarage5617 4 года назад

I've been an engine builder and machinist for 28 years now and the only reason why cam lobes get flattened is improper tear down and prep of the lifter bores. 95% of my hot rods and classics are sill flat tappet and zero problems. Oh yeah, and watch out for the soft GM cams from the 80's but I swap those junk smogger cams out anyways.

@luckyPiston 4 года назад

On a street motor that will only occasionally see 6000 rpm there is no need to run 450 lbs springs, especially with this cams easy lobe profile and medium lift.

@thegenerousdegenerate9395 4 года назад

I really wish they'd put the original airdate of these episodes in the description.

@FaustoTheBoozehound 4 года назад

At the very end it shows the copyright date in Roman numerals, this one is from 2011.

@geneva760 4 года назад

HA - watching the guy without any safety glasses and right down next to the machine whilst it is decking the block makes for GREAT viewing. HA - CRAZY.

@nisarjamali1919 4 года назад

Great warkshap

@jeffheld3971 4 года назад

Before sanding any rear main bearing thrust surfaces always measure the widths of both the upper & lower bearings; you might be surprised to find one half is wider than the other. Be sure to inspect the thrust bearing saddle faces on the block for irregularities too.

@anthonyr1080 4 года назад

Yes indeed a sleeve is fine, do it all the time I use a white glue same as seat inserts, the step at the bottom makes it a pro job. The valve relief is for rectangle port heads with large valves and hi lift. note; all 4 bolt man blocks have it. Who coaches the speech technique all these performance show people sound the same ,(as a matter of fact robot ). fun to watch even though i do this all day long KEEP it up .

@jdsharp5036 4 года назад

When you measured main bearing bore with bearings,you stated that the clearance was 24,26 and 29. Tolerances are the correct terminology are crucial and new engine builders might take that as .024,.026 and .029, when in fact it’s +.0024,+.0026 and +.0029 and the diameter should be stated as plus 2 and 4 tenths of a thousandth and so on for each diameter and written +.0024. And when checking diameter of mains and pins,you should always check in 2 places at 90 degrees from each other,this will not only show undersize diameters,it will also show egg shape of diameters if present.And you HAVE to measure in tenths of a thousandth if you want accuracy,if your micrometers don’t read in tenths,I suggest that you get them and have an experienced tool and die maker or a good machinist teach you how to correctly use and read a micrometer,this aspect of building engines is the most crucial part,and you’ll gain more respect,and I agree with the knowledgeable people on here,that block is a boat anchor,gonna be a hot spot there and I sure as hell didn’t like how easy that sleeve pressed in.

@ChristopherGaul 4 года назад

Surprised they just hammered that sleeve in without freezing it first.

@mikespillman3075 4 года назад

ya, I was a little concerned when they did that....i'm used to seeing machine shops doing the machine word so that warming the block and freezing the sleeve are the usual......

@teddammit5179 4 года назад

@@mikespillman3075 I thought that sleeves had to be pressed in?

@bowhite1293 4 года назад

Freeze the sleeve and put sealer in the cylinder since its to water.

@ChristopherGaul 4 года назад

Yeah. AFAIK the standard procedure is to freeze the sleeve, heat the block, then press in the sleeve. I suppose production schedules and budget limitations sometimes overrule processes.

@superduty4556 4 года назад

@@ChristopherGaul press/hammer meh apparently

@hitman1268 4 года назад

Love .powernation.

@eugenecussen3735 4 года назад

I would double check that boot on the clutch fork ;-)

@nellyfarnsworth7381 4 года назад

WOW! The machine shop bill, was more than, buying another BBC. WE have five.

@svenomick5857 4 года назад

Did you get the flywheel and clutch balanced for the engine on this rebuild

@theodoremccoy3238 4 года назад

I always clean my flywheel one last time before installing the clutch

@kineticinstallationspecial5775 4 года назад

So this is where Jay Cutler went.

@LSniumUwU 3 года назад

It amazes me how many tools and oils and lubricants they have to put an engine together.

@michaelmace924 4 года назад

3:31 They had to put a clean shirt on this guy, he had chips & mayo all over the one he was wearing.

