Anakin not only force pushed her into a wall hard enough to make it shatter a little and that looks like a pretty hard wall and then force chokes her while she's trying to recover. Anakin does not give two shits about being a jedi sometimes.
MegaDrainProductions He wasn't trying to kill Ventress, just take the fight out of her. If he wanted to kill her, he could have done so the minute he got her against the wall. Hell yeah he was angry, but he at least had enough control to pull back and ask questions.
+Hannibal Rasberry lol nah even before all of this. obi told anakin about killing, and anakin sill killed bad guys lol even before they had a jury or judge
I love how the environments and color of the episodes changes the closer we get to Episode III. It becomes darker, less colorful, and we see Anakin become more reactive, volatile, and temperamental. Never underestimate the use of color to help set a mood.
@@bavtie1 just look at the setting when Ashoka was escaping the prison, the search lights, the dark night, the red banners, the whole place screamed Galactic Empire
Yup! Interesting how in this scene Anakin’s bathed in red light while Ventress is in white. She’s truly unaligned, while Anakin’s already 80% of the way to being a Sith.
This scene captured the irony of how fate turned out. Ventress started out on the dark path wanting to become sith, but eventually came back to the light... or at least became neutral. Anakin started out in the light and grew darker, and actually became a sith.
When you really think about it, you realize that Anakin, Dooku and Ventress were all Jedi before to turn to the Dark Side, then both Anakin and Dooku became a Sith while Ventress became an assassin. But then you have both Anakin and Ventress that finished to be at their very end more in between. Their evolution proves that these three evolved compare to the other Jedi
No ventress did not start out on a light path, she actually started out as a slave to a pirate which is considered dark then she became a Jedi which became on the light path, but her master died and she started going back to a dark path because she started killing again and dooku had her become a apprentice to become a sith. Now she left the dark path and became neutral. There are books on her that she fell in love with a Jedi and the council would pardon her crimes if she does some missions for them, but I don’t know if it was told she was doing it for the council or for her lover if for her lover then well she became neutral if for Jedi council and her lover well she became good. She died though, I think she died neutrally. She technically started from a dark path and ended up becoming neutral
I like how Anakin is wearing his rope from Revenge of the Sith when he turned to the dark side, him wearing it in this scene pretty much shows he's done messing around,time to get serious to the point of killing someone/torturing them for answers.
I think you're a little confused, the robe doesn't symbolize the dark side or Anakin's fall to it. The robe is a Jedi garment worn by most Jedi - he wore it in AOTC.
I'm sure it is a reference to ROTS. However my point is that a robe isn't necessarily indicative of Anakin's fall to the dark side. He's been wearing it throughout the Clone War & before.
Sometimes I wonder, Are jedi any different than the sith. I mean obviously they are, but some of the ways Jedi do things, just seems a bit inhumane or insensitive at times.
Primal Uktena Both sides aren't free of their faults. Both Orders have their own cultures and philosophies that benefit them, but you need to remember that they are both kind of extremists in their own right. Jedi are often seen as the servants of the Light Side of the Force and they believe that the Force should be used in the service of other people and goodness. However, that view often blinds them to other truths. They won't always do what needs to be done because of their pacifist and tolerant ways. That and they also believe that many things that make people feeling beings, like love, are gateways to the Dark Side. This, of course, isn't true.
1:02 - 1:03 You gotta love that warping sound whenever someone gets Force-choked in The Clone Wars. The minute you hear it, you know someone is about to get choked!
This further shows anakin's distrust in the jedi council. We can start to see a picture of why he doesn't trust the jedi council and what led to his decision to join the dark side in episode 3.
+Shaky Shadow makes sense, i get angry with the council when i know how the council stood still watching someone they obviously felt that was innocent (felt in the natural way, not the force i mean) getting unfairly convicted with no right to defense, and they just stood by doing nothing. And when she proves her innocence, and the jedi asks her back, i would be like: OH! NOW U WANT ME BACK, DIDN'T U BELIEVE MY INNOCENCE??!! U KNOW ME, U KNOW I WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT!! BUT U STOOD BY WATCHING ME GETTING CONVICTED!!!.....NO! I'M NOT COMING BACK, SPECIALLY NOW THAT U ARE ASKING THAT EVEN THOUGH U DIDN'T GIVE A THING ABOUT ME WHEN I WAS ARRESTED!! I WOULD BE VERY PISSED OFF IF I WAS IN AHSOKA'S SITUATION! I would feel betrayed by the council, while she was just sad, i would be furious (don't worry, not like anakin, i wouldn't kill kids) I watched this episode thinking, "man, Obi wan, Yoda, Plo, who was the old friend that convinced ahsoka to join the jedi order, NONE OF THEM DID ANYTHING!! Like they didn't care about her! how could they?"
