Test Driving A Rolex Submariner 16613 & A Seiko Marine Master 300m SBDX017 Automatic Dive Watch 

How lucky is your friend to be given a Rolex Submariner two tone from his wife. Interesting seeing your current version next to an older version.

They don't call the Marine Master the Japanese Rolex for nothing. Absolute quality watch! Star of the show today.

"I like watches" understatement of the century

"Testing, testing, errr. I like watches." Choked on my All-Bran. :)

The MM300 is one of those watches that makes you go "How was my Explorer three times more expensive?!"... The brushed hands with polished edges, hand applied lume, and the hand assembled (allegedly) 8L35... AMAZING watch. I don't love the bracelet so I put mine on a black Isofrane for that modern-retro look. If you have a chance to try it on rubber I think it makes the watch truly shine, and nearly impossible to beat in its price category. Its a little top heavy on NATO but I still do it ;). Great Video!

There is a saying: you buy a Sub to impress other people. You buy a MarineMaster to impress yourself.

The MM300 is the nuts, honestly.

I could hear them talking about watches all day long👌

Fantastic episode gentlemen! As always, it's an absolute pleasure having Giancarlo on the show! Beautiful two tone Sub and what a watch that seiko is, real stunner! Best, Matt H.

Loving your new collaborations with Jon! The chemistry that you lads have is hard to beat! Keep at it TGV! Cheers, Joshua

And the winner is... (drum roll) Seiko SKX!!! ;D

you two are the perfect duo to talk about watches! do this more often please. And the mm300 seems like a really interesting watch haha

Loved learning more about these stunning Divers! Thank you both for sharing your love of timepieces. The energy and enthusiasm you both exude makes me want to go get a diver...NOW! So. Many. Choices.

I have owned a 16613 2 tone Sub for almost 20 years. I was a grail for me back then and I still cherish is as much now. I know it's kind of and overused phrase, but it looks great with jeans or a suit. It's the watch you take on vacation; perfect for the pool or formal dinner. And I never tire of looking at that blue dial. Great job, Gents. Love the chemistry and the way you guys play off each other. Keep up the great work.

What a great video and analysis of these beautiful timepieces! For someone who is not savvy on watches, yet enjoys adding to my husband's growing watch collection, very helpful to watch. I'm following! Thank you!

that federico talk watches impression was spot on! :D

Giancarlo makes the channel even better! Keep it up guys!

I always love your videos, TGV! They always give me comfort and happiness. Keep the awesome work!

Epic timing - just as seiko Saturday is upon us

I really admire your attitude in your videos very comforting and easy to relate to , your points come across very clearly as well top work !

would love to see a proper video comparing mm300 to the sub. please make that video TGV!!!

The ceramic version of that sub is absolutely my grail of grails. I tried one on recently and it is in my opinion, the most gorgeous watch I've ever seen.

The Seiko works so well on him. I can totally see him falling for it lol. Looks very down to business and it doesn't get much more "tool watch" than that. And I'm always saying that more full-body images should be present on r/Watches and other watch forums. So many people ask "is my watch too big" and post an image of just their wrist. But the entire build of the person is how it should be determined. As a fellow Italian (well not all Italian, but I seem to have gotten all the Italian genes lol!) with a similar build, seeing the Seiko on GCR's wrist made me want it too! As far as two-tone Subs, love them! Blue and gold just screams navigation/ocean to me. And it was stunning to see it next to the Seiko as well. The Seiko looks like (and IS) a tool for real divers. And then you have a two-tone Sub that looks very oceanic, but isn't really practical at all. It says something that you two even laughed at it when thinking about it being used as a real diving watch - because in all seriousness, it'd absolutely be a bit ridiculous. Had me cracking up about diving into champagne lol. So while I like them, they're almost all aesthetic. They remind me of water and boats, but don't actually belong in the ocean. I could see someone on a yacht wearing one, relaxing on the deck. Then taking it off, putting the Seiko on, and jumping into the water. If you're into boating, sea-life, sailing, etc. then the two-tone Sub is the way to go. But if you're going to want something tough, rugged, and for actual diving, get the Seiko or a normal Sub. Also, I think you said it perfectly with, "It's tastefully done flashy-ness." That's honestly the best way anyone could describe the two-tone Sub. Completely not in-your-face, but also definitely not subtle either. Just clean, classy, and luxurious. It knows what it is and isn't afraid to let people know about it.

