Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - Full Audio Commentary (MauLer and Drinker) 

(I think) it's also because the pace of cuts between shots was slower so as a viewer you are able to drink in more of each shot and scene.

I think it is also because we have all seen it a 100 times. Because it is so good.

As I was watching it, I felt the same way. Like I could listen to it in the car and see the movie playing in my head with perfect recall.

That's because you're awesome.

If I were to play the movie along with the video (which I did with their Star Trek IV commentary that just came out) I would be watching the movie instead of listening to them. xD Had to keep it off and just play it in my head from memory. What a great film.

I remember the boomer fight that Shatner and Red Letter Media fans got into because he thought RLM was a podcast, it was funny as hell

@@DutyStalker357 That show runner on the new Picard season was sending out the entire season before it aired to popular RU-vidrs who cover Star Trek and pop culture I really didn't understand why he never give RLM exclusive access they're massive Trek fans

Very lucky being in the presence of a living legend.

​@@laurarules3642 I was wondering this too but I'm thinking they probably didn't ask or reach out, don't see RLM involved much with other youtubers and I think most of these guys that got early access was through knowing someone. They all prolly got into touch with Terry through Robert Meyer Burnett I'd bet

We all need to get as much Shatner as we can. Before it is too late.

Drinker mentioned in Open Bar 40 that Paramount's copyright rules are quite harsh. So I'm assuming that could be the reason there's no clip throughout.

LOL, try listening to the commentary while watching the original theatrical cut! Luckily if you're familiar with both you kind of know how long to pause the film for.

Yup unwatchable. Listenable with your imagination tho

yes, runtime on display

this

I went to high school with a guy named Khan, and I would always yell his name like that to get his attention. He'd never seen Star Treck before, so it always confused him.

Mauler being a trek newbie gives a great layer to it as well

...starting with Space Seed! ;-)

Yes please.

Yup. Agree 100% this was as good as any Happy Hour, and better than most. Tough to have a bad commentary about the greatest Trek film of all time.

This was terrific, wasn't it? I want them to do ST6 sometime.

God I want an undiscovered country of these. I'd love to hear a good compare and contrast from maulers perspective.

This is a beauty. Peace to you.

Peace and long life 🖖

You're a khan lover? Woah

A fresh set of eyes sees things afresh.

And the easy-going police captain, in The Terminator.

Shaka, when the walls fell.

Paul Winfield was a fantastic actor! He always played interesting characters.

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

He was also vaporized again in Mars Attacks.

It's a quote from Moby-Dick by Herman Melville.

I do love how the OG had a theatrical flair, and they drew on classic works.

Another thing to remember is that canonically Saavik is half-Romulan, which is one of the reasons why Spock was personally mentoring her (in the novelization and a scene that was cut from the Starfleet Academy sequence at the beginning of the movie). Unforunately the producers forgot this little tidbit when they made ST3, which is why Kirstie Allie is sometimes emotional while Robin Curtis was completely unemotional the whole time.

Opposite-- canonically they never acknowledged she is part Romulan, it's only in the book, but it was in the film script in a scene they cut and explains a lot of her suppressed volatility

​@@r.l.royalljr.3905 OR Saavik is going full-tilt non-emotional to honor Spock. ;-)

Omg !! 😂

Very interesting!

And First Contact was the best of the NG films. It all comes full circle

👍👍👍😊

The Undiscovered Country a close second

@@GarethColquhoun Agreed

Yes. Was in cinema back in the day. Feels like 100 years.

I do.

My favorite DVD commentaries are for The Goonies, Ghostbusters, Airplane! and The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!

I still buy Dvds of films and shows that I've enjoyed in the vain hope the industry will keep going and features like commentaries, behind the scenes, artwork still is available to fans.

Chills....

Please watch Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi (both the original releases) so we can all join again for Mauler and Drinker covering those movies next. Many thanks for your efforts.

@@TheRadioAteMyTV yeah, even over purchasing lotto tix.

@@TheRadioAteMyTV I’ll give it my best effort 🤞😁

I haven’t watched it yet for the record. Sorry folks. I’ll get right on that, I internet-promise you. 😎

Neither was I born,.. but these films and the original stand up to anything else.

Aye, it's always nice to see that what we loved in the past is still good enough to be appreciated by a new audience... confirming Timelessness win! :) *** I was barely born and am a fairly die-hard Star Wars geek, but i've seen pretty much all of Star Trek up until i stopped watching things that came out after Enterprise ended. I've been called a Trekkie and i guess i can't really argue with that, although ST has definitely been "all over the place", so-to-speak, compared to a lot of other franchises... meaning the variety of writers, directors, actors, and ofc, episodic nature alone has made big differences between each installment. It's also sort of "the nature of the beast" in that ST likes to be a platform for socio-political commentary and whatnot, but i'll stop this ramble now an get on with watching ST3 & 4 now :D

I was born in 82 and the original crew is what star trek started as for me too, even if I wasn’t around for the original series of course. Was a fan of the 80s movies before I got into TNG. I guess Drinker is in his early 30s? So a bit younger, but still.