Pretty much all the female characters here are some of the best in all Star Wars. Compare that to the sequel movies. Not a single compelling character. Yikes!
A thing that people seem to not remark is that here an ex sith apprentice is the one that helped him save his padawan , not the jedi order , not Obi wan but her .
@@irrelevanttroll3312 are you kidding me?! Tarkin outright said that the charges for her crimes, if indicted, could carry a sentence of life imprisonment...or even death. Did you not *see* the trial scene?!
@@irrelevanttroll3312 She would definitely have been executed. Tarkin wanted her dead because he felt humiliated by her during the citadel arc and his galaxy-sized ego was as fragile as a matchstick. And Palpatine wanted her dead to help turn Anakin. Ironically Palpatine would regret it or at least having Tarkin prosecute it because Anakin/Vader never got over it (in a legends comic, Vader even got Tarkin’s son killed as revenge for it), and the rift between them made a lot of difficulties for Palpatine.
I don't think she says "such promises" because she believes he can't do it. But because it isn't the Jedi way and I guess that in a way she enjoys seeing him be darker
I don't think so, it was just the lighting. Your eyes don't go yellow just from getting angry, you actually need to so some really bad stuff and go deep into the dark side to get them.
@@viniciuscardoso8056 Anakin isn't really a villain at this point though. He's definitely not a model jedi but at this point in time, him serving the dark side is something absolutely unthinkable to him. Heck, I still think that Anakin's fall in RoTS needed more screen time. He basically went from "What have I done?!" to "Yes, the jedi order are clearly evil and must be eradicated". Although that might just be him coping and justifying his actions, knowing there's no turning back.
@@burakserhattopuz8110 The fact that the rule is an absolute itself is ironic but it's completely missing the point. The point is "DEALS" meaning its either this or that no compromises when making deals with other beings. Think back to what Anakin said to Obi Wan before their epic duel. "You're either with me or your my enemy." Anakin is giving Obi Wan two choices that Obi Wan does not want to make and leaves no room for negotiation. They are basically ultimatums, in which a Jedi would never DEAL in because a Jedi strives to achieve the middle ground when dealing with their own demands and the demands of others. That is until a Jedi is dealt an absolute like in the example I mentioned above with Anakin and Obi Wan. Then they will do what they must since they are given no other choice. Jedi can have rules that are absolutes. I mean the whole jedi code (and sith code) is full of absolutes. It's just not the Jedi way to deal in them because it goes against the nature of a Jedi which is compassion, order, and peace.
@@CyberRelic280 so what you're saying is you like the feeling of cold but soft lasagna noodles sliding out of your poop hole into the mouth of the elderly? Is that what you're saying?
1:44 You really start to see how broken Ventress was after Dooku’s betrayal.Although she had moved on, the stuff he did and things and people she lost from it still haunt her.She’s very similar to ahsoka this way, making Anakin start to question the Jedi Council’s treatment of Ahsoka even more.
It's probably a combination of (1) being nice so Anakin won't cut her head off and (2) realizing that she and Anakin's padawan are somewhat kindred spirits.
If I had to guess, she starts out in fear due to the implications of being involved with Ahsoka at this point. Had it been any other Jedi, she probably would have been afraid that she could be implicated as a co-conspirator in the bombing... but seeing as it was Anakin and she could likely sense his anger, she is terrified that he believes she had framed Ahsoka. She found out on Kamino that she can't count on him showing mercy like she could abuse with any other Jedi... and she can't start disrobing in front of him as a distraction like she can vs Obi Wan... I SEE YOU CHECKING HER OUT KENOBI!!! Once he decisively wins the fight and demonstrates that he is more interested in finding out the actual truth than any revenge he perceives he can find in killing Ventress, she starts opening up.
I just realized that this is literally Ventress' last on-screen appearance. Her final arc got scrapped and put into the Dark Desciple novel. Man, I wish they could finish that arc and give her a proper send-off.
@@black-meliodas7773 Yeah, but Disney wil not do that. I haven't read the book but I know what happens in it and I personally don't like that she needs to fight Dooku again and die through his hand :/. In my opinion she has come over Dooku. Back to the mini series. I don't understand Disney. They could have made so much money with 2 more seasons finishing all story lines but somehow in that case money wasn't important to them... The only logical explanation to me would be that the contract with Cartoon Network hasn't ended yet but they've given enough money for them so they could at least get one season to get new clients for Disney+.
The problem is she was too much of a fan favourite..they wouldnt kill her off if TCW completed her arc..the books still have the courage to kill off fan favourite characters, unlike Dave Filoni
Definitely one of his darker clone wars moments, he was being very violent. The brief glint of yellow in his eyes + specifically choosing to have him wear his robe like he did as Vader in the ROTS are great visual details that reinforce that we're seeing his dark side.