You know its gonna be good when the other explorer brother is present.

Great job TGV! Your videos are always amazing quality!

Never really post comments for youtube but just want to say how much I appreciate your videos. Been looking for a hobby and your videos inspired me to get into watches. Your videos are super informative and is pure class! Keep up the good work!

This Laurel and Hardy watch duo made my day ! Very impressed by the Marine Master. Another winning Seiko.

Hey GUYS!

Beautiful 2 tone Rolex, love ❤️ it! The Seiko is also an eye catcher!

I just bought the Seiko Marine Master watch only because Gian Carlo is wearing it in the video! Gain Carlo is my idol!

"Nice Try T" hahaha almost fell of my chair by laughing. Really nice video! :)

Awesome vid! 👍 😎 love the Mm300!

nice video TGV as always ;)

Good chemistry between you lads.....appreciate the content, cheers

Seiko just keeps surprising people for what they do, japanese craftmanship has always been amazing

So much fun! I am really interested in that Seiko...I am not really a Seiko guy, but that thing is exceptional

As always a good show, Tristano! And my thought on the two-tone Rolex is: to each his own. Keep up the good work, sir!

Wow! TGV! This is an innovative Video!!!! I must confess I never would have thought of doing a watch video in a Police Interrogation Cell!

Great video. Thank you!

When you guys do the full review of the MM300, please look into one issue that I've been trying to find clarity on: some watch makers have urged caution over what they've found to be a weak or just poorly executed stem and crown. This is very surprising, since a robust and reliable crown/stem configuration are really key to a true diver tool watch. Thanks guys! Excellent content, as always!!!!

it's such a delight to see you both or other of your friends doing videos with you tgv. brilliant and hilarious! such madness but beautiful to see. hope next vid it'll be your wife talkin bout watches and cuisines. just a suggestion anyways. more power and success to you sir😉✌

Its mbeen a while since I've seen that intro. A throwback video featuring the first intro and your dear friend Sir Ernest would be a nice video idea TGV. Keep up the great work T Regards

OMG this is so great you guys freak out over watches just like I freak out also

when it said "test driving" a diver watch, I was expecting TGV to do a session in the middle of the Pacific. LOL still a good review, though

Some heavy hitters on the channel well done.Cheers.

I have the 14060M two liner and I was able to install a Ginault Ocean rover bracelet which has the glidelock function and I can honestly say its the best combo between old and new. I absolutely love it and would highly recommend it for anyone who likes the size proportions of the pre ceramic subs but love the gridlock feature of the new submariners. Also the Ginault bracelet even fits my GMT ref 16710. The bracelet alone is worth purchasing a Ginault watch IMHO.

when i saw the MM300 in real live, it blew me away!

The MM300 adjustable clasp came before the rolexs glidelock. The MM's bezel is lacquer.

Actually the two tune Submariner was my favourite option on subs before I got into watches. Now I'm not a fan at all, not even in general of two tone watches. As for being a logical step, I think it is. In the times we live in watches are no longer a necessity for majority of people, they are a luxury, especially with pieces in that price range. So why not make it in precious metals? Really enjoying these episode with Giancarlo. Great job guys!

I remember eating at a posh cafe in Bucharest once and the owner came to us and was very helpful and nice. When he sat at the table next to us I remember seeing his two tone blue ceramic updated Rolex submariner. Maaaan it was gorgeous....absolutely stunning to look at. The new Tudor two tone has a bit of that look for a lot less money

great conversation. thank you 🙏

Like two boys in a candy store, love the Seiko. So clean. Curious about the rest of the days ventures. Don't wait too long. Nice job gents.