@tomrose6292 3 года назад

Don't believe that I've build hundreds never had oling issue

@tomrose6292 3 года назад

Or gaulded bearing

@ckane510 4 года назад

Not trying to be a critic however when using Loctite make sure you use it correctly. Apply the Loctite to the holes in the crank, not the bolts for the flywheel. Loctite will end up between the flywheel and crank flange as it will be extracted off the bolt while screwing it in. Common mistake made by many people!

@DefWun 4 года назад

Not quite true. I have used thread locker for years by putting it on the bolt first and never had an issue. I will say that I don't just slap it on and jam a bolt in though. I put it on and wait a minute or so,while blowing on it. This way it gels up, before I tighten it down. I have pulled out threadlocked bolts and they were tight coming out and the threads had thread locker between them.

@geauxtigers2911 4 года назад

You put the locktight on the bolts first, start with the first one you did allowing a minute or so to gel up

@cc9z 4 года назад

i worked many years in a factory using loctite and i found out the only thing red is for it just will not come out unless a touch is used and is heated up to 450 degrees

@ckane510 4 года назад

D F I agree you will have success that way however...have you ever pulled a flywheel off and seen migrated Loctite? That’s what I’m referring to. After Loctite cures, by nature (how it’s designed) it will force against the two surfaces, act as a jack and you will have a runout on the flywheel. Probably not a big issue on a typical street engine but it matters in pro racing when air gap is critical.

@DefWun 4 года назад

@@cc9z yes. Red is typically the "permanent" thread locker,that requires heat to break loose. Blue is "removable".

@oldfoxy0542 4 года назад

I would like to see them build a 74-79 camaro to a dirt oval track stock car because I would like to know how to build it. There is one that races near my little town that is stock from the original owners from the 70's or 80's

@mercman2.5 4 года назад

If your gonna da an L78, might wanna start with an L78 block, 4 bolt main💪

@ineffable1129 3 года назад

It's debatable if the 4 bolt main is much of an improvement over 2 bolt main on a BBC, it's more of a benefit for SBC. Plus you could just machine it for four bolt mains, the block casting are the same, with BBC and SBC. It's just like the valve relief it was only done on factory rec port BBC.

@gerrylundergaard60 4 года назад

Such great amusement in these shows. Just enough info for the shade tree hacks to FUBAR a project. Then the family suffers because it cost them to fall behind on the trailer payments. Pay attention or pay cash!

@jamest.5001 3 года назад

I will never use red locktight in a flywheel blot again! After spending a weekend under a vehicle, trying to get the bolts Back out! A torch, and several different sockets, I almost had to drill them out... I guess it could been poor quality bolts but I think blue loctight will work just fine!!

@minibikemadman 4 года назад

Bacon ftw!

@greenboyatgafarms2250 4 года назад

You can also use plastic gauge on the crankshaft 2 block inspection. We have been using plastigage for years with every motor we have built measure twice build once

@alexcorona 4 года назад

GreenBoy at GA Farms These guys have the correct tools to check the tolerances and you want them to do the half assed method? okay....

@greenboyatgafarms2250 4 года назад

@@alexcorona and how many motors have you ever built maybe some tricycle Motors

@greenboyatgafarms2250 4 года назад

@@alexcorona maybe you should stick to working on cameras. Do you even know what plastic gauge is or even how to use it do you know how to read it after it's torqued and compressed do you know how to read a dial indicator I'm pretty sure you don't otherwise you would not have left the comment you did plastic gauge is measured relatively close do the same thing as a dial indicator it measures how many thousands between journal to journal they've been doing this before dial indicators were even invented

@trentspight3027 Год назад

Seen a 400 sbc looks a though ring cut a groove in one of the walls.

@trentspight3027 Год назад

Looking at other cycles walls, wonder if ring cut a groove in the wall of the engine, put off balance one sleeve.

@kellygotell1179 3 года назад

I’d like to see the finished car

@brenthill3241 4 года назад

Certainly as chemistry and knowledge of metallurgy advances there are improved formulas for breakin procedures. That being said famed old school engine builder Ollie Morris built many a big block Chevy using good quality engine oil. He'd use as much as a quart during the assembly.