@@jpf7942 I'm not sure if "turn her life around" is the right phrase here. More like she just wanted to make due and stay away from both the light and the dark side.
Love how aggressive anakin says "tell me what happen" shows how serious he is following up the choke. Showing he won't hesitate to kill her where she stood
That said, I think he figured out she wasn't the culprit at that point. She clearly didn't have her lightsabers on her, or she wouldn't have tried to use a couple of pipes against a kriffing LIGHTSABER, and it's not like she had the need to ditch them, so something had to have happened, hence why he didn't yell something more like "CONFESS!" and just drag her sorry ass to the nearest jail
+blastiosemaster Anakin wasn't made a Jedi master because of his mentality. He may have been the 3rd most powerful Jedi in the Order, but he hadn't developed control over his emotions.
The emotions the animation gives off is amazing. The voice and facial expressions really bring life to the storylines. Anakin looks like hes ready to storm the court room and rescue Ahsoka if he couldnt find answers.
I always appreciated how both Anakin and Ahsoka trusted Ventress in this arc. Neither of them could truly rely on the republic at this point, and it holds true that the people you dislike will usually tell the truth. Yeah, Anakin was about to snap her neck in half here, but I always felt like they had somewhat of a “friendly” rivalry between them. Letting her go shows that he respects her and her position at least a little bit
Well, Anakin at the very least did not hold a grudge on Ventress. He probably realized that since she's no longer a threat to the jedi order and the republic and is just trying to make due.
And than she falls in love with Quinlan Vos, gets captured by Dooku, forced to reveal she killed Vos’s master, gets beaten up even worse by him, gets arrested by the Jedi, forced to bring Vos in, assaulted and brought before Dooku and Sidious himself, tortured with Vos and finally killed in an effort to save her lover. Someone give Ventress a hug and a kiss already!!!!
Anyone else realize that all the movements and even the stance he takes at 0:51 are all the same as Vader's movements and attacks? Great Detail especially since he never fights like this
@@burakserhattopuz8110 sure when he's thinking straight trying to kill, but here? guess who's pissed off, trying to get information as well as give someone a beat down
This is one of the scenes that shows just how much Anakin cares about Ahsoka. Ventress was mostly right, but Anakin never gave up on or abandoned Ahsoka, that was the order's fault. If the order and the council treated all of the jedi better, Anakin would've stayed with the light. Ahsoka's expulsion led to their downfall in multiple ways. She contains the spirit of the light, and they pushed her away. That also meant Anakin didn't have the light literally by his side anymore
This! Don't know if it was intentional but it's really symbolic. Ahsoka was brought back to life thanks to the daughter's (embodiment of the light side) remaining life and since then, Morai watches over her (Who was portrayed on the daughters side in that painting in rebels). So in a way, Ahsoka was the new embodiment of the light and with the Jedi council expelling her from the order, they rejected the light they held so dear and pushed Anakin further to the darkside.
@@xemi2087 in a way, this Clone Wars episode (which plays out a lot like an episode of any really gritty Batman cartoon or TV series) really emphasizes what Revenge of the Sith already told us: that if you look at both the Jedi and the Sith from an objective, non-biased viewpoint, they're not really different at all, they just *seem* different because they have different points of view on the subject both know the most about: The Force. The differences that *are* there are all just aesthetic, surface-level differences. And that the Jedi are ultimately responsible for the creation of Darth Vader. Sidious may have pushed him *down* the path to becoming a Sith Lord in the end, but the Jedi were (unknowingly) doing most of the work *for* Sidious.
Always impressed with Anakin's strength. His right arm is a highly durable metal with great strength and he's doing a ton of impressive physical feats with his left.
this. In the fight against bariss, he uses his mechanical forearm to literally beat her with a lightsaber. Whats amazing is once she jumps on him making him lose the other saber, the mechanical hand manages to hold onto it which he uses to overpower her.
Ventress: My master, abandon me. And that's exactly what you did to her. You and you'r precios jedi order. I think those words afect Anakin more than we can see.
@@haydenfowle7576 I just mean an ex sith being outwardly afraid of a teetering jedi is an interesting concept. Especially since each of their arcs eventually go in completely opposite directions.
I love scenes where a Villain (or previously villainous character) underestimates what the (supposed) hero is willing to do to get what they want. Anakin does not engage her like he has done before, none of that arrogance or bravado, he just backs her in to a corner and demands that which he needs. Armed or not, Ventriss did not stand a chance. And you can almost, just almost, see the fear in her eyes. She may make a snarky comment afterwards, remarking on how he says he'll kill her, but I think, deep down, she knows he will.