@@A_Noid Yep. I've re-watched TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY a bunch of times at this point... TOS is classic but from a tv show point of view; kind of bad. TNG is a bit better, it ran for longer, has a few more ep. that are good, whereas TOS really only has a few ep that are what i would call overall "good eps". Don't get me wrong, i still like them all, but... objectively, speaking as a critic (which i am not usually, since i personally like it just b/c it's ST and isn't pushing THE MESSAGE or bad writing like the recent crap), some eps are better than others from a sort of neutral critic or first-time-watcher perspective. Or even when you compare it to other shows like B5, X-Files or whatever. It's a complex issue that i could write a ton more about but i guess you probably know what i'm talking about... the franchise definitely evolves over time, TNG was a new evolution and things like the first 1-2 seasons of TNG and VOY were kind of weaker than the others... maybe TOS would have gotten way better had it ran for longer... as an example, who knows.

wow! respect,

I met Shatner at a similar thing down here in 2011. He was hilarious. Hope you had a great time mate !

Same. Prefer this to Open Bar. Would definitely tune in for more of these.

They make it feel authentic. The scale is wonderful.

Yeah, Drinker’s comment that it was good that ST2 cut back on the ship porn was the only real disagreement I had with this commentary. That tour around the Enterprise in TMP is a joy and a wonder, made perfect by Jerry Goldsmith’s magnificent score. Perfection.

@@MrWhipple42 I think you need to revisit TMP; TMP has a lot more focus on the visuals

Yeah that first scene where you get to see the Enterprise for the first time, it was perfect at the time.

It was a great time to be alive, wasn't it ! I was 11 or 12 when I saw this film, in 1982. It was wonderful, and I have loved it ever since.

@@RRTNZ 🤟

Same. My dad took me to see TMP, WOK, and SFS in the theater. Best childhood memories ever. 🙂🙂

I remember seeing it in 1982. So great!

Except Picard is sh*t

Got to see it at a drive in first then a regular walk in a week or so later. Parents were split and both Trek fans which made a lot of those experiences double up. First time I found out that drive ins would replay the first movie a lot of times after the regular showings were done.

I was just a kid and waited in line for 2 hours to see it in the theatre. Thankfully the people exiting went around the block the other way so we didn't hear spoilers in the lineup lol...

1982 might be the greatest year in Western cinema. And this, and ET were my favourite films of 82. I love this movie, saw it while visiting family back in Wales and have seen it dozens of times since.

She's half goddess

Also that Kirsty Allen's tears were real. The whole scene had the cast and crew crying while they filmed it and Kirsty could barely keep from blubbing. Rowen J Coleman's video on ST: WoK is excellent on the making of the film and the decisions taken.

You can hear Sulu’s missing dialog in this short video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A2MCxyswqRY.html

Very cool that your local cinema showed it. I’d love it if mine would. I saw this in the cinema when first released, and I was 27.

Perhaps that came about when he was missing from the animated series? I forget the reason why. The writers of TOS also wrote for the animated version and they always held that the two series were canon.

@@skylx0812 Oh, yes. I remember a new character took the navigation spot in the animated series. I think he was called Arax or something similar and had 3 arms. If I remember correctly, he may have been training for security during the animated series, but I could be wrong about that.

Chekov is a prodigy hence him.being so young he was basicly tos Wesley crusher

Yes ! Totally agree. Glad that so many others loved this and are encouraging Drinker to do more - really hope he does.

Then you must love Krull's soundtrack also. He used the music once more in a third movie but I can't remember which one it was. Horner was a great composer but he stole from himself more than Zimmeran, and that's a crazy large amount.

@@TheRadioAteMyTV More like a self-plagiarist. You can hear the Battle Beyond the Stars OST and it's really telling that most of the motifs of the tracks are transferred to WOK.

@@tyvamakes5226 He rips himself off in Aliens too. You can hear the "Reliant Theme" in the alien attack scene.

I agree and I think 5-7 could have been another brilliant trilogy if they'd been handled better...

Can't see it being beaten any time soon, unfortunately.

But not when they say they're the only ship in the QUADRANT, of which their galaxy has only four!

As Drinker mentioned, 6 is awesome, 4 is solid (and a fun departure) and 3 is pretty good. 5 is atrocious. Happy original trek journey!

"From hell's heart I Stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee" The Moby Dick parallels are great; Khan and his white whale

@@timewarpdrive77 true. Soo true

Love it 😎

One of my favorite scores of all time. Perfectly sets the "seafaring" mood and ratchets up the tension for the battle in the Mutara Nebula. {chef’s kiss}

James Horner's best in my mind

This is the movie where the new theme song was established, James Horner

Cheers? Is that a Kirstie Alley joke? 😆

​@@docsavage8640 and she said she didn't want to be typecast.

I saw this back in 1982, and just turned the same age as Kirk was on his birthday in Wrath of Khan. I may have aged but this film is just as great as it was when it first came out.

The final frontier deserved better; I wish it could have been integrated better into the trilogy and Shatner could have been reined in a bit more

This! Star Trek 2, 3 and 4 are practically a series, so you guys gotta continue it! :D

Totally agree, would love more of these.