I happened to owned the exact 2 tones sub you reviewed. Got it way before the ceramic subs are out. As I already owned quite a few tooly dive watches, I wanted to try the 2 tones for a more dressier, abit of flash diver sport watch. Comparing it to the new sub, I like the size and the blue dial. The new 2 tones blue is darker, size wear bigger due to beefer lugs. For that, I am happy to give up the newer movement, ceramic bezel, glide lock features. Great video!

Hey TGV, Great great content! That Marine Master is soooooo beautiful! Cheers!

Thanks for having John Carlo. I think the two tone Submariner is just a dressier option. I don't find it gaudy. Can't wait for the side by side comparisons.

Thanks TGV, another great show! I have mixed feelings about the gold, on the one hand it is visually and I'm sure handling it is nice change for a tool watch and some would argue that it is just showing off. However, lets not forget that gold that has been chilling at the bottom of the ocean since the Spanish inquisition is still doing just fine! So really for a dive watch is there a better material?! Thanks again. Avid watch lover and truly enjoy your down to earth discourse. Jacob

Very cool! It's not a ceramic bezel. But it is shiny!! Great video guys!!

I really like your channel, thank you for your work. Love from Moscow :)

Thanks a lot for the amazing videos TGV! Run into a two tone sub in black recently on street, it gives you a splash of gold in a very subtle way. In some light condition, it seems just like a SS sub. It might be a good choice for someone who want some gold but don't want the shout out loud all gold models. Great video! Thanks guys!

I have a ceramic no date Sub, Black Bay Heritage Red ETA, a Grand Seiko Spring Drive Diver, and a MM300... I put the MM on a Miltat Angus Jubilee w ratcheting clasp. It holds up well against all of the others, and when you consider the price -- it blows them away!

I always had it in my head that I didn't like the two-tone sub, but seeing it on the wrist, it actually looks phenomenal!

Just picked up an early 2000s used no date submariner after watching your videos. Hard choice between that and the omega PO but I am happy with the sub.

The Federico impression in the beginning was hilarious. I miss those videos. Too bad he had to go off and move to Miami! But great video as usual. And that Marinemaster is so beautiful.

Great vid as always but some soft furnishings to dampen reverberation and tone down the Daz-white background would make it even better ;)

What a beautiful video! You should do more videos together, your synergy is absolutely mesmerizing.

I own the Ceramic two tone and absolutely love it...solid point re: the glide-lock clasp! Put off buying one for years thinking it would be gaudy, but on the wrist it is refined and beautiful!

Rico Suave..!!!!! hahahaha Keep up the good work guys!!

Love that show!

TGV was almost lost for words starring at the seiko

Love these episodes with you and Giancarlo! Lots of interesting discussion and nice to get a second opinion on things. Still miss Federico though. Any collaberations with Federico in the foreseable future? Sir Dog

After much thought I bought the Seiko MM300 partially base on this video. Thanks.

Excellent video my friend! Love the collabs! I have a suggestion I've been wanting to share for a while. What is a good/the best mid-range chrono? It really is a tough one isn't it? How about making a video on that? Best regards, fm

LOve the Seiko, even thinking of buying one from Seiyajapan. But I am a traditionalist when it comes to the Sub, the black is understated and elegant. Cheers

interesting thx fr sharing :)

Have you had any experience with mondaine watches. I've been interested in getting one of their automatics. I love the design of their watches.

Well the density of 904L stainless steel is 7,95 g/cm³ while the density of gold is 19,30 g/cm³ (both at room temperature). Which means gold is indeed much heavier than 904L stainless steel. A great Seiko Saturday to both of you and keep up the good work!

In love with your videos Mr TGV. Can there be a video about different kinds of bezels? About material, functionality etc?

TGV your episodes are the best thing to watch late at night while drinking some scotch ;) Cheers my friend, keep up the amazing work!

Congrats on the explorer! I am very partial to the classic pre 1989 explorers myself. Maybe one day...

I like your new Rolex. The Seiko is beautiful, I have a tuna, and it is well made. The marine master has to be amazing.