@@marvelfangirl3328 Ahsoka would get stomped by CW Anakin, ROTS Anakin, pre-suited Vader, the cybernetic Vader...literally every version of Anakin/Vader that isn't the 9 year old
Prequel Haters that are fanboys of the OT, this is the true young Darth Vader. So stop complaining that Vader was a whiny brat and except nothing in this era as canon when you don't even see the canon Matt Latner version of him. He played the part extraordinarily well.
joe wilson Yep. At least there's lots of haters not like that, such as critics. Nostalgia Critic made a video of the things he likes about the prequels despite his negative opinions. There's those people, and people blind to anything and call anyone a fan of anything not OT or TFA an 8-year old.
ryhansen1 prequel hating is exaptable, because they simply aren't good movies and they didn't handle the characters well. But indeed, the clone wars did everything the should have done and much more. And yes, Matt Lanter's Anakin is exactly what I imagine a young Darth Vader to be, he's great! But that really only makes me hate Hayden's portrail of the character even more when I see RotS..
Bastiaan Wiltjer It's not the fact of hating prequels, it's being a blind fan/hater that I'm talking about. The prequels overall were indeed mediocre at best, but it brings out the cancer in the fanbase.
ryhansen1 now THAT is absolutely true... Star Wars and DC fanboys are some of the worst you'll ever come accross (I do seperate fans and fanboys, just so you know)
"My master abandoned me, and that's exactly what you did to her. You and you precious Jedi Order." She was talking about Dooku while referencing Ky Narec.
Man, Asajj is actually really cool for spilling this much of her beans. Like, she easily could've just kept her mouth shut about contacting the temple, but she volunteered that info.
This is such a great full circle moment for Anakin that is sorely missed in the movies. His first moment of going to the dark side was when he slaughtered that village after they kill his mom. Now you have this where he is full on hunting and torturing someone to avenge a surrogate sister. It also ties in nicely with the end of Rebels season 2 where Anakin as Vader blames Ahsoka for leaving him when it was really him who abandoned her by sticking with the Jedi order over her. Because of what happened to his mother, he never got over trying to protect and control people he cared deeply about and that was his undoing.
No one: Literally no one: Not even J.J. Abrams, Rian Johnson, or Kathleen Kennedy: 72nd Emmy Awards: Nominate Star Wars Resistance for "Outstanding Children's Program" but leave out Star Wars: The Clone Wars entirely.
+Owen Bloose Its canon :/ part of "the clone wars legacy" project to publish unfinished clone wars in different forms of media other than through the show itself.
You know looking back being betrayed was the best thing to happen to her. Ventress went from being a mostly two dimensional character just around to be the big bad sith for a few episodes at a time, to helping those she would otherwise be attempting to kill because she sees a kindred spirit in Ahsoka.
After this scene I think that Ventress never came with an agreement with Ahsoka because she promised to speak to the council on her behalf it was because she felt sorry for her
thats my whole point lol hence me sicking my tongue out :P Trust me I know everything about anakin transition. these were some of his early stages dipping into the darkside
Shawn Ford Force Choke isn't exclusively a Dark Side ability. Many Jedi have used it before, mostly on artificial opponent such as crushing Battle Droid. Even Mace Windu has used it on General Grievous. Anakin, however, was not as reserved with the power with his abrasive and straight-forward nature. He's always resorted to brute strength in fighting. His fifth form lightsaber techniques, Shien (for blaster fire) and Djem So (for lightsaber duels and his primary form) are primarily offensive and brutal. And Anakin was also particularly talented in using Force Choke, in battle and interrogation. His passion and short-temper are the main reasons for use constant use in choking enemies.
Shawn Ford In short, many Jedi who dabble on the edge of Dark Side without being seduced by it, use more offensive abilities like Force Choke more fluently. Anakin and Mace Windu are prime examples of these kinds of Jedi.
Ngl I find it pretty funny how when Obi-Wan was up shit's creek Ventress actively intervened and helped him rather than letting Maul torture him but when she interacted with Anakin and Ahsoka it was way more hostile. Says a lot about what Ventress thought of Obi-Wan
If you do a head count of all the People who did what they could for Ahsoka, you would only get 3: Anakin for exposing Barriss and bringing her to confess. Padmé for defending Ahsoka as her representative during her trial. Asajj Ventress: For providing Anakin the crucial piece that was needed to find Barriss.
After all these years, it is so surreal to watch Anakin and Ventress go from a fucking deathmatch on Yavin to communicating about Ahsoka’s innocence? What a time to be alive.
Anakin's biggest flaw is his feelings for his loved ones. If his mother, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Padme and later Luke were in peril, there's no limit to what he'd do to save them. There was no Anakin in this scene, just pure Vader.
His flaw is his inability to let go of his loved ones. Yoda told him to train himself to let go and he wasn't able to do that which is why palpatine was able to convert him. In contrast, Ezra was able to let go of his parents and his master (despite having strong connections with them) and when Palpatine tried to tempt him he failed both times
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