@rattle-can-resto5893 4 года назад

What is the valve spring pressures? 145 closed pressure is going to be right on the ragged edge of what those roller tip rockers can handle, bet they burn-em up.

@mikespillman3075 4 года назад

and no poly locks......

@traviskrause8509 4 года назад

396 is one of my favorite engines with it built right by compression and the cam work well together then you have a very fast very strong engine! Had one in a 69 nova and that engine was built and holy shit was it fast so fast in fact that my dad made me sell it!!! Black with rally stripes muncie rock crusher trans. Had the secondaries disconnected by my dad and it still smoked everybody! 396 is a keeper and gem of an engine!!!

@michaelprice3785 4 года назад

I had a sleeved 427 for a 69 Vette.

@codydutton9976 4 года назад

Did anyone else notice that they soaked the solid lifters in motor oil? lol

@mars6433 3 года назад

Question, what do you do if the crank caps were NOT marked when it was disassembled ??

@anthonycadiou8367 3 года назад

How much time do you allow for adjusting all eight cylinders for rings

@gregoryhowell 4 года назад

Tommy should have degreed the cam . That just makes sure it is right and helps set timing .

@Swervin309 4 года назад

14:32 I swear to God, I thought he was going to say, "I'm gonna go take a shit".

@brettb.7425 4 года назад

I’ve built many engines but have never installed a cylinder sleeve. Are you supposed to install them with any kind of sealant? I would think that a sleeve installed without sealant would allow for leaks especially if the cylinder is cracked or has holes in it like in the video.

@chuckwhitson654 3 года назад

So, I'm assuming you meant .0023 and .0024. Big difference between 2thousanths(or3 thousands) and twenty three. I know you guys are top notch but I wanted to clarify this for the youngsters and first time builders

@trentspight3027 Год назад

Engine been sleeved.

@Turbo4Joe363 4 года назад

Whoever sold you that holed 402 engine was laughing all the way to the bank. You spent a lot of machining time and money to make that boat anchor run again. If the block was numbers matching....OK...but otherwise throw that POS away and start with a decent block.

@SpringVinMoto 4 года назад

What is the compression ratio on those pistons? (I couldn't find it in the link) Looks really high. Will it run on pump gas?

@mikeraddish7213 4 года назад

Factory specs were 11x1

@1SixpenceFan 3 года назад

A stock L78 is 11.5:1 compression. NO on pump gas, I have a 472 Cadillac with 10.5:1 compression that I have to add one gallon of 114 octane to the tank each time I fill it up. I have a 11.5:1 BBC that I plan to run on E85 with one ounce of Klotz 2-stroke oil per gallon.

@johnhancock5554 4 года назад

👍👍🏁

@Frank289100 4 года назад

A GOOD REPLACEMENT TECHNIQUE WHEN REMOVING THE PILOT BEARING. IS TO USE PLUMBER'S PUTTY INSTEAD OF MESSY GREASE.

@rickybox6299 4 года назад

In my opinion the holes in the wall of the block is a death sentence for any high performance engine use. Also I would have ground out the holes and patched the holes somhow. I unfortunately do not have a million $ speed shop at my disposal. This engine is a ticking time bomb with this type of damage.

@bobhaddock957 4 года назад

how did you put the red "paint" on your sockets ?

@sokcgeat5595 Год назад

Do it like joints act's says all boy. Have great car run of road, see.....

@fadzlenkadir6014 4 года назад

Should've get 6 speed for that thing

@billsmusic4944 4 года назад

They just showed us how hard it is to find a rebuildable old Big Block Chevy engine these days without spending a small fortune.

@donrutter6765 4 года назад

496 Next time. 😁

@1SixpenceFan 3 года назад

Do these heads flow exactly the same as the original 3919840 heads? My uncle had a 1967 L78 with headers and the block had been decked, back in 1970s, people came out of the woodwork to try to outrun him, nobody did. He raced 440 six packs, 454s, 427s, 389s, etc. Nobody came close to outrunning him, The motor finally broke the frame on the left side on a 66 Chevelle (what he had it in).