I sold my Tudor Black Bay with in house movement to buy a MM300. For me, there is no doubt that the Seiko is superior. When you hold it in your hands, you realize at that moment that you hold a piece of very high quality. I did not feel that way with the Tudor. To each his tastes but I find that the design of the case of the MM300 is a work of art. The Tudor case design is more a boring slap of steel.

Good Federico impersonation, John-Carlos!

Proud to be wearing my SKX seeing Seiko produce a great watch like this MM

The SBDX017 is one of the higher end Seikos out there. I own a 014 and 016 and they are amazing. The 8L35 is amazing and definitely one of the more desirable movements. In fact, moving into the MM range, people are biased towards the Spring Drive (SBDB) or the automatic (SBDX) series just because of their prominence in accuracy and it's ability to be nearly on par with higher market pieces such as ROlex. Personally I love the charm and uniqueness of it, and considering how few people have it, it stands out quite a bit. Although I have to say, the market demands 001 more so than 017, and I don't think it's "limited". This is mass produced, it's just "limited" in the sense that it's JDM and therefore not easily attainable by anyone outside of HK/Japan/Thailand and a few other E Asian countries.

EDIT: Zack Mattews is right saying that the bezel is painted steel (the bezel is not aluminium as previously mentioned) -Charles

I purchased that Seiko Marine Master 300 bracelet for my Seiko 6105 and with little modification it looks great. One of better bracelets in Seiko world. I have that two tone Bluesy and I like it better that my Rolex ceramic sub. So glad to see some high quality pieces in this episode and good conversation. BIG LIKE

This Seiko is incredible... It has been months that I'm turing around it like a fly above a jam pot... Well this video does not help either. It is turning me crazy now. I need one soon

Your an inspiration TGV :)

The two of you should make more videos because is topnotch.

I was wondering when the MM300 would pay a visit.. That watch is dying for a TGV Review!! Great Stuff!! BMJ ENGLAND

Great show TGV! I have been watching your channel since 2014 and it's still the best watch channel. The Submariner is the best watch in your collection, it's timeless. Don't sell it. Best regards, Darko

Thank you again TGV. With the Invicta, three vintage Hamilton manual winds (two with Swiss movements, one USA made 10K gold) I am up to 35 at least watches. I could have easily bought a nice Tudor or vintage Rolex (missed a nice 1957 at $1080) for the watch kick. Did I mention the 1960s hand winding 10K gold Bulova? Thanks as well for showing the Invicta on a Bond NATO. Out of my thirty NATO Bands I only have the green Bond in 16,18 and 22mm. Now you have me buying books as well. Why don't you try to pick up a nice vintage Hamilton in 10K or 14K gold to be jewel box mates for your beautiful Omega. My Hamilton score was a 1952 Neil, a 1965 Sea Mate II and another with an ETA movement Hamilton 671. Mad Men material!

hi tgv if some1 like myself was saving to one day own a submariner which model is the best investment or what would you recommend. thanks love the channel

just finally made the kill on the skx007 j and am looving it, i can see why you love them, ready to mod 👌

Before I bought the Deep Sea James Cameron, my daily wearer was a 2003 2 tone sub w/ blue dial. One of my all time favorite timepieces, but I would prefer my next 2 tone sub with glidelock and ceramic bezel.

what watch do you think can beat Hamilton khaki field H10? (in a similiar price of course) thank you

Just saying thanks for the good luck the exam yesterday went well now I can enjoy another video ahah

That MM300 is quite an interesting diver as when you are diving its easier to turn the bezel with gloves on. Similar to the Omega Seamaster 300 back in the late 60's. Also, I like the lume better on the Seiko than my Rolex. Rolex accuracy is superb being +2/-2 and that is in case testing. Wonderful video TGV, much appreciated.

I love the two tone I'm going to swap my pre ceramic black sub for one really classy

Tastefully done flashy. Good description. Breitling can learn from it. If flashy is your thing (both watches and watch lovers), embrace it with